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Twisted Wonderland Chapter 6, Parts 1-16 Review

Sorry for the wait. This post will hold a brief summary of all events taking place within the chapter, followed by my own thoughts, theories, and opinions. All of which will be placed under the cut for spoilers.

⚠️ Spoiler warning! If you have not seen the translations then I recommend watching them before reading. You have been warned!⚠️

(Note: the bingo board will or will not be featured depending on the current events. Just because the theories might not be true, I kinda want to see how off I was. For this purpose, the board stays up.)

Chapter 6 summary

So, to start off we turn to our lovely MC who is currently in the process of having another nightmare vision. The vision shows us of the first part of the Hercules movie with Hades attending Hercules's christening (it's like a birthday/baptism but it can't truly be called a baptism in this case due to this being with pagen gods). Basically, it's Zeus trashing Hades as always, and the vision ends with Hades saying that he wishes for Zeus to drop dead before leaving the party.

MC wakes up to a concerned Ace and Deuce who ask why MC was passed out. After MC gives a brief explanation of what happened, they get worried about Grim and contact Crowley. The Headmaster disregards MC trying to tell him about Mickey and commands that they lock the doors and windows. He then tells Ace and Deuce to go back to their dorm and Crowley summons the Dorm leaders for an emergency meeting.

Ace and Deuce decide that they should try and find Grim before the dorm leaders. But as they search, they overhear Crowley saying that Ortho Shroud already caught Grim. What's more is that he seems afraid of someone coming to their school (along with the reputation with Ambrose, but that's about to become another problem entirely.)

Fast forward to a few days after the capture of Grim at the end of the festival.

Vil calls the VDC group together for a meeting at Ramshackle dorm. He takes responsibly for his actions and also tells us a few interesting things :

Their final performance was flawed due the Overblot fight before hand

He told a bit about Neige's backstory which is a little sad. (He lives with his dwarf companions and has for most of his life. In other words, he's an orphan [as far as I can tell])

Rook knew the whole time when questioned by Vil.

Basically, Vil asks how the group would have voted had they known about Neige's predicament. Kalim and Deuce say maybe, but Ace holds firm to his performance because according to him, it's a competition of the stage, and not sob stories. Vil agrees with Ace.

Anyway, Vil insists on paying for the month of training that the group underwent. At first everyone refuses, but he holds firm and they all agree, and Kalim starts the act of donating the money to get the Ramshackle dorm repaired. Almost everyone else follows suit accept for Ace and Deuce. Deuce wants the money to support his mom, and Ace wants to keep the money for himself (but he does offer to get us lunch. Thank Ace!👍)

They start talking about redecorating the dorm, but then Rook is called out about their performance and his opinion on it. Epel feels betrayed because Rook said their performance was perfect, when in reality it wasn't. Rook clarifies saying that they're performance was beautiful, but not perfect. (As far as I'm able to get, but I could've gotten that wrong.) They make up in the end, and everyone is happy 😊.

And this is where the fun begins...

Immediately following a loud crash is heard from outside. Everyone is in shock as Vil quickly realizes that the magical barrier around the school has been broken by intruders. Rook tells everyone to look outside and then to get down.

The window crashes as the intruders break in to the Ramshackle dorm. They appear to be robotic looking humans, who the gang now have to face. The mysterious intruders target Vil and Jamil, and after a fierce battle manage to overpower and capture the targets. The first years try to fight them as well, but get badly injured and pass out. Ace tried to contact Riddle, but couldn't before hitting the floor.

Meanwhile at the horse riding club, the intruders are spotted coming in their direction. When they arrive, Riddle asks if they have permission to visit, and after a moment of guilty silence he deems them rule breakers and hazardous. All dorm leaders have the power to lift the magical fighting ban in the face of an emergency. Riddle does this and with Sebek and Silver, they fight the intruders together. Riddle seems to have everything under control but then gets beaten up and taken away.

Silver then notices that the intruders only took Riddle and no one else. This makes the pair believe that the intruders are targeting the dorm leaders. Sebek instantly figures that Malleus is in danger and both rush to Diasomnia.

At the dorm, they find Malleus is okay and Lilia gets a call from a distressed Kalim for an emergency meeting.

Meanwhile in the botanical gardens, Ruggie is looking for Leona but then the intruders break through the ceiling. Glass rains down but Leona saves Ruggie. The intruders show themselves and target Leona. At first the two are ready for a fight, but then Leona surrenders after figuring out two things: 1) the people are wearing a special armor made to deflect magic (or absorb it, idk) and 2) he recognizes the logo on their armor: S.T.Y.X.

Leona recognizes that they are more powerful and surrenders his pen, agrees to go with them, and tells Ruggie to look after Savannaclaw.

At another area of the school, Azul and Idia are in an intense game of Chess with Idia coming out as the winner. Then when the barrier is breached, the game gets disrupted. Azul is freaking out about the barrier but Idia seems more mad about the game. Then he asks Ortho to examine the situation. Ortho quickly gives the required info and Idia concludes that the intruders are Carrier Guards (translations vary from translations, it might be called something entirely different depending where you look. Don't take my word for it.) They break into the classroom where the club is being held.

Azul is ready to attack but Idia tells him that the best option is surrender. Ortho backs up his brother and Azul agrees to comply. The Guards then tell Idia that he's wanted at the S.T.Y.X. HQ. Idia complains about the Guards violence and asks what his parents are up to but all information is denied. Knowing that he can't win, Idia agrees to go, Ortho following him and Idia gets ready.

All subjects have been captured at this point, and at the Headmaster's office, Crowley is also being taken away by the Carrier Guards. Most of the staff are bewildered, but Professor Trein understands the situation and takes charge of the school.

The remaining students meet at the Headmaster's office for an emergency meeting and Trein gives everyone the short explanation: the Carrier Guards are from a non governmental organization called S.T.Y.X. who are known to have studied blot, and Overblots for a long time. It then makes sense as to why certain people were targeted. The veteran students then find out from Kalim and Rook that Vil Overblotted.

Meanwhile with the victims, Riddle wakes up and is greeted to the rest of the squad. They then talk in the dark as they wait to arrive to their final unknown destination. They are able to piece together that Idia might have some kind of relationship with the company. Vil later confirms that S.T.Y.X. is run by the Shroud family who a branch of the Jupiter Conglomerate (the people who own the Olympus Tech Company). The Shrouds are an important family that's just as rich if not more so than the Al-Asims but they deal in shady business and research which is why they aren't as well known. Riddle, Azul and Jamil were the most surprised by this.

They arrive on the Isles of Lamentation at S.T.Y.X. and are greeted by Idia, who as it turns out is the co-director of his family business and is currently in charge while his parents are away.

This is the end of parts 1-16

List of personal thoughts and analysis points

Firstly, I just wanna say that this chapter so far has been better than anything I could have been able to predict. Hats of to Yana for making this chapter full of pleasant surprises.

So regarding personal thoughts, a lot of people already said so much on the chapter that makes sense. I have a few things to say that no one else has said so far, but not too much.

Capturing Grim and how MC got back

Honestly, out of all the things I thought would happen but never wrote down, this is probably the biggest one. I had a feeling that Ortho, and maybe Idia would be involved with the capture of Grim, but I never said anything because I was kinda leaning towards RSA getting to him first. But basically, when and how Grim was captured did not surprise me in the slightest because I had an idea that this was what they were going to do.

Now who put MC back at Ramshackle is the real mystery. If it was Malleus, then it would make sense, but maybe he'd be worriedly and stick around until we woke up? If it was anyone from RSA, we would already be exposed, so it can't be them either, (unless... Secret RSA allie?). Ace and Deuce found us in the dorm so it can't be any of them. Ortho probably couldn't carry someone as heavy so it can't be him, plus the fact Ortho is equipped with medical supplies and could have treated MC's injury before leaving, but seeing as we were still untreated at the dorm, it definitely can't be Ortho. Anyone else from NCR would have informed a member of the staff about an injured student, and carried us to the infirmary, but Ace and Deuce had to call the Headmaster because Grim was on the lose, so Crowley would have heard sooner that something was wrong. This rules out almost everyone we can name.

So in conclusion, it could be one of three people:

It could be a mysterious RSA student who isn't involved with anything Ambrose related. (Chenya is the one that comes to mind here, but even he's still on the fence [figuratively and literally])

It could have been Mickey. Maybe he somehow left the Mirror, after all, he's the only one who knew about Grim's disappearance besides MC. And if it was Mickey, I think we would be in big trouble.

Someone else who we have not heard of or even seen before hand. A new character who we may get to see during this chapter. Namely, I'm thinking on the the visiting Fourth years we've been hearing so much about. Maybe they were in a hurry, and couldn't stick around for to long so they dropped us off at the Ramshackle dorm.

Neige's Backstory

He is based off of Snow White, so honestly, I didn't really know what to expect. It makes sense, but that raises the question: who are his parents? Why did they leave him?

There are too many questions and not enough information to figure any of this out.

As for the voting with knowledge, I still would've voted for Vil regardless of Neige's past. I simply liked Vil's work more than Neige. I get Vil explaining what happened to give us the clue that everyone carries a story, but still (yes!!! Totally nailed the first prediction).

Do I like Neige more than I did before? Not really. I'm not trying to be mean, and I understand he has one of those always-looks-on-the-bright-side kind of personalities, but I need to know more about him in order to change my opinion on him in anyway. (Personally, if the theories I've been making about him being manipulated are true then that would make him so much more interesting, but that's just me¯\_(ツ)_/¯).

The Carrier Guards (aka Charons)

This was my favorite part of start. I mean, most people were probably thinking "FBI! OPEN UP!!!" but personally, the thought going through my head at the time was "ALRIGHT!!!! WHO CALLED THE S.W.A.T TEAM??!!"

However, reactions aside, there is some interesting things we see with the guards. At first, I thought they were just people in armor, however weird little messages and scenes from the chapter suggest that these things are anything but human.

The first thing I've noticed was that with our first encounter, normally human would have more character to them. They would probably just break the door down, and even if they still did the window crash, they would try not to hurt anyone more than necessary. I'm not saying this because it's obvious, but more along the lines that, besides receiving orders and giving them, we haven't heard them say anything else. They are either lazer focused on their mission, or they were programed to follow orders.

During the second attack is where things get interesting. Did anyone else notice the animals strange behavior besides the Horse riding club? Silver said that they could be acting off due to the weather, but I think it's something else. One thing I can think of is something unnatural, otherworldly in a sense. The Charons gave off a strange aura that scared the horses, even from afar. Leona and Ruggie even knew something was off about them, with Ruggie saying that the Guards gave off a foul smell.

So that much mean that these Carrier Guards are more than just robots. Either the Isle of Lamentation have something that the Guards brought with them, or it's the Guards themselves. Are they animated for infinite power? Maybe they contain some kind of ghost? Perhaps they have people, but they under some kind of mind control? Who knows?

Idia Shroud (You absolute mad lad! 💖💖😀)

So this chapter has given us a lot of new information about Idia and his family. So let's start unpacking it by say one thing that most people haven't got yet: IDIA DIDN'T SEND THE S.T.Y.X HERE EVERYONE!!! He didn't even know they were coming!

So the next thing that I thought was interesting was Idia's reaction to the whole situation. He took it calmly regardless of how little he knew about what was going on. And there's more to his calm reaction than meets the eye.

