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How U.S. Navy Pilots Really Get Their Callsigns
A Super Hornet pilot gives us an inside look at how Naval Aviators get their often colorful but unflattering callsigns.
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PUBLISHED Aug 23, 2023 1:26 PM EDT
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U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Felix Garza Jr.
Let’s reminisce about fighter pilot callsigns and how they come about.
I’ll start with mine: 'The Professor,' eventually shortened to 'Prof.'
How I got it: First port call as a new guy in the squadron, we pull into Hong Kong. Everybody always chipped into buying the fanciest penthouse in a big name hotel - think 30 guys and gals crashing on the floor.
(Courtesy of the author)
Someone was always tagged as the 'admin queen.' This individual was required to stay sober and be the adult in the room in case anything went awry and had to talk to the hotel staff.
I pulled Admin Queen duty the second night.
2am, all my compatriots are out on the town. Looking around, I noticed everybody was gone.
So, like anyone would, I change the music from rap to Beethoven and pull out my American History of Law book to pass the time.
Bad move.
An older squadronmate bursts in, tipsy, and sees me.
"What do we have here? It's the Professor at work!"
It was the leading contender at the callsign review board the next week that took place aboard ship.
Let's pause a bit and talk about the 'rules' for callsigns.
It's rumored that Air Force fighter jocks get to pick their own callsigns... which is where you get things like 'Ripper' and 'Ace' and 'Thor.'
Not in the Navy.
"Professor" and his wife Jamie in front of an F/A-18. (Courtesy of the author)
Callsigns are bequeathed for doing something stupid or memorable. The more you fight the more it sticks.
Usually a new guy in a squadron is given something like 'FNG' (Fucking New Guy) or 'New Jack' or 'Don't Speak.'
Eventually, someone does something noteworthy, and the King (or Queen) of the JOPA [Junior Officer Protection Agency] calls a kangaroo court known as a 'callsign review board.'
Everybody can propose a name. There are lots of nominations. Many are absurd and vile.
Eventually, a few finalists are named. They're voted on and by acclimation a callsign is bestowed.
The commanding officer then gets veto authority - and sometimes exercises it. In which case you go back to the white board.
I also had another callsign before my 'official' one.
Before going to the carrier for the first time before we qualify for our wings of gold, we'd all get a temporary callsign through a similar, abridged process.
Mine was 'Stink.' Let's just say I wouldn't always wash my flight suits after a flight in the middle of a Meridian Mississippi summer.
They were pungent.
That one stuck until I got to my first fleet squadron, which is when I got Professor.
(Courtesy of the author)
Now the fun part... other call signs that were part of the 2008-2013 era of Naval Aviation.
'LOTHAR' - Loser Of The American Revolution
I'm pretty sure the guy is still in the Royal Navy and probably a squadron commander by now.
When he was a new pilot, he was the first Brit to get assigned to a front line, American F/A-18 squadron.
He took it well as only a Brit would.
'Chaser'
This was my first fleet commanding officer. He was a grizzled old dude who originally started his aviation days as an F-14 backseater.
But before that, he was an enlisted sailor with the 'HT' rate... Hull Tech. He was one of the guys who would make sure the plumbing worked.
They were known as "shit chasers" aboard ship.
It stuck when he became an officer.
'SLUGZ'
Short Little Ugly Guy.
He actually wasn't all that short. SLUGZ was one of my first mentors in the squadron who saw me through tough first days trying to figure out carrier landings.
But the name fit the personality.
'PETA'
He was department head when I joined my first squadron.
Rumor was that on one of his first flights in the F-14, on the landing rollout he hit a deer!
Deer died.
Plane was fine.
Callsign was obvious.
Mouth, Tiny, Powder and Probes adorn VFA-102 Super Hornets on deck. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Stephen W. Rowe)
'Soccer Mom'
This was my brother's first call sign.
In flight school he had this old green station wagon while his brethren were rolling around in their fancy sports cars.
'Amtrak'
Member of our squadron was an absolute train wreck when drunk.
'Bar Code'
Literally, we painted a barcode on the side of the jet.
Verbally we called him 'R2' since he behaved like a robot. But we thought the barcode was too good to pass up.
'TAKAN'
Talks A Lot, Knows Absolutely Nothing.
This was a play on the navigational aids military aviators used to use when flying across the country.
'Wiki'
The source of all dubious knowledge.
Dude would have an answer for everything... in detail. But he was the father of misinformation before it was cool.
'Delilah'
This is one of my favorite callsign stories because I'm a total nerd.
After pulling into port in Singapore, we were out at the bar.
The commanding officer of the USS Sampson, a battle group destroyer, happened to wander in.
He starts hitting on a squadron mate of mine - a very outgoing woman who was also very junior to him.
Fortunately we were able to extricate her from the situation with nothing lost but pride on the part of Sampson's CO, but she was tagged with "Delilah" after almost bringing down the skipper of the Sampson.
'SANDY'
Skipper And Nasty Did it Yesterday.
Remember Chaser? Well, whenever the commanding officer of the USS Nimitz, callsign 'Nasty,' wanted to go flying, Chaser would fly in his backseat. We were the only two seat squadron on the boat.
Nasty would do ridiculous flybys. I'm talking high speed (near supersonic), barely above the height of the flight deck, feel the shockwave of the jet on the flight deck flybys. He was the master of the ship.
My buddy SANDY was a brand new pilot and thought it would be cool if he tried the same thing.
Not a good idea.
His excuse was literally "But Skipper and Nasty did it yesterday!"
He was grounded for a few days... and got a callsign.
'Steamer'
Buddy's last name was Cleveland.
Best part about this story is that as we were pulling into port to San Diego after a month at sea, the local news station wanted to do a story about us.
I was dual-hatting as the squadron public affairs officer at the time, so they tell me to do the interview.
The camera crew sets up in hangar with some jets behind me... and the one they ask me to stand in front of has 'LT XYZ "Steamer" Cleveland' written in big bold letters in clear view of the camera shot.
They rolled with it and broadcasted it out to SoCal.
Gonzo and Buff on this F/A-18F. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Nicholas B. Morton)
'Tweek'
Dude would go high and right over the smallest thing. He was the target of a lot of ribbing just to see how angry we could get him.
'Farva'
Had a number of guys with this one - especially around the time Super Troopers came out.
'Boom Boom'
My brother had this one temporarily - in C-2 training, he landed and blew BOTH tires on the rollout.
'Jerry'
Marine fighter pilot - and one of the most impressive aviation leaders I've ever met - had a proclivity for older ladies ("geriatric") in his formative days.
'Tofu'
Pudgy, white guy. He owned it.
'Sweet P'
One of our missions in the Super Hornet was to be the on-demand, airborne tanker for the air wing.
You'd launch off the ship then rendezvous with the offgoing tanker to do a "package check" of the refueling tank and hose.
If there was good gas flow, it was a "sweet" tanker, and if there was a problem, it was a "sour" tanker.
On one of his first flights, this gentleman reported back on the open ship frequency "Sweet package, sweet package."
With our minds always in the gutter, 'Sweet P' was the obvious choice.
'Radio'
Guy got to the fleet around the time the movie Radio came out. Not exactly sure what he did... but it wasn't smart.
He became a test pilot and is now in the Astronaut program.
'Shortney'
Callsign for the four-star admiral I worked for - last name was Gortney and he stood no more than 5' 6" tall.
At least when I worked for him he was a great sport about it
'Satan'
One of my air wing commander had this callsign for the longest time. I think people were scared to tell the story. He was an intense dude, but took a quiet liking to me.
The reason I knew he liked me was whenever he saw me, he would body-check me into the walls of the carrier as we passed.
Apparently he only did that to folks that were on his good side.
I think he's a three-star admiral now.
'Don't Ask' & 'Don't Tell'
We had a pair of new squadronmates come aboard - one was a pilot, the other a weapons systems officer. When the callsign crackdown happened in 2011, we thought we could slip one past the goalie by giving those two guys matching call signs that would be painted next to each other on the jet.
Those were quickly vetoed.
(Courtesy of the author)
Lots of other good ones:
'Rabbit,' 'Heed,' 'Mouth,' 'Gimp,' 'Waldo,' 'Cholula,' 'Sasha'... and some others I'm too timid to share in public.
Never had a Maverick though...
This piece was adapted from a Twitter thread by Ben Kohlmann. Ben flew F/A-18s with VFA-41 and VMFAT-101, serving on active duty as a Naval officer from 2004-2015. He currently serves in the USNR and spends his professional time in Venture Capital as an early-stage defense tech investor.
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"Yeah, I F***ed That Up," With Author-Actor Jill Kargman Released
Irish author Oscar Wilde once said, "Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes." After all, no one makes it through life mistake-free.
And that's the premise of Interval Presents, Warner Music Group’s in-house podcast network, Yeah, I F*cked That Up, which challenges the stigma of failure as the podcast highlights stories of defeat from prominent figures in the entertainment industry.
The interview series premiered July 11 with featured guests Kelly Rowland and Steven Van Zandt.
I've listened to every episode and with no need for a spoiler alert, I can tell you that the episodes are so fresh and elegant in their narrative about "what I've would have different."
The maestro here is the podcast's host is Grammy-nominated hitmaker Billy Mann, who has produced and written songs for some of the world’s most well-known musicians over the course of his 25+ year career.
This week’s new episode of Interval Presents’ ‘Yeah, I F***ed That Up,’ with Jill Kargman, who is is an American author, writer and actress, based in New York City's Upper East Side. A common theme in her works is critical examination of the lives of wealthy women in her city. Her 2007 Momzillas was adapted into the Bravo television show Odd Mom Out, which premiered June 8, 2015.
In this episode, host Billy Mann talks with Jill Kargman as they discuss her career and series of past relationships, along with the importance of staying true to yourself and following your gut.
Check out a clip from the episode HERE.
Episode Highlights:
● 10:20 - Billy asks what the Jill Kargman-ingredients would be for a f***-up.
● 12:10 - Jill shares her most public failure, which was her show not getting picked up at NBC.
● 16:05 - Jill discusses her series of past relationships, including two canceled engagements before she met her husband.
● 21:45 - Jill talks about her struggles after her last broken-off relationship.
○ Jill Kargman - “I feel like whatever success you have personally, if family and your personal life is important to you...for me, I was just as ambitious about getting married and starting a family as I was about being a writer and I felt like I was off-course and that I ruined my life.”
● 23:50 - Jill chats about her essay "A Letter To My Crappy One Bedroom," and how in this first apartment living on her own, she really came together as a person and was able to solidify who she was.
● 29:50 - Billy asks what advice Jill would give someone when things go bad.
○ Jill Kargman - “I would say this is specific to women and your daughters and my daughters. But I feel like societally, people always say that women strike from the heart and there’s always emotion. And then now, women can have kick a** jobs and be CEOs, and so our brains are now ratified as well. But I still think that gut and intuition is a male realm, that somehow men are allowed to trust their gut more. And I think that women have to trust their guts. I think somehow there’s something in our wiring or historically where you’re like, pros and cons chart and my heart feels this way and my brain feels this way. But sometimes your gut is the thing that’s rogue, and you have to listen to it.”
● 33:45 - Jill shares the advice she would give to people who have no filter.
○ Jill Kargman - “I think you have to know a time and a place. Like, I’m not disrespectful to elders. I’m not, I’m always a lady at the table. You know, I feel like even though my appearance might not seem terribly mannered, I actually have good manners. I think manners show that you care about people, and I’m trying to raise kids with good manners. However, I do curse and I do express myself. But I feel like if you have no filter, you have to wait for the right time and read the room.”
Check out ‘Yeah, I F***ed That Up,’ and maybe you'll reflect on your own life mistakes.
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Portrait of Ibrahim I's daughters/I. Ibrahim lányainak portréja
Gevherhan Sultan
Ibrahim's children started to be born in 1642, the exact order not always obvious. His first son Mehmed IV was born in January 1642, his mother Turhan Hatice was given the rank of first Haseki. The second Haseki was Hatice Muazzez, although her son followed the third Haseki's (Saliha Dilaşub) son, about a year later. This suggest that Muazzez may have given birth to a girl in 1642 between January and April. Gevherhan Sultan was born in 1642, but we do not know the exact month. Anyway, on the basis of the indirect information, we cannot rule out that Gevherhan's mother was Hatice Muazzez.
Gevherhan was married as a child to Cafer Pasha on November 23, 1646, but the wedding was only nominal. Some say it wasn't even this princess who was given to Cafer Pasha as a wife. Gevherhan’s marriages are surrounded by general chaos. Her husbands were Çavuşzade Mehmed Pasha and Helvacı Yusuf Pasha, but the dates are completely chaotic. Her first husband was Çavuşzade Mehmed Pasa, whom she married in 1647 (or 1653). Her next marriage with Helvacı Yusuf Pasha took place either in 1692 or as early as 1652.
We don’t know much about Gevherhan’s life, which is well illustrated by her marriages also. According to some, in 1672, along with several members of the harem, she also accompanied her brother Mehmed IV to his campaign. During her life she accumulated a huge debt, in which she was helped by Ahmed II's Haseki - the last Haseki - Rabia Sultan. At least that's what a post-death harem register suggests.
Gevherhan's health began to deteriorate gradually in 1693, and in the autumn of 1694, she died in Edirne. From there, her body was transported to the capital and eventually buried in the Şehzade Mosque complex.
Fatma Sultan
Fatma was born in September 1642, which makes it abundantly clear that her mother was not Turhan Hatice. Turhan gave birth to her son in January 1642, so it was mathematically impossible for her to gave birth to a healthy, viable child in September of the same year. Fatma was raised by Ibrahim I’s sister, Burnaz Atike Sultan, with the help of Turhan Hatice, suggesting that her mother passed away shortly after giving birth.
Her first marriage took place in 1645, Musahip (Silahdar) Yusuf Pasha was the husband, but the marriage proved short-lived because Ibrahim executed the man in January 1646. Barely a month later, Ibrahim remarried her, this time to Musahib Fazlı Pasha, who was also expelled a few months later.
Fatma died in 1657 and was buried in Turhan Hatice's complex. After her death, Turhan did a lot of charity on her behalf and organized prayers for her soul. Many therefore assume that Fatma was the daughter of Turhan, but this is utterly impossible if she was actually born in September 1642.
Beyhan Sultan
Beyhan was born in 1645. Some believe Turhan Hatice was her mother, but that’s not certain. The relationship between Turhan and Ibrahim has so far seriously deteriorated, so it does not seem logical that a child would be born into the relationship in that year. True that Ibrahim was famous for his illogical actions... Furthermore, it makes unlikely that Turhan would be her mother, that Ibrahim handed Beyhan to one of his favorites, the wife of Hazerpare Ahmed Pasha, to be raised. This suggests that Beyhan’s mother was already dead or fell out of Ibrahim’s favor and was exiled.
Beyhan was married in 1646 to Küçük Hasan Pasha, who died the following year. Her new husband was chosen in 1647. This time she married Hezarpare Şehri Ahmed Pasha, whose former wife became Ibrahim's favourite. In exchange for his ex-wife, Ibrahim offered one of his daughters. This covenant did not prove to be long-lived either, as the pasha was executed in 1648, and Beyhan was widowed for the third time at just 3 years old. Her next husband was Uzun Ibrahim Pasa, presumably, he was the first classic husband of the sultana. They lived together until 1683 when the pasha died. Beyhan lived as a widow for a few years, but in 1689 she was remarried to Bıyıklı Mustafa Pasha, with whom they lived together for ten years. Some say she her only child, Sultanazde Hüseyin Bey, was born from her second or third marriage; others say she had no children at all.
In 1672, Beyhan along with her sister, Gevherhan, and several other members of the harem accompanied her brother, Mehmed IV to his campaign. Based on this, we can assume that she was close to the sultan. In September 1700, Beyhan died and was buried in the tomb of Suleiman I. Others say she died in March 1701, during Ramadan.
Atike Sultan
The date of birth is unknown. She was probably the child of Turhan Hatice, for according to contemporary sources, Atike was Mehmed IV's own (full) sister. In addition, her name clearly refers to this also. Turhan Hatice was raised by Ibrahim's sister, Burnaz Atike, and then was gifted to Ibrahim by her. The two women maintained a close relationship for the rest of their lives. That is why it makes sense for Turhan to name her daughter after Atike. Assuming that the relationship between Ibrahim and Turhan was indeed troubled around 1645, Atike may have been born before that.
There are many question marks about Atike’s marriages. She may was confused with her aunt, Burnaz Atike in some cases. She had her first marriage in 1648 and married Sarı Kenan Pasha. The pasha was alive until 1659, so it is possible that it was not only a nominal marriage but over time it became a real marriage. After the death of the pasha, she married Mostarlı İsmail Pasha in 1659.
