#I'm ''Tobi'' btw

[sweetescapeartist]

You know, part of the reason why Marron's personality was terrible in GT was because she was possessed by Baby and the moments when she was mean to her father and had a terrible personality was were moments when she was under Baby's control. So yeah, you can blame her personalty being terrible all on Baby because she is seen doing and saying stuff that the real Marron would never do and say because she was obviously corrupted by Baby. She got better when she was released from his control.

Another similar ask by somebody else, or possibly the "Part 2" of this ask. [👇]

(Now to answer both asks...)

First of all... Shame on you for making me go back and watch some of GT in dub & sub! Jk. Well... kinda. I needed to research stuff about GT eventually. Plus, nowadays, I try to fact check everyone, even myself because we misremember things or overlook stuff. And doing research on GT 18 & GT Marron just validates why I hate the character depiction in GT. So, thank you & curse you? Lol.

Anyway, so I watched parts of the Baby Saga for clarification. Yes, Marron & 18 were infected by the Tuffle Parasite. But here's the thing... All the people infected by the parasite still behaved as themselves unless they were around unaffected/uninfected people like Goku, Pan, & Mr. Satan. When around them, infected ppl behaved with hostility. But when solely around other infected ppl like in DBGT EP 36, they behaved as normal & their personalities weren't drastically different. They just obeyed Baby's orders.

There's even a scene where Marron, Krillin, & 18 all got knocked back by a shockwave. Then, a scared Marron yelled for her dad & held on to him. GT Marron is rude to her father who she relies on for protection. What a trash character.

So, Marron being mean to Krillin was not Baby's influence. Because if Baby's influence made ppl meaner, then Krillin's personality would have changed as well. It did not. GT Krillin wasn't insulting his wife & daughter nor treating them harshly.

All blame does NOT fall upon Baby for Marron & 18's personality change.

All blame falls upon the GT writers who wrote for Marron's personality to be inconsiderate & selfish. Same for 18, who's personality was based off of the innacurate depiction of Android 18 from the DBZ filler that was written & overseen by Takao Koyama. And since the GT writers based GT 18's personality off of OOC filler, then of course they would make GT Marron have an OOC personality as well.

The GT versions of 18 & Marron are simply written to be inconsiderate towards Krillin. But that IS NOT how Toriyama wrote them. That is how Krillin haters wrote them; the Toei writers who learned from the head DBZ writer & Krillin hater, Takao Koyama. And the suspected Krillin haters that were the Funimation writers who purposefully made the terrible character depiction even worse than the original by making 18 & Marron even more hateful.

And lets not forget GT EP 40. This is after they are free from Baby's control. Marron & 18 behaved worse when not under Baby's control. In both dub & sub, 18 & Marron don't want to hold Krillin's hand when they are teleporting from Earth to Planet Plant. Instead they have him carry their luggage. In the dub, 18 is extremepy rude and uncaring. Same for Marron who says if Krillin gets left behind, at least make sure they get their luggage. Who treats family like that? 18 & Marron only cared for Krillin after 17 killed him.

And the Funimation DUB made GT 17 & GT 18's interaction... weird. Meanwhile, the Japanese version is to a far lesser degree.

17 says he & 18 are "nakama." It can mean partner, fellow, or comrade. But in this context it means "We are nakama/We are the same." In this context, it means that 17 & 18 are both cybernetic beings & fall into the same category. It's more so meant to show that the mind controlled 17 is trying to get 18 to join him in doing Dr. Gero's objective of killing mankind. Which is why Krillin has to snap both of them back to reality & remind them they are not weapons for Gero anymore. They hated Gero and have more to live for now, like how 18 has a family. They don't have to serve Gero. They are free from him.

Then, the other fully robotic 17 from Hell overpowers GT 17's mind, makes him kill Krillin. Then, GT 18 & GT Marron actually show compassion for Krillin for the first time in the show. And GT 18's fit of rage towards 17 felt more like remorse and regret for treating Krillin badly when he was alive.

Anyway...

DRAGON BALL GT TRANSLATION DIFFERENCES:

• DBGT Episode 36 [Japanese]

*18 & Marron inconsiderately make Kuririn carry all their bags & boxes*

Kuririn: "Hey, are you going to buy something else?"