Note that everyone else kind of panicked a little, with Azul being the most active, but Idia barley reacted at all, the only shock he experienced was the the chess board was messed up. But that had me questioning: why was Idia so calm?

Considering all the possibilities for his background, I think I've got a pretty good idea as to why. Most of which reminds me of an actual historical event that took place during WWII. The event in question is known as the Blitz.

For anyone who doesn't know, the Blitz was a time period during World War Two where the Germans bombed the city of London. Since the Germans couldn't conquer Britain on the water, they hoped to bomb the capital city into surrender (if memory serves correct). One of the things I remember reading about was the people's reaction to the Blitz, maybe during the first few weeks, everyone was panicking, but eventually for the survivers whenever they heard the siren they remained calm, and went to a bomb shelter. I'm not saying that the weren't afraid, but after it happening a lot, they learned not to be surprised, stay calm, and to do the safest thing and quickly get to safety. They had to be ready to go at anytime and they couldn't go back for anything they may have forgotten.

Now, I'm not saying Idia was alive during a war, but what I am saying is that he has been in situations like this one before. Where at the S.T.Y.X headquarters, you always have to be ready for an emergency, and you have to learn to expect anything to happen. Instead of trying to question it, you have to stay calm and do the best thing you can do in your current situation. Play your part quickly and accurately and you'll be fine. It all goes back to adapting to the situation. Regardless of how dangerous, you have to be ready for anything.

Idia has obviously been trained for situations like this due to his position. The first thing he did after getting over the brief shock was to ask Ortho to examine the situation. After he had enough information to know what was going on, he made his choices based on that knowledge. He didn't hesitate, he didn't stutter. He told Azul to stand down because as far as he could see, it was the best and safest strategy to deploy at the time. Basically, Idia's calm reaction was due to being trained for emergency situations. He was taught to not panic in times like this and to make tough decisions quickly.

Now, before I go on, just wanted to say hats off to Azul for putting the first years out of harm's way first! He has come so far since chapter 3 and we are all proud!!!😊😊

We learn about Idia's family and the position that they hold. And after the chapter, something inside me clicked with Idia. After rewatching the Chapter 6 preview at the end of Chapter 5, it hit different, in a sad way.

When Idia said that he can't go anywhere, he meant that he literally couldn't go not because he didn't want to, but because he can't. He already has a lot of responsibilities for Lamentation, to S.T.Y.X., and currently as a dorm leader. He's been piled up with different titles and talents, but that all comes with a steep price. He isn't as free as everyone else, he has a lot of things he needs to keep track of, and he feels alone because of it. No one, not even the dorm leaders to some extent can understand how much Idia has to deal with, and what that means for his life. His future is already fixed but not in the direction Idia wants it. He can't change his career easily because there is no one else who can do his job for him.

Which is why Idia cuts corners so much. He has a lot to do, so he has to simply it all or he would go insane. He already has anxiety which I'm starting to think is due to the immense amount of pressure that he deals with on a daily basis. Interacting with other people is a problem for him because of reputation, status and responsibilities. He doesn't want to make himself look bad and is afraid of slipping up in front of someone else. It's why he tries to avoid all the unnecessary troubles people bring.

Speaking of which, I've noticed a few things about him that back this up:

He doesn't Bet where he knows he has no chance (ex: Bean's Day)

He tries to simply things to where he can handle the problem (ex: Star Sending)

He will speak his mind in front of others, and not everything he has to say is nice (ex most of his interactions, namely the Ghost Marriage event)

People in general have their own problems that can't easily be examined. Unlike a machine, you can't pull apart a person a just fix them by tinkering with their brain. Idia can't easily understand others because unlike Robots, people are unpredictable.

Everyone else on the other hand don't know what Idia goes through so they don't understand why he is the way he is.

Realizing this has made me love and appreciate Idia even more. Not only is he relatable to me, but he does a good job of taking responsibility and preforming his tasks without complaining. He understands purpose and does everything he can to live up to what people need him to be.

But that also makes me feel sorry for him. I hope that during this chapter, we'll find a way for him to be able to do more of what he likes and find a future where he can be happy, though I have a feeling that he might have to learn to accept the future he currently has before him.

Ortho wants Idia to be happy, and maybe this is why. Ortho had done a lot to try and get Idia to enjoy himself. Even though Idia doesn't always want to do what Ortho thinks will help him, Idia does it anyway for the love of his brother. And seeing Ortho happy makes Idia feel good, because to him, Ortho is the one that truly matters to him. And they both love each other and are willing to go out of their way to keep each other safe. Ortho wants a future where Idia can be happy, and Idia only wants Ortho with him because he is the only one who truly cares.

Honestly, their relationship so sweet and I hope nothing bad happens to Ortho because it would affect both of them. Badly.

Okay, that's all I have for this part. Please see the pinned post for context.

See you next chapter part!!!🤗🤗🤗

Side note: Vil has a lot of experience with responsibilities so maybe he's the only one who might be able to get to Idia, even though Vil's responsibilities are more optional in his favor, so...🤷

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Urgent Debate Post:

Just minutes ago I found this:

What does this mean for the next chapter?!?!

I need answers!!!!!!😧

Please reblog if anyone knows how this will go down.

#twisted wonderland #i did a thing #disney twisted wonderland #twst #idia shroud #night raven college #help meeeeee

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Okay, so real quick.

I looked on Twitter to try and figure out when exactly Chapter 6 would be released, but all I got was sometime at the end of August or the beginning of September.

Does that mean they're going to release it on a random date without warning or...?

They're doing this to torture us...right?😑

#twisted wonderland #night raven college #disney twisted wonderland #idia shroud #ortho shroud #shrouds please be safe this chapter #twst chapter 6 #send help #i'm not ready #when?!?! #Twisted Wonderland #twst #i did a thing

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Chapter 6 Special Blog Announcement!!

With the official release of chapter 6 due August 31st, I took the liberty in crafting a bingo board to house my most important Chapter 6 predictions!!!

There's a blank board just in case anyone else wants to make a bingo board!

As for scheduling, it'll be all over the place. When all chapter translations are finished for the current chapter part, I'll post a review and the board should anything be correct (but I most likely predicted what's not going to happen, soo...)

Oh! And all chapter reviews will be put under the cut to avoid spoilers.😊

Here is the list of corresponding predictions and ideas in order of events:

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B1- Perspective and belonging play a major role in this chapter.

I1- Vil/ Ortho forcing Idia to accept the Olympus Tech Company internship invite.

N1- Turns out the OTC is a trashy company with a terrible CEO.

G1- Family connections and talent are the status quo.

O1- They make consumable goods of poor quality, and treat their employees like dirt.

B2- OTC CEO is twisted off of Zeus.

I2- Twisted Zeus has a son who is a Magift player and is based off of Hercules

N2- We learn more about NRC and RSA history of rivalry

G2- Idia will be playing with us in the interschool Magift tournament (His unique magic is portals.)

O2- Epel get information on the enemy academy.

B3- Ignihyde has a data archive

I3- Vil is somehow responsible for separating the Shrouds.

Freespace: Ortho is based on the Titans from Hercules.

G3- Ortho gets taken by the Olympus Tech Company.

O3- OTC then proceeds to target Ignihyde Technology.

B4- we meet the fourth years and they lend us a hand.

I4- we see Mickey Mouse again (and maybe Malleus too)

N4- NRC will lose at first to RSA.

G4- RSA has been cheating this entire time and Idia finds out.

O4- Idia Overblots without a stone and brings Ortho back. Together, they both cast the same shadow.

B5- Epel unlocks his unique magic, "Deathlike Sleep" (I totally made that up😂).

I5- This is the first Overblot to become widespread outside of NRC.

N5- OTC is responsible for rigging the VDC voting program. (Did they invest in Neige? Is that even a thing?)

G5- Vil gets the role he's always wanted and Idia has a new reputation problem to deal with.

O5- Malleus crashes the NRC victory party at the end of the chapter cause he wasn't invited again.

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Here's the black one:

Looking forward to chapter 6! Have a great day!!😊🙃

#twisted wonderland #chapter 6 #shrouds please be safe this chapter #idia shroud #night raven college #ortho shroud #vil schoenheit #epel felmier #disney twisted wonderland #woo hoo!!! #FINALLY #I've been waiting forever!!! #twisted wonderland idia #i did a thing

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Random thought Experiment: being Nice vs being Good

(This doesn't fall under any fandom category and can be used for just about anything involving people because I've lost all hope for humanity ever since America started falling apart.)

Most people you know probably associate "goodness" and "niceness" as the same thing. In everyone's mind, the words are both blurred to have a similar or the same meaning (which is just how it is: 👍). However, they have definitions that don't actually line up:

When we say something is "Good", we really are talking about what's best for something or someone.

When we use the adjective "Nice", we are describing something or someone that is appealing or ideal.

So basically, goodness is something that is needed, and niceness is something that is wanted. Most of the time, both are associated with one another, but you can have one without the other, both, or neither at all.

There are four types of people. Just note that no one is on the extreme, even though they can be, but you need to remember that words are a tell and their actions show. Be careful who you encounter and watch who you trust. Sometimes, you need to see their actions in order to cast judgement.

Showing Niceness, Showing Goodness : the Saint

Niceness can mean one of two things about a person: either that their niceness is a reflection of their kind, loving inner nature, or it's all an act to cover up inner evil intentions. People who show Niceness because they are good are some of the greatest people you will ever meet. Kind people don't need to force others to do anything, and they don't intend to. These saints only want what's best for the ones they care about, and seek to bring joy to others. Sometimes they'll do whatever is necessary for the ones they care about and cast aside their personal desires to help someone in need.

Showing Niceness, Lacking Goodness: the Actor

These people may seem nice on the outside, but they are truly deceitful, selfish people who only put on the act of being nice for the sake of getting what they want. Some actors are so heartless that they will literally sacrifice the wellbeing of their "friends" just to get what they want. They lie almost all the time, it's almost as impulsive as breathing. And few even try to tear apart relationships and destroy friendships for personal gain or entertainment.

Lacking Niceness, Showing Goodness: the Doctor

These people may seem mean at first glance, but their actions tell you that they mean well. What they suggested may seem harsh, scary, or even mean, but in the end these people mean well. Because of their harsh behavior towards others, they are often misunderstood and taken as mean heartless people who like to watch others suffer. But in reality, these people just either want to be left to their own devices, or they're trying to help someone they care about. Sometimes being nice isn't enough. Sometimes the seemingly cruelest actions are actually the best things that need to be done. These doctors aren't always nice, but they do what's best for everyone around them, and themselves.

Lacking Niceness, Lacking Goodness: the Tyrant

This one is obvious. These people are evil, and it shows. Unlike the liers, they don't hide their malicious intentions in a normal setting. They don't hold acts of deceit for very long and tend to be quick to anger. Believe it or not, actors are worse than these tyrants. That's because at least you know these people are bad. For professional liers, it's very difficult to tell if they are a friend or foe, but for tyrants, you can instantly tell if they are good or not. Tyrants are obviously the people you want to avoid, because if you come into contact with one, you have a chance of destroying your life, or even yourself.

Now, like I said. No one is extreme in either case, but sometimes it's clear to see if someone means more harm than good. If their actions don't aline with their words, then they could be deceitful, or their just trying to help and miscommunicated. It really just depends on character.

So to make this easier to visualize, I just turned it into a graph!😀

I believe I fall around...