Not knowing exactly when Atike died, all we know is that she died at a young age, during her brother, Mehmed IV's reign.
Ayşe Sultan
Ayşe was born around 1646, the identity of her mother is unknown. Her first marriage took place late (compared to her sisters), in 1655. Her husband Ibşir Mustafa Pasha died in the same year. We don't know when Ayşe died.
Kaya Sultan
Neither the date of her birth nor the time of her death are known. She was married to Haydarağazade Mehmed Pasha in 1649. Her husband died in 1661, but since Ayşe was not remarried after that, it is possible that she died during their marriage.
Ümmügülsüm Sultan
The date of birth is unknown. The only thing we know about her is that in 1653 she was married to Mirahur Abaza Ahmed Pasha and shortly after the marriage the sultana passed away. So she died as a young child.
Two anonymous sultanas
One of the sultans is said to have been born in 1640, but that date is strange, given Ibrahim’s attitude to sexual intercourse. She married a man named Baki Bey, who was the son of Grand Vizier Hezarpare Ahmed Pasha. By the way, Hazerpare Ahmed Pasha married another daughter of Ibrahim, Beyhan. Baki Bey's supposed mother - Hazerpare Ahmed Pasa's first wife - was Ibrahim's favorite and governess of Beyhan Sultan.
The other anonymous sultana was to marry Kuloğlu Mustafa Pasha, but the man rejected the covenant. Thus, in January 1666, Cerrah Kasım Pasha finally became the husband of the anonymous sultana. It is not known when she was born and when she died, all that is certain is that in 1666 she was still alive.
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Gevherhan Sultan
Ibrahim gyermekei 1642-ben kezdtek el születni, a pontos sorrend nem minden esetben nyilvánvaló. Első fia IV. Mehmed 1642 januárjában született, édesanyja Turhan Hatice kapta meg az első Haszeki rangot. A második Haszeki Hatice Muazzez volt, pedig fia nagyjából egy évvel később követte a harmadik Haszeki, Saliha Dilaşub fiának születését. Ez arra utalhat, hogy Muazzez talán életet adott egy leánynak 1642-ben január és április között. Gevherhan szultána 1642-ben született, ám hónap nem áll rendelkezésünkre. Mindenesetre a közvetett információk alapján nem zárhatjuk ki, hogy Gevherhan édesanyja Hatice Muazzez volt.
Gevherhant már gyermekkorában férjhez adták 1646 november 23-án Cafer Pasához, ám a nász csak névleges volt. Egyesek szerint nem is ő volt a hercegnő, akit Cafer Pasához adtak nőül. Gevherhan házasságait általános káosz övezi. Férjei között listázzák Çavuşzade Mehmed Pasát és Helvacı Yusuf Pasát, azonban a dátumok teljesen kaotikusak. Első férje Çavuşzade Mehmed Pasa volt, akihez talán 1647-ben (vagy 1653-ban) ment hozzá. Következő házasságára, Helvacı Yusuf Pasával vagy 1692-ben került sor, vagy már 1652-ben.
Gevherhan életéről nem tudunk sokat, ami házasságaiból is jól kirajzolódik. Egyesek szerint 1672-ben a hárem több tagjával együtt ő is elkísérte bátyját IV. Mehmedet annak hadjáratára. Élete során hatalmas adósságot halmozott fel, melyben II. Ahmed Haszekije - az utolsó Haszeki - Rabia szultána segítette ki. Legalábbis erre utal egy halála utáni hárem bejegyzés.
Gevherhan egészsége 1693-ban fokozatosan romlani kezdett, majd 1694. őszén Edirnében hunyt el. Innen a fővárosba szállították testét és végül a Şehzade mecset komplexumban temették el.
Fatma Sultan
Fatma 1642 szeptemberében született, ami teljesen egyértelművé teszi, hogy édesanyja nem Turhan Hatice volt. Turhan ugyanis 1642 januárjában adott életet fiának, IV. Mehmednek, így matematikailag lehetetlen, hogy ugyanezen év szeptemberében életet adott volna egy egészséges, életképes gyermeknek. Fatmát I. Ibrahim nővére, Burnaz Atike szultána nevelte fel Turhan Hatice segítségével, ami arra utal, hogy édesanyja nemsokkal a szülés után elhunyt.
Első házasságára 1645-ben került sor, Musahip (Silahdar) Yusuf Pasa volt a férj, a házasság azonban rövidéletűnek bizonyult, mert Ibrahim 1646 januárjában kivégeztette a férfit. Alig egy hónappal később Ibrahim újból férjhez adta, ezúttal Musahib Fazlı Pasa volt a férj, aki azonban szintén néhány hónappal később menesztve lett.
Fatma 1657-ben halt meg és Turhan Hatice komplexumában temették el. Halála után Turhan rengeteget jótékonykodott nevében és lelkiüdvéért hosszasan mondatott imákat. Sokan emiatt feltételezik, hogy Fatma Turhan lánya volt, ám ez teljességgel lehetetlen, ha valóban 1642 szeptemberében született.
Beyhan Sultan
Beyhan 1645-ben született. Egyesek úgy vélik Turhan Hatice volt az édesanyja, ám ez nem biztos. Turhan és Ibrahim kapcsolata eddigre már komolyan megromlott, így nem tűnik logikusnak, hogy közös gyermekük született volna. Tény azonban, hogy Ibrahim nem logikus cselekedeteiről volt híres. Tovább valószínűsítleníti, hogy Turhan lenne az anyja, az, hogy Ibrahim Beyhant átadta egyik kegyeltjének, Hazerpare Ahmed Pasa feleségének, hogy ő nevelje. Ez arra utal, hogy Beyhan édesanyja nem élt vagy kiesett Ibrahim kegyeiből és száműzték.
Beyhant 1646-ben adták férjhez, Küçük Hasan Pasához, aki következő évben elhunyt. Új férjét 1647-ben jelölték ki számára, ekkor ment feleségül Hezarpare Şehri Ahmed Pasához, akinek korábbi feleségét Ibrahim saját kegyeltjévé tette. A volt feleségért cserébe pedig Ibrahim felajánlotta egyik lányát. Ez a frigy sem bizonyult hosszú életűnek, ugyanis a pasát 1648-ben kivégezték, Beyhan pedig alig 3 évesen harmadjára özvegyült meg. Következő férje Uzun Ibrahim Pasa volt, feltehetőleg ő volt az első klasszikus férje a szultánának. 1683-ig éltek együtt, mikoris a pasa elhalálozott. Beyhan néhány évig özvegyként élt, ám 1689-ben újból férjhez adták Bıyıklı Mustafa Pasához, akivel tíz évig éltek együtt. Házasságaiból egyesek szerint egyetlen fia született, Sultanazde Hüseyin Bey, mások szerint egyáltalán nem született gyermeke.
Beyhan 1672-ben testvérével, Gevherhannal és a hárem több tagjával együtt elkísérte IV. Mehmedet hadjáratra. Ez alapján feltételezhetjük, hogy közel állt a szultánhoz. 1700 szeptemberében Beyhan elhunyt és I. Szulejmán türbéjében temették el. Mások szerint a szultána 1701 márciusában, a Ramadán alatt halt meg.
Atike Sultan
Születési ideje nem ismert. Valószínűleg Turhan Hatice gyermeke volt, ugyanis a korabeli források szerint Atike IV. Mehmed édestestvére volt. Emellett a neve is egyértelműen erre utal. Turhan Haticét, Ibrahim nővére, Burnaz Atike nevelte majd ajándékozta Ibrahimnak és élete végéig szoros kapcsolatot ápolt egymással a két nő. Épp emiatt logikus, hogy Turhan, lányát Atike után nevezze el. Ha feltételezzük, hogy Ibrahim és Turhan kapcsolata valóban megszakadt 1645 környékén, Atike valószínűleg ez előtt születhetett.
Atike házasságaival kapcsolatban sok a kérdőjel. Előfordulhat, hogy nagynénjével, Burnaz Atikével keverik össze bizonyos esetekben. Első házasságát 1648-ban kötötte, Sarı Kenan Pasához ment hozzá. A pasa 1659-ig életben volt, így lehetséges, hogy ez nem csak névleges házasság volt, hanem idővel valódi házasság lett belőle. A pasa halála után Mostarlı İsmail Pasához ment nőül 1659-ben.
Nem tudni, hogy Atike pontosan mikor hunyt el, csak annyit tudunk, hogy fiatalon, bátyja, IV. Mehmed uralkodása alatt halt meg.
Ayşe Sultan
Ayşe 1646 körül született, édesanyja kiléte nem ismert. Első házasságára testvéreihez képest későn, 1655-ben került sor. A férj Ibşir Mustafa Pasa ugyanabban az évben elhalálozott. Nem tudjuk, hogy Ayşe mikor halt meg.
Kaya Sultan
Sem születési ideje, sem halálának ideje nem ismert. Haydarağazade Mehmed Pasához adták férjhez 1649-ben. A férje 1661-ben halt meg, ám mivel ezután Ayşe nem lett újra kiházasítva lehetséges, hogy házasságuk során hunyt el.
Ümmügülsüm Sultan
Születési ideje nem ismert. Az egyetlen amit tudunk róla, hogy 1653-ban hozzáadták Mirahur Abaza Ahmed Pasához és nemsokkal a házasságkötés után a szultána elhunyt.
Két névtelen szultána
Az egyik szultánáról azt állítják, hogy 1640-ben született, ám ez a dátum furcsa, ismerve Ibrahim szexhez való hozzáállását. A szultána egy Baki Bey nevű férfihoz ment hozzá, aki a nagyvezír Hezarpare Ahmed Pasa fia volt. Hazerpare Ahmed Pasa mellesleg Ibrahim egy másik lányát vette nőül. Baki Bey feltételezett anyja - Hazerpare Ahmed Pasa első felesége - pedig Ibrahim kegyence volt és Beyhan szultána nevelője.
A másik névtelen szultánát Kuloğlu Mustafa Pasához akarták feleségül adni, ám a férfi elutasította a frigyet. Így végül 1666 januárjában Cerrah Kasım Pasa lett a névtelen szultána férje. Nem tudni, hogy mikor született és mikor halt meg a szultána, csak annyi bizonyos, hogy 1666-ban még életben volt.
Felhasznált források: A. D. Alderson - The Structure of the Ottoman Dynasty; L. Peirce - The Imperial Harem: Women and Sovereignty in the Ottoman Empire; N. Sakaoğlu - Bu Mülkün Kadın Sultanları; M. Ç. Uluçay - Padişahların Kadınları ve Kızları; C. Finkel - Osman's Dream: The Story of the Ottoman Empire; G. Börekçi - Factions and favourites at the courts of Sultan Ahmed I (r. 1603-17) and his immediate predecessors; S. Faroqhi - The Ottoman Empire and the World; C. Imber - The Ottoman Empire 1300-1650; G. Piterberg - An Ottoman Tragedy, History and Historiography at Play; F. Suraiya - The Cambridge History of Turkey, The Later Ottoman Empire, 1603–1839; Howard - A History of the Ottoman Empire; Öztuna - Devletler ve Hanedanlar; F. Davis - The Palace of Topkapi in Istanbul; Y. Öztuna - Genç Osman ve IV. Murad; G. Junne - The black eunuchs of the Ottoman Empire; R. Dankoff - An Ottoman Mentality: The World of Evliya Çelebi; R. Murphey - ‘The Functioning of the Ottoman Army under Murad IV (1623–1639/1032–1049):Key to Understanding of the Relationship Between Center and Periphery; M. Özgüleş - The women who built the Ottoman Empire: Female Patronage and the Architectural Legacy of Gülnüş Sultan
#ibrahim I#Turhan Hatice Sultan#hatice muazzez#gevherhan#beyhan#fatma#atike#burnaz atike#ümmügülsüm#kaya#ayse
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i was tagged by @collectoroflovelythings, thank you!!
1. name/nickname: farren or sam! hazard is one of my (many) nicknames though :)
2. gender: rock musician from like,,, the 70s to early 2000s. no i will not elaborate yes i will <3
3. star sign: sagittarius
4. height: ,,,do i have to?
5. time: 1:27
6. birthday: ;) (i googled it and apparently david bowie was nominated for an award for serious moonlight on my birthday [not in the same year though because it was in like. the 80s] and apparently i also share a birthday with les mis opening at the palace theatre!)
7. favorite bands/groups: queen, the amazing devil, bastille, bears in trees, nirvana*, mumford and sons, my chemical romance, pink floyd, waterparks, t. rex*(? i’m counting them), paramore*, the white stripes*, green day*, fleetwood mac*, fall out boy,,, and a handful of others but i can’t remember all their names right now
8. favorite solo artist: elton john, david bowie, marc bolan, bruce springsteen, zella day, s.j. tucker*, regina spektor*, hozier, stevie nicks*, and a handful of others, i just can’t remember all their names right now
(i’ve starred the ones i’m getting back into/haven’t heard as much of but enjoy what i have been able to listen to so far)
9. song stuck in my head: wish you were here (pink floyd)
10. last movie: diary of a wimpy kid movie (my sister wanted to watch it)
11. last show: schitt’s creek!
12: when did i create this blog: i honestly don’t remember? it’s been a while though
13. what do i post: no one’s quite sure yet. and tomorrow? the same (but also? quite a few cats.)
14. last thing googled: "elton john playing the piano while marc bolan sits in it and there’s a giant yellow toothbrush” (i couldn’t remember the name of this video.)
15. other blogs: so,,, many,,, if you ask about any of them i will 100% tell you but i don’t want to list them all out there’s. quite a bit.
16. do i get asks: depends!
17. why did i choose this url: it’s a lyric in this song (all dead, all dead by queen--the link takes you to the specific part it’s at)! while it’s hard for me to choose favorite queen songs, this one,,, is definitely one of them, because it also fits into the strange subgenre of “written for/about/to an animal”. also, the cat in the video reminds me of a stuffed animal that i had when i was younger (actually, i think i still have her? both were named nala--i really liked the lion king and was, apparently, already getting into elton john before i even knew who he was) that i named after the first cat i had :,) (and we’re not going to talk about other possible reasons why i’ve gotten attached to this song)
18. following: 598
19. followers: 506? roughly
20. average hours of sleep: haha,,,
21. lucky number: i don’t really have one?
22. instruments: okay so uh. gonna do these in linear order. so technically,,, i can sort of play the drums (i took lessons before we moved across the country), then i took up piano, then horn in f, then cello, then i kind of?? screwed around and figured out some stuff on the violin and viola (because of playing cello it wasn’t too hard, but i definitely don’t regularly play them), a bit of guitar (i’ve JUST recently gotten to playing chords. i’m working on it i promise), ukulele, working on accordion, kalimba, and bass guitar. because apparently, i can’t half-ass anything. on the bass guitar note: starting a band. help.
23. what am i wearing: earlier i had a very nice lavender/lilac? not 100% sure which shade. button up with my black waistcoat and some cargo pants (because i accidentally spilled tea on my nice pants!). right now i’m in a hoodie and some comfy pants because,,, it’s almost time to try to sleep
24: dream job: haha what do you mean the “future” “exists”
25: dream trip: i wanna go see the,,, titanic wreck site.
26. favorite food: food fails to stir a positive or negative emotion in me (bread. or macaroni.)
27. nationality: american :/
28. favorite song: i can give a whole list if that’s acceptable
29. last book read: Reading Hard but uhhhh i think either mercury and me or the hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy?
30. three fictional universes you’d like to live in: i automatically blanked on every fictional universe ever so. wonderland, an alternate universe that is vaguely adjacent to this one except that i get to be a time traveler solely so i can have the ability to go punch my father in the face when he was roughly twenty years old (and also throw popcorn at a handful of specific people. and maybe sneak into some concerts but mainly the first two reasons), and another alternate universe vaguely adjacent to this one except that we have somewhat domesticated bears so that they can be friends and i can hug them.
tagging @the-dapperest-of-simps @imadetheline @sister-simplice @cheshirecrime @blue-taco-soul-collector @long-live--the-lesbians @staringabyss @reallyraine @queer-crow-of-the-night @thatqueerchoirkid @tea-earl-grey-thot and anyone else who wants to!! i’m blanking on urls right now
#tag games#did i overshare? maybe. do i care? no. i'm tired and i've been listening to#children of the revolution on loop almost the entire time i've been doing this (on accident. but also... it's very good)#if anyone does want me to elaborate on the gender thing i am more than happy to but typing it all out right there... who knows how much long#er it would make this#anyways. thinking about Him (kurt cobain with pink hair)
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name: Pie
star sign: Sagittarius
height: 5′6″ - 5′7″
put your music on shuffle. what are the first 6 songs that popped up?
