#''WHY ARE WE STILL YELLING''

[sunderwight]

Thinking about the weird camaraderie that exists between demons but not angels in GO.

Have we ever seen two angels who are actually friends? Or even friendly to one another? We have met angels with a capacity to be friendly in general, but I think the closest we've come to two angels actually getting along would be Gabriel making a point to laugh at Sandalphon's terrible "can't have a war without War" line in S1.

Most scenes between the angels actually seem to have an undercurrent of absolute hostility. Teeth-clenched teamwork. No wonder it took them so long to notice that Aziraphale wasn't on the same page as the rest of them! The rest of them are barely on the same page as one another, either! When Gabriel goes against the majority vote, no one bats an eye at demoting him and wiping his memory. Michael and Uriel immediately begin vying for his job. The only times we've seen angels team up is when they're working together to bully someone else, like when they're trying to intimidate Aziraphale in S1 or going to the aftermath of the bookshop raid in S2.

Saraqael's overall neutrality towards Muriel is the closest we get to two angels in Heaven getting along, and it's more a lack of hostility than any kind of friendliness. At least until Gabriel loses his memories and Muriel shows up to spy on Aziraphale, and Aziraphale decides to be kind to both of them.

Demons, on the other hand, actually seem to form alliances and even friendships among one another. Hastur and Ligur are awful, but Hastur seems genuinely distraught over Ligur's death, not just fearful of suffering the same fate. Shax and Furfur conspire together and even though the 1940's investigation into Crowley's fraternizing doesn't work out for Furfur, it's not due to any double-crossing on Shax's part. Unlike the angels, who stick almost exclusively to making threats until the Metatron decides to try dangling a carrot at the end of the season, demons actually offer rewards to other demons when trying to work together. Beelzebub offers Crowley a promotion if he can bring them Gabriel, Furfur offers to back Shax up politically if she goes for the Duke position opening, and Crowley successfully stalls Hastur in S1 by pretending everything was a test and he's going to be put in charge of a legion as a reward for passing. They're still not great at socializing, but they're significantly ahead of the angels.

Of course, it's a fact that demons are awful to one another (Eric's treatment is really bad, they throw that random demon into holy water just to test it, "it'd be a funny world if demons went around trusting one another", etc) but they still seem more capable of forming friendships than the angels do.

I think that's because Hell cramps and crowds everyone together to try and increase their suffering and hostility, whereas Heaven isolates angels to decrease the odds of questioning or rebellion. Hell's methods are unpleasant, but it still ends up putting demons together, and some of those demons inevitably forge alliances and make friendships. Because as Crowley and Beelzebub demonstrate, demons are still social creatures with the capacity for love and affection, even if it's strongly discouraged and buried under nine million layers of trauma and a cultural mandate against kindness.

Angels are the same, but isolation makes is harder to form connections than overcrowding. Muriel and Jimbriel are both so eager to make friends, but Muriel's spent the past millennia shut in an empty office, and Gabriel has been distanced from his peers both through his position and also through Heaven's culture of fear and surveillance. He only breaks away from it when he finds something that's stronger than "choosing sides" (stronger than the fear of being rejected by Heaven and Falling, in fact strong enough that Falling seems worth it if he gets to be with someone he loves). Both Muriel and Gabriel are only able to start forming connections when they're away from Heaven.

I just think it's interesting that demons, despite being supposedly devoid of love, have an advantage in forming relationships compared to angels. Angels are supposed to love, but have far fewer opportunities to actually do so. Demons aren't supposed to love, but they make connections anyway.