I'll admit, I'm not very nice or social IRL, but I try my best to keep my intentions morally good. There is a lot I can do to improve as well.

Thanks for reading. This is just a random post I decided to do instead of sleeping.

#i did a thing #random #stuff I did at 3 AM #im tired #fandom #fiction #real life #feel free to use #hi 😊

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Whats your take on the twst camp event?

Hmm...🤔

Well, I'd say that it's a survival program to train the students so that they can handle themselves in the wilderness. But, I have a few questions: Why would the headmaster threaten to shut down all the sports clubs just to make the students go on a three day camping trip? Why drag MC in a camera person even though they had nothing to do with it in the first place?

What I do know is that maybe the trip was supposed to give us a better insight on how magic works. I mean, we've got the fact that Vargus said that it's dangerous to cast magic without a magic stone, along with the magic stone's source. Plus the special rare flower that's found in the wild that can be used to create a healing potion.

Oh! And let's not forget about the second Overblot shadow in the cave that they fought. Probably another one of Crowley's torture-victem tests. I mean, who knows? There's most likely five more of those things in there. Makes me wonder if they plan on fighting them in future events and story lines.

As for Vargus 's final test, I knew it was him, but at first I thought it was his unique magic. I thought he had the power to turn into a beast, but since he's based off Gaston it wouldn't make any sense.

Ooh! Another good question: Why NOT the other clubs? The board game club has Azul and Idia, the Movie appreciation club has Vil plus about 10 people, the Mountain appreciation club has only Jade, and the Gargoyle Research club has just Malleus. So why exactly would just the sports clubs be involved with the camping program?

Honestly, I don't have to many thoughts on the Camping event. But it is helpful in the terms of Magical rules.

Thanks for asking!😊🙃

#twisted wonderland #twst ask #twst #hello there #🙃

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Idia Shroud's Ghost Marriage SSR: My personal take

I'll keep this brief. Before this event got it's rerun, I had a feeling that something important was going to be revealed in the new SSR. I ended up being right, not because it confirmed Lilia and Idia to be online gaming pals, but for a different reason: how Idia handles praise.

He feels embarrassed whenever a random person says he's cool or smart. And from what he's said, people would praise him all the time as a kid, and he still felt embarrassed. Wouldn't constant praise lift his self esteem and make him arrogant and spoiled? Why is he embarrassed at attention from people he doesn't know?

I think that he feels he doesn't deserve any positive attention from others. I'm going off of personal experience here, I don't like it when people say that I'm great. I'm terrible at taking compliments, but secretly, I honestly like it when people say I'm good at something. I've been told in the past that I have low self esteem, and they're probably right. But the reason why I can't handle praise from strangers is because I am constantly insulted by family members. Sometimes my dad, mostly my siblings (Not all of them!). Either way, they are constantly joking around, messing with me on some occasions, and when I tell them to stop, they say that I'm being to sensitive. Maybe they're right, but I don't constantly pick on them unless something important needs to be done. As a result, I'm not good at complimenting others because... I guess I don't know what a genuine compliment from a loved one looks like. When I try, it sounds fake so I avoid it.

Now, I'm no expert on psychology, but Idia can't handle praise from strangers, but he loves it when Ortho compliments him. Ortho is Idia's brother and is closer to him than anyone else. So that makes me wonder...

Are Idia's relatives the reason why he can't take praise or compliments? What exactly did they do to Idia to influence his behaviors and perception? I'm willing to bet that they didn't mean any harm, but the damage is plain to see.

Now, I'm not saying that my experiences aline with Idia's personally. I could be very wrong about this, but I just wanted to try and figure this out a little.

Thanks for reading. 🙂

#twisted wonderland #i did a thing #ignihyde #twst #twisted wonderland idia #disney twisted wonderland #Twisted Wonderland #night raven college

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Epel Felmier Appreciation post, Unique Magic Theory, and... His Possible Role in Chapter 6

Here's that Epel post I thought about making way back in February. Sorry for being late on this one.

For those of you who somehow don't know who I'm talking about, Epel Felmier is a first year student in the Pomefiore dorm. He's one of the shortest characters in the game, and at first glance, he seems like one of those quiet people. This has lead to some not taking an interest in him before the game's release due to the fact that he seemed like a bland character.

Then chapter 5 happened, and...yeah. He was not what we were expecting.

Sure, he has a quiet attitude most of the time, but as it turns out that's just an act. He's actually really brash, harsh and he does his best to try and be strong. Vil has been trying to teach Epel that strength isn't just physical, but you can also have strong points in other ways as well.

As far as we've seen, Epel has come to terms with his adorable (but also deceptive) appearance. In chapter 6, we are going to be getting his help along with the rest of Pomefiore. Even though Epel learned about his greatest strength, he has yet to put that strength to use in a way that will confirm that, yes, he has excepted himself. Of course, he already does except his appearance, but he has yet to use it for something useful.

And this is where the catastrophe of chapter six comes into play.

Harnessing Potential

Now, I don't agree with Vil all the time, but during the recent chapter, I have to admit, he was right about a lot of things. One of the things that seemed to make the most sense was indicated by Vil and even Epel's parents: Epel has a lot of potential. And in my opinion, if there is one thing that he can do, and become a master of the art, it would be one of the lessons Vil was trying to teach Epel: Acting.

I think that out of all the career choices out there, Epel's best suited career would be as an actor. And maybe that was intentional in game, because there is a part of acting to be played.

Now, allow me to direct your attention to the Hercules movie, to a character that was charming enough to play both sides in the Hercules vs Hades showdown. It's Megera.

Meg was able to make Hercules flustered enough for him to mess up during his "hero moments" Even though eventually the feelings of true love were returned in the movie, before that, Meg was an enemy in disguise. She was able to easily wrap Hercules around her finger, and though it wasn't intentional for her because she didn't hate Hercules, Hades still saw Meg as Hercules's weakness. And this was the very weakness Hades exploited against Hercules.

And guess what? That strategy almost worked. Hades would've won because he used Meg against Hercules. If Meg just went through to the end, Hades would've taken over Olympus.

It's funny how one key player can decide the fate of the game.

Act One

As we all know, Pomefiore is going to lend us a hand in the upcoming chapter. For Epel, I think he's going to play in two acts. The first act is going to take place for the tournament, and the second will be during the Overblot battle against the Shrouds.

Act one is actually very simple: getting into contact with the enemy team.

How this works is, well, it starts with an accidental encounter. It's probably going to take place at the remaining culture festival time, and the interactions will be between Twist!Hercules, and Epel. Now, Twist!Hercules is most likely an athlete, and he looks strong. Epel still admires physical strength and will be fascinated.

Now throw this piece of the puzzle in: the gangsters on the beach in chapter 5 thought Epel was a girl.

So Twist!Hercules is going to believe that at first as well, and he's going to get flustered. Before Epel can correct him, maybe they have a conversation, or maybe they establish some kind of long term contact like exchanging phone numbers or something. But one things for sure, it takes a while for someone from RSA to point out the Twist!Hercules just befriended the enemy.

As for Epel, at first his fellow Magift club members are gonna be mad, but someone (Most likely Idia or Leona) actually thinks that this is a good thing. If Epel is able to wrap a strong enemy Magift player around his finger, then maybe they can get ahold of whatever winning strategy that RSA uses.

Of course, maybe Idia also plays a part in taking Twist! Hercules out of the match, but Epel's going to make things a lot harder for RSA. He has stated that he's working on surprise attacks, and with his appearance to serve as a distraction, Epel's going to be a tough character to beat.

Along with Idia's unique magic being involved, this game is going to be a close match. Of course, the outcome is already decided. Through unfair means of course.

Act Two

When Idia Overblots, he's going to reunite with his separated brother, Ortho. And one of the people responsible for separating them is Vil Schoenheit. He agreed to separate them to help Idia, but didn't know about the Magic stone situation. When the Shrouds have Overblotted and are reunited, Ortho might ask for revenge on Vil for allowing the Olympus Tech Company to take him into custody.

What I'm getting at is that they're going to imprison Epel as a form of revenge.

It's a callback to Megera dying. Epel is going to be imprisoned and is probably going to have some kind of death countdown to being killed. Or he's just going to be contained. Twist!Hercules and Vil are going work together to free Epel. And Epel is going to unlock his unique magic in this battle.

Silencing the Overblot

Now, I would say that we don't know what Epel's unique magic is, but that would be a lie. I believe they've already given us the answer:

"I feel a strong power rising in me, like an ice-cold poison. Now it feels like I could put anyone to sleep… maybe?"

This is one of Epel's level up voice lines for the tutorial. I think that this is hinting what unique magic Epel will get: the power to put someone to sleep. This might not seem effective, but it's actually very powerful, and it makes perfect sense too.

Epel has a desire to become stronger than others. And even though he works hard, there are going to be people which he will never surpass in strength alone. So how do you defeat someone stronger than you?

You make them weaker than you.

And what is the most vulnerable state a person can be in besides sickness?

Sleep.

So, Epel will be able to beat his enemies in a fight by putting them to sleep, literally making them fall before him.

Of course, the spell is much more complicated than just putting someone to sleep. Maybe he can control what they dream about, learn their worst fears, or manipulate them even. None of this is solid of course. Maybe Epel doesn't have control of his magic when it first manifests.

But when this power does reveal itself, I think Epel's going to accidentally test on one unsuspecting student who was trying to rescue him: Neige. This is referring to the time Snow White ate the poisoned apple, yet Neige still never got put to sleep until now. At least he'll be out of harm's way.

The people who are actually successful in the rescue of Epel are the Twisted!Hercules person and Vil Schoenheit. Perhaps it's a race to get to him first, perhaps they decide to work together. Who knows? Anyway, then Vil provides a distraction while Epel uses his new power on Idia, effectively knocking him out.

That leaves an Overblot Ortho on the lose. I think Twisted!Hercules is going to be the one to take him down. He'll most likely smash Ortho to pieces, which might seem cruel, but under the circumstances, they have no choice.

Of course, Ortho might get taken down first, and then Idia. It can go either way.

Or I could be wrong. Thanks for reading!!😊

P.S. I managed to make a pretty stupid, but interesting connection with the Pomefiore trio and the Fates from Hercules. This was mainly made because of the similarities in all of the characters heights. And this suggests that Rook was actually originally the first dorm leader of Pomefiore, until Vil took the position. And Epel has hinted at overthrowing Vil and becoming the new dorm leader.

So drawing parallels to the Fates, Rook would be similar to the Fate of the past (Laecesis[ I probably spelled that wrong]), Vil would represent the Fate of the present (Clotho), and Epel resembling the Fate of the future (Atropes).

And get this: it's the Fate of the future that warns Hades about Hercules, just like Epel gathering information from the enemy team, and warning Idia about the key players to watch out for.

Have a nice time of day!

#twisted wonderland #i did a thing #ignihyde #twisted wonderland idia #twisted wonderland epel #twst #rook i swear if you know what's going on but don't tell us i give you a taste of my shoe #twst ortho #night raven college #royal sword academy #royal sword assholes #Twisted Wonderland #twisted wonderland theory #eat your heart out dire crowley #chapter 6 #disney twisted wonderland

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Chapter 6 predictions #4 or 5: The True victims of the next Chapter, and almost everything on the Shrouds Overblot. (Bonus Theory regarding RSA's system of Operations)

I'm back from the dead, everyone!!!