Build God, Then We’ll Talk - Panic! at the Disco
F*** You All The Time - Jeremih (Shlohmo Remix)
Artificial Nocturne - Metric
The Sharpest Lives - My Chemical Romance
Acquainted - The Weeknd
The Driver - Bastille
grab one book nearest to you and turn to page 23. what’s line 17?
“But the Subject consists of two nominal elements, either of which could be Subject on its own, with a third element (‘and’) linking them into a single complex unit.”
Introducing Functional Grammar, 3rd Edition - Geoff Thompson
ever had a poem or a song written about you? not seriously but as a joke yeah lol
when was the last time you played air guitar? probably last night; I like to pantomime when I lip sync to music
what’s a sound you hate; sound you love?
hate: high-pitched squeaky sounds, mouth sounds
love: soft fabric sounds
do you believe in ghosts ? umm not in a direct sense
how about aliens ? no
do you drive ? I can
if so, have you ever crashed ? no
what was the last book you read ? Burnout by Hayden Plunkett; currently reading Watching Glass Shatter by James J. Cudney (both I got for a limited free offer through the Kindle app)
what was the last movie you saw ? Magic Mike XXL lmao. I don’t recommend it but I do recommend the first Magic Mike bc there’s an actual story. I also watched The Last Skywalker on the plane but I fell asleep during it so I’ll have to watch it again!
what’s the worst injury you’ve ever had ? luckily for me, I don’t injure myself very much? worst I think was a sprained ankle that I got when my sandal slid underfoot on a very dusty hill, circa 2014.
do you have any obsessions right now ? that’s not Dragon Age...? not really.
do you tend to hold grudges against people who have done you wrong? I’d love to say no but that’s a lie. that said, it takes a lot of general “everything went wrong” for me to consistently hold a grudge, and the number of people who meet that criteria can be counted on one hand
in a relationship? married to the word of the Lord 🙏
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initial hadestown original broadway cast recording thoughts: woop this will be long bc i HAV so much
1. HOLY SH*T THE NEW PERSEPHONE VERSE! who’s doing the best she can? persephone! THATS WHO! i dont condone alcoholism but it definitely is a consequence of hades and persephone’s troubled marriage
2. um so whats up with seph introducing herself again in our lady of the underground
3. CMON GREEN THANG lmao hermes. the cast‘s reactions here is so cute uwu. i missed the slurping tho lmao for me it made livin it up on top tHAT song
4. seph and hermes taking orpheus parts in way down MAKES SENSE yall. im 100% on board. they know what happens in Hell and the mortals dont know shit
5. BRIAN DRYE ON THAT TROMBONE HOLY SH*T!
6. You’re early. I missed ya. F*CKING KILLS ME. EVERY SINGLE TIME
7. huh they really did skip to hey little songbird me for 0.005 seconds
8. PUTANGINA GAGO AJHSHJSHJASHSKH PATRICK PAGE!!!!!! HOW IS A GOD LIKE YOU ALLOWED TO WALK THIS EARTH???? HE KEEPS GETTING BETTER EVERY RECORDING IM IN TEARS I LOVE!!!!!
9. EVA’S where are you now, orpheusss?? GUYS I CANT STOP THE TEARS HOLY SH*T im always looking forward to this part bc it SHOWS so much about eurydice’s character and this productions’s portrayal of her relationship with orpheus
10. I FORGOT TO CLOSE MY MOUTH WTF IM STILL IN GOOSEBUMPS
11. WATCHU GON DO WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN??? NOOOOOOOW THAT THE CHIPS ARE DOWN? F*CKING LAY DOWN MY FACE FOR YOU TO STEP ON!!! these fates are so dang sassy I STAN
12. they sound so full and menacing SHOOT TO KILL indeed
13. eva my baby :((((((((( im gone’s gasp!!! I AM SO DEAD TOO
14. jewelle’s in her skiiiin growl and basically every line ender of this song SLAPS
15. wait for me’s opening notes!!!!! FOREVER FAV
16. mR. HERMES! really do radiate mr. sTaRK! energy
17. orpheus sings with all my heart. kill me the f*ck now
18. AT THIS POINT IM JUST SOBBING
19. who are youuu?? THE FATES REALLY PERSONIFY DOUBT™
20. ajdhasjdhashk you can hear when the set changes!
21. HERMES SINGING WITH ORPHEUS IN I AM NOT ALOOONE! F*CK I HADNT THOUGHT ID LOVE THIS SONG MORE BUT HERE WE GO
22. I’ve talked before how i prefer broadway’s wait for me over nytw’s. I STILL DO
23. THEY TOOK OUT EURYDICE’S SOLO IN WHY WE BUILD THE WALL????
24. in a way i do understand bc it singles out eurydice too much and at an outside vantage point it didnt really need to happen bc all the solo does is present eurydice’s thoughts at this point. IM STILL DISAPPOINTED THOUGH
25. asjdhfjkdh my dumbass only now realized that anything can happen on the factory floor when the foreman turns his back is about persephone’s illegal spring club lmao
26. anybody want a drink? NEVER fails to make me laugh
27. i love our lady of the underground and livin it up on top but didnt seph already introduce herself in livin? sounds redundant tbh
28. but it gets us amber aND I AM HERE FOR IT. I JUST LOVE HER OKAY
29. THIS MUSICAL NAMING EVERY SINGLE BAND MEMBER! I WILL LOVE FOREVER AND EVER! ALSO THE CAST REACTING IS SO CUTE AND SUPPORTIVE
30. BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOu wANT stAAARRRS????? I DIDNT KNOW IT COULD GET BETTER!
31. tell my husband to take his time hades’ infidelity confirmed :/
32. ITS FLOWERS! EVA MY BABY I LOVE YOU
33. oh no theres no growling, shes playing it softer than onstage????????
34. IM KINDA DISAPPOINTED LIKE 1% BC I LOVED THE GROWLING-REGRETFUL-ANGRY-AT-HERSELF EURYDICE SO MUCH
35. OOPS NEVERMIND HER youuUUUUU, the one who i left behind RESSURECTED ME
36. andre’s super soft road to hell intro :((((((((((((((((((((((((((( i BAWL
37. its a sad song, its a sad tale, iTS A TRAGEDY. its a sad song. bUT WE SING IT ANYWAY GODS ANAIS. This song perfectly captures hadestown’s mythical origins. I WILL LOVE FOREVER AND EVER
38. u can hear the cracking in andre’s voice in iTS A SAD SONGs and the cast! the harmonies! I STAN EVERY SINGLE ONE
39. we’re gonna sing it again and again always ALWAYS KILLS ME HOLY SHIT
40. OHMY GOD THAT WAS A WILD F*CKING RIDE lets play it again! (and again)
notice how they released the songs highlighting the four tony nominated cast members? bar wait for me, which is a CLASSIC fav. i mean i get it, even if we wanted reeve to be nominated and even if the cast wants to, MORE SO than we do i daresay, they had to make sure the nominated ones get as much exposure as they can
ALSO i really love the sentiment that hadestown’s many versions and iterations actually makes it SO TRUE to mythology. myths and stories gets passed down in yeARS and generations until we mix whats right or wrong and better or worse. somebody posted about this a long time ago im sorry i cant remember you :( but thats what makes it so beautiful!! YOU CANT JUST F*CKING DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT! we all have our preferences and no one’s is the same as the person beside them but its the same musical we all adore.
also im still laughing about this but i forgot to include it up top dANA LYN! on the vioLIN!! LMAO
#hadestown#hadestown obc recording#persephone's illegal spring club#rain speaks#rain's initial hadestown obcr thoughts
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Jonathan Groff is not, he says, “a serial killer sort of person”, which will probably come as a relief to the millions of adoring families who know him best in wholesome animated form, as the voice of mountain-dwelling ice harvester Kristoff in Disney’s Frozen.
What drew the 34-year-old actor – nominated for a Tony for his Broadway performance as Melchior Gabor in Spring Awakening and his scene-stealing turn as King George III in Hamilton – to the dark, murder-heavy Netflix drama Mindhunter was, he says, precisely what a radical departure it was from his previous roles.
His FBI profiler Holden Ford is, as he puts it: “This corn-fed, all-American, earnest Midwestern guy, having an existential crisis, finding meaning and purpose while talking to incarcerated sociopathic murderers.” Groff tells me all this, it should be noted, with an enormous grin. Apparently, the only major note that David Fincher, Mindhunter’s director, ever has for his leading man is to stop smiling so much. “[Fincher] would be like, ‘We’re rolling, and, Jonathan, stop smiling. And you’re still smiling, you’re still smiling, and… action.’”
Television, of course, hardly needs another FBI drama, but what elevates Mindhunter above the procedural is not only Fincher’s precision direction, but also the tension inherent in Ford’s mission. Set in the late Seventies and based on the career of real-life FBI profiler and “serial killer whisperer” John Douglas, “Holden is pushing for understanding and curiosity, rather than simply dismissing these killers as crazy,” says Groff. Using the emerging social sciences of criminology and psychology, he hopes to gain some understanding of what motivates these apparent monsters.
The first series saw Ford interviewing notorious murderers Richard Speck, Ed Kemper and Jerry Brudos; season two, which begins this week, will delve into the Atlanta Child Murders (in which an estimated 28 children were killed between 1979 and 1981), and see the protagonist land an interview with “the rock star of the serial killer world”, Charles Manson.
There is also the added layer of Ford’s personal development; over the first season, he grew from a buttoned-up boy scout (literally drinking milk from the bottle in an early episode) into a skilful manipulator of his subjects; some critics have gone further and accused him of sociopathy.
“I never saw Holden as a sociopathic character, but he definitely wants to win,” says Groff. I agree about the sociopathy but, I suggest, Holden is perhaps guilty of wielding empathy as a weapon. “Yeah, I love that – weaponising empathy!” Groff cries, excitedly. “That might be the title of my autobiography.”
It’s early on a Friday morning in Los Angeles and, in spite of the unusually anti-social call time, Groff, boyishly handsome and sipping on a Diet Coke, is infectiously bouncy and Tiggerish. During the filming of Mindhunter, he has, he tells me, been listening to the audiobook of Fosse, Sam Wasson’s bestselling biography of the legendary Broadway choreographer and film director, on which the current show Fosse/Verdon was initially based. After finishing the book, he went back and watched all of Fosse’s films.
“He does such a good job of capturing that drug of being on stage, and the sadness that you get when you come off stage,” he says. “The huge rush of performing and the let-down afterwards. I get both happy and depressed about it. I don’t want to love it this much, but then I do, but I want also to have perspective.” He waves his hands in the air as if to bat away his only apparent torture: loving this job, which he is incredibly good at, a little too much.
Groff grew up in Pennsylvania, in a conservative, Methodist family, but his parents encouraged his theatrical ambitions, driving him several hours each way to audition for musicals in New York City. He won a place in a touring performance of The Sound of Music and deferred his spot at Carnegie Mellon University. At 20, he was cast in Spring Awakening, earning his first Tony nomination at 21, in 2007.
Television roles followed in Glee, The Normal Heart and Looking, the critically acclaimed but short-lived HBO drama about the lives of gay men in San Francisco. His parents, he tells me, “didn’t watch that one”.
Openly gay himself, in Mindhunter Groff is playing straight, in a role that features a solid amount of sex scenes as well as psychosexual content. Ryan Murphy, his former showrunner at Glee, and the creator of Pose and The People vs OJ Simpson, was so moved to see this, Groff tells me, that he rang to congratulate him.
“He got really emotional about it, partly, I think, because when he first met me [Groff made a pilot with him during Spring Awakening, which was never picked up] I was still in the closet. Then I came out, owned my identity and, thankfully, still get to play all different kinds of parts. Ryan said: ‘I know that it was something you were scared about, but you worked through your fear, and now here you are, getting to do this amazing show, and not being defined by your sexual orientation.’”
Did he really worry that if he came out he’d never be given a “straight” role again? “Totally,” Groff cries, slapping his thighs. “No agents or producers had ever said: ‘Don’t come out of the closet, it will ruin your career,’ but it was an unspoken thing. And there were no out gay movie stars as examples. But then I fell in love, at 23. And I thought, ‘OK, if I come out, and I only do off-Broadway plays for the rest of my life, I am totally happy with that – that’s what I moved to New York for. So maybe I won’t be a romantic lead in a movie – who cares? I would rather be doing cool stuff with people who don’t give a f--- than pretend to be someone I am not.’”
Happily, that couldn’t be further from the case. While filming the second season of Mindhunter in Pittsburgh, he’s been simultaneously reprising his role as Kristoff for Frozen 2, due out in November. “It was the dream,” he beams. “To be able to sit with Charles Manson, and then drive to New York to pretend to be in a blizzard, singing a Disney song.”
But, in truth, he’s never really stopped being Kristoff. “I make Voice Memos for kids,” he reveals. “I sing for them and do the reindeer voice, which they get really excited about. I do a lot of King George Voice Memos too, actually.”
He was in Hamilton for only two months, in the spring of 2015, but made enough of an impact with his campy, knowing performance, to earn another Tony nomination.
“It was like being in the eye of the storm,” he says of his spell in the Broadway phenomenon. “I listened to the Bill Gates Desert Island Discs the other day; he has My Shot from Hamilton as his final song. And I thought, ‘Oh my god, that’s right, I met Bill Gates – he came to the show.’ You really can’t take it in, in the moment, but looking back, I’m like, ‘Wow, I really met Beyoncé?���”
Given his experience in voicing Frozen, one might assume Groff would be a dab hand at recording audiobooks. Not so, he says. When he was asked to record the audio for John Douglas’s latest non-fiction book (his 13th), The Killer Across the Table, “it was SO hard,” he says. “So much harder than I thought it was going to be. I never made it through one page without f------ up.” It did mean, however, that he finally got to meet the legendary FBI agent in person. “We’d emailed before, but getting to meet him was a great moment. He loves the show, and even talks about it in the book that I recorded.”
This second series is launching at a moment of renewed obsession with Manson, thanks to the 50th anniversary of the murder of Sharon Tate, and the release of Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I wonder out loud whether the period that Mindhunter explores, when serial killers began to be studied seriously, was also the moment that they also began to be glamorised in popular culture.
“Yes, David and the writers try to address that question. You have Holden, who is a sycophant and obsessed with Manson, and you have the Bill Tench character [Ford’s FBI colleague, played by Holt McCallany], who is like: ‘Dude, these people are disgusting and deplorable.’
“David is uninterested in creating conversation in which any one person is right and any one person is wrong,” says Groff. “He likes to hold a bunch of different perspectives at the same time. That’s what makes it worth working on, that’s what makes it worth watching.”
Mindhunter, series one
and two, are available
on Netflix
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A l l O f T h e m. 31: Seiya/Shiryu 42: Ikki
Okay, wig
1: How long have you been in the fandom? Like uhhhh a month or two, from around the mid of November.
2: Favorite character? Aiolos because I adore He.
3: Favorite Bronze Saint? JABU. I love him because he is so fucking stupid. Himbo Rights.
4: Favorite Silver Saint? Marin!
5: Favorite Gold Saint? Aiolos! I also like Mu because he is a good dad.
6: OTP? (Me/Aiolos) Hyoga/Shun is the only one I have read fics for, so probably that lmao.
7: Other ships? I think Camus/Milo is funny because they seem like that couple that has constant explosive breakups and then get back together the next day.
8: Favorite Saga? (Sanctuary - Asgard - Poseidon- Hades) I luv the classic Twelve Temples Arc and meeting all the Gold Saints.
9: Favorite Female Saint? MARIN MY GIRL
10: Favorite God/Goddess? (Hades - Athena - Poseidon- Odin-ETC) I vibe with Apollo and the armor crop top he has going on.
11: Favorite Movie? If the Hades OVAs count... yes.
12: Headcanons you have? All the female saints are bisexual and you cannot change my mind.
13: How did you join the fandom? I was researching anime/cartoons that are popular in Latin America for a school project, and lo and behold... Saint Seiya.
14: When did you join the fandom? When I was doing the research in November or so.
15: Why did you join the fandom? I decided to watch a few episodes of the anime on Netflix to Get Woke about it in order to discuss it, and then I was sucked in never to return.
16: You have a crush on a character? Which one? HHHHHH I love Aiolos;;;
17: Saddest character death? AIOLOS!!! He did not deserve his fate :(
18: Saddest backstory? If you don’t say Ikki here then you’re wrong.
19: Saddest/Most tragic Love Story? Miho and Seiya because Miho treated Seiya better than Saori usually does lmao. There are not a whole lot of canon love stories so IDK what else.
20: Opinion on Athena/Saori? I like how her coming into herself as a goddess also parallels her becoming a better and more caring person, especially towards the people risking her lives for her.