#good omens #ineffable bureaucracy #both angels and demons are suckers for a bit of kindness too #even if they pretend otherwise and even if there are exceptions to the rule #like yeah you're probably not gonna win over the likes of hastur or michael with a nicety #but according to word of god furfur would be highly susceptible to a kind word #and well we see how it is with muriel and jim #i think this is why shax also weirdly toes the line between getting crowley destroyed and being almost-friends with him #that's just how it works in hell when you don't actually despise somebody #you can't be nice to them but you're still also kind of helpful and non-hostile a lot #don't let it interfere with your goals but sure deliver their mail and get their help with your boiler issues why not #maggie took the wrong approach to confronting the demons #if she'd been nice instead of telling them off they wouldn't have known how to handle it i bet #they're USED to being mocked and yelled at #should have given them jim's tray of canapes and offered them tea and stuff #not that I expect anyone to intuit that under the circumstances just that it might have actually held them off a lot longer #bunch of demons sitting outside of a bookshop passing around a tray of tiny little dinners and listening to records playing from inside

[egophiliac]

Okay now i gotta know... As someone who only plays on English server but craves every bit of info on chapter 7....

What's the spoon scene? You mentiond it in the Sebek UM poster post.

no pressure tho, I'm just curious

oh, it's a little flashback scene to Silver and Sebek's first magic lesson (moving a spoon) -- it's one of the missable ones, so there's nothing plot-important in it, I just thought that one was really extra cute! 💚 Lilia does such a bad job of explaining how to use magic ("you go, like, SHWOO") that Malleus steps in and teaches them instead. so it's basically just Silver and Sebek staring intently (and audibly) at a spoon while Lilia flails around making noises and Malleus reminisces about how Lilia's teaching style has always been fascinatingly incomprehensible! pure sugary domestic fluff! just rubbing it in how absolutely terrible things have gotten :)

there are a bunch of cute flashbacks like that in the 7-81 and 7-83 maps; it's definitely worth getting them all if you are also fond of the diafam! I swear, this update has somehow managed to make me even more obsessed with this idiot dad and his three adopted dingbats and that should not have been possible.

#twisted wonderland #twisted wonderland spoilers #twisted wonderland episode 7 spoilers #twisted wonderland book 7 spoilers #like little silver and sebek's first meeting and silver being all 'totosama why is this kid i met ten seconds ago yelling at me :(' #some things never change #GOD and the one where revaan saved lilia's nrc application for him has been living rent-free in my brain #we still know basically nothing about mal's dad but that one made me suddenly really like him #it's a nice little show-not-tell moment! a little gesture that says a lot! #i think lilia's feelings were unrequited but meleanor and revaan still really loved him! #i will NOT shut up about them you can't make me #if i can't slowly melt into a puddle over fictional characters then why am i even on tumblr

[dootznbootz]

I'm happy that the "Helen is of Sparta, not Troy" post is getting seen and people are giving love to her as they should but I'm getting a wee bit frustrated by the Menelaus inclusion with the whole "She was a possession to others and never had a choice".

Yes, Helen is a victim of fate and multiple horrible circumstances. She gets kidnapped by Theseus and Paris. So much blame is being put on her when she really isn't at fault and doesn't have much choice.

A choice she made though? WAS MENELAUS!

The Oath of Tyndareus was all about how "If you want to have a chance of marrying her, you have to swear to respect her and her choice and defend their marriage if it's needed".

If anything, Menelaus was her "prize"! Not the other way around!!! And they are clearly shown caring for one another!!! uyfuygluhyutfugy

#we technically don't know EXACTLY why she chose him but that doesn't matter with this. She still chose him. #She picked the goofy guy!!! :D She picked the silly sealy guy!!!🦭 #Menelaus: Hello! I'm Helen's Husband🥰 #Not people erasing women's agency even when it's explicitly stated. #Mad rambles #shot by odysseus #menelaus #helen of sparta #helen x menelaus #tagamemnon #greek mythology #fuck it. I'll use normal tags. I'm getting sad about this. More for Helen. #She didn't have a choice all the time but the time we KNOW she did and people will act like she didn't. #That's not even going into her yelling at Aphrodite and Paris and her knocking on the side of the horse! #this is very semi-unserious btw. I'm talking about the Sealy boy. That's clearly for the silly.