I took some time off of writing predictions and theories to think about more possibilities for the upcoming chapter. All Ignihyde stans and students are waiting for their beloved dorm leader to finally get therapy. And I believe that time is just around the corner.

So to kick things off the edge, let's talk about the true victims of Chapter 6.

Main challenge but not enemies

In the past, we've seen in the chapter previews that there is something sinister afoot. From planning homicide to trying to enslave whole dorms or oppress certain students, all sorts of things have been planned by dorm leader and vice dorm leader alike.

But for the current chapter preview, we didn't get any tell or foreshadowing of a sinister event or nefarious plan. Instead, we got a small celebration of a successful plan, followed by a rejection of the prizes that followed (with a hint of depression at the end). What exactly does this mean?

The Shrouds are the victims of Chapter 6. Now you're all screaming "yeah, what did you expect?!" at me, but there's more to the situation than you think. It's not just a victimizing of the past (which is most likely family problems at this point), but also the present. Because here's a little clue for you: if we're matching up the events of the Hercules movie and Chapter 6, the main story hasn't even started yet. Remember that at the beginning of Hercules the Titans were already imprisoned, and if Ortho is based off of the Titans, and he has yet to be captured by the OTC, then technically, the conflict between company and dorm begins with the imprisonment of Ortho Shroud.

The main plot is going to be Idia trying to live without his brother. And knowing Idia's mental health, this isn't going to go well. But don't worry, it doesn't start like that right away.

But there's still a massive problem with the separation of the Shrouds.

A new kind of Overblot

Any observant theorist can tell you that in Idia's ceremonial robes outfit, his pen is missing. Theories big and small have all stated a similar fact: Idia's gem is the thing powering Ortho's magic and Ortho in general (because we never see the multiple Ortho gears flying around at the same time). At first I was hesitant to believe that, but now I think that this is a fact. And there is evidence in the game to prove this:

We have never, not even in personal stories or events, seen Idia use any kind of magic.

And in battles, he uses the dorm leader wand. He never uses a pen, and we've never seen him cast any kind of magical spells. We've only seen him use technology instead.

On the contrary, Ortho has been seen firing powerful blast's of magical energy. Ortho does have magic as far as we've seen. Sure, it's not a particular spell, but remember, a spell is basically a magical command. And technology uses commands all the time.

So, what does this mean for the Overblot?

That warning from coach Vargus in the camping event wasn't just a warning, but a foreshadow. Idia doesn't use magic at all because he knows the risks. Unless Ortho is close by, he would never risk casting a spell. (And from what I've gathered from the recent Bean's day event, Idia would never fight a battle that he knew he couldn't win.) Idia doesn't take risks unless the odds are in his favor.

But if he doesn't use magic, then how will he Overblot? Simple answer.

I'd like to take this time to officially bet on Idia's unique magic. Out of the four options I speculated on in a previous post, I believe it's going to be a portal/ teleportation related magic. Here is the evidence:

It can't be any deal making related magic because we've seen Idia making negotiations, bets, and deals with other people, and none of those required any kind of magic.

Hades main weapon against Hercules was other monsters. He moved them around using a special gaming board that represented the land with pieces that represented each kind of monster.

One of the things Idia hates is being told what to do. His unique magic would be a manifestation of that, forcing anyone caught up in the position control to follow his instructions.

Hades was the one who released the Titans adding them on to the board.

And in Chapter 6, where we go up against RSA in the Magift tournament, I think Vil is going to try and draft Idia into the game because of his unique magic and statistic mind. Idia's unique magic would be a callback to Hades moving monsters in Hercule's path, because Idia will be able to move players around the field to where they're needed most.

I think it only works if the person is on his side. If he has some kind of relationship with the person, then he has the power to move them around. A fun little prediction for this magic would be it's name: "Game Set!" (Hades says these words right before Hercules's first match with the Hydra.)

With this unique magic in use, Idia is going to be using magic a lot in the next chapter. But he hides the fact that his magical stone is in Ortho from the group. But he does make an alternate excuse to have Ortho by his side during the practice: for confidence and motivation. Of course, Vil's gonna see Ortho as an obstacle to Idia developing social skills. And this is where the OTC comes in and takes Ortho.

With the separation of the Shrouds, Idia is going to start feeling th the negative side effects of the blot. Why would he keep playing despite that? Maybe it was Ortho's last wish before being taken. We all know Idia would do anything for his little brother, and one last game against their enemy school would be a wish that inspires Idia to push beyond his limits for Ortho.

On the day of the tournament, Idia makes good on his promise, playing for the sake of his brother, and silently suffering the negative side effects of the blot that's collecting inside of him due to excessive magic use and negative emotions like anxiety. And they lose.

It's just too bad that Idia's the one who discovers the cheating RSA has done.

How exactly do they cheat? Well, ever noticed that all RSA students have the same colored gem? I was thinking some kind of magic seal would be placed on the disk that only responds to the type of magic stone the RSA students use.

Idia figures this out causing the Overblot effects to kick in. He Overblots on the field in front of millions of spectators.

In every villain final boss battle in the Disney movies, those battles don't have that many people watching. Sure a few eye wittness's but not thousands of people. Alice woke up from the bad dream that is Wonderland, Ariel's battle with Ursla ends with herself and prince Eric, and Only the Evil Queen saw Snow White collapse after biting the poisoned apple.

But during the Titan's rampage, everyone knows. The gods are on high alert, the people are running to get to safety, and the hero goes out to make on last stand against Hade's forces.

In turn, every Overblot battle has been kept a secret on campus. The students don't talk about the shadows, and past events have been quietly filed away and mostly forgotten. Some students are still wary of the victims, but besides Jamil's episode, no one outside of campus knows about it.

Until Idia's Overblot happens. Only a few thousand of people saw Jamil's Overblot, but here, millions of people will see it. This will be the first Overblot incident to become widespread outside of NRC. And the first incident the RSA students will face.

And this is another place where Idia's unique magic would come in. Did I mention that Hades freed the Titans? Idia is going to bring Ortho back from captivity. But Ortho won't be completely normal either.

During his time away, Ortho will be trying to get back to his brother. He becomes scared, desperate, and he worries about Idia all the time. Ortho tries to break out, but fails. BTW, the OTC treats Ortho like a dangerous weapon, not a person. They also insult Idia which makes Ortho mad. Ortho's negative emotions plus the magic used in an attempt to break out causes another pool of blot to gather. Ortho Overblots in captivity only for Idia to free him with a portal shot all the way from RSA (assuming the tournament takes place there).

There we all fight the Overblotted Shrouds. RSA students call them evil and try to fight the Shrouds but RSA fails due to a lack of experience. We gather up and try to take the Overblots down but we almost lose as well until... well, that will be a surprise.🤗

I'll reveal what and who will stop the Overblot in the next prediction post.

In the meantime, let's go back to that statement about RSA students all having the same gem color.

This particular detail has lead me to believe that RSA doesn't have a dorm system. I think they have some kind of student council instead. In a different post I mentioned something about all hero's looking more or less the same. They also have similar ways of thinking as well. Maybe there are eight types of people with magic. One type is so widespread that it gets it's own school, while the other seven rarer types get called by the dark mirror and sorted into smaller groups (the dorm system).

Basically RSA is basically a place for the widespread idea of heros, while NRC has the rest of the magic types. Maybe RSA students are taught that their magic type is superior to the others.

Or I could be wrong. Thanks for reading! The next post will be out soon!😊😊😊

Small prediction: Twisted!Hercules (Most likely Crimson muscle) has the unique magic: Zero to Hero! which gives him the ability to become incredibly strong in an instant! You cannot change my mind.🙃

#twisted wonderland #ignihyde #night raven college #royal sword academy #twst idia #idia shroud #ortho shroud #vil schoenheit #jamil viper #chapter 6 #shrouds please be safe this chapter #they probably won't #but still #rook i swear if you know what's going on but don't tell us i give you a taste of my shoe #disney twisted wonderland #twisted wonderland theory #twisted wonderland idia

[extemely-thoughtful-person]

Okay, that makes the most sense. 🤔

What if the fairies' gifts were separated from the original twist!Aurora? Like, twist!Aurora is just average looking, is still some kind of royalty, but because Silver has the gifts, he isn't exactly the most beautiful or graceful person.

Then they meet. Maybe they're related by blood or something. Who knows?

Theory: What Silver Is Truly Twisted From

A Happy Belated Birthday Silver!!!!!!!

(Would you believe me if I told you, I had this in my drafts for a while now, only as part of a bigger post for all the ‘?’ students and decided to rework Silver’s bit as a belated Birthday Gift to him??? 😅)

So I’ve seen plenty of theories on Silver’s true identity and the most prevalent theory is that Silver is twisted from the Sword of Truth; the sword that killed Maleficent in the original ‘Sleeping Beauty’

And I’m very confident when I say that I don’t think that theory’s wrong.

I know the theory’s wrong.

Normally, I would NEVER say something as confidently as I’m saying this, so I hope that convinces you to give, what I’m about to say, a try.

So first thing’s first; if Silver’s not twisted from the Sword of Truth, what is he twisted from?

Well the biggest clue to his identity, sans icon, is the fact that he uses light magic for his Null attacks—meaning he’s not twisted from something villainous

What fueled this theory was actually another Silver theory; and that’s, that he’s twisted from Aurora herself.

The evidence provided for this speculation is the fact that he exhibits traits similar to Aurora; attracting animals, purple eyes, and a tendency to fall asleep.

But that’s also wrong.

Because while Aurora does indeed share those traits with Silver, it’s not because he’s twisted from Aurora—rather Silver is twisted from what she has.

In other words: Silver is twisted from the Three Good Fairies’ Gifts.

See:

Aurora’s purple eyes were a signifier of the her literal enchanted beauty, her Gift of Beauty; Silver’s eyes are explicitly called aurora silver, both in the Magical Archives and in-game, referred to as ‘aurora’, and look purple—in fact if you look closer you’ll notice that his eyes have shades of blue and pink in them. Sound familiar?

Silver’s strange, natural affinity for animals, despite not being good at Animal Languages, is a carry over from Fauna’s Gift of Song, where Aurora’s singing would be so beautiful, animals couldn’t help but be drawn to her. Silver mentions how the animals would always come to him, when he was feeling particularly downtrodden, echoing how the Aurora’s animal friends comforted her, when she was feeling lonely.

His tendency to fall asleep, which originally led to theories that he’s twisted from Maleficent’s Curse or the Spindle of the Cursed Spinning Wheel, but that’s already been disproven, by virtue of the detail of his Null Magic above. Moreover, Maleficent’s Curse was that Aurora would die; it was Merryweather that altered the curse so that Aurora would fall asleep instead. So ultimately, Silver’s sleepiness is a result of Merryweather’s Gift.

What gives this theory even further weight is the fact that, very suspiciously, Silver of all Diasomnia students, has a classroom chat where he not only mentions a ‘princess from a long time ago’ who received magical gifts from Three Fairies, but name-drops all the gifts.

With his Birthday Suit Up, comes further lore, but also the eagerly anticipated pin, which looks like this:

[Credit to momori_0816 on Twitter for the Photo]

People were quick to point out the fact that the pattern behind the sword on the pin was none other than Aurora’s Crown itself. So naturally people doubled down on the Aurora Theory.

But remember.

Aurora’s Crown was also a gift.

“This one last gift, dear child for thee, a symbol of thy royalty; a crown to wear in grace and beauty, as is thy right and royal duty.” -Flora

And it was a gift from all the Three Good Fairies.

