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sartorialadventure · 18 minutes ago
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Naeem Khan, resort 2015
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sartorialadventure · 2 hours ago
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A pair of knights come riding up to the tiltyard
They lift their lances... and toss them aside.
Then they pull out... tiny cannons on a sick.
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A cast iron Handgonne,
OaL: 39 in/99 cm
Barrel Length: 17.3 in/44 cm
Diameter: 5.1 in/13 cm
Germany, early 15th century, housed at the Germanisches Nationalmuseum.
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sartorialadventure · 6 hours ago
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Female Sets of Armour
Armstreet on Etsy
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sartorialadventure · 6 hours ago
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Tights and Leggings
Fox Savant on Etsy
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sartorialadventure · 6 hours ago
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kelp-kelp replied:
I meant the avavav shoes
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What. the fuck. lolol
I actually meant fashions people genuinely wear on the streets, not art fashions that haute couturiers come up with that basically nobody wears... but I cannot argue that these are definitely original! lol
emayas-born-to-troll-history wrote:
those big-ass periwigs men wore, late 1600s/early 1700s, with the two big horns o' hair? 😂
You’re actually describing two different trends here, but I think both of them could qualify for original! Men’s periwigs:
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And also the horned hairstyle, which was worn by Venetian courtesans and upperclass women:
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inthecompanyofabengaltiger wrote:
1630s super low necklines? maybe too recent but dior's new look?
Well, I’m not sure super low necklines were all that new? they just lowered the earlier renaissance neckline a bit.
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^Flanders, 1635
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^Italian, 1530
inkyami wrote
@inthecompanyofabengaltiger New Look is new in the century's context. The general idea of exaggerated hourglass was a trend on many many occasions before.
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I love how well they melded the New Look with 18th century fashion for Outlander!
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vinceaddams
17th century men! So many different silhouettes and most of them were Weird.
Mm. I’m not sure. I mean, this look, from the 1610s is just a variation on the earlier 16th century look:
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And you can just really watch the silhouette change slightly for the newer trends:
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^1620s
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^1630s
I would have kept going, but... uh... then I ran across THIS one....
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^ Sebastiano Bombelli (Italian, 1635-1719). Duke Maximilian Philipp of Bavaria (1638-1705), 1666. Oil on canvas; 212 x 130 cm. Dresden: Old Masters Gallery, Inv.No. Mon 638. Source: SKD
Looks like he raided his wife’s rag-bag...
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^ Fig. 12 - Romeyn de Hooghe (Dutch, 1645-1708). A nobleman with an African, sheet 3 from the series "Figures a la mode", 17th century. Etched paper; 16.2 x 11.8 cm. Vienna: Museum of Applied Arts, KI 1967-3. Source: MAK
Good lord. Okay, you win.
samnites
The Minoans are really the only women with dresses like that for their time. Egyptians and Mycenaean, their closest trading partners and important cultural contacts, did not have this trend for upperclass women.
It’s true, but what about the Minoan/Cretan women who came BEFORE them? We don’t have evidence for them. It looks original to us because we don’t have the evidence of previous costume iterations in their culture. It might well be original; but afaik we can’t really know that? I’m using “original” to mean, “Something that really wasn’t done before”, and when we get back to the earliest recorded fashions, we literally can’t know whether they were original.
One thing I wonder about (and I do not have the info for this) is where later cultures got that same neckline cut from? (admittedly this painting is a piece of orientalism, so maybe western painters made it up, I don’t know):
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I’m trying to think of time periods in which people did something genuinely original with fashion. Here’s what I got so far:
–late medieval/early Renaissance: codpieces
–1830s hair (altho… i suppose some of it is basically recreations of some Roman hairstyles? thoughts?)
–1920s women’s straight cut clothing and drop waists, and hemlines higher than been in centuries
Additions? deletions? discussions?
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sartorialadventure · 6 hours ago
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Moschino, fall 2021 RTW
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sartorialadventure · 7 hours ago
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Ruth Bell by Sebastian Kim for Harper’s Bazaar US June/July 2019
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sartorialadventure · 21 hours ago
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samnites replied:
minoan crete (3500 - 1000 BCE). the fashion for the upper class/aristocratic women was to leave the breasts bare.
I mean, it’s not original to let women have bare breasts--that’s been very normal in many cultures around the world throughout human history--but I agree, the particular cut for Minoan dresses is very different. (Of course, we don’t really know the cultural context for Minoan clothing? Because we don’t know what the clothing of earlier cultures in that region was like?)
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moggett replied:
Bobbed hair. Centuries ( even millennia of long hair)
Yeah, I thought about this one, and of course, I thought of the 1920s. But there had been short hair for women in the Regency, too? So maybe the women’s short hair in the Regency was the more original fashion trend?
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kelp-kelp replied:
You know those horrible frog shoes?
Do you mean medieval box-toed shoes? 
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Or do you mean, like,
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notapaladin
I always love Classic Maya (0-800 AD) headdresses. big feathers, lots of jade/turquoise/coral (sadly mesoamerican civilizations didn't really do tailoring much, but there was some gorgeous featherwork.)
I think the question there is the same as with the Minoans: was this actually ORIGINAL for them, or were these fashions similar to others in their historical/cultural context?
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I’m trying to think of time periods in which people did something genuinely original with fashion. Here’s what I got so far:
–late medieval/early Renaissance: codpieces
–1830s hair (altho… i suppose some of it is basically recreations of some Roman hairstyles? thoughts?)
–1920s women’s straight cut clothing and drop waists, and hemlines higher than been in centuries
Additions? deletions? discussions?
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sartorialadventure · 21 hours ago
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David Koma | Spring/Summer 2022
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sartorialadventure · 21 hours ago
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Dinner dress made in 1878 by Parisian couturier Émile Pingat
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sartorialadventure · 21 hours ago
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Custom Corsets
French Meadows on Etsy
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sartorialadventure · a day ago
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Ochirjantsan Bold for Torgo (click to enlarge)
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sartorialadventure · a day ago
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Minna Fashion
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sartorialadventure · a day ago
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I’m trying to think of time periods in which people did something genuinely original with fashion. Here’s what I got so far:
--late medieval/early Renaissance: codpieces
--1830s hair (altho... i suppose some of it is basically recreations of some Roman hairstyles? thoughts?)
--1920s women’s straight cut clothing and drop waists, and hemlines higher than been in centuries
Additions? deletions? discussions?
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sartorialadventure · a day ago
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1835 Auguste Alexis Canzi - Portrait of a lady in an elegant dress
(Dorotheum Auctions)
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sartorialadventure · a day ago
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Orlando (1992) + costumes
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