21: Manga or Anime? Anime. All-The-Bronze-Saints-Being-Related? I don’t know her.
22: Do you want to cosplay as anyone? I’m planning on making an armor Shun cosplay and a Kiki cosplay for a con in August uwu
23: Moment that made you cry? Not cry really, but Aiolos’ death and the kiddies finding his last writing in his temple were both OOF
24: Moment that made you laugh? When Misty ripped his clothes off for his vain, dramatic scene, and Seiya just rose out of the ocean and basically said, “You put your clothes back on and let’s finish this.”
25: Moment that made you Facepalm? ALL THAT REVERSE BLOODFLOW ACUPUNCTURE BULLSHIT. LEARN BASIC MEDICINE PLEASE.
26: Favourite pair of brothers? Shun and Ikki!
27: Favourite pair of twins? Saga and Kanon are the only ones I really know lmao
28: Thoughts on the “Galactic Tournament”? YOU’RE MAKING 13 YEAR OLDS FIGHT TO DEATH ON TELEVISION EXCUSE ME??? MA’AM???
29: Least favorite character? Let Deathmask and Shura know,,, I just wanna talk.
30: If I could make two characters interact more, who would they be? I wish Poseidon and Hades had some interaction just so I can see Ancient God Brother shenanigans lmao
31: Opinion on [ship name] [Seiya/Shiryu]? TBH when I first watched the series and Seiya and Shiryu were acting all goofy and nice with each other I was like damn... they should kiss. But then Shunrei appeared lmao
32: If you could kill a character, who would it be? I would kill Shura again just because I’m that spiteful. But also, Tatsumi should get a fucking prison sentence for how he treated the Bronze Saints as kids lmao
33: Saga or Kanon? Kanon
34: If you could bring a character back to life, who would it be? Me, leaning into the mic: Aiolos. (But also his bro, Aiolia)
35: Marin or Shaina? Why would you pit them against each other they’re GFs :(
36: Favorite character backstory? Hyoga’s backstory with his mom is so OOF, but also so good
37: Least favorite character backstory? RIP to Shion turning his back to Saga for one second and getting obliterated but I’m different (I also think the plot point of a character having TWO PERSONALITIES AND ONE IS EVIL UWU is so overrated smh)
38: Do you have any merch? I just ordered some pins >:)
39: Favorite chapter? Seeing the backstory with Aiolos training Aiolia... chefs kiss
40: Character you wish hadn’t died? Aiolos Cassios did not deserve his his fate either :( And Esmerelda!!! Damn!
41: Character you would give more Screen Time? MY LASS, MIHO (And also Jabu)
42: Opinion on *insert name* [Ikki]? The Watchful Twunk over a pack of feral teen Twinks... he is a dearly needed part of the team
43: Favourite Teacher/Sensei? At the risk of saying Marin again, I also like Dohko because he LOVES HIS KIDS
44: Most wasted character? All the other Bronze Saints besides the main ones tbh
45: NOTP? If you ship Saori with people TWICE HER AGE, or people MYTHOLOGICALLY RELATED TO HER, you will die by my hand
46: Favorite AU? AU where Aiolos lives I think an AU where Aiolos actually becomes the Pope and raises Saori/Athena as his own bean would be cool
47: Favorite character from the Hades Saga? Pandora is Goth GF material
48: Most attractive character? Aiolos Shaka, despite being the world’s largest prick, is also very beautiful. Shaina is also an attractive young lady.
49: Favourite Song? PEGASUS FANTASY (the Latin American Spanish version is lit)
50: After Saga’s death… who would you nominate to be the New Pope? Mu, following in the footsteps of his master, is a Gold Saint with his shit together, as seen by his parenting of Kiki, and he therefore would make a good Pope.
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Welcome to FiveThirtyEight’s weekly politics chat. The transcript below has been lightly edited.
sarahf (Sarah Frostenson, politics editor): After months of presidential candidate announcements, the Democratic primary field appears to be set (although never say never). And former Vice President Joe Biden is still the early polling front-runner. With candidates like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg jockeying to peel off support from him, the race is on among Democrats to figure out who the non-Biden Democrat is.
So what does that race look like? Where, if anywhere, do we see support coalescing around a candidate who isn’t Biden? And what kind of strategies do we think candidates will use to take him on?
nrakich (Nathaniel Rakich, elections analyst): I just think it’s really hard to take on a popular former president’s vice president who is universally known and is well-liked within the party.
Certainly it’s not impossible — I think there’s a good chance Biden isn’t the nominee — but it’s not a task I envy the other candidates.
sarahf: But are we surprised that Biden has been able to hold onto such a large lead in the polls?
natesilver (Nate Silver, editor in chief): What we know is that Biden’s support isn’t purely a matter of the field being divided. He also does very well in one-on-one matchups against potential opponents.
New poll alert from our May Verified Voter Omnibus
2020 National Democratic Primary, Head-to-Head:
Biden 61% (+36)
Sanders 25%
Biden 63% (+43)
Harris 20%
Biden 65% (+48)
Buttigieg 17%
Biden 66% (+47)
Warren 19%https://t.co/8PPnkJEVoi
— Echelon (@EchelonInsights) May 24, 2019
But am I surprised that he’s held onto this lead? Well, no, not really, because NOTHING IS F—ING HAPPENING. THE NEWS CYCLE IS REALLY BORING, AT LEAST AS FAR AS 2020 GOES.
geoffrey.skelley (Geoffrey Skelley, elections analyst): Haha, but as Nathaniel pointed out, Biden is quite popular among Democrats. For an article that I wrote earlier this month, I looked at three national polls that had been conducted since April 26, and according to those, Biden was not only the best-known candidate but also had the highest favorable ratings among people who had an opinion about the candidates.
Biden is a polling front-runner and well-liked
Average of favorable ratings among Democratic voters in three national polls published in late April and early May
Candidate Avg. Share with opinion avg. favorable rating favorable rating among those with opinion Joe Biden 91.0% 75.0% 82.4% Kamala Harris 67.0 53.7 80.1 Pete Buttigieg 55.0 44.0 80.0 Elizabeth Warren 77.3 61.0 78.9 Bernie Sanders 91.3 71.7 78.5 Beto O’Rourke 63.7 49.3 77.5 Cory Booker 60.3 46.7 77.3 Julian Castro 47.0 34.7 73.8 Jay Inslee 30.0 21.7 72.2 Amy Klobuchar 49.0 34.7 70.7 Kirsten Gillibrand 53.0 37.3 70.4 Andrew Yang 32.3 21.3 66.0 John Hickenlooper 32.3 20.7 63.9 John Delaney 26.0 16.3 62.8 Tim Ryan 34.0 20.0 58.8 Tulsi Gabbard 34.7 18.7 53.8 Seth Moulton 23.0 12.3 53.6
Includes all candidates FiveThirtyEight considered “major” who were tested in all three polls.
Share with an opinion is favorable rating plus unfavorable rating.
Sources: The Economist/YouGov, HarrisX, Morning Consult
nrakich: Yeah. My guess is that someone is going to have to go negative.
natesilver: I’m not sure about that. You need a multipronged strategy, but candidates need to make the case for why they’re electable. Because if voters like you from an aesthetics or policy standpoint, they usually want to find excuses to vote for you, electability be damned.
So I think maybe a softer, more positive sell — introducing yourself — is better than trying to make this complicated tactical argument about electability, which won’t always look great, especially if Biden is doing better in head-to-head polls against President Trump, as he is for the time being.
nrakich: Yeah, the idea that Biden is electable is kind of built on a house of cards. We don’t know much about what makes a candidate electable, and you could just as easily make the case that Biden isn’t electable (e.g., by focusing on his age).
But also an earlier Echelon Insights poll implied that Biden’s support isn’t just a function of voters seeing him as electable. In an open-ended question, only 10 percent of Biden supporters said they supported him because of his ability to beat Trump. By contrast, almost half said it was because of his experience — something we know from other polls that Democrats are valuing this year.
geoffrey.skelley: Also, many of the candidates the political press view as very well-known — Kamala Harris, Beto O’Rourke, Pete Buttigieg, Cory Booker — actually aren’t that well-known yet.
natesilver: Even someone like Harris, who might have 75 percent name recognition or whatever … in some ways, that overstates how well-known she is. Maybe 75 percent of voters know something about her, but they don’t know nearly as much as they know about Biden and Bernie Sanders.
nrakich: Yeah, in a recent Monmouth University poll, 82 percent of registered Democrats said they had heard of Harris, but only 67 percent had an opinion.
The only candidate who is truly as well-known as Biden is Bernie Sanders. And he’s still running behind Biden, which is why I don’t think he’ll be the one to overtake him (if someone does).
sarahf: Sure, but do we think part of Biden’s success is because the field is so large and unwieldy? The debates may help level the playing field, but I wonder if what really needs to happen is for some candidates to drop out. Geoff looked at this question in elections dating back to 1980 and found that, on average, roughly 1 in 4 candidates dropped out before the Iowa caucuses. Do we think that happens this year?
nrakich: I’m sure that a few candidates will drop out this fall after failing to make an impression in the debates (and perhaps as the filing deadline to seek reelection to their current office approaches … lookin’ at you, Eric Swalwell). But I don’t think consolidating the field would really hurt Biden.
natesilver: I think Biden would still be ahead with a smaller field — that’s what that Echelon poll says — but, yeah, the dynamics of a large field help him. Partly by taking time away from the Amy Klobuchar/Cory Booker tier of candidates who might be more threatening to him if they got the airspace to make their case.
nrakich: That’s a good point — it’s more about taking away others’ media attention than their voters (at least at this stage). And if the only two candidates were Biden and, say, Harris, then the two might get roughly equal airtime.
geoffrey.skelley: Right. Hillary Clinton clearly beat Sanders in 2016, but the fact that he was really the only opposition she faced helped him win 43 percent of the primary vote.
nrakich: Exactly.
Pour one out for Martin O’Malley.
geoffrey.skelley: So aiming to be Biden’s chief alternative makes some sense. The field will likely winnow pretty quickly after the early contests, so being one of the maybe five candidates left when Democrats get to Super Tuesday on March 3 gets you into the late innings of the game.
sarahf: It does seem at least, regardless of Biden’s lead in the polls, early-state party activists are at least a little less keen on him.
On Monday, The New York Times published an article based on conversations with Democratic Party leaders and strategists, many of whom hailed from early-nominating states like Iowa, and they described a more fluid race, which reflects what FiveThirtyEight contributor Seth Masket found in his April survey of early-state Democratic Party activists.
As you can see in this table, support for Biden actually dropped from earlier surveys, while support for candidates like Warren and Buttigieg grew. Of course, what’s really happening is that many activists are still deciding between multiple candidates. But why do we think there is such a disconnect in Biden’s support among early-state party activists and the polls?
Which candidates early-state activists are considering
Share of respondents who said they were considering a candidate or had already committed to support a candidate in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary
activists considering supporting Candidate Dec. 2018 Feb. 2019 April Harris 61%
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54%
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53%
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Booker 45
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49
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47
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Warren 24
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40
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35
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Buttigieg —
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17
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29
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Klobuchar 34
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37
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26
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Gillibrand 21
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23
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26
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Sanders 29
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29
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24
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Biden 39
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34
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21
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McAuliffe 5
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14
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15
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Castro —
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17
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15
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O’Rourke 34
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14
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15
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Hickenlooper 21
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23
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12
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Bennet —
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—
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12
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Inslee —
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—
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12
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Gabbard —
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9
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9
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Yang —
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9
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Delaney 16
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17
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3
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Source: Seth Masket, “Learning from Loss: The Democrats, 2016-2020”
natesilver: Yeah … I do think it’s conceivable that party elites are having trouble deciding because of the large number of candidates. This New York Times article on Warren pretty much said that.
geoffrey.skelley: They may feel Biden is a good choice but are worried because he’s really, really old.
It’s worth repeating that Biden will be 78 by Inauguration Day in 2021. President Trump was already the oldest president to ever take office at 70, but we’re talking close to a decade more for Biden.
natesilver: I don’t know why that hasn’t been more of a focus from the other candidates.
And frankly also from the media.
sarahf: Two recently released polls from Gallup and the Pew Research Center echo that most Americans don’t want a presidential candidate in their 70s and suggest that voters prefer younger candidates. According to the Pew study, just 3 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say the 70s is the best age for a president.
Three percent!!!
But as our colleague Perry Bacon recently pointed out, should we take these findings seriously? After all, according to the Gallup poll, 37 percent of Republicans said they wouldn’t vote for a “generally well-qualified” presidential candidate from their party if the candidate was older than 70, yet Trump will be 74 in 2020.
nrakich: Remember, though, voters are apt to change what they say they want in a president based on whom they have already decided to support.
natesilver: Part of the issue is that Bernie Sanders has been billed as the main alternative to Joe Biden … and he’s just as old, of course. Actually, more than a year older.
Do people even realize how old they are?
Sanders would be older on Day 1 than Trump would be at the end of his second term!
Anyway, I think Bernie Sanders makes a fairly poor anti-Biden candidate, for several reasons.
sarahf: Which are what exactly?
natesilver: For one, they’re both old white dudes who have been around forever.
For another, Bernie doesn’t have a great electability argument because he’s just as well-known as Biden but is doing (slightly) worse in polls against Trump.
For yet another, Bernie has never had a good strategy for how to beat Biden one on one. He’s running as somewhat of a factional candidate — not really trying to bridge gaps with other parts of the Democratic Party — and instead his whole strategy rests on the hope that the field remains divided so that he can start to rack up delegates with a 30 percent plurality.
Finally, both candidates have talked a lot about the importance of the white working-class vote.
I come from the white working class, and I am deeply humiliated that the Democratic Party cannot talk to the people where I came from.
— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) November 14, 2016
So it’s not just that they’re white men, but also that they’re sort of leaning into that as an electoral advantage. But someone like Harris could make a much different argument about how the Democratic Party needs to evolve.
sarahf: So what is Harris’s strategy as the anti-Biden candidate? She can make the argument that she represents a new direction for the party, but what else can she point to?
natesilver: She’d also make an argument about the importance of high turnout, energizing the Obama voter coalition, etc.
Also, she can make an argument about how “electability” encourages voters to engage in thinking that’s racially prejudiced and biased against women, etc., and critique that.
Which Bernie Sanders can’t do.
nrakich: Yeah, but for Harris to turn that into a positive in a presidential race, she needs people to stop thinking Hillary Clinton lost because she focused on identity politics.
sarahf: Granted, that study just looked at white Democratic voters, but it does seem as though one of the many overcorrections after 2016 (at least at this stage) is that candidates should not make an overt appeal to “identity politics.”
nrakich: In a sense. But, also, I think Biden is benefiting from a form of identity politics of his own.
sarahf: Meaning his appeal to white working-class voters, Nathaniel?
nrakich: Right. And it’s almost a prerequisite for believing that a white man is the most “electable” candidate against Trump that voters buy into the “identity politics” narrative of 2016.
natesilver: A lot of liberals who are very against that narrative were encouraging it for a long time — until they realized that it seemed to be helping Biden.
So it isn’t like voters are picking this up out of nowhere.
For Bernie Sanders to post that tweet only days after Clinton lost the presidential election is at least adjacent to the idea that a white man is more electable.
sarahf: So why do we think we haven’t seen more pushback against this narrative? Is it because the white working-class voter is a key part of Trump’s base?
natesilver: Well, the white working class was awfully important.
geoffrey.skelley: But it may be hard for candidates to push back against this narrative when the media has spent more than two years focusing a lot of energy on the white working class and how it relates to Trump’s election, instead of focusing on lower turnout among African American voters in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia — the three big metro areas in the three closest states that went for Trump in 2016.
natesilver: But Trump won the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote. And maybe I disagree a bit with Geoff — I think that was more about the white working class shifting than a decline in, for example, African American turnout. Since Clinton was probably never going to do as well turning out black voters as Obama did.
nrakich: I think that’s true, Nate. But an increase in African American turnout also could have swung those states.
Democrats still would have had an Electoral College disadvantage, but they could have won the election in spite of it. And Harris can easily make the argument that she’ll turn out black voters at levels more similar to Obama than Clinton.
natesilver: Overall Democratic turnout was reasonably high by historical norms, though:
Number of Democrats that turned out for the presidential election, per exit polls:
2000: 41.1 million
2004: 45.2 milion
2008: 51.2 million
2012: 49.1 million
2016: 49.2 million https://t.co/bsNhIN4JoT
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) May 28, 2019
In the aggregate, the topline on Clinton in 2016 just wasn’t that different from Obama in 2012. They won by about the same margin in the popular vote. It’s where the votes were distributed that made a huge difference.
geoffrey.skelley: And Clinton’s losses in the Midwest were disproportionately costly relative to her gains on the coasts.
nrakich: Honestly, Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by such narrow margins, there are almost certainly multiple paths for Democrats to take them back, which is another reason that this electability debate is taking up way too much oxygen, IMO.
natesilver: I’m anti-anti-electability.
nrakich: I’m anti-electability.
geoffrey.skelley: I’m ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t know what to say about it.
sarahf: Lol, OK. Let’s avoid this fight and talk about what kinds of strategies the candidates should use to position themselves as the anti-Biden candidate.