[anachronistic-falsehood]

i think we as a society peaked when every fandom was makin their own lil steven universe fusions of different characters. that shit slaps. personally i think we should go back 2 that. i wanna see a vashwood fusion. c!crimeboys fusion. just fucken. take ur two fav characters and turn them into one. the possibilities r endless <3

#whiskey yelling into the void #why can't we go back 2 that it was so so so cool!!!! #takin the components of two characters and squishing them into one and figuring out how their personalities and looks would mesh #it was awesome!!! lets do that again!!!! i rarely see character fusions anymore and they were so fucking awesome!!!! #monster high did that IN CANON and it was the coolest shit ever did u SEE the fashion dolls for that line?? i still have clawvenus

[faalthien]

I wish you a year full of good omens!

#art #fanart #traditional art #acrylic #happy new year!! #happy new year 2023 #Wtf how did we end up here it was 2012 the day before yesterday #Good omens #crowley #anthony j crowley #Aziraphale #ineffable spouses #ineffable husbands #I forgot the word ineffable a week ago and just stared into the void for some time #faalthien #This painting is tradition by now #It's still not very good tho XD #My excuse is the pain and the lack of sleep #HERE IS TO A BETTER WORLD #I'm not even drunk why am I yelling

[moeblob]

Deacon loves two things: Ymber and digging himself a grave.

Fulj hates one thing: Deacon.

#my characters #waiting on some info on the next commission so i indulged in ocs today bc i doubt i will have as much time for lil comics for a bit #deacon is so devoted hes like yeah i would kill for a deity that could easily kill anything himself but yknow teehee #and fulj just did you tell him you needed therapy also does he even know youd murder in his name #deacon caught red handed haha no of course i havent told him it should be obvious enough haha.... and its in his defense not his name :c #man really does have some issues but i love him so much and hes so devoted but like. unhealthily after a while #he does in fact need a chill pill and therapy but to be fair #ymber has needed therapy for centuries and yet he just bottles it all up and suffers so #its pretty unhealthy until they yell at each other one (1) time bc they are so insecure about things and get mad over very valid reasons #but then theyre like you know what that was necessary and i still want to stay by your side if you let me #and then fulj is like dude hey sorry you seem really happy did you fu- and ymber is like no please stop there we have not #fulj just squinting cause have not is very different than will not but whatever she doesnt wanna think about that with deacon involved ew #and eventually fulj is like hey ymber im sorry to say but i really do hate deacon and i dont even know why but he makes me uncomfortable #while deacon is just. in the room. hearing this and thinking how he knows she thinks hes weird but wow that wording hurts #and ymber doesnt wanna fill in memories better forgotten by fulj which she had forcefully removed #so he just says oh well his hair and clothing are black and you had someone in the past that you might see in him and its not a pleasant en #so you know maybe its that idk #and fulj is then WHATST i was rude to him for someone i cant even remember? lame im gonna try SO HARD to be nice to him now #and deacon just still sitting there with some food like this is v awkward and i wish i could not be here for it #and later he asks ymber about who he resembled and as ymber is descibing her it clicks in deacons head and he gets really sad #that he might somehow remind fulj of the woman she loved before she was punished for loving a mortal #and he feels kinda bad pestering her so much with his curiosities about deities and he kinda gets it #the fact hes close to ymber might remind her at the core that she was once that close with a mortal if not closer #anyway story time in the tags again #im so obsessed with these peeps and i have made them suffer so much but they do all end on a happy note #its still funny and nice to me that while fulj is creeped out by deacon and doesnt like talking to him #he still expresses the most emotions to her - he tries hard to remain serious around ymber and collected and obedient at all times #and when out and about with ymber he has to be intimidating and refuses smiling but fulj?? all sunshine and smiles and emotions easy to rea #and she is just that is so weird go away i hate you

[whydoifeelthisquiet]

1️⃣3️⃣

#abby doesnt shut up #being a swiftie rn is incredibly conflicting #like I have all this love for someone who is dating someone with so much hate for ppl like me & ppl I love #and we’ve been waiting so long for this tour #and cool things are happening #and then he’s there and taylor supports him #so how do u even have fun anymore #then you feel shitty for going to tour at all even though it’s your dream #and you think about how all of her promises and morals have flown out the window #then you’re like oh great this is my only safe space and I’m mad but cannot leave #and then I love her #and then she doesn’t speak out #and then she’s pictured with that monster #then I want to protect her from the tiktokers stalking her #then I’m sad again #and I say this just being disabled. I cannot imagine how other marginalized swifties feel. #so please just be gentle with everyone rn. this is not cut & dry and ppl are allowed to feel multiple things at once. #if I see you yelling at marginalized fans for going to tour it’s ON SIGHT. they shouldn’t have to bear this burden and lead the way by - #-giving up their tickets. we all still love her and that’s why we’re angry.