So then, how should I explain all the sword imagery, if Silver’s not twisted from the Sword of Truth?

Well it’s simple.

The Sword Icon for Silver is an analogue.

It’s supposed to be a physical way to represent the fact that Silver’s the Three Gifts, because let’s be honest, how are you supposed to visually depict something that abstract without the design getting overly complicated?

The Sword was picked because, it too, once again, was a gift; something from Flora to Prince Philip.

The best way to summarise the fact that Silver’s the Three Gifts is by hinting at it with another, more tangible gift.

And that, my fellow TWST Fans, is my evidence on what Silver truly is.

TL;DR

Silver’s twisted from the Three Good Fairies’ Gifts.

[extemely-thoughtful-person]

Guess what? April 26 is national useless information day, so...

WE SOLVED TWISTED WONDERLAND EVERYONE!!!!

Is it to good to be true? Probably! But that won't stop me from ranting about a major possibility about everything! Me and one of my sisters were talking about twst, and we managed to solve it to a degree.

Before I continue, I'm introducing all followers and intrigued readers to my new motto: Always be prepared to be wrong, or to fail.

Because what we're talking about isn't just chapter material, we're talking the long game: what is Yuu doing in twisted wonderland? What is Crowley planning? Why is there a corporate corrupted mouse trapped in the mirror of our bedroom? And many, many more questions that the fandom has been asking.

To begin, yes. The chances of this being wrong are higher than the moon, but we're willing to discuss anyways.

How Twisted Wonderland came to be

The first topic we're gonna tackle is the mechanics of the worlds. We currently know there are two (three counting the afterlife). The worlds are Twisted Wonderland, and Earth. But what if I were to tell you there are four worlds?

Think about it. We've heard about the world of the Queen of Hearts mentioned by the Heartslybule students time and time again. Something I started to realize is that that world, or Wonderland, isn't in Twisted Wonderland. They're two separate worlds. And it's not just Wonderland. Attached to Wonderland is another world I'm gonna call the Disney-verse. This is the dimension were the classic disney films take place (most of them not counting Wonderland). We are able to witness the past events of the Disney-verse through the old films on Earth.

And in that world, the heros are always victorious. It doesn't matter how many questionable choices they make or how far they go, they are the heros. They always triumph over the villains. Basically, this is the original world where the chaos all starts.

(BTW, I'm considering the Disney-verse was actually originally the land of Fairytales, up until disney came along and corrupted it beyond repair, but, that's that world's origins and possiblity a crack idea.)

A certain someone wasn't happy with how the Disney-verse was being run. And it's not just any scumbag who's just a sore loser. It's a character who experiences the loss of his Beautiful Queen, the one who was left behind after the fall off the cliff, it's Dire Crowley.

Crowley absolutely despised how Mickey ran his world (considering how Mickey might be in charge of the Disney-verse) and, well, before the events of Snow White, Crowley didn't really care. But after the death of the Evil Queen, he grieved her loss. After all that went down, he started looking towards revenge. He hated the princesses, princes, and heros, especially Snow White. He wanted to watch them fall, but since this is the Disney-verse, that's impossible to do. The villains always lose and the heros always win. So how would Crowley get his revenge in a world where he can't win?

Simple answer, he finds a world where he can win.

How exactly twisted wonderland was created, we're still figuring out, but I've got a pretty good idea of how. Remember Wonderland? What if that world was somehow duplicated, then tweaked to fit the current reality we see in the game?

Basically, Crowley uses magic to find Twisted Wonderland ( a world where the Villains are the heros) though Wonderland, but because it's a copy of Wonderland, the two worlds remain connected at a certain point. To prevent Mickey from finding his villain's world and reforming or destroying it, he lays down a set of barriers to keep Mickey out. (We'll talk about the conditions needed to break the barrier in a little bit.)

The Purpose of Night Raven's Collage

But setting up a base in an opposite universe isn't enough, no. He wants Mickey destroyed. But how will he do that? Clearly the original villains, who are glorified in this world are heros, are gone! There's nothing he can do about that, so who will be able to stand head to head with the mouse?

Perhaps a new generation of villains. Or people with the late villains' qualities.

This is the purpose behind the establishment of Night Raven's Collage. To find the strongest, smartest villain equivalents in all of Twisted Wonderland, and train them to fight Mickey Mouse.

How travel between worlds works

Still with me? Great. Cause this is where things get complicated.

As stated earlier, Twisted Wonderland and Wonderland are the closest worlds together, but both remain separated by a barrier preventing travel. So how exactly does this work?

From what we know from the manga, Yuuken is walking down the street, but then gets hit by the Ebony Carriage. This scene tells us three things: 1) that the carriage was able to travel between two separate dimensions, 2) Yuuken was awake during the whole endeavor. Of course, he did get knocked out, but he wasn't dreaming about the Ebony Carriage. And 3) Yuuken is not dead.

So firstly, let's get to point number 1 about the carriage being able to travel between worlds. How exactly? Well we all know the Mirror of Darkness picks out the young students he sees are worthy for NRC. So the Mirror of Darkness had to have been the one to send the carriage across worlds to pick up Yuuken. For all we know, the Mirror could be in on the plan to destroy Mickey. His job is finding students for Crowley's collage who are worthy of taking on the ultimate protagonist. That mirror might even be the same mirror of truth that was brought from the Disney-verse to Twisted Wonderland.

Now for point number 2. Yuuken was awake before getting knocked out, stuffed into a coffin, then shipped off to Night Raven's. This tells us something very important: You need to be awake, and aware in order for the carriage to find you. All students at the college got a former notice that they were worthy of the academy, and therefore, they were able to prepare. They packed their bags and went to meet the carriage, then... They were knocked out, just like Yuuken. Only this time, they saw this coming. They knew this was how the carriage brought them to the college. And because it's hard for just anyone to get to the Isle of Sages, that wouldn't be a problem for the carriage. But the dimensions issue is the problem. Maybe Crowley does have a way to get to Yuuken's world. Maybe he's had it the whole time. But one things for sure: minus the knock out at the carriage, you need to be awake to get to Twisted Wonderland.

But there's something more to pay attention to. The dimensional paradox. While you need to be awake Get to TWST, you have to be asleep and dreaming to enter the original Wonderland. Alice was asleep, and Mickey was two. And they both left Wonderland by waking up. So what does this mean for the two Wonderlands?

Mickey and Alice both are from the Disney-verse so that means there is a stong connection between that world and Wonderland. While there may be connections to all worlds, the strongest connections lie between Twisted Wonderland and Wonderland, Twisted Wonderland and Earth, and Wonderland and the Disney-verse.

But here's something you should think about. If Mickey has been visiting Wonderland during our encounters while he's asleep, we were visiting him while we were awake. And what's more? Since Mickey is a foreigner to Wonderland, and we're a foreigner to Twisted Wonderland, and we both cross paths in the states we need to be in to travel between the worlds we're trapped in, then what does this paradox do to the barrier between the two Wonderlands?

It weakens it. Mickey has stated that it's getting easier to find us, and that a more stable connection is being established between the two dimensions. This means it's only a matter of time until Mickey has built up enough strength to cross the line.

For point number 3, if we aer actually dead, then what kinda sick afterlife is Twisted Wonderland? But unless our souls where somehow captured, transported to another body, and shipped off to Night Raven's, us being dead is highly unlikely.

The Portal's main location, and the purpose of Ramshackleand

And there is a location where the two Wonderlands meet.

At first, I was at a loss about Ramshackle, but I think that this "dorm" wasn't actually ment to be a dorm. Sure, people stayed in it at one point, but it was never an official dorm. There is no eighth villain representing Ramshackle because the dorm is supposed to represent the world Twisted Wonderland parallels. Or more specifically, the opposite of their world, the world that's just a pain of glass away. This dorm parallels Wonderland, and the Disney-verse.

We've seen the old cartoons, and the resemblance to them is uncanny. This dorm is the base location for the main portal to Wonderland, and it's furnishings are a reminder of that purpose. We all know Crowley is drigger happy with references, so it's no surprise he built a fake, forgotten dorm as a location to hide the magic looking glass.

Now did people stay there at one point? Yes, I believe they did. Maybe this was where Crowley was camping out while the college was under construction. The builders could have stayed there too. And when the school was finished and the first dorm was established, the building was abandoned. Left to rot. Forgotten about.

But Crowley never truly forgot. He just never brought up the dorm because the portal was located in the building. It's one of those secrets he just let stay buried until the time was right to dig it up again.

And that time is when we arrive.

The Purpose of All Overblots and their Shadows

This was the hardest one to figure out. The annual chapter Overblots could be to bring back the Great Seven. But after the schools purpose of establishment, I'm not so sure that's the case anymore.

Think about it. Could Crowley try to get seven villains to work together? I mean, the amount of inward fighting and almost impossible promises and motivations would really hard for the headmaster to sustain. After all, they might have the power to take on the mouse, but they're long dead. Also, they may have learned where they went wrong, but it's highly likely they would repeat their same mistakes again. Plus, the Great Seven are way more powerful than Crowley so he has no control over them.

But what about a group of undertrained highschool students?

They may not be as powerful, but at least they're manageable. Any motivations that they could have are definitely easier to supply (or he probably will not, after all, Crowley's been known to be untrustworthy). And adding in the fact that these students haven't even reached their fullest potential, there's a lot they can do.

All they need is the proper training.

All Overblotted dorm leaders where nothing more than tests. Every Overblot faced a different kind of problem, each with a different type of solution. Of course, the battle fight may not change to much, but the emotional and mental problems of the victims get addressed in each chapter. As a result, beating them allows the dorm leader to learn from their past and use those lessons to improve their lives. We've already seen ample examples of this. And it makes them grow stronger as the previous victims help us overcome the current victim.

They participate one at a time also being able to test their strength towards a stronger enemy. This is the reason why the Headmaster lets these Overblots happen on campus.

But what about the dwarf Overblot shadows from the mines?

This is the darker part of the plan. Those are back up tests just in case any students wander over there. He claims they don't exist, but he put them there not just as a part of his master plan, but also as a part of his revenge.

Anyone asking what happened to the original seven dwarves from Snow White after the ride into the sunset scene?

Yeah. Those shadows are from the original seven dwarves. You see, after Crowley established his base and a portal between the worlds, he was trying to come up with an extra test. He also wanted revenge on the main people who killed his Queen.

What happens next answers the following questions:

Why are there shadows in the caves?

Who exactly Overblotted?

How many more are there?

Where does Night Raven's Collage get their supply of magical stones?

He kidnapped the seven dwarves, brought them over to Twisted Wonderland, and, because this is the villains world where evil wins plus the fact that Crowley's much more powerful than the dwarves at this point, enslaves the dwarves to mine the caves. During this time, Crowley gets his supply of magic stones that are used in our pens. But it's only a matter of time before the dwarves' time in the mine starts to break them.

They just got dragged away from their home and forced to live in another world. They've lost everything they've ever known. These, along with another inevitable negative emotion: greed, start to pool up. They begin hoarding magical stones for themselves guarding them and, at first, keeping them from the Headmaster. But these soon selfless motivations turn to greed as they hoard and hoard, fights breaking out over the suspicion of stolen rocks, and eventually, they Overblot. And they die.

But that doesn't stop their never ending quest to keep the Overblot stones for themselves. If anyone comes their way, they won't leave any survivors.