It’s not really clear to me right now what will work well because Biden has done a good job making the election about him and Trump.
nrakich: Yeah, that’s not clear to me either, Sarah.
I think chipping away at Biden’s advantage on electability and reminding voters of his age, as we’ve discussed, could be a good foot in the door.
But I don’t know if that will be sufficient.
natesilver: Age, sure. But on electability, I think you need to be careful. Because Biden’s electability arguments, including the white working-class emphasis, are more robust than people tend to assume. And when you tell voters that Biden is too moderate or bipartisan, they might actually read that as his being more electable.
geoffrey.skelley: I think Warren’s policy-heavy approach is good for her in particular. It’s a way to differentiate herself and plays to one of her strengths.
Perhaps the other candidates are struggling to nail down an approach that will set them apart.
natesilver: Yeah, I do think Warren has a pretty good approach.
“Hey, let’s just focus on policy and do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may” is going to have a lot of appeal to high-information voters.
And to the media, which purports to love policy and hate the horse race.
That write-up Warren got in the Times on Tuesday was extremely favorable, for instance, in contrast to the coverage she got in the early stages of her campaign, before the policy focus.
Also, saying that you haven’t hired a pollster, as Warren has said, is probably a line that would poll really well!
nrakich: Haha. I could fill an entire chat with rants about that.
geoffrey.skelley: The whole “I don’t have a pollster” thing gets a :face_with_rolling_eyes: from me, but whatever works for you.
natesilver:
"we're not doing polls but we do have a data and analytics team" strikes me as a slightly weird flex but…ok! https://t.co/Ber0O7bpis
— Ariel Edwards-Levy (@aedwardslevy) May 28, 2019
natesilver: But the media has largely endorsed the idea that she’s an authentic policy wonk who doesn’t care that much about what might be popular.
geoffrey.skelley: So leaning into policy and saying that she doesn’t worry about the polls do seem pretty smart!
natesilver: Also, almost all the positions that Warren has rolled out would probably poll fairly well in the context of a Democratic primary. So it’s not like she even really has to make a trade-off.
But it does make for a good contrast to Biden, who is deliberately vague on the details. And unlike Bernie Sanders, Warren plausibly can get some support from the Democratic establishment. She’s a fairly loyal, partisan Democrat when she needs to be.
sarahf: What about Buttigieg, someone else who is a bit vague on the details but like Biden enjoys high favorable ratings and has a good standing in the polls? What should be his strategy?
geoffrey.skelley: Keep speaking Norwegian?
natesilver: Try to be Gary Hart to Biden’s Walter Mondale?
nrakich: Ah yes, 1984 Democratic nominee Gary Hart.
(I kid, I kid. I don’t even really disagree, but it just goes to show that it will be hard to topple Biden!)
geoffrey.skelley: But seriously, Buttigieg can keep trying to appeal to liberal whites. It has worked for him so far.
natesilver: For all of these not-Biden candidates, it’s a problem that Biden is very popular among black voters, at least for the time being.
nrakich: That’s a good point.
I wonder if attacking Biden on his role in the 1994 crime bill or the 1991 Anita Hill hearing could be an effective strategy.
sarahf: Trump is certainly trying it out.
Anyone associated with the 1994 Crime Bill will not have a chance of being elected. In particular, African Americans will not be able to vote for you. I, on the other hand, was responsible for Criminal Justice Reform, which had tremendous support, & helped fix the bad 1994 Bill!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 27, 2019
geoffrey.skelley: Yes, that’s the sort of thing that could become a 10-minute segment of the debates and put Biden on his heels a bit.
nrakich: And then get replayed a bunch on cable news.
natesilver: Maybe. But there has already been a lot of effort to re-litigate Biden’s past, and eight years as Obama’s vice president seem to give him a lot of credibility with voters.
nrakich: It’s going to require some coordination on the part of all these not-Biden Democrats. If they can’t agree on what to attack him on, the individual punches probably won’t land. But if everyone is hitting him on, say, the crime bill, that is likelier to catch on as a #narrative.
natesilver: Yeah, the debates are a good opportunity for the other candidates. And they’re coming at a sort of bad time for Biden, in that the media is probably pretty ready to move on from the “Biden is surging” narrative.
sarahf: Yeah, Democrats don’t really lack options when it comes to an anti-Biden candidate. Making a dent in Biden’s lead may be a matter of coalescing around a candidate or two. Do we see evidence of that happening? Or what should we be looking for as Democratic candidates try to position themselves as the anti-Biden candidate?
geoffrey.skelley: Sanders’s numbers (and those of others) have fallen a bit since Biden got into the race, so the anti-Biden field might be even more wide open than it was when he was in pre-campaign mode.
nrakich: I don’t see much evidence of it yet. And coalescing is easier said than done when you’re a party with millions of voters and several coalitions. Republicans found this out the hard way in 2016.
natesilver: I think other than Bernie Sanders, whose strategy relied on winning by plurality and for whom Biden is therefore especially problematic since he has a larger plurality, the other candidates don’t necessarily need to worry about Biden all that much.
Or to be clear, they ABSOLUTELY have to worry about him, but it’s not clear that there’s much they can do about it right now.
geoffrey.skelley: Except try to position themselves to do well enough in the early states — maybe even win one of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada or South Carolina — to keep their campaigns going into March.
natesilver: Yeah, if I were Warren or Harris, I’d be looking at how I can position myself as a clear No. 2.
By the way, I don’t take for granted that Biden will necessarily have one of the early-state tickets. It’s possible that he’ll fall very flat in the debates, for instance.
But again, one reason it’s nice to be No. 2 is because you become No. 1 if the front-runner runs out of gas.
I went to the Indy 500 this weekend, so I’m thinking entirely in terms of motorsports analogies. Basically, debates serve as caution flags that bunch the field together, except you still need to be on the lead lap when that happens or you have big problems.
nrakich: I have no idea what you just said.
natesilver: I’m saying that car racing makes for a much better metaphor for presidential politics than horse racing.
There’s more strategy and more randomness.
sarahf: And more crashes.
natesilver: Yeah, and those crashes can have unintended and unpredictable consequences on the rest of the field.
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Receptionist Lady Love (jjk) Ch. 2
➛ Starting your new job as the receptionist at BigHit, you were determined to become friends with your coworkers. You certainly weren’t expecting to make Jeon Jungkook, the Head of Sales, avoid you at all costs.
pairing: Jungkook / Reader
genre: fluff, humor, office au, worker!bangtan, correspondence story
wordcount: 3,469
rating: PG
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From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Coworkers
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:04 pm]
Hi Hoseok-sunbae! I was just wondering whether you would be able to help me out a bit. You guys have been so nice to me and I want to make sure that I do my job properly so that it isn’t an inconvenience for any of you. Which brings me to my problem of sorts. Not that it’s a problem because it’s not at all a problem but there’s this man who photocopies his own paperwork by himself and I was wondering who it was. I know that there are seven people in this branch, not including me, and I’ve only met six so I’m just a little curious. Sorry if this is a bother.
Thank you,
(F/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Coworkers
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:08 pm]
(F/n)-ah! It’s no problem at all. I glad you told me. Would this individual happen to have brown hair and a bunny smile? Does he have a lot of muscles? Does he poke his tongue around in his cheek when he’s jealous? Is he shy? If so, that’s Jeon Jungkook. The guy I told you wanted to have lunch with you.
P.S. Don't be so formal, (f/n)-ah! You're part of the family already :)
Kind regards,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Coworkers
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:10 pm]
Is that really him? Wow. He really is like a bunny. When he’s waiting for his copies, he’s all twitchy like he’d run away if something moved suddenly. It’s cute endearing. By the way, do you think he’s avoiding me? He always has a meeting or a call around lunchtime.
With gratitude,
(F/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Coworkers
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:12 pm]
It could be but I wouldn’t worry about it. You’ll talk to him soon, I promise. :)
Warm wishes,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Coworkers
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:13 pm]
I hope so. :’)
Thank you again,
(F/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Park Jimin <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: You-know-who
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:28 pm]
Jungkookie-ah~
I heard that you haven’t done anything about that crush that you have on you-know-who.
Fond regards,
Jimin
Senior Sales Representative
322-4177
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Park Jimin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: You-know-who
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:31 pm]
You heard wrong. I am doing something. I’m ignoring it. This is a place of business and I’m an adult at work. Also, are you five? What’s with the ‘you-know-who’?
P.S. Stop with the ‘Jungkookie’. I am a man, goshdarnit.
Busy adulting,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Park Jimin <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: You-know-who
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:35 pm]
It’s because you never know whether HR is monitoring your emails plus, who knows what the receptionist can do to spy on people. Side note, if you’re a man then why say goshdarnit? Another thing, you’ve started coming an hour before work starts just so that you can be the first in the building and hide in your office without her seeing you.
Warmly,
Jimin
Senior Sales Representative
322-4177
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Park Jimin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: You-know-who
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:38 pm]
Do you really think that Yoongi-hyung would bother monitoring our emails? I did ask him though and he glared at me so we’re in the clear. The answer to the side note: I am a man and I say goshdarnit. Deal with it. No, not really. I’m afraid that Jin-hyung is monitoring my emails for swear words. Anyway, stop stalking me, you creep.
Best,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Park Jimin <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: You-know-who
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:41 pm]
Yah what have I done to deserve this disrespect? >.>
Also, if you don’t want her, can I have her?
Your hyung,
Jimin
Senior Sales Representative
322-4177
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: (F/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:16 pm]
Kook, why have you not talked to her yet?! Or gone on the lunch date that I graciously set up for you!
Impatiently yours,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: (F/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:23 pm]
Jin-hyung told me to do my own copies and I’ve been in a ton of meetings and sales calls lately so I haven’t had the time. I just got back from one right now, actually.
Professionally,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: (F/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:34 pm]
So you're free right now?
Curious,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: (F/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:36 pm]
Sure. Why? Up for some Overwatch or something?
Bored,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: (F/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:37 pm]
Nah. I want lunch though. Meet me in the break room in five?
Your hungry hungry hyung,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: (F/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [1:39 pm]
Hyung...the cringe is real. Please stop.
Also, sure. Sounds good. I'll meet you there.
Your cringing cringing dongsaeng,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [2:14 pm]
BigHit‘s Bulletproof Boys Instant Message
Jeon Jungkook: JUNG HOSEOK [2:14 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: I AM GOING TO KILL YOU [2:14 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: HE LOCKED ME INTO THE BREAK ROOM WITH (F/N) FOR MY ENTIRE LUNCH BREAK [2:14 pm]
Jung Hoseok: Oh my sweet, stupid Jungkookie… [2:15 pm]
Jung Hoseok: This is so great. I've been enjoying these past thirty minutes or so [2:15 pm]
Park Jimin: Me too :3 [2:16 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Me three that was so much FUN (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ [2:16 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: You two are fired. Clean up your desks [2:16 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Now now, oh stupid one. Don't be so quick to lay the blame when it was you who didn't see through Hoseok’s very very obvious intentions [2:17 pm]
Kim Namjoon: Honestly I thought you were smarter than that...now a little afraid that I made the wrong choice for the head of sales... [2:17 pm]
Park Jimin: I nominate me (╯✧▽✧)╯[2:18 pm]
Kim Taehyung: ME ME ME I CALL IT!! [2:18 pm]
Park Jimin: Suck it I called it first :P [2:19 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Fite me bish [2:19 pm]
Park Jimin: Bring it >> [2:19 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Gonna get your butt whooped, short face >:( [2:20 pm]
Park Jimin: Little kinky for right now isn’t it? Flattered but not into that :( [2:20 pm]
Jung Hoseok: Woah guys let’s keep that in the bedroom [2:21 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Yeah there's a baby bun reading these [2:21 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: I'm gonna kick all of your assets [2:21 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: Assets [2:21 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: Assets [2:21 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: Assets [2:22 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: DANN IT ALL TO HELP WHAT THE DUCK [2:22 pm]
Kim Taehyung: AHAHAHAHA WHAT A BABY HE CAN’T EVEN SWEAR [2:22 pm]
Park Jimin: Don’t worry, cutie patootie lil bunny baby. (F/n) will probably think that your naive lil butt is cute [2:23 pm]
Kim Taehyung: What butt tho??? Find it for me on a map bb [2:23 pm]
Park Jimin: Hey hey my butt should be the only one you see ;)) [2:23 pm]
Kim Seokjin: You’re disgusting [2:24 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Don’t you realize that my baby boy is trying to go out with (y/n) and doesn’t need your homosexuality to mess with his tiny brain [2:24 pm]
Kim Namjoon: Well if all goes well he's gonna be (f/n)’s baby boy, not yours [2:24 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Ayy true true [2:24 pm]
Jung Hoseok: Wow have you two actually started going out? Congrats guys [2:25 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Don’t be delusional. It’s just part of our appeal to the ladies ;)) [2:25 pm]
Park Jimin: Yeah we’re [2:25 pm]
Park Jimin: We’re… [2:26 pm]
Park Jimin: What’s the word again? [2:26 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Homo [2:26 pm]
Park Jimin: No no that’s not it [2:27 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Oh so the other one [2:27 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Wow you’re so close. Almost there [2:28 pm]
Jung Hoseok: That’s what she said [2:28 pm]
Park Jimin: He- [2:29 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Omg yesss that makes sense ‘cause we’re guys [2:29 pm]
Park Jimin: Right?! [2:29 pm]
Park Jimin: Ok sooo [2:30 pm]
Park Jimin: Het- [2:30 pm]
Park Jimin: Heter- [2:30 pm]
Park Jimin: No that can’t be it [2:30 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Actually I think that’s it [2:31 pm]
Park Jimin: Wowwww ok then yeah we’re totally heter [2:31 pm]
Jung Hoseok: Come on just a little more. You can do it [2:32 pm]
Jung Hoseok: That’s what she said [2:32 pm]
Kim Seokjin: You ho [2:32 pm]
Jung Hoseok: That’s mah name ╮(︶▽︶)╭ [2:33 pm]
Park Jimin: Hetera [2:33 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Nah bro. We’re dudes so that’s gotta be an o [2:34 pm]
Park Jimin: Hetero?? [2:34 pm]
Park Jimin: Hetero [2:34 pm]
Kim Taehyung: Hetero!!!!!! :)))))) [2:35 pm]
Park Jimin: Does this mean that hetero females are actually shetero [2:35 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: Oh hi is this the group of friends that locked me in the break room with (Y/n)? [2:36 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: They’re supposed to be listening to me complain and threaten them and then I’m supposed to kick their sorry assets [2:36 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: But they seem to have gotten distracted with their own STUPID IDIOCY [2:37 pm]
Min Yoongi: Wow the little kid has learned some big words [2:37 pm]
Kim Namjoon: I would say you’re welcome but idiocy isn’t exactly a big word so... [2:38 pm]
Min Yoongi: I have access to your emails [2:38 pm]
Kim Namjoon: It’s a very big word. You’re welcome, Kookie, by the way, for teaching you that [2:39 pm]
Kim Taehyung: I bet Kookie is all tongue pokey in his cheek right now kkk [2:39 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Go check [2:39 pm]
Kim Taehyung: But I’m the one who made faces at him through the window after Hobi locked him in [2:40 pm]
Kim Seokjin: That sounds like a you problem and not a me problem [2:40 pm]
Park Jimin: Don’t worry bb I’ll go see ;3 [2:40 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: OH YEAH JUST COME SEE ME IN MY OFFICE IT’S ALL GONNA BE OKAY I TOTALLY FORGIVE YOU [2:40 pm]
Park Jimin: Oops sorry bb it’s not happening. I choose life [2:41 pm]
Kim Namjoon: What will you give me if I go check and he’s not doing the thingy [2:41 pm]
Kim Taehyung: I’ll make Jimin stop taping pictures of your face on your condoms [2:41 pm]
Park Jimin: Wha? I don’t do that [2:41 pm]
Jung Hoseok: And here we see a mochi betrayed and forsaken by his own kind [2:42 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Ah nature...the circle of life is cruel...how sad [2:42 pm]
Jeon Jungkook: Justice >:)) [2:42 pm]
Kim Namjoon: YOU [2:43 pm]
Kim Namjoon: I will deal with you later [2:43 pm]
Min Yoongi: He’s not doing the thing [2:43 pm]
Kim Namjoon: Damn it hyung I was getting to that [2:43 pm]
Min Yoongi: You’re spamming and I don’t appreciate it. [2:44 pm]
Min Yoongi: Also, kid, don’t rush. It never ends well [2:44 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Awww that’s so sweet [2:44 pm]
Jung Hoseok: Awh grandpa Yoongs is so cute [2:44 pm]
Kim Seokjin: Someone change his name in the company registry to Cute Grandpa Yoongs [2:45 pm]
Kim Taehyung: On it [2:45 pm]
Min Yoongi: I will have your head [2:45 pm]
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From: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [2:51 pm]
Didja enjoy your lunch with Ms.Thang???
Sincerely,
Taehyung
Senior Sales Representative
322-4178
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [2:56 pm]
F you, man.
Not in the mood,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [2:58 pm]
Mean. No, but seriously, did you enjoy lunch?
Yours sincerely,
Taehyung
Senior Sales Representative
322-4178
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [3:03 pm]
It was fine? I guess? It was awkward at first. Y’know, because I walked in expecting Hobi-hyung and saw her...and then you slammed the door to the office shut and he slammed the door to the annex shut and you both locked them...and then you both laughed at me while I swore at you and beat at the doors and stuff…
Suddenly embarrassed,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [3:09 pm]
GOLD. PURE GOLD. SO PROUD OF MYSELF.
I could probably file a report of violence in the workplace based off of all those threats, honestly. Could be the victim of a hate crime…
Plus you probably scared the bajeezus outta the poor girl. No wonder it was awkward. Maybe you do need lessons...should I call a meeting?
Very sincerely,
Taehyung
Senior Sales Representative
322-4178
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [3:22 pm]
Shut your face. That’s never necessary. NEVER.
And yeah, she kept saying that she had no idea what you guys were planning. She was all red and stuttery and yeah...kinda cute. Anyway, when I finally quit yelling at you guys, I grabbed my yogurt and sat down and honestly I was planning on being quiet the entire time.
I think she was too and then she noticed my yogurt and got this funny look on her face and said, “So I know this is weird and there’s no reason for me to know this, but Namjoon brought a yogurt container full of mayonnaise to work and put one of your sticky notes on it.”
How are you supposed to react to that?
I just sat there like an idiot for a good ten seconds before asking her whether it was the yogurt I was holding. Then she said yep and we just sat there with these dumb faces and then we both just started laughing our assets off. Then lunch went by really really well. I’ve learned a lot, hyung. Allow me to list them for you.
She plays Overwatch
Did you know this? You haven’t been playing with her, right? Don’t. Not without me. ‘Cause I like to play. That’s all.
She likes Iron Man the best
Or maybe Spiderman but I can forgive this
When she gets really bored, she throws paper clips into Jin’s coffee cup
Not entirely sure whether he knows it’s her or not so don’t tell
Okay so maybe I didn't learn that much but dude she's smart and pretty and all that good stuff so I CALL DIBS. I CALL IT. NO TOUCHY TOUCHY. NONE.
P.S. How many times are you going to reuse sincerely? Not very creative or sincere.
Creatively and without repetition,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Receptionist Lady Love
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [3:38 pm]
Awh little Jungkookie is all grown up and whipped for a girl he’s talked to once in his entire life. So proud. Can't help it if she falls for me though. ;)
P.S. Shut up. I hate these stupid things. What's the point? There's none. I could literally text you. But just because you're being mean...
Not sincerely,
Taehyung
Senior Sales Representative
322-4178
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Lunch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:04 pm]
Locking me in a room with him wasn’t cool, Hobi.
Disappointed,
(Y/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Lunch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:10 pm]
Oh, please. You loved it so I’ll save you the ‘thank you’ and go straight to the ‘you’re welcome’. You’re welcome.
With pleasure,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Lunch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:17 pm]
Freak you.
Anyway...so we were talking over lunch and I found out that he plays Overwatch. He’s such a weeb, it’s adorable. BUT THAT’S NOT THE POINT! I was just wondering whether you would ask him to play with us tomorrow?
Doesn’t even care,
(Y/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Lunch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:25 pm]
That’s cute but it’s a no from me. This oppa doesn’t play ;)))
No, but seriously. Just ask him yourself. I’m sure he’d love to play with you ;D
Wink wonk,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lunch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:29 pm]
Just wait until I make new friends. Your sorry butt is gonna be all alone, crusty and dusty in the annex.
Besides, what should I say? “Hi, it’s (y/n) from that time earlier today when we got locked in the break room together. Wanna play Overwatch with me tomorrow?” I don’t think so. He doesn’t need to see that awkwardness. No one does. No one. Just ask? Please? I’ll take you out to lunch :)
The epitome of awkwardness,
(Y/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Jung Hoseok <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lunch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:34 pm]
How cute. If only you were this cute all the time. But no, you have to be an adult and ask him on your own like a big girl. Just be cool and in control but cute. Our baby boy loves a caring mommy ;)))
Wonk wink,
Hoseok
Customer Service Representative
322-4183
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Overwatch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:46 pm]
Tomorrow. 10 a.m. Overwatch. Let’s see what you got, weeb.
Mercy,
(Y/n)
Receptionist
322-4171
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
Subject: (Y/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:52 pm]
HYUNG!!!!!!!!!!! SHE JUST EMAILED ME ABOUT PLAYING OVERWATCH WITH HER! ASDFGHJKL WHAT DO I SAY?!?!?!?!
Help,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: Kim Taehyung <[email protected]>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: (Y/n)
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:54 pm]
Just answer her, you dip. Don’t be stupid. Shoot her with that playboy charisma, Mr. Hotshot Golden Boy. And hurry before she leaves! Don’t leave her waiting, douche.
P.S. Did you know that douches are things that clean people’s butts? Joonie told me earlier and I figured I didn’t need to suffer alone so here’s this uselsess piece of scarring knowledge.
Sincerely,
Taehyung
Senior Sales Representative
322-4178
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Overwatch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:57 pm]
Already begging for mercy? Fine. Bring it >:)
McCree,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
From: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
To: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
Subject: Overwatch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:58 pm]
You know, smoking’s bad for your health.
Right beside you,
(Y/n)
From: Jeon Jungkook <[email protected]>
To: (L/n) (F/n) <(l/n).(f/n)@bighit.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Overwatch
Date: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 [4:59 pm]
Well, I have faith you can patch me back up, doc.
Much obliged,
Jungkook
Senior Sales Representative
322-4179
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ok so ive been tagged in different tags by different people ,,, nd have procrastinated on actually doing them ,, so i decided to compile all of them in one post !!
warning: this will be a v long post ,, read only if u wanna ,, know more abt me i guess (why would u lmAO)
fact tag?? i guess
rules: tag 9 people you want to get to know better and answer the questions
was tagged by maria !! @s0ftminho ♡ඩ⌔ඩ♡
Relationship status: single
Favourite colour: yellow,, peach,, nd black
Top 3 ships: oof idk?? oo nomin probably !!
Lipstick or chapstick: i dont use them :”)
Last song: im listening to gfriend - rough rn!
Last movie: spiderman homecoming hAHHAHA ( i was doing a mini marvel marathon bc my dad had the movies and didnt ! tell ! me ! but i uh stopped there lmao )
Top 3 shows: i dont watch shows often,, but i do rly like knowing brothers, night goblin :”) nd its dangerous outside the blanket! oooo theres also cafe amor that is p cute too !!
Currently reading: ok if manga counts, kimi no todoke nd bnha ,, if not ,, waking gods by sylvain neuvel (but i paused like ,, last yr prob hAHHA)
kpop + music tag!
ok so i was tagged by @01yoonjin to do ,, both of these tags if im not wrong,, and @maetaamong tagged me for the music shuffle tag and @hyuunjins tagged me for the kpop tag thingy aha
music shuffle tag
rules: put all of your phone’s music library – no playlists! – on shuffle. list the first ten songs that play. bold the song(s) that lift your mood and italicise the song(s) that makes you the most emotional. then tag ten people!
mad city - nct 127
campfire - svt
us now - vixx
hold me tight - bts
talk me down - troye sivan
paradise - nct 127
too good - troye sivan
grr 총량의 법칙 - skz
another world - nct 127
blue - troye sivan ft alex hope
kpop tag
rules: answer the questions!
1) 5 favorite groups?
skz
nct
nuest
sf9
w1
2) Top 5 on your bias list? (no particular order)
hyunjin
(lee) chan
(lee) mark
chanhee
jr (jonghyun)
3) Ult Bias group and why you love them?
oof ok i,,, dont know? im not the type to actually Stay ulting a group?? like ill stan then ,,, then,, get into another grp,,, yeah,,,, im not v loyal aa my friends always ask what grps i stan and im liek ,,,,, idk,,,, i stan a Lot,,, (that was a real convo between a new friend i made weeks ago) but i guess,, atm its skz? their music is,, my taste? like the meaning of it nd all,, and uh theyre also v v fun to b with,, there isnt a moment when i dont smile whenever i see one of their vids or during their vlives :”) tbh what i like the most in groups i stan is their humor lmao,,, like if theyre v funny, i automatically love them even more :”))
4) Ult Bias and why you love them?
again,,, idk man,, i dont think i even Ult hAHHA ok but i ,, rlly like bae jinyoung nd chani hHAHHA ok but also ,,,, hyunjin. that boy,,,,, id do anything for him tbh ,, also bjy wasnt even mentioned in 2 but,,, i rlly love him ,, like idk,, i dont stan w1 as much now but ,, whenever i see him im like :-))))) (same goes for chani aa) fiuwe idk y i like them sm tho aa
5) Favorite Kpop Meme
iiiiii dont have any guawdeij
6) Favorite pic of your ult? (I dare you to only pick one)
ok what,,, i dont even know my ult hAHAH
7) 5 Favorite Kpop MVs
dont stop - twice (this is in jap tho,, does it count?)
nuest - daybreak
blooming days - exo cbx
you&me - kisum
go - nct dream
8) 10 Favorite Kpop songs?
vivid - loona/heejin
heart attack - loona/chuu
singing in the rain - loona/jinsoul
scentist - vixx
boss - nct u
rollercoaster - chungha
shine - pentagon
blooming days - exo cbx
trigger - vixx
my valentine - vixx
nd a lot more auief
9) Favorite Kpop crack video?
oof i dont watch crack often-
10) Favorite content creator within the fandom?
all of them!! :”)
11) What fandoms would you say you’re an active member of?
aa atm the sk fandom !! i was q active in the svt fandom in my main blog but i dont make content anymore :-( i do want to b active in other grps (like nct nd sf9 nd mayb nuest) but i dont have enough Commitment to run other blogs at the same time :”)))
12) Take your top 3 biases- fmk
these arent my top 3 but-
F(riendly convo with) - murk leeeee
M - oof tbh id marry seungcheol or mingYU OmG :-)))))))) hes not my bias but ,, hes such husband material tbh ,,,,,,,,
K - lee chan bc he,, keeps Killing me w those looks even when im tryna stan another grp ughrei
13) If you could be best friends with any idol, who would you choose?
chani? or chenle!! for chani ,, we’re q similar nd we both like chicken !!!!!!!!!!!! so yes. for chenle ,, we’re also kinda similar but we def have the same humor ,,, which is always great :^)))))
14) If you could date any idol, who?
hm,,, tbh these days ive been feeling Soft for mark (lee) nd !! also bjy ,,,, ahHa im sorry hyunjin yshvriIHFED
15) What’s one Kpop album you think everyone should have listened to?
vixx - eau de vixx bc nO ONE i know talks abt it :-((((
16) Are you a soft or a hard stan?
swoft??? or medium idK HAHAH
17) An idol that makes you go into soft mode?
100% hyunjin,,, Also bjy.
18) An idol that makes you want to smash the empire state building with one single punch?
o man is also hyunjin aLSO mark lee :-))))))))))
19) Favorite vocalist?
oof hm,, defo seungkwan ,,, seokmin,,, basically svt’s vocal team :-))) oOF reading this again ,, yo haechan???? God tier vocals,,, pls stan nct :-)))
20) Favorite Rapper?
oo ok so i watched high school rapper nd i really like osshun? nd oH bang jaemin :”) aa i need to watch s2 soon jgafiue
in terms of idols, defo 3racha,,, theyre So Good uiahrfiu
21) Favorite dancer?
aAA in terms of girls: cHUNGHA!! for boys its ,, basically all of svt performance team nd,, ten and taeyong- (i like a lot of dancers its hard to choose ifajoiwe)
22) Things you have in common with your ult?
ok i,, dk my ult but ill just do it w the idols i put in in that q - for hyunjin i feel like we ,, both struggle w cooking lmAo nd have troubles waking up early :”) ,, actually now that i think abt it,, were both v quiet nd shy but when u get to know us? were v Loud nd savage (same w bjy nd chani) also again ,, chani likes chicken, i do too so :-)))))))
23) The mot beautiful trait any idol can have?
hm,, confidence? it takes a lot for someone to just go on stage and sing/dance etc,, like i would Never b able to do that- (proven today: had a skit and had a shaky voice the whole time , also laughed alot oops)
24) Songs that will always make you jam along?
vIVID by heejin nd singing in the rain by jinsoul nD ALL THE OTHER LOONA SONGS-
also rock by skz !!!!! nd nd omg rollercoaster by chungha nd,,, scentist by vixx nd many others hAHAH
25) Your worst wrecker?
in skz its ,,,,,,,, ***** :-)) also nomin have been wrecking me these days ,, rip
26) Any kpop concerts you’ve been to?
0 bc my parents wont let me :-(
27) Favorite choreo?
there r too many-
28) Favorite live performance?
also too many- but i do like concert performances where the fans sing along too- like those Hit me in the feels everytime (eg: smile flower - svt!!!) iahfnie (does this even count lmao)
29) Favorite debut mv?
adore u- svt !! (3rd anniv coming up ihHIWU)
30) Recommend a rookie group
skz obv, loona, unb ,, (g)i-dle !!
31) A kpop song you could listen to every day for the rest of your life?
there is a Lot but prob vivid - heejin hAHAH I RLLY LIKE THAT SONG AUWIFHIAU
20 question tag!
rules: answer 20 questions and then tag twenty people you want to get to know better
i was tagged by em !! @realstraykids (´∀｀)♡
name: hazirah (oo name reveal :^))
nickname(s): haz
zodiac sign: scorpio
height: i am smoller than em ,, barely 5 feet :-)))))))))
languages spoken: ok ,, eng, malay, arabic, uuuh tiiiiiny bit of chinese and im now (kind of) self learning korean :^)
nationality: singaporean
favourite season: ok we dont have fall in sg,, but fall !!
favourite flowers: baby’s breath!
favourite scents: the scent of fried chicken :-)) or fresh laundry ,,, also petrol smell :-)
favourite color: i answered above but yellow, peach nd black
favourite animal: shiba inus !!
favourite fictional characters: mmmm kacchan nd aizawa nD TODOROKI IFIAEUR HOW COULD I FORGET HIM O Mg frm bnha !! also baz nd simon frm the book carry on, simon by raindow rowell (one of my fav books tbh) ,,,, also tanaka frm tanaka kun is always listless bc hes goals tbh. ALSO oMg USUI TAKUMI FRM KAICHOU WA MAID SAMA OH MY GODUIHF
coffee, tea, or hot chocolate: ok in cold countries i Always get hot chocolate,, here in sg i always get green tea,, or ice lemon tea sometimes :-)))
average sleeping hours: 5-6
dog or cat person: both but more towards cats tbh
number of blankets you sleep with: 1
dream trip: the world !! or like japan/england ,,
blog established: feb 1 2018
followers: a number :-)
random fact: mmmmmmmm i broke my fast w two of my friends last night nd caught up w each other nd im v happy :-)))))
nd thats the end !! (not really,, theres like 2 slefie tags but i have 0 pics oops) but if you read through all this,, congratulations,, you probably know me more than my classmates :-))))
#tagged#about haz :o#i actually wrote some of these beforehand#so idk how accurate this is hHAHA#also for the bias thing#im bad at explaining/elaborating so descriptions r short nd stuff#i apologise ayugfbuwe
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During the latest live episode of Big Brother 23, Sarah Beth Steagall was evicted from the game. She sat alongside her best ally Kyland Young on the block. Sarah was ultimately evicted by a vote of 5-1. In her goodbye messages, Kyland revealed some information which let Sarah in on what was really going on inside the house.
Sarah Beth and Kyland were originally nominated by Tiffany Mitchell, who won her first Head of Household reign last week. Unfortunately for Tiffany, her HOH reign was secretly overthrown by the winner of the Coin of Destiny. Luckily, Claire Rehfuss, who is closely aligned with Tiffany, won the final High Rollers’ Room casino game. Claire ultimately chose to renominate Sarah Beth and Kyland. Neither of the two nominees won the Power of Veto, which caused them both to remain on the block come eviction night.
Related: Big Brother: How Kyland Young Is Getting On The Cookout’s Bad Side
Although Sarah Beth and Kyland became extremely close while playing the game, so much so they caused rumors of a secret showmance, Sarah Beth did not fully know everything about Kyland’s game. In fact, he was actually lying to her for a majority of the game. When she was evicted, Kyland, somewhat, revealed his truth to her in his goodbye message. Kyland explained that a secret alliance he had been working with would not allow him to take her any farther in the game. Viewers know he is referring to the dominating six-person Cookout alliance. This left Sarah Beth wondering who he is so closely aligned with. According to Us Weekly, Sarah Beth is confident that Azah Awasum is a part of Kyland’s alliance due to what she said in her goodbye message. She is also nearly positive that Xavier Prather is working with them as well.
As for how large this secret alliance is, Sarah Beth was not too sure. She questioned whether or not Tiffany Mitchell, or any other remaining houseguests, are in the alliance as well. Sarah Beth also began to piece more information together based off of Azah’s subtle remark regarding a “mission” inside the house. She said, “So, putting all of those things together, I’m guessing that there is a secret alliance with the goal of having the first Black winner of Big Brother, which I think is really cool.” Upon joining Britini D’Angelo and Derek Xiao in the jury house, Sarah Beth will be taking some time to gather her thoughts in order to to piece together more information regarding this secret alliance. Although many houseguests have hinted at the alliance, most of the Cookout members have avoided revealing the alliance in their goodbye messages.
What Sarah Beth does not yet know is there are actually six people in this alliance. Although she named four correct members, she forgot to mention Derek Fraizer and Hannah Chaddha. In the jury house, Britini and Derek have already begun realizing the truth of what was going on inside the house. When Sarah Beth joins them, the group of three jurors may be able to fully piece together the secret alliance.
Next: Big Brother: Which Game Strategies Julie Chen Moonves Hates Watching
Big Brother 23 airs Sundays, Wednesdays & Thursdays at 8pm EST on CBS.
Source: Us Weekly
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Tagged by the wonderful @chambcrofechocs and I nominate who ever wants to do this but please tag me so I can get to know you better
Name: Macayla
Star sign: Cancer 🦀
Height: 5’8 use to be 5’10 before my two back surgeries
What’s your middle name: Funny enough my middle name is Macayla. My first however is Ellen. I’ve been called Macayla my whole life and whenever someone asks why I usually just say my parents hate me lol. My Ellen is the namesake of my great grandmother who is my heart and soul.
Put your Itunes on shuffle. What are the first 4 songs that popped up?
1. Cute Is What We Aim For: Curse of the Curves
2. Melanie Martinez: Milk and Cookies
3. Panic! At the Disco: C’mon(ft. Fun)
4. Jeff Buckley: Hallelujah
5. Panic! At the Disco: Memories
Grab the book nearest you and turn to page 23. What’s line 17?
The labours of men of genius, however erroneously directed, scarcely ever fail in ultimately turning to the solid advantage of mankind.
-Sensational Tales of Terror: Penny Dreadfuls-Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus(Mary Shelley)
Have you ever had a poem or song written about you?
Not that I know f buuuuut I have written a poem for a crush slash best friend and even embarrassingly presented it to the class. Luckily I was smart enough to change the name from my crush’s to the name Dean.
When’s the last time you played air guitar?
Yeesh I’m not really sure.... I’m more of a head banger or drummer 🤘🏼😝
Who is your celebrity crush?
I’m am in ACTUAL love with Jason Momoa. Like the man is everything. He is a modern day pioneer man while also being a huge dork be best part is he’s a family and it’s just everything I look for in a partner.
But also I love and adore Shield Babies🖤 aka Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and sweet ol Seth Rollins
A sound I love....
Hmmm🤔 Thunder and rain. The sounds of my fans when I go to sleep. And the sound a song will make right before the beat drops.
Do I believe in ghosts?
Well religiously speaking I’m not supposed but if we’re supposed to believe in Angels and such isn’t that just another form of a ghost🤷🏼♀️
How about aliens?
If you think about it we are just a spec of dust out of a ginormous universe. It’s ignorant and egotistical to believe we are the only life form out there.
Do you drive?
Yes
If so, have you ever crashed?
Fender Benders sure. And I’ve been in both the giving and receiving end. However right before family vacation this year, I nearly got into a fatal accident with half my family and dogs in the car. My guardian angel was for sure watching out for me because the car misses us by INCHES!!!
What was the last book you read?
For school- A databasing textbook
For leisure- The Midnight Club by Christopher Pike my ALL TIME FAVORITE BOOK
Do you like the smell of gasoline?
Actually I kind don’t mind it.
What’s the last movie you saw?
Ant-Man and the Wasp if we’re talking theaters
On tv.... Avatar
What’s the worst injury you’ve ever had?
Well I’ve had a lot of genetic problems that have had to be corrected with surgery and physical therapy. But to date I would say my last major back surgery. Before I had my procedure, I had a lot of nerve damage in my legs like I couldn’t walk unassisted and I definitely couldn’t drive myself. After the surgery I was prepared for the recovery. Legs are great now but I’m still working on my back issues.
Do you have any obsessions?
My new Yorkshire puppy Octavia and binge watching the Arrow. Also mozzarella sticks and sweet tea from Sonic Drive Thru.
Do you tend to hold grudges against people who have done you wrong?
I’d probably hold a grudge more so if you did someone I love wrong. As for me..... if the person has genuinely changed and learned from it, I tend to forgive and forget.
In a relationship: Helllll no! I’m a single little Pringle, looking for her Jason Momoa or Dean Ambrose, whichever comes first 🤷🏼♀️
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Hal Holbrook, Actor Who Channeled Mark Twain, Is Dead at 95
Hal Holbrook, who carved out a substantial acting career in television and film but who achieved his widest acclaim onstage, embodying Mark Twain in all his craggy splendor and vinegary wit in a one-man show seen around the world, died on Jan. 23 at his home in Beverly Hills, Calif. He was 95.
His death was confirmed by his assistant, Joyce Cohen, on Monday night.
Mr. Holbrook had a long and fruitful run as an actor. He was the shadowy patriot Deep Throat in “All the President’s Men” (1976); an achingly grandfatherly character in “Into the Wild” (2007), for which he received an Oscar nomination; and the influential Republican Preston Blair in Steven Spielberg’s “Lincoln” (2012).
He played the 16th president himself, on television, in Carl Sandburg’s “Lincoln,” a 1974 mini-series. The performance earned him an Emmy Award, one of five he won for his acting in television movies and mini-series; the others included “The Bold Ones: The Senator” (1970),his protagonist resembling John F. Kennedy, and “Pueblo” (1973) in which he played the commander of a Navy intelligence boat seized by North Korea in 1968.
Mr. Holbrook was a regular on the 1980s television series “Designing Women.” He played Willy Loman in “Death of a Salesman,” Shakespeare’s Hotspur and King Lear, and the Stage Manager in Thornton Wilder’s “Our Town.”
But above all he was Mark Twain, standing alone onstage in a rumpled white linen suit, spinning an omnisciently pungent, incisive and humane narration of the human comedy.
Mr. Holbrook never claimed to be a Twain scholar; indeed, he said, he had read only a little of Twain’s work as a young man. He said the idea of doing a staged reading of Twain’s work came from Edward A. Wright, his mentor at Denison University in Granville, Ohio. And Mr. Wright would have been the first to acknowledge that the idea had actually originated with Twain himself — or rather Samuel Clemens, who had adopted Mark Twain as something of a stage name and who did readings of his work for years.
Mr. Holbrook was finishing his senior year as a drama major in 1947 when Mr. Wright talked him into adding Twain to a production that Mr. Holbrook and his wife, Ruby, were planning called “Great Personalities,” in which they would portray, among others, Robert and Elizabeth Barrett Browning, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins, and Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.
Mr. Holbrook had doubts at first. “Ed, I think this Mark Twain thing is pretty corny,” he recalled telling Mr. Wright after the first rehearsals. “I don’t think it’s funny.”
But Mr. Wright prevailed upon him to stay with it, and in 1948 the character came along when the Holbrooks took to the road with a “Great Personalities” touring production.
They first tried the Twain sketch before an audience of psychiatric patients at the veterans hospital in Chillicothe, Ohio — a circumstance Mr. Holbrook explains only vaguely in his 2011 memoir, “Harold: The Boy Who Became Mark Twain.” In the sketch, Mr. Holbrook’s cantankerous Twain was interviewed by Ruby Holbrook:
“How old are you?”
“Nineteen in June.”
“Whom do you consider the most remarkable man you ever met?”
“George Washington.”
“But how could you have ever met George Washington if you’re only nineteen years old?”
“If you know more about me than I do, what do you ask me for?”
The patients stared straight ahead — “No one was looking at us,” Mr. Holbrook wrote — and guffawed at the laugh lines, proving that “the guys in the ward were saner than they looked” and that the material had legs.
The Twain piece became their most popular sketch over the next four years, as the couple crisscrossed the country performing for schoolchildren, ladies’ clubs, college students and Rotarians.
Mr. Holbrook began developing his one-man show in 1952, the year Ms. Holbrook gave birth to their first child, Victoria. He soon looked the part, with a wig to match Twain’s unruly mop, a walrus mustache and a rumpled white linen suit, the kind Twain himself wore onstage. From his grandfather, Mr. Holbrook got an old penknife, which he used to cut the ends off the three cigars he smoked during a performance (though he was not sure whether Twain ever smoked onstage). He sought out people who claimed to have seen and heard Twain, who died in 1910, and listened to their recollections.
He had more or less perfected the role by 1954, the year he began a one-man show titled “Mark Twain Tonight!” at Lock Haven State Teachers College in Pennsylvania.
Two years later he took his Twain to television, performing on “The Ed Sullivan Show” and “The Tonight Show.” In the meantime he had landed a steady job in 1954 on the TV soap opera “The Brighter Day,” on which he played a recovering alcoholic. The stint lasted until 1959, when, tiring of roles he no longer cared about, he opened in “Mark Twain Tonight!” at the Off Broadway 41st Street Theater.
By then the metamorphosis was complete. With his shambling gait, Missouri drawl, sly glances and exquisite timing, Hal Holbrook had, for all intents and purposes, become Mark Twain.
“After watching and listening to him for five minutes,” Arthur Gelb wrote in The New York Times, “it is impossible to doubt that he is Mark Twain, or that Twain must have been one of the most enchanting men ever to go on a lecture tour.”
But for Mr. Holbrook, the Mark Twain guise he put on every night was a mask; behind it, he wrote in his memoir, was a lonesomeness that had plagued his early life, beginning when his parents abandoned him as a small child. As an adult he found his marriage, his fatherhood and even his stage life caught in an existential deadlock, with “survival and suicide impulses working in tandem.” His escape, he said, was punishing amounts of work, not to mention the company of friends like Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn.
In his memoir, Mr. Holbrook described an emotional low point in the early 1950s. He was sitting in a hotel room at the end of a long day, still undecided about doing an all-Mark Twain show and feeling lost, when he began rereading “Tom Sawyer” for the first time since high school.
“You heard the voices coming right off the page,” he wrote. “This was a surprise, and after a while I began to feel pleasant with myself and that was a surprise, too. Bitterness receded and in its place a boy came crowding in, his friends came in and his family, and it wasn’t very long before I did not feel so lonely anymore. Mark Twain had cheered me up.”
Harold Rowe Holbrook Jr. was born on Feb. 17, 1925, in Cleveland. He was 2 years old when his parents left him. His mother, the former Aileen Davenport, ran off to join the chorus of the revue “Earl Carroll’s Vanities.” Harold Sr. went to California after leaving young Hal in the care of grandparents in South Weymouth, Mass.
The young Mr. Holbrook spent his high school years at the Culver Military Academy in Indiana and then enrolled at Denison to major in the dramatic arts, but his education was interrupted by service as an Army engineer during World War II. He was stationed for a while in St. John’s, Newfoundland, where he joined an amateur theater group and met Ruby Elaine Johnston, who became his first wife. The couple returned to Denison after the war, and Mr. Holbrook soon became Mr. Wright’s prize student.
After he became an established attraction in the United States, Mr. Holbrook took “Mark Twain Tonight!” to Europe, performing in Britain, Germany and elsewhere. German audiences roared when he presented Twain’s view of Wagnerian opera: “I went to Bayreuth and took in ‘Parsifal.’ I shall never forget it. The first act occupied two hours and I enjoyed it, in spite of the singing.”
Mr. Holbrook toured the country with the show several times a year, racking up well over 2,000 performances. He compiled an estimated 15 hours of Twain’s writings, which he dipped into whenever his routine needed refreshing. He won a Tony Award in 1966 for his first Broadway run in “Mark Twain Tonight!”
Mr. Holbrook was 29 when he started playing Twain at 70; as he grew older, he found he needed less and less makeup to look elderly. He continued the act well past his own 70th birthday, returning to Broadway in 2005, when he was 80.
After playing Twain for more than six decades, he abruptly retired the role in 2017. “I know it must end, this long effort to do a good job,” he wrote in a letter to the Oklahoma theater where he had been scheduled to perform. “I have served my trade, gave it my all, heart and soul, as a dedicated actor can.”
Mr. Holbrook made his Broadway debut in 1961 in the short-lived “Do You Know the Milky Way?” He returned there in the musical “Man of La Mancha,” in Arthur Miller’s “After the Fall” and other plays.
His scores of television appearances included “That Certain Summer” (1972), a groundbreaking film in which he starred as a divorced man who must ultimately admit to his son that he has a gay lover (Martin Sheen). In the early 1990s he had a recurring role on the sitcom “Evening Shade.”
Mr. Holbrook’s many film roles tended to be small ones, although there were exceptions. One was as the mysterious informant Deep Throat in “All the President’s Men,” the 1976 film adaptation of the book by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein about the Watergate cover-up. Another was in “The Firm” (1993), based on John Grisham’s corporate whodunit, in which Mr. Holbrook played the stop-at-nothing head of a Memphis law firm.
His Oscar-nominated performance, in “Into the Wild,” directed by Sean Penn, was as a retired military man who has a desert encounter with a young man on a quest for self-knowledge that would ultimately take him to the Alaskan wilderness. His final screen roles were in 2017, when, at 92, he guest-starred in episodes of the television series “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Hawaii Five-0.”
Mr. Holbrook’s first marriage ended in divorce in 1965. In addition to their daughter, Victoria, they had a son, David. His second marriage, to the actress Carol Eve Rossen, ended in divorce in 1979. They had a daughter, Eve. In 1984 he married the actress Dixie Carter, who died in 2010.
He is survived by his children as well as two stepdaughters, Ginna Carter and Mary Dixie Carter; two grandchildren; and two step-grandchildren.
In adapting Mark Twain’s writing for the stage, Mr. Holbrook said he had the best possible guide: Twain himself.
“He had a real understanding of the difference between the word on the page and delivering it on a platform,” he told The San Francisco Chronicle in 2011. “You have to leave out a lot of adjectives. The performer is an adjective.”
Richard Severo, Paul Vitello and William McDonald contributed reporting.
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GAY MUSIC CHART – 2018 week 13
Welcome to the Gay Music Chart, the LGBTQA related music videos TOP 50 actuality and most request.
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Here is the recap for this week :
OUT : Troye Sivan - The Good Side (Live on SNL) (LW: 21 / WO: 8 / PEAK: 13)
OUT : Lauren Ruth Ward - Sideways (LW: 23 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 23)
OUT : Bilal Hassani - Shadows (LW: 24 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 24)
OUT : Bella Ćwir - Drogie Ciuchy (LW: 25 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 25)
OUT : VELO feat. Luisifer - Dancer (LW: 30 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 30)
OUT : djfriz feat. 마샬 (MRSHLL), 메건리 (Megan Lee) - Dive (English Version) (LW: 32 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 19)
OUT : Brandi Carlile - The Joke (LW: 34 / WO: 4 / PEAK: 20)
OUT : Pussy Riot & Dave Sitek - Bad Apples (LW: 35 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 35)
OUT : Aluta Humbane - Nami Ngithanda Indoda (LW: 37 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 37)
OUT : Boris Jelic - Freedom (Lyric Video) (LW: 41 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 41)
OUT : Eddy de Pretto - Normal (LW: 42 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 19)
OUT : Samir & Viktor - Shuffla (live @ Melodifestivalen Finale 2018) (LW: 43 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 43)
OUT : Ricky Martin feat. Wisin, Yandel - Fiebre (LW: 44 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 32)
OUT : Todrick Hall - Ordinary Day (LW: 46 / WO: 1 / PEAK: 46)
OUT : Peppermint and Cazwell - Blend (LW: 49 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 23)
01 (=) : Years & Years - Sanctify (LW: 01 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 01 (x2))
UK - 2018
Years & Years singer Olly Alexander says the band’s new single Sanctify is about straight men who experiment with gay sex.