[54prowl]

more female villains?

god forbid women commit manslaughter?

you can't even handle Makima's existence what do you mean 'be gay do crime' huh??

#ooc #annoying!!! #if that was a handsome dude you all would have acted differently admit it #makima is a terrifyingly well written villain*** #'prowl it's been months why are you still onto this?' lack of catharsis obviously #you just hate her bc she's a woman #we are at the age where we can't like characters who aren't morally good and clean i guess #i am honestly upset at how the fandom reacted to makima...it is unbelievable #you like geto you like dabi you like whoever the fuck fucky wucky little gremlin villain man #but you draw the line at women i guess #''but grooming'' above mentioned have done worse......and good to note that they're all fictional too btw...just...just a quick btw.... #but ok we draw the line there ok ok ok ok ok #discourse #tagging so i dont get yelled at

[aitadjcrazytimes]

ok so to summarize

emotional vulnerability and honesty is occurring in the djcrazytimes disaster polycule and i hve no fucking clue what to do about it/am not sure i like it

#post #like do i lean into it??????? #that would be the healthy thing to do #wouldnt it #wouldnt it. #hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh #we are all in cahoots and aware of the relationship #c and i are still talking we started yelling and now are in our separate rooms bc t told us to shut up #conversatoins are being had over text #why cant we just fuck about it jesus this is hard #bow chicka bow w-/shot

[annoyinglyloudcat]

#lego monkie kid #six eared macaque #macaque lmk #its 6am #im so tired #i still don't know what i'm doing #silly goober #my cat is yelling at me #he won't leave me alone #hehe silly #shadow wizard money gang #we love casting spells #emo guy #hes so cool #i love him #why he ourple #monkie kid macaque

[sad-trash-hobo]

Thinking about the time I wanted to show my friend my favorite episode of puppet history after talking about it for months with her and trying to get her to watch it and I showed her the Great Molasses Flood and was laughing through the whole thing cause I love that episode and at the end she said "it would've been better if I was drunk" and I went. ok. And then she proceeded to make me watch like 5 of those old rap battles between either historical figures or fictional characters and she kept saying, isn't this so funny, these are so smart and great, they don't make videos like this anymore, and I had to sit there and say wow, and yeah, and that's pretty funny, as if she didn't just shit on my favorite episode from one of my favorite pieces of art, and then force me to watch rap battles with characters from movies I've never seen

#fr i was so bummed and disappointed #we watched so many rap battles #youtube #puppet history #the great molasses flood #the great molasses flood of 1919 #shane madej #and i told her about shane madej and i was like. hes great. i think hes super talented #and she went. buzzfeed guy kinda lame #this is also the same person that turned my music down in the car and then blares her music and yells over it so she can still hear it #rap battles #youtube rap battles #she was like. you gotta watch the rest of them and i said maybe. i will not be watching them #why is it ok for people to shit on my interests and then expect praise for their shitty interests? #watcher #watcher entertainment

[spursthatjinglejanglejingle]

Girl okay not only was it extremely racist to have Jacob's actor cut his hair but in what fucking world. In what galaxy. In what possible combination of the atoms that make up our universe does this not look better than his short hair. I'm a misogynist now because of Stephany Mayer what is wrong with you.

#I'm so pissed genuinely #i know i ranted about this in two different discord servers but i still needed to yell more i feel cheated #AND HE DIDNT WANT TO DO IT. IT WAS AN ACT OF RACISM. WHY WOULD YOU FORCE HIM TO DO IT??? WE ARE IN THE WORST TIMELINE. #🪼 #twilight is so fucking racist you guys were not kidding the trive they were based on didn't even get ROYALTIES??? WHAT????? #i feel bad fhat i watched part of the first movie now i need to donate to the tribe now to clense my sins

[youssefguedira]

started object pronouns

#yelling at entire italian language WHY are you LIKE THAT #it's fine. it's fine. it's fine. #we started ne today (only in the sense of ne compro due chili etc but STILL) #neon has thoughts #Sigh. oh well

[rapha-reads]

Just so y'all know, I finished Till The End Of The Moon, I'm now going to need 5 to 10 business days to outwardly recover and pretend again I'm normal. Meanwhile inside I will be crying about this drama for, oh, anywhere from a year to the next story that burrows itself deep in my soul.

I am deeply unwell about this drama, I swear. Y'all gotta watch it.

(Actual depiction of me trying to type through the tears)

(Tantai Jin I'm free on Monday if you wanna hang out. Come hang out.)

#till the end of the moon #tteotm #the last 3 episodes are just. i'm. please gods why whyyyyyyyyyy. #and then the last 3 minutes i was silently crying and yelling #i need a minute #or like. a week. #rapha talks #rapha watches shows #oh also hell yeah for ye qingyu still being alive and being the badass king of jing! we love to see a badass good boy win

[todayisafridaynight]

That prev anon was right about calling you mine people always talk about how Mine is so horny for daigo when in reality he probably shuts down at the thought of holding daigos hand it’s too much for him!

Hes so real for that tbh like i get it ……. I really do …….

#snap chats #its about respect and not wanting to overstep but still feel like youre going to explode on the inside thinking of him #i get it king …. stay pining ….. #its why thinking of daigo being the one to pursue mine makes me yell fiPWZNJ #main man mine tryna just be at a respectful difference and then daigo just makes full strides to him like Hi :) #it makes me kick my feet and wanna open google doc … cause i cant DRAW THIS WEEKEND 😭😭😭😭 #stupid computer …. at least it’ll be fixed by monday hopefully but still ….. i wanna be a fanatic NEOW #ig since i cant work i can just. type on my phone. even if it makes me wanna throw up but we ball #bitch omg the shinsengumi showed up in the movie im watchin for class … hey nerds …. #ok im gonna day dream for the next hour maybe ill write something down later

[dungeons-and-dragon-age]

oughh......

#laya plays dragon age #da2 #oc: liam hawke #this happened a bit ago already & i wanted to draw sth for it but idk if i will finish that #but i gotta yell abt them anyway because OGH. #i have a lot of emotions about this quest ok #bartrand was the perfect scapegoat he was perfect to direct all the rage and pain at all these years #years of imagining gleeful revenge while bartrand is gloating and laughing like an evil soulless bastard #and then you meet him and he is just. a pathetic husk of a man with barely any own will left #and whats worse. varric is so so torn up about it #varric. the guy who never makes anything about him and who will always handwave and joke when something hits too close to home #drops all efforts to be smart and is just. desperate. begs hawke to not kill his brother #and liam wants to want bartrand dead so bad. he wishes he could look him in the eye and enjoy taking his life #and he knows varric will listen to him if he insisted. he knows when it comes down it it varric will yield to his decision #but he sees this broken guy who is barely the villain he kept projecting onto him and he sees varric and he sees two doomed siblings #and knows what its like to lose your sibling to your own blade #and he cant do it #and he hates it so much. but he wont do it. #and its the reason why i cant decide who dealt the killing blow for bethany bc it makes this scene juicy in different ways #if varric kills bethy its equally wanting to spare each other their siblings blood on their hands #as it is taking some form of revenge (on liams part). we both killed each others siblings. now we are even #the revenge part would still be there if liam did the blow on bethany himself. you made me do that and now i will take bartrand for it #but its also much more i know what its like. i wont make go through that too #if varric killed bethy and then also bartrand it would be more #''its my fault she is dead. i will take the revenge she/you deserves if you tell me to even though it will hurt me #dunno. all good variations i will. have to rotate them in my head more #or maybe just never decide idk they can be in canon limbo forever #anyways thats it for shouting into the void about them for now it Will happen again