And what about Grim?

Grim is the magic that we need to get to Twisted Wonderland, and he's the ultimate test. This is probably where things are most likely to go wrong. After all, we couldn't beat Grim in the tutorial, so...

All motivations

Now, this is where things get really interesting.

Crowley has had this plan going to find the best villains of twisted wonderland and train them to fight his enemy, but it doesn't just stop there.

He's spent years searching for the perfect batch of students, and now, he's finally found the ones. But there's a problem. They end up dying.

How exactly? From their Overblots. Now how could the Headmaster abide by that in a few students are dead?

He doesn't. Not only are there the liability problems that come with a student death, but he's losing an almost irreplaceable pawn that could take at least a decade to find a replacement for. And an opportunity like the one we are in isn't likely to happen again. So, what does he do?

This is where @mia-pon289's Time loop Theory comes into play.

He's been keeping the academy on a time loop that activates every time a valuable player dies. Whenever someone gets killed, Crowley resets the game.

And it's getting to the point where some students are starting to notice. I'm not sure how many students know Crowley's grand master plan or how many people are aware of the loop, but some are definitely starting to sense that something is afoot.

And the reason why we're here is because the headmaster has found the perfect take. The mirror of darkness has decided that our soul has the correct qualities to not just stop the people from dying, but to also set off the events in motion. You see, we aren't just ment to be a therapist for the students, but we are the ones who are going to trick Mickey into crossing the Wonderlands.

We've met him a few times, and with each visit, he's starting to trust us. Eventually, he'll try and cross over. Our encounters bring the two worlds together. Now as for a cross over, it's most likely going to be a mutual exchange. Basically you both have to cross the mirror at the same time, and vise versa to return. Maybe with more encounters, however, this rule won't be necessary.

Now, why would Mickey want to come over to Twisted Wonderland?

When he hears from us how this world is run, he's going to get worried, be mad, or want to "rescue" us from the villain's world. When he crosses over, he'll look around and see that we were telling the truth, and he'll try to bring the path of heroism with him. Then Crowley will spring his trap. Ever paid attention to the cliff Night Raven's Collage is perched upon? That, my friend, is the secondary barrier the headmaster set up to prevent the mouse from getting lose. A "mouse trap" if you will. Then, he'll ralley the students, and attack.

Now, did Crowley fail and reset this fight as well? Maybe once or twice.

As a result, Mickey knows about twisted wonderland, and acts oblivious when we tell him about it. He memories of the world weren't erased, and he knows what Crowley is trying to do. So, Mickey set his own little tests while he was briefly in twisted wonderland, and uses those to discourage the NRC students.

The first test is Royal Sword Academy. I don't know what Mickey left behind, maybe the sword in the ths stone, but whatever it was, it was powerful enough to inspire The foundation of a hero's academy. And that sense of the hero's eternal victory residents within the academy, discouraging the chosen ones of the dark mirror from fighting the heros of the world.

Or maybe their all gigantic fakes. You never know. Or maybe it's both.

Now the things that could've come from RSA like the founding of the OTC or other hero based areas is the second thing to come out of Mickey's "gift". And because of the base rule, the hero's gotta go somewhere, right?

As for the students caught in the crossfire, well, their goals are various, but the main one is to stop the Time loop. If they ever got the upper hand against Mickey and actually won, they would be more likely to make it so that Mickey can't ever come back to Twisted Wonderland ever again. Not necessarily killing him, just permanent banishment.

And do the academy students of RSA know what their actually doing? Probably not. But just because they don't see the problem doesn't mean that it's not there.

Other smaller aspects

Maybe we'll get to visit Wonderland during chapter 7. I'll let you guess how.

The tiny Mickeys we see hidden in every seen could be a symbol of Mickey's presence, he knows what's going on and he's watching us.

We can't be dead because if there is a common world of the dead that applies to all dimensions, we'd be in the afterlife. (Or there are various versions of the afterlife.)

Maybe we weren't the first person to be brought to Twisted Wonderland.

Perhaps if RSA is actively trying to help Mickey with his goals in secret, they'll try and take us out of the picture by trying to send us home.

Items like the talking portraits are a sign that Twisted Wonderland is an opposite copy of Wonderland

The ghosts that Mickey, Donald, and Goofy got rid of in the Disney-verse came with Crowley to Twisted Wonderland and agreed to guard the main Wonderland portal.

Crowley dropping in during the special lessons in the gameplay could be him checking on how the students are doing with their studies, a strength checkup if you will. (Gotta make sure they're strong enough for pest patrol!)

Our dreams through the mirror in Ramshackle could be Mickey trying to communicate with us about the hero's truth. He's showing us the events from the movies from the heros perspective.

Every dream makes the connection to the mirror stronger to the point of not needing it to see visions

The hero's represent a perfect reality where we can do whatever we want. The Villains represent our actual reality:

1) We need to follow the rules to a certain degree.

2)You need to be strong enough to handle yourself and your problems.

3) You need to be able to understand people who aren't you and try to see the world through their shoes.

4) You can't just be deserving, you need to be worthy, and smart enough to get what you want.

5) You need to do everything necessary to achieve your goals, no matter how boring or tedious the task at hand.

6)You can have a sense of pride, but remember that you learn from your mistakes, an that you aren't perfect no matter how much it may seem like you are.

7) A happily ever after doesn't just present itself to you, you need to make it happen yourself, for through hard work and diligence alone are you able to truly achieve your dreams.

That's all for the post!!! I know this one is a bit confusing, so if you have questions, just ask! And if you have your own thoughts to add, feel free to reblog! Thanks for reading!!!

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Twisted Wonderland.

About a few minutes ago,I just read Epel's dorm uniform voice lines. In one of his lines,he said something about a creepy basement in Pomefiore dorm:

“I once got lost in the dorm and ended up at this creepy basement. I wonder what that room is used for…” -Epel Felmier 🍎

Do you think this has something to do with Dire Crowly? 🤔 Or is it just me imagining things?

Actually, I just recently read Epel's lines earlier today. (He's my second favorite character in the game.) Keep in mind that, according to canon information from the game, Pomefiore is the oldest and also the first dorm to ever be established at NRC. I firmly believe that Crowley has some kind of obsession with the Beautiful Queen. So it would be no surprise if the whole of Pomefiore was designed after the original castle from Snow White. Because of a secret laboratory in the basement only the Evil Queen knows about, it would make sense for Crowley to design the dorm down to the last detail to be full of references.

I also believe in the theory of Crowley being the pet crow from Snow White. But we still don't know his motives, or if he's planning something sinister.

Thanks for asking 😊🙃

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50 followers special theory!!! (Prepare for a brain rot!!!)

Even MORE Chapter 6 Predictions: the Olympus Tech Company, RSA vs NRC details, and mini theory regarding the release date.

Now, your probably all getting impatient about Chapter six's release date. The events are something to look forward to, but it just doesn't answer what happens next in the main story line. But because of impatience, I would like to say something: it could be worse.

Seriously, I was (and still am) a fan of RWBY, and let me tell you. Their yearly hiatus is pure torture. Their release dates are in late October to early November, with their volumes ending anywhere around the end of February to early April. This leaves a time span of anywhere from 8 to 10 months between each volume. And the writing for that show isn't even close to as good as Twisted Wonderland's.

So I'm taking a second to appreciate not just the quality, but the speed of the writing and development of each chapter. Along with the effort that goes into each event, repair and update. Your doing great TWST crew! Keep up the good work!💕♥️

So, with that said, let's get to a few issues I've been thinking about for a while now.

The Olympus Tech Company

What We Know So Far

The Olympus Tech Company is one of the best tech companies in Twisted Wonderland. They sponsored the VDC voting system, and are a pretty big deal in the world. Upon receiving an invitation for an internship from the company, we learn from Ortho's reaction that getting something like this is a huge deal. It's probably a very rare occurrence for the company to undertake interns.

Idia got the intern easley enough, most likely due to his skill, and not social status. But, instead of accepting the invitation, he tossed it in the trash. Along with the rest of his invitations to work for other smaller companies.

Many people have been asking the very fair questions: Why would you throw away a great opportunity like that? What kind of past events would lead a person to toss away something that thousands of people would jump at the chance to do?

These kinds of questions are good, but this is the questions I've been asking: Did Idia make the right choice by throwing a valuable invite in the trash? Will his choice come back to bite him in the rear later on?

The reason why I ask these kinds of questions is because we don't know anything else about the Olympus Tech Company (OTC). For all we know they could premote enslavement there. (They obviously don't, but we don't really know that)

So because we know so little about the company, I decided to consult the next most accurate source besides the game, the Hercules movie. More specifically, mount Olympus, and it's residents. And I gotta say, some of the stuff I found at the beginning of the film was more than enough to make an educated guess as to what kind of company the OTC is really like.

And it's not as good as the universe makes it out to be.

My Research and Opinions regarding Olympus

Before I formally begin, allow me to cast some light on a very important factor that will change your whole output on the movie. Remember the first song that's preformed by the Muses, the Gospel truth right? This song is preformed throughout the film in smaller parts, but the whole concept of the song is very disturbing if you think about it like this. Although the title Gospel refers to the type of music used in the song, it is also a reference to something else: the perspective of the whole story. Gospel means "good message" or " good word" but it is also referred to as "the word of God".

And in this case, the word of the gods of Olympus. Or even Zeus himself. But do you realize what that means? This story is told from the perspective of the Olympians. But what about any input from a neutral party? Or even a question or two from Hades himself about the situation from his point of view?

Nope. It's just the Olympian's perspective. That's probably why Hades is depicted with more monstrous features, because they saw him as the villain.

Keep this Gospel detail in mind, because it comes in as a very important factor later on.

Now, where to begin?

The Titans

From what I could gather the titans are the primal monsters of this whole movie. They're mindless powerhouses that walk the face of the earth until Zeus comes along and traps them under the ocean. The only way to free them is to wait for the planets in the solar system to align perfectly, which in turn should cut a path through the waters and, with the help of a god, free them.

And right off the bat, there are several things that I'm questioning. Like, If Zeus put them down there in the first place, then what's to stop him from doing it again? Why is Hercules the only one who can beat the titans in round two? And despite the almighty power of the Olympian counsel, how did dozens, if not hundreds of gods lose to the titans when Zeus defeated them by himself in the first place? And how in Hade's name did Hercules beat them all? And he's lesser than all the gods at this point! How?! HOW?!??!!!

Besides that, there's not to much else to say about them. But they could be important...

Olympus

Okay, there's a lot of things I've noticed about Olympus itself. Btw, I'm not talking about the gods of Olympus, just the place itself.

Firstly, everything is made of clouds. If something gets destroyed, then it automatically repairs itself. But I think that the cloud structures of the buildings isn't just a callback to the heavens, but it reminds me of a place that seems unreal. Like, something like this isn't supposed to exist. "It's too good to be true" kinda place. It looks like a paradise, like a perfect place to live, like a place everyone would want to live.

Which brings me to my next observation: the gates to Olympus are closed. I feel like this detail is more important than you may realize. It could mean that only the gods and goddesses are allowed up here, it could mean that you need to earn your ticket there as well. One things for sure, not just anyone can waltz up there like they own the place, there's a certain type of person that's allowed up here. If you don't fit the status quo, then you aren't welcome.

Besides the gates being closed, anyone who can go over or are authorized can and do go in. But don't expect to get there without a ticket.

The gods

This is where things get dark.