*Marron turns around angrily & yells*

Marron: "Of course! The price for us not going to Planet Tsufuru is a big one!"

{Are they making Krillin buy & carry a lot of stuff for them because they're upset they didn't get to go to Planet Tsufuru? That's messed up & undeserving.}

• DBGT Episode 36 [Funimation DUB]

*18 & Marron inconsiderately make Krillin carry all their bags & boxes*

Krillin: "Please tell me this is the last of what you need to buy today."

*Marron turns around angrily & yells*

Marron: "We need supplies! When they call us to the Tuffle planet, we want to be ready, don't we, dad!?"

• DBGT Episode 40 [Japanese]

Trunks: "Are you ready, everyone? Hold hands tightly with each other!"

*18 has a free hand on her hip*

18: "Why should we have to go there?"

Marron: "I don't want to go to that planet."

Kuririn: "Before you start complaining, why don't you at least carry your own luggage!?"

{Marron doesn't want to go to Planet Tsufuru now that she isn't under Baby's influence, but she & 18 are still inconsiderate & make Kuririn carry all the luggage. Krillin is understandably frustrated by 18 & Marron's lack of consideration. The inconsiderate actions of 18 & Marron remained the unchanged regardless of Baby's influence or lack of it. Not to mention that 18 didn't even at least put her hand on Krillin's shoulder as his hands were full with THEIR luggage. Instead, a stranger touches Krillin with an umbrella. Not even that guy places his hand on Krillin's shoulder. The GT writers suck.}

• DBGT Episode 40 [Funimation DUB]

Trunks: "Now everyone, grab your neighbor's hand!"

*18 has a free hand on her hip*

18 to Krillin: "You'll have to grab someone else's. Mine are taken."

Marron to Krillin: "If you get left behind, make sure you bring the luggage."

Krillin: "You two have some nerve! I get more respect from total strangers!" *sobs*

Both the Japanese and English versions of GT 18 & GT Marron are inconsiderate & rude towards Krillin. But, Funimation turns it up to 11 by making GT 18 & GT Marron absolutely hateful & abusive towards Krillin. The Funimation dub of GT is many times worse than the original Japanese version of GT.

This one of the main reasons why I love Dragon Ball Super so much. The character depiction of Krillin's family in Dragon Ball Super is accurate because the hateful writers at Toei aren't sabotaging Toriyama's work by constantly insulting Krillin and making 18 (& Marron) hateful towards Krillin. The DBS interpretation has been in line with how Toriyama writes K18's relationship. The proof is shown in DBS: Super Hero (a film Toriyama was extremely involved in, especially when it comes to dialogue) where we see that 18 greatly respects & loves Krillin.

There. Full context & full explanation as to why I hate GT 18 & GT Marron.

I love 18 & Marron, especially so in the DB manga & DBS anime! But, GT 18 & GT Marron? Those two act like some bitches. And Tobi says,

Link to another post where I add context & show the differences of the Sub & Dub as well as how the Toei & Funimation script writers of DBZ & DBGT wrote 18 OOC in unnecessary filler scenes. [Link]

#anon #ask #Marron #GT Marron #Android 18 #GT Android 18 #Krillin #GT Krillin #Kuririn #DBGT #Dragon Ball GT #GT sucks at accurately depicting characters #GT Marron is trash #GT Android 18 is trash #GT had good music for their openings and endings in Japanese tho #I'm ''Tobi'' btw #also I don't use much harsh language like that unless I'm really mad #don't mind shirtless Tobi #just practicing drawing the body

[ladybugkisses]

it suddenly got really cold again and this is how i'm coping with it

#i'm 100% projecting on Toby btw i also hate putting on more than one layer of clothing :'^) #lackadaisy #lackadaisy oc #rocky rickaby #selfinsert #selfship #art tag #he is in fact not being strangled- just dramatic

[curdled-blood]

Wolfclaw sketches featuring Toby and Nat <33

Angy

I was thinking about her design and was curious about what her hair would look like in a ponytail so boom :)

Pov: your friend just turned back from a feral ass werewolf and doesn't remember a damn thing I just realized I forgot her choker FUCK.

When it's a full moon and Wolