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SPN deleted scenes → 12.13 - Family Feud ↳ Rowena and Gavin catch up
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shallowseeker · 3 months
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They were stinkin' poor.
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Rowena's emotional, startled at connecting to this guy.
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Ahhhh, Rowena's emotions startle her. She's thawing over time so beautifully. She doesn't want to thaw. She doesn't want to! It's weakness, it's—
—so she refocuses on the ugly, the spiteful:
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12x13 Via @spnscripthunt
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citizenscreen · 2 months
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Darren McGavin and Debbie Reynolds on “The Love Boat” in 1980.
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You know, The MacLeods as a family were obviously fucked up in comparison to The Winchesters because of all the generational trauma, but the one area where they consistently succeeded where The Winchesters failed is that they never lied to one another about who they were. Crowley knew his mom was a manipulative witch who would latch onto anyone in power and influence to back her own. And Rowena knew her son didn’t give a damn about her aside from nursing a grudge for several decades. They hurt each other with blow after blow- Oskar, Gavin, etc. but they also helped each other by the occasional turn. But the entire time, they were 100% straight about only being there for their best interests, where The Winchesters would lie to themselves and each other constantly for the supposed sake of protecting one another, when all it did was cause more damage. The MacLeods did it right. Be straight up with each other about who you are and don’t lie about it otherwise more people get hurt by your good intentions. I have no choice but to Stan that about them.
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pretty-little-fools · 23 days
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hadesbullshit · 5 months
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My three weed smoking girlfriends (the Macloed family)
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erosioni · 11 months
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Gavin MacLeod, Andy Warhol on the set of Love Boat, 1985. 
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420technoblazeit · 1 year
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it's like. ok not to talk about rowena and crowley in family feud again but the thing that gets me is that rowena lets gavin call crowley and tell him where they are. and she only does that becaues she knows she can stop him from doing anything about it. it's so incredibly cruel to let him say goodbye and realize that there's nothing he can do. she literally freezes him in place so he can watch gavin walk away, and it's so awful and horrible. but crowley did the very same thing to her with oskar. and she never forgave him
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gotta say im loving the macleod family. might've gotten a little attached, even.
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becauseofthebowties · 2 years
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9.21 - King of the Damned • SPN Time Stamp Roulette (37/?) •
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xofemeraldstars · 1 year
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asking the important questions
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mthguy · 9 months
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The Mary Tyler Moore Show (1970-77)
The Mary Tyler Moore Show proved to be a groundbreaking series in the era of second-wave feminism; portraying a central female character who was neither married nor dependent on a man was a rarity on American television in the 1970s. The show has been celebrated for its complex, relatable characters and story lines. The Mary Tyler Moore Show received consistent praise from critics and high ratings during its original run and earned 29 Primetime Emmy Awards, including Outstanding Comedy Series three years in a row (1975–1977). Moore received the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series three times. The series also launched three spin-offs: Rhoda, Phyllis, and Lou Grant. In 2013, the Writers Guild of America ranked The Mary Tyler Moore Show No. 6 on its list of the "101 Best Written TV Series of All Time".
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citizenscreen · 1 year
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I couldn’t love and admire people more than I do these three.
Ed Asner (as Lou Grant), Ted Knight (as Ted Baxter), and Gavin MacLeod (as Murray Slaughter) from "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," in 1971.
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I know we have a lot of content about trauma in the SPN fandom but something I’ve never seen talked about on here is the generational trauma between Rowena, Crowley, and Gavin and how it shaped them. So I’m going in depth analysis on this shit. Please join me for the ride.
We know Rowena was a tanner’s daughter and a witch. Very likely, she was abused and ostracized by her father for her powers considering the way she raised Fergus. Since her mother is never mentioned it can be assumed she passed before she was born or earlier in her life. The imprint she has on her love map is one of abuse. So when Crowley’s father comes along, it’s likely the first time she’s experiencing love in her life. The light at the end of the tunnel is someone who can accept her for who she is and love her just the same, at the end of all her suffering.
When he abandons her to go back to his wife, she’s understandably devastated. This was the only form of love she had received, and it ended terribly for her- so why would she be able to treat her son that way? You can’t give what you never had. And when she does have him, he’s a built in weak spot for her. She’s a witch, so that’s already a mark against her. But this child is a target that’s easily exploitable. She can’t have that. She’s angry at herself for believing in love, angry at his father for abandoning her, angry at him for making her a target. So the only good thing she can think to do is gain power so that her weakness can’t be exploited that way. She abuses him because that’s what she knows. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t feel love for him, but she has no way to adequately express it. So there’s sarcasm and teaching him bits of magic as a way to show it. And, likely in her mind, leaving him behind in the workhouse. Because he wouldn’t be a target if he was left behind. Because she’s free of the persecution afterward and the vulnerability of her son being a target, it gives her the emotional space to develop genuine love and affection for Oskar.
Crowley suffered because of her inability to show affection. In his own words, he built his kingdom on it. And he treated his son Gavin the same way. But Gavin had the strength to forgive his father’s abuse where Crowley did not because he felt genuine love with Fiona. He’s the MacLeod that broke the cycle in that regard. With an ability to forgive.
Crowley and Rowena continue to punish each other- it’s what they know. Oskar is killed for a spell. Gavin is sent back to his own time. They bicker like cats and dogs. But it’s in the suffering after Gavin is sent back, after Crowley is dead, that you see the depths of their emotions for their family. None of them were taught how to love, but it was felt. Rowena wouldn’t have gone to such lengths to get Crowley back from the dead if she hadn’t felt it. In her own words, those were her choices, but it wasn’t fair to him. And she was right.
I know we talk about the trauma in this fandom, mostly in relation to Sam and Dean. But the two of them understand how to show love to one another- albeit unconventionally. We don’t talk about the generational trauma within the MacLeod family and we really should, because it’s something that happens to a lot of families. The abuse is inexcusable but it is explainable. Should we tolerate it? Absolutely not. But they are a prime example about why people stay in abusive relationships. They haven’t known anything different, or they believe people can change. It’s only after the death of her son that Rowena changes. That fundamental sense of love for him is there, but it wasn’t shown. Gavin is the only one to have the strength to forgive his father, but we only hear about it after he’s a ghost. And it shows the way grief grows and changes us.
Generational trauma impacts every area of our lives. It can make people worse or better, depending on how we respond to it or choose to break it. But if there’s one thing we can learn from the MacLeod family it’s that you will regret what you pass onto your children. They are an under appreciated cautionary tale, and that should be realized more than it is.
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pretty-little-fools · 6 months
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