The gods and goddesses of Olympus are very chill up close the first time we see them. They seem like nice people, just hanging out in heaven enjoying a paradise. They got invited to a party to celebrate a reasonable event that anyone should enjoy. Nothing seems to be wrong about this, right?

Well, when Hades enters the picture for the first time the atmosphere gets dark. It's because it's a very rare occurrence for the god of the underworld to be in Paradise. Even the other gods are wary of his presence. But Zeus did invite him because they're brothers, right? Family inviting family for a nice reunion? Hades is just being ungrateful, he's killing the mood and it's his fault, right?

No. It isn't Hades fault for anything. Mostly.

Remember what I said about the Gospel truth? How the story it told from the prospective of the Olympians? This is where that prospective comes into play.

Hades is just terrible from the olympian point of view. Is he actually bad though? No. I think that Hades is better than all the gods on Olympus combined. And the interactions tell us a lot, and give us information to back this up.

For one Hades says that most of what the gods actually do is just...well... nothing. They just hang out on Olympus partying and enacted what they call "divine justice" on the mortals. They just cash royalty sacrifices from their temples on earth, get human worship, and laze around while they do next to nothing. We even see this later in the movie.

Hades on the other hand has the full time job of ruling the underworld, which I might add is a huge responsibility. You gotta make sure that the dead come to the underworld, make sure they get the proper judgement, and you need to make sure they don't try to escape into the living world. This job takes up most of Hade's time, but like I mentioned in a previous post about Ignihyde being about adapting, Hades manages to make the job doable by only one person keeping the underworld in order. But even with the shortcuts involved, it's still a pretty hard job.

And get this, Zeus gave...no forced this job on to Hades. The poor guy didn't even get a say in the matter. He didn't get to choose, but instead a cosmic rando of a brother just walked up to him and said " Hey, bro! Imma gonna give you a job away from home that's gonna be a bit tough, but don't worry! All you gotta do is keep an entire realm that is just as big if not bigger than Olympus under control. Make sure the dead don't come up to the surface to start a zombie apocalypse! Okay? Okay! Love ya! Thanks!"

And Zeus doesn't even bother to help Hades in anyway. So basically, while the gods just sit on cloud cushions doing next to nothing, Hades is down in the underworld doing an important, thankless job just because his younger brother gave him that responsibility without his input.

I did say Olympus was full of nice people, I never said they were good.

And what Zeus did to Hades? It's disgusting because Hades did nothing to deserve this treatment. And wanna know something else? Inviting Hades to a party on Olympus is just a huge insult rather than a nice reunion. Because Zeus is basically saying, " Hey bro! Welcome back to the paradise we practically kicked you out of! It's such a nice party we're having, reminding you of everything your missing out on! Isn't my son adorable? It's so nice that he was born into a place like this, and loved by everyone just because his father is the king. Btw, no one finds your jokes funny because, if we're being honest, you don't really belong here!" And Zeus even has the audacity to tell Hades to stay longer. Wanna know why he does that? It's because if Zeus just told Hades to leave then it would make Zeus look bad, telling his own brother to go. In reality, it would be nicer to Hades to just tell him he's not wanted than making yourself look better by keeping him in a place that's out of his league.

So I'm asking the question, is Hades right to try and take Olympus?

In many cases, yes. However the way he goes about it isn't that great. But honestly, I don't blame him for wanting to tear his deadbeat family apart.

Another question that I ask myself: If Hades was allowed to stay in and rule Olympus, would he do a better job?

Actually, yes. I believe he would, because even though Hades would enjoy himself up there, he has a productive personality. He managed to make running the underworld easier for himself, so it would be cake for Hades to be in charge of Olympus. Not only that, but he could do so much better because he would not just find ways to cut corners with quality work, his presence would make things farer for everyone else.

Remember what I said earlier about the status quo? That only the gods are allowed on Olympus? Hades may be a god, but it's made clear from his first appearance and the Olympian's reactions that he doesn't fit the status quo. Monsters, and other creatures don't fit the mold either, and are gazed upon as, well, monsters. But, if Hades was in charge, then I'm willing to bet he would try and find a use for the cast outs. After all, in the underworld, he has Cerberus guarding the dead, Pain and Panic working as minions carrying out smaller jobs for the god, and the Fates, who are informants giving Hades accurate information. All of the characters above don't fit the status quo, and yet, Hades still relies on them to lend a hand and trusts they'll do their jobs. (They don't always, but at least they try.)

If I'm being honest here, I don't think that Hades isn't worthy of Olympus, I think Olympus isn't worthy of Hades. Because as far as we've seen, none of the gods even come close to doing something as important or as difficult as Hades.

The Olympus Tech Company And what it might be like

So, taken all this information about Olympus, what do we think the OTC is like?

The answer is a garbage company.

Its probably just like any mega corporation that hires underpaid workers who work in poor conditions while the higher-ups do next to nothing, living a life of luxury while certain people below them are working hard to earn a living.

That's the basic gist of the company. They probably don't let anyone move up the ranks unless that person is appealing in some way. Basically if you fit their status quo, then you get a raise, maybe a better position. Who knows? Maybe they steal ideas from their lower employees. They don't actually care about any of them though.

And the stuff they program and produce is probably something like today's corporations would be able to produce. Their company is modern, but not advanced, though they probably think it's advanced compared to lesser companies. The type of technology their company produces is most likely the equivalent to our modern day tablets, phones, and computers. Just stamp a brand on it and OMG you've got the latest tech from the OTC. They probably also care about quantity over quality, meaning that they're willing to sell more of their products rather than products of good condition. Unless you wanna pay more for quality.

What about interns? What sort of treatment do they get?

Idia got an invitation to become an intern during his fourth year, and that's supposed to be a big deal, given how rare they are. But if we're right about the company being garbage, would they show that to interns? Probably not because that could cause a dent in their reputation. As for treatment of the interns, they would get treated well enough, definitely better than the factory workers who have been in the company way longer.

So comparing the OTC to Ignihyde, The OTC would definitely have more respect (which they do not deserve) and Ignihyde would be more advanced (but they're not too big on credit).

Olympus and OTC comparison

What do both places and people have in common?

Both have Lazy higher-ups who take all the credit

Both have a class in the company who don't fit the status quo

While the Olympians do nothing, the OTC's technology refects the higher-ups lazy attitudes

Both the highest don't care about the people below them

Both will use whatever means necessary to secure their reputation, wealthe, and possition

Hades and Idia comparison

Both do important jobs that they had no say in getting ( they didn't ask for this, guys)

Both feel left out, but have gotten used to it overtime

Both are good at finding shortcuts and making good use of resources

Both can change their strategy when the situation calls for it

Both don't fit the status quo

Both disapprove of the normal people ( Idia thinks they're just NPCs while Hades thinks the dead are boring)

Both hate people, and they both probably have bad blood within their families

So basically Idia's reaction if he ever got to see the OTC up close? He'd either nope the heck outa there, or if he ever took the opportunity and made it big in the company, he'd turn it on it's head and completely reform it.

OTC vs Ignihyde

So what kinda conflict is gonna strike between these two very different places?

Well, to start off, I wasn't sure what kind of conflict would strike out between an NRC dorm and an entire company. So, again I looked at Hercules and picked out the first big enemy. So, let's look at the threat at the beginning of the movie, the Titans.

I said they would be important somehow, and at first, I wasn't sure. I tried thinking of something that could fit as a titanic threat. Maybe an unstable invention, a nuclear weapon, or perhaps a powerful discovered Magical artifact? All things considered, no matter what is was, it was going to be imprisoned by the CEO of the Olympus Tech Company for not just safety reasons, but for research purposes. The problem was coming up with what exactly.

And then, the realization hit me with the force of Ares's chariot.

Ortho Shroud is based off of the Titans from the movie.

Yes, yes, I know. Outrageous claim. But there is a lot of evidence to support this Theory.

Firstly, the Titans were seen as huge primal monsters causing endless natural disasters such as hurricanes, volcanoes, and earthquakes. They were left unchecked until Zeus imprisoned them all.

Taking a look at Ortho, we've seen time and time again that he's capable of causing mass destruction as well. His archetype gear fired a powerful beam of magic that destroyed a tree, his star gazer gear is capable of punching through storm clouds (which, btw are huge) tearing up the sports field in the process, and he almost leveled the entire college during the Ghost marriage event. And these are only a handful of times we've seen him ready to use violence and destruction as the solution to the problems at hand. Basically, Idia is good at designing destructive weapons, and Ortho's outfits are perfect examples of this. Not to mention there was more than one Titan and Ortho has several different outfits each one capable of causing a different kind of mass destruction.

The next, and probably the most important tie these two groups have in common is this: lightning.

Zeus imprisoned the Titans with his thunderbolts, and they hold a grudge against him because of it. They don't like lightning.

Well, guess what? Ortho doesn't like lightning either. Now, we don't know exactly why. There a number of different reasons, and here are a few guesses:

Lightning killed the original Ortho

He can malfunction due to a lightning strike

It's a part of the Shroud family curse

He thinks its annoying

We still don't know exactly why, but a distaste for lighting is a definite connection.

And what happened to the Titans? They were imprisoned by Zeus.

And what do you think's gonna happen to Ortho in the next chapter?

Once the OTC finds out the truth about Ortho, and that he's actually a robot, they're gonna want answers. Why is your brother a robot? How did he manage to build something like this? It's just an AI, right?

And when they see how much damage Ortho can cause, the head of the company is going to want him contained. So the base of conflict between dorm and company? It's not just Ortho that's at stake, but the entire dorm. The OTC may be a bigger deal than Ignihyde, but the dorm is probably centuries ahead of any tech company. In a previous post, I listed off a few things I wanted to see as Ignihyde's unique feature. One of the things that I mentioned is a data archive. If the dorm has a library for all their knowledge, which probably contains lots of info for magical technically, then who wouldn't say that could be of some value to the Olympus Tech Company?

I wouldn't be surprised if the OTC took some of it's inspiration from the actual disney company in america because those guys are basically known for taking something, rewriting and rebranding it, then claiming all the credit for whatever they did. It would make perfect sense to have the company based off of the real life company who it's owned by. The whole Hercules movie was written by two people who highlighted disney's flaws of merchandising and branding and threw those into the movie. A subtle but realistic joke about Hercules's popularity and how it's used by the company.

The OTC and their possible ties to RSA

Now, it's not just going to be The Olympus Tech Company vs Ignihyde this chapter, we've still got RSA to worry about. Throwing an entire school towards an entire dorm would be a little unfair, so the rest of NRC would definitely be involved with the annual school vs school Magift tournament.

I've already covered the possibility of RSA cheating for a century in a row. I'm holding on to that theory because if these bozos win without some kinda godly trump card or rule violation and just because they're the perfect players from the perfect hero school, I'm gonna burn that prep academy to the ground, sow the ground with salt, and throw the ashes of the school into a volcano! I'll take great pleasure watching that volcano erupt, destroying the remains of that blasted, stupid institution once and for all!

Alright, you get the point. Making a perfect academy would be the worst thing you can do.

But what if it's not just the Magift tournament? What if they were cheating at the VDC as well?

How could they though? It's decided by a majority vote which is done in real time by the people. How could they tamper with the people's votes?