02 (+ 24) : Ryan O'Shaughnessy - Together (LW: 26 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 02)
Ireland - 2018
This sweet ballad will represent Ireland at the Eurovision Song Contest 2018. The music video is so cute.
03 (+ 1) : Francisco Victoria - Marinos (LW: 03 / WO: 13 / PEAK: 03)
Chile - 2017
This is the first single of the Chilean singer, produced by Alex Anwandter. A revelation.
04 (- 1) : Troye Sivan - My My My! (LW: 03 / WO: 11 / PEAK: 01 (x3))
Australia - 2018
The first track of his upcoming album has topped at #3 at the Worldwide iTunes Song Chart. It's the eighth single of the Australian singer in a row to be #1 in our chart.
05 (+ 1) : Saara Aalto - Monsters (LW: 06 / WO: 7 / PEAK: 05)
Finland - 2018
This song will represent Finland at the Eurovision Song Contest 2018.
06 (+ 3) : Allie X feat. VÉRITÉ - Casanova (LW: 09 / WO: 13 / PEAK: 03)
Canada - 2017 / from the album "CollXtion II"
07 (- 5) : Janelle Monáe - Make Me Feel (LW: 02 / WO: 5 / PEAK: 02)
USA - 2018 / from the album "Dirty Computer"
08 (=) : Calum Scott - You Are The Reason (LW: 08 / WO: 18 / PEAK: 04)
UK - 2017
09 (- 2) : Sufjan Stevens - Mystery of Love ("Call Me By Your Name" OST) (LW: 07 / WO: 20 / PEAK: 01 (x1))
USA - 2017 / from the album ("Call Me By Your Name" OST)
The song was nominated for the Oscar of Best Original Song at the Academy Awards 2018.
10 (- 5) : Kylie Minogue - Dancing (LW: 05 / WO: 9 / PEAK: 01 (x3))
Australia - 2018 / from the album "Golden"
11 (- 1) : Eli Lieb - Next To You (LW: 10 / WO: 15 / PEAK: 02)
USA - 2017
12 (+ 28) : Troye Sivan - Strawberries & Cigarettes ("Love, Simon" OST) (LW: 40 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 12)
Australia - 2018 / from the album "Love, Simon" OST
13 (+ 2) : Matt Palmer - Inevitably (LW: 15 / WO: 7 / PEAK: 13)
USA - 2018 / from the EP "Get Lost"
14 (- 3) : Holland (홀랜드) - Neverland (네버랜드) (LW: 11 / WO: 9 / PEAK: 08)
South Korea - 2018
This is the first South Korean music video showing a gay couple kissing in a romantic way.
15 (+ 5) : Les Funambules (Maximilien Philippe) - Pardon (LW: 20 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 15)
France - 2018 - from the album "Les Funambules"
This song is the confession of a man who's quitting his wife because he realised he was gay.
16 (NEW) : Netta - Toy (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 16)
Israel - 2018
This song, made by gay composer Doron Medalie and his partner and producer Stav Beger, will represent Israel at the Eurovision Song Contest 2018. It is already by far the great favorite for fans and bookmakers.
17 (- 5) : Trevor Moran - Sinner (LW: 12 / WO: 16 / PEAK: 01 (x2))
USA - 2017
18 (+ 29) : SAKIMA - Daddy (LW: 47 / WO: 15 / PEAK: 14)
UK - 2017
19 (- 3) : Kevin Chomat - Petite Fée (LW: 16 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 16)
France - 2018
The French singer has made a song to support Lana, a young girl who has a rare genetic disease called neurofibromatosis.
20 (NEW) : Q-Tip feat. Demi Lovato - Don't Go Breaking My Heart (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 20)
USA - 2018
21 (NEW) : CRIMER - I Won't Fall In Love (Live at Openair St.Gallen 2017) (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 21)
Switzerland - 2018
22 (+ 16) : Bagarre - Danser seul (ne suffit pas) (LW: 38 / WO: 11 / PEAK: 10)
France - 2018 / from the album "Club 12345"
Several drag queens are featuring in the music video of this French Touch house music.
23 (- 10) : Virgin Suicide - Evil Eyes (LW: 13 / WO: 16 / PEAK: 05)
Denmark - 2017
This Danish music video is like a short movie, telling the struggles of a closeted gay teen taken by his father to a fathers-sons's camp.
24 (NEW) : SSION feat. Ariel Pink - At Least The Sky Is Blue (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 24)
USA - 2018 / from the album 'O'
25 (- 11) : Nakhane - Interloper (LW: 14 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 14)
South Africa - 2018 / from the album "You Will Not Die"
We supports the South African singer and actor, who is threatened to death for portraying a gay character in the movie "Inxeba / The Wound", which has been banned for a while in South Africa.
26 (+ 19) : Calum Scott - What I Miss Most (1 Mic 1 Take/Live From Abbey Road Studios) (LW: 45 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 26)
UK - 2018 / from the album "Only Human"
27 (+ 23) : Openside - I Feel Nothing (LW: 50 / WO: 7 / PEAK: 11)
New Zealand - 2017
Lead singer Possum Plows, who is gender non-binary, raises the transgender flag in this music video. In her new song, Hayley is wondering why the girl she's dating is dating also another guy in the same time. "Expectations" will be released on March 30, 2018.
28 (NEW) : Todrick Hall feat. RuPaul - Dem Beats (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 28)
USA - 2018 / from the album "Forbidden"
29 (+ 19) : Hayley Kiyoko - Curious (LW: 48 / WO: 11 / PEAK: 08)
USA - 2018 / from the album "Expectations"
In her new song, Hayley is wondering why the girl she's dating is dating also another guy in the same time. "Expectations" will be released on March 30, 2018.
30 (NEW) : VELO feat. Melissa BeFierce - Perra (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 30)
USA - 2018
31 (NEW) : Cheese On Bread - Bad Friend (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 31)
USA - 2018 / from the album "The One Who Wanted More"
This queer music video depicts a sexual harassement scene.
32 (- 10) : MNEK - Tongue (LW: 22 / WO: 4 / PEAK: 22)
UK - 2018
33 (+ 3) : Michael Blume - Blunder (LW: 36 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 23)
USA - 2018
34 (- 5) : Chase Sansing - Begins With You (LW: 29 / WO: 4 / PEAK: 22)
USA - 2018
The country singer comes out with this pride anthem.
35 (- 18) : La Prohibida - Baloncesto (LW: 17 / WO: 35 / PEAK: 03)
Spain / from the album "100K años de luz"
The drag queen joined Madrid’s Three Kings float, but traditionalists didn't like it.
36 (+ 3) : Trixie Mattel - Break Your Heart (LW: 39 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 36)
USA - 2018 / from the album "One Stone"
37 (NEW) : REIKA by Daniel Robinson / Björk - Jóga (Howie B Main Mix) (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 37)
USA - 2018
38 (NEW) : Happy Little Clouds - Beneath (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 38)
USA - 2018
This is their first music video.
39 (- 8) : CRIMER - Cards (LW: 31 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 31)
Switzerland - 2018 / from the album "Leave Me Baby"
40 (- 7) : Namuel - Poder (LW: 33 / WO: 5 / PEAK: 25)
Chile - 2018
41 (NEW) : Alice Caymmi, Pabllo Vittar - Eu Te Avisei (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 41)
Brazil - 2018
42 (NEW) : Osvaldo Supino - Amati (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 41)
Italy - 2018 / taken from the album "Resolution"
43 (NEW) : Jordan LeShea - Alone (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 43)
USA - 2018
44 (- 16) : Patrick Wolf - The Days (fan video) (LW: 28 / WO: 9 / PEAK: 07)
UK - 2017 / from the album "God’s Own Country OST"
The multi-awarded movie was nominated in 2 categories at the BAFTA Awards 2017, including Best Outstanding British Film.
45 (- 26) : Courtney Barnett - Need A Little Time (LW: 19 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 19)
Australia - 2018 / from the album "Tell Me How You Really Feel"
46 (- 28) : morgxn - Translucent (LW: 18 / WO: 3 / PEAK: 18)
USA - 2018
47 (NEW) : teo entertainment - Легко / Easy (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 47)
Russia - 2018
48 (NEW) : Lycinaïs Jean - Parfait Tourment (Version radio Edit) (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 48)
France - 2018 / from the album "Lycinaïs Jean"
49 (NEW) : Victoria Solé - Te Amo (LW: - / WO: 1 / PEAK: 49)
Uruguay - 2018
50 (- 23) : Jinkx Monsoon - Just Me (The Gender Binary Blues) (LW: 27 / WO: 2 / PEAK: 27)
USA - 2018 / from the album "The Ginger Snapped"
ALSO NEW THIS WEEK
Larva - Para Javier
2018 - Mexico / from the album "Trágicos Cuentos de Amor"
Javiera Mena feat. Li Saumet - Intuición
Chile - 2018
Max Tejera Feat. Goro Gocher - Tebas (Homenaje a Dani Umpi)
Uruguay - 2018
Matt Fishel - Soldiers
UK - 2018 / from the album "M/F"
Handsome - Save Some Love
Australia - 2018
Bleachers - Alfie's Song (Not So Typical Love Song)
USA - 2018 / from the album "Love, Simon" OST
Evripidis and His Tragedies - 1959
Spain - 2018
Sons of an Illustrious Father - Extraordinary Rendition
USA - 2018
of Montreal - Plateau Phase/No Careerism No Corruption
USA - 2018 / from the album "White Is Relic/Irrealis Mood"
Jeremy Gloff - I've Got Someone
USA - 2018 / from the album "Lightrail"
Candy Ken - ME AF
Austria - 2018
RuPaul feat. Trixie Mattel, Shangela, Kennedy & BeBe Zahara Benet - Kitty Girl
USA - 2018
These drag queens are the top four finalists of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 3.
Pentatonix - Attention
USA - 2018 - from the album "PTX Presents: Top Pop, Vol. I"
Shoshana Bean feat. Travis Wall - This is Me (cover)
USA - 2018
Jack and Joel - From the Start (Lyric Video)
UK - 2018
Paul Ryder - Uptown Funk (live @ Ireland's Got Talent 2018)
Ireland - 2018
Young M.A - Praktice (Official Audio)
USA - 2018
See you next week and don’t forget to vote for your best LGBTQA music videos ! Here are the rules :
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College Football 2020 Season Week 6 TV Watch Em Ups: Game of the year for this week
Everybody’s getting COVID eventually and by eventually I mean within the next six months. At least we won’t all die of it, right? Here’s to decades of aftermath. Might as well drink and piss away our money now. Today. Literally today. Last one to gamble away their last dollar is a fascist.
I’ve run into some formatting issues and I can’t promise they won’t affect the relative quality of this post. I’m still out here giving my shit away for free, though, so what can anybody expect?
Saturday, October 17
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile
Navy at East Carolina 12:00pm ESPN2
It still hasn’t really sunk in for me that the AAC doesn’t call CBS Sports Network home anymore. How can this game be on ESPN2? It’s wrong. This is a really bad game featuring two bottom twenty five teams but it’s my kind of bad game. I want to tell you that the Mids -3 is a pretty safe bet but then I remember I’m having expectations for this year’s Navy team and I scold my mind for even considering the words.
Texas State at South Alabama 12:00pm ESPNU
If you can actually focus on this game in any context long enough to realize it’s actually happening you need to get into some serious therapy. And welcome to our stupid little corner of dumb internet.
USF at Temple 12:00pm ESPN+
They’re off brand so not many people realize this but USF being in the far reaches of the lower tier of CFB programs is just a little bit silly. They don’t need to be in the hunt for the good bowl game every year but they should at least be an easy bowl selection. Here they’ll be blown out by a Temple team that isn’t particularly great even by Temple standards. That’s low.
1 Clemson at Georgia Tech 12:00pm ABC
Clemson and over, over and over. Clemson and over, over and over.
Liberty at Syracuse 12:00pm RSN/ESPN3
Syracuse is a home dog to Liberty. Holy shit. You’d think there could be a rock bottom but we’re still just falling towards it, aren’t we, Syracuse?
Pitt at 13 Miami (FL) 12:00pm ACCN
Everybody got off their little jokes and got to call Miami overrated because they were up at #7 before a truly belittling experience in South Carolina last week but I defy any of you to name seven legitimately good teams.
Kansas at West Virginia 12:00pm FOX
Is the fade KU strategy back in vogue? Because I feel like the fade KU strategy definitely should be back in vogue. WFV -22 as I write this, if you’re curious.
14 Auburn at South Carolina 12:00pm ESPN
This game surely means more. Than what, I can not say.
Kentucky at 18 Tennessee 12:00pm SECN
Reports of UTenn being back amongst the living may have been premature but Kentucky seems to be playing for draft picks.
WKU at UAB 1:30pm Stadium
UAB at -13.5 seems smart but you’ll have to watch on your phone or tablet to follow along closely.
Army at UTSA 1:30pm CBSSN
This game might belong on CBSSN but it has no place in anybody’s heart.
Jacksonville State at North Alabama 2:00pm ESPN3
Shit, this looks like absolute fucking torture.
Louisville at 4 Notre Dame 2:30pm NBC
Louisville may be the country’s most obvious dud ranking from the preseason but Notre Dame gave up 26 points to Florida State last week. I’m not going to go out in public and say Notre Dame is a good team less than a week after giving up 26 points to Florida State. That #4 ranking looks mighty circumstantial to my weary eyes.
UCF at Memphis 3:30pm ABC
Memphis really should have beaten SMU. I hope they can keep it together down the stretch this week against the people’s champs. If nothing else these two programs have played some wildly entertaining games against each other the last few years and a 75 point o/u with a 2.5-3 point spread says to me that bookmakers are expecting more of the same this time out. Look at what else is in this time slot and thank Disney for putting this one on national TV.
Eastern Kentucky at Troy 3:30pm ESPN3
What the fuck ever.
Mississippi at Arkansas 3:30pm SECN
The twists and turns of the heart are unpredictable. Pig sooie, motherfuckers.
Duke at NC State 3:30pm RSN/ESPN3
There are really only two teams in the ACC: Clemson and pain. To that end, Duke is never out of the race for the ... Coastal is it? division title. Fuck.
Virginia at Wake Forest 4:00pm ACCN
The bones are already dry before we even start when this game looks like a viable option for watching.
11 Texas A&M at Mississippi State 4:00pm ESPN
There are no good outcomes here in this game but there might be hilarity and schadenfeude. Those are always welcome in college football.
UMass at Georgia Southern 4:00pm ESPN2
Jesus fucking christ. Don’t these fucking assholes setting up worthless shit like this know there’s a pandemic raging in our stupid fuck country right now?
North Texas at Middle Tennessee 5:00pm Stadium
It keeps getting worse. Goddammit.
Angelo State at Stephen F. Austin 5:00pm ESPN3
What the fuck am I looking at here? This is supposed to be a post about college football games but there’s no such school as Angelo State so what the fuck is this shit? And it’s nominally being broadcast. Fuck. Is this a joke?
Marshall at Louisiana Tech 6:00pm CBSSN
OK, sure, I believe there’s a huge need out there in the world for this piece of shit event to actually take place.
5 North Carolina at Florida State 7:30pm ABC
Congratulations to Mack Brown on going home again and getting that little superscript in print next to the words “North Carolina” but there is still a long way to go before the reborn Tar Heels even can face Clemson. And there is no real way to earn a top 5 ranking in the ACC without beating Clemson. So that number doesn’t mean very much right now. Still, I mean it when I say it’s pretty amazing to even make it there since the program has been pretty much dregs since the last time Mack was there.
Boston College at 23 Virginia Tech 8:00pm ACCN
I just can’t bring myself to investigate whether or not the Hokies are actually good this year. I doubt I’ll do much investigating this week.
Central Arkansas at Missouri State 8:00pm ESPN3
People are actually willing to risk death just to participate in this thing.
3 Georgia at 2 Alabama 8:00pm CBS
Nick Saban has, as of this writing, been cured of COVID by Tim Tebow. Hopefully Tebow also cured the Bammers of being bad at defense. Of course, it really might not matter against Georgia since Kirby Smart is actively opposed to coaching a football game that might bring joy to viewers. Fuck it, Roll Tide -5 and the under (58.5.)
GAMES OF THE WEEK:
West Texas A&M at Abilene Christian Canceled
Southern Miss at UTEP Postponed
FIU at Charlotte Postponed
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