They messed with the voting system. And the OTC were sponsoring that, right? The Olympus tech company is responsible for NRC losing again. Now, I'm not saying that they convinced more people to vote for RSA, I'm saying they actually messed with the numbers. And since they sponsored the system, all those votes were completely at their mercy. They could've made some invalid, deleted a few, and in the end the results were the same. RSA came out on top.

But do you notice how close the match was? By just one vote. I think that originally, NRC was ahead by a few, so the OTC cut some votes off from the original winners to make it look like it was a close game, but RSA was victorious.

I think Neige's supporters were in on the secret. They knew the game was rigged in their favor, and they knew they would win. Did you really think that they were just reassuring Neige just to make him feel more confident? They were stating the fact. They were definitely in on it.

Now the question: why would the OTC go up against NRC? Why help RSA win?

There are at least two possibilities as to why. But both depends on a certain factor, the character based off of Hercules himself.

Possiblity #1: Vil Schoenheit is also based off of Hercules

Both have a similar pasts (minus the godly background) but both do have a father in a higher possition.

Vil is going up against Idia in the next chapter. The chapter might have an important element of heros and villains. And we may see where Vil tries to play the role of the hero.

So, what does this have to do with the OTC?

The Olympus tech company's reason for cheating would be in this case that they were bribed by RSA. They tampered with the voting for money.

Very dirty of them, but because of corporate greed? Why not?

Possiblity#2: there is a new character who fills the base and the role of Hercules

This one is probably the more likely one, as it would not only give us a chance to meet more RSA students, but also the head CEO of the OTC.

In this case, the CEO would be based off of Zeus, and he would have a son based off of Hercules. The Hercules character would attend RSA, and maybe have a few friends who are based off of Hercules's friends (Random thing where he's gay for Twisted!Megera, but that's just a joke.) Basically, it would follow the equivalence rule about the hero and villain counterparts. After all, Hades went up against Hercules, not Zeus. Having Idia and Twisted!Hercules competing in Magift against each other would make the most sense.

Now this would be where the OTC motive for rigging the voting system come in. Twisted!Zeus is the head of the OTC, and his son attends one of the academies with a representative from that same academy. It would make RSA look bad for losing, the same academy his son attends. Why not push the votes in RSA'a favor to ensure that the students of the academy keep their flawless reputations?

Of course, it's possible for it to be a combination of both possibilities.

And if the OTC is sponsoring the score boards for the Magift tournament, who's to say they won't do the same thing again?

But, there's something they never considered about this year's Magift tournament.

Tipping the scales

RSA students most likely have been taught to work together. This is a good thing for them. They've been taught how to function as a unit, how to help each other through hardships, and to come out victorious together. This is all fine, and I'm willing to bet that the teachers at RSA have taught this lesson to the students as a traditional one. It's always been there. And it's known for this tradition

NRC students have always been asked the question: what do you want? They persue their own goals and dreams, rarely working with others to come out on top. And when they do work together, it's usually on conditions. Crowley's probably been at the college since the start, and has not just taught the students to not rely on anyone but themselves, but also the harsh cruel reality of the world: Happy endings don't just happen on their own. You need to work for them. The students don't rely on each other, and never have.

Both academies's greatest strengths is the others greatest weakness. RSA's weakness is it's students falling apart and being separated. NRC's weakness is the students working together with no motivation, because they aren't used to working with people they hate, it's constant fighting among themselves.

But that system is about to be broken by one person: MC

MC has been teaching the students to work together and establish friendships with each other. Through the NRC students misadventures, MC has been teaching them to overcome hatred and ban together. So now, not only are the NRC students capable of working as strong individuals, but they can now function as a unit as well.

This eliminates the system of strength and weakness because now, RSA has the weakness of not being able to function as individuals. Not all students suffer from this, but most would. But the ability to work with others as well as by yourself would give NRC the advantage in a fair game. But if we count the fact that RSA has the cheats and support, this game was never ment to be fair.

So to sum it all up:

The OTC is a company full of jerks

Ortho is based off of the Titans and needs to be protected at all costs

Ignihyde must protect their entire dorm from the dark crime of plagiarism

The OTC may be helping RSA cheat due to bribery and/or family connections

We can't trust anything sponsored by the OTC

And MC is going to help our bois destroy the competition

Or, again I could be horribly wrong.

Thanks for reading!!! And....

Before i official end the post, I'd like to say two quick things. The first is a mini Theory regarding the release date for Chapter 6. It could either be with the chapters story line time in late May, or the sixth chapter is released on the sixth day of the sixth month, or more specifically, June 6.

Secondly, thank you for 50 followers!!! Even though I don't spend all of my time on tumblr, it's a great comfort to me knowing someone does read what I write ( even though most of it seems outrageous and incredibly farfetched.) You all mean the world to me! Thanks!!!

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Incorrect twst quote

The Octavinelle trio and the Shrouds are all playing a board game on Azul's bed.

Floyd: I'm gonna jump off the bed!:D

Azul: Floyd, you'll destroy the...

Idia: I'm gonna jump off a cliff.

Floyd:...

Azul:...

Jade:...

Ortho: Niisan, no!

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I think he's related to the Shrouds by blood in some way. Several of his characteristics just seem to coincidental to ignore, like:

His last name is Spade, which could also be another word for a shovel. And you need a shovel to dig a grave.

He's good with smaller electronics and machines. (Malleus's lab coat story)

And Deuce's name refers to the number 2, but also he seems to have two personalities: delinquent and reserved. Idia and Ortho are like opposites in terms of personality, so what if the blood line of the Shrouds has this thing with opposite personalities? This would support your theory about Idia giving up half of his personality to Ortho. What if Idia was like Deuce at some point? Like really social and friendly towards others, but behind closed doors, he regrets some of the things he said and did? So with Ortho's death and rebuilding, Idia severed his personality giving Ortho his social and friendly half while Idia kept his introverted half.

I have regrets about things I could've done differently, so that could be another thing with their family, regrets. Deuce had regrets too. He regrets his delinquent side and the bad choices he's made.

Goodnight 😑zzz

Short Twisted Wonderland Theory: Why My Gut Feelings Say Something's Up With Deuce

His name litterally means death

His hand on the hips in his uniform clothes, ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BLOTTED DO THAT

Cauldron

His room hasn't been shown (I think)

He doesn't smile in the CMs and Ops

Similar to Idia... In a way with magic

But his personality is more of Ortho (maybe something with the Shroud family)

Where is the dad?

Gemini (does he have siblings?)

We know Deuce's name when we first meet (maybe a slight rememberence?)

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A/N:

I like Deuce better than Ace :)

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15 Things the First Years Have Done

The first years, all combined together as a big group, have done the most chaotic stuff in the history in NRC. In the Headmaster’s desk, is a list of what the One Braincell Group has done. (In which little to no context is given)

As First Years of NRC, we pledge to not,

1. Throw Grim into the Savannaclaw pool. Or anyone, for that matter.

“How did you even manage to throw Leona into the pool?”

“Pure spite.”

“He spoke condescendingly to Yuu, he had to go.”

“I don’t agree with what they did, Leona was being Leona. But it was pretty funny.”

2. Play “How Many People Can Accidentally be Collard by Riddle?”

“I think Epel won that.”

“15 people.”

“Could’ve been 20 if Vil didn’t catch you.”

3. Test Yuu’s magic resistance

“How resistant are you, anyways?”

“I think Sebek’s lighting spell knocked them out.”

“Oh yeah, that hurt a lot. How many volts was that?”

“Volts?”

“Oh, we are going to test how many volts Sebek’s spell has later.”

4. Beat up your seniors

“To be fair, they dumped a bucket of water on Ace.”

“Wait - that was them?”

“Wait we weren’t supposed to say that-“

“It’s fine Ace, we took care of them, didn’t we?” :)

“Didn’t you and Deuce put them in the infirmary?”

“Didn’t they stop dumping water on Ace? Yes? So what’s the problem?”

5. Make vague threats that involve Malleus Draconia.

“Now that’s unfair, those threats were facts!”

“I still can not believe you manage to get Waka-sama’s favor.”

“Well, I’m his friend, of course he likes me.”

6. Start a food fight in Mostro Lounge, and then blame it on Floyd.

“But he did start it!”

“No, he really did. We just escalated it.”

“Haha, I remember hitting him with an apple. It was satisfying to see the smirk wiped off his face.” :)

7. Kidnap Ortho Shroud for the 50th time.

“Did Idia add that one? Because we technically didn’t kidnap Ortho.”

“It’s been, what? A week since we’ve invited Ortho over? We should invite him again.”

“Also it’s been 57 times we’ve taken Ortho, this list should be more accurate.”

8. Steal armor and weapons from Diasomnia, have Jack transform into a wolf, and “raid” Kalim’s treasure room.

“Pfft, remember the terror in everyone’s eyes? Hilarious.”

“I remember when I rode Jack like a steed, wielding Grim like a flamethrower.”

“Ah, to bad Jamil used Snake Whisper on us and kicked us out.”

9. Steal potions from Pomfiore and drink them from the bottle, competing against each other for “poison tolerance”.

“Ok, not our best idea.”

“Yeah that was deserved. Though Sebek won that one, didn’t he?”

“Fae are naturally strong against poisons! Besides, I must be resilient to them in case someone tries to poison Waka-sama’s food!”

10. Scream out song lyrics at 5 in the morning.

“I can’t believe we managed to do that.”

“Agreed. Especially since how far Ramshackle is from the other dorms.”

“Ah, the magic of the magic mirrors.”

11. Let Deuce “duke it out” on people harassing you. Tell a teacher.

“But asking a teacher is so repetitive. Besides, if Deuce beats them up they’ll never bother us again, unlike having a teacher lecture them.”

“Yeah, plus bad boy Deuce is h o t.”

“H-huh?!”

“Ew, gross. Stop being horny.”

12. Paint the roses Pink, Maroon, Wine Red, Carmine, Red Violet, OR ANY OTHER RED COLOR VARIANT THAT IS NOT A TRUE RED

“But we did follow the rules. It’s just that we ran out of traditional red paint.”

“Pffft, Riddle’s face turned as red as the roses when he saw what we did.”

“Ugggh, my only regret was that we did it before an Unbirthday party. He made us paint it an hour before.”

13. Sneak into Mostro Lounge, only to ask Jade if he has “the goods”

“It’s not my fault they assumed we were talking about drugs.”

“Yeah, I wanted to try out some of the wild mushrooms he found. I heard the wild plants around here are good.”

“Blegh, I can’t believe you dragged us into that. I don’t even like mushrooms.”

14. Mix your powers together. No, we do not want a repeat of the FIRE THUNDERSTORM INCIDENT.

“Hey! That was a complete accident.”

“No it wasn’t. You started it. You were egging on Grim and Sebek.”

“It’s not my fault that they attacked me.”

“Stupid human! You were the one to fan our magic!”

15. Stop creating plots that damage the school’s reputation.

“Ok, we have had a few scandals, but it’s not as bad as the dorm leader’s.”

“...”

“...”

“...”

“...”

“...”

“Ok, we may have done worse. But those were fixed before they got into the public!”

We have read the rules, and we agree to never do these things again.

Signed,

Ace Trappola

Deuce Spade

Jack Howl

Epel Felmier

Sebek Zigvolt

Yuu MC

(...Fingers Crossed...)

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Reblogging this to anyone who hasn't read the first chapter of the Twisted Wonderland manga yet! Enjoy! 😊

Heh heh... He got hit by a horse.🤭🤭

Disney Twisted Wonderland - The comic - Chapter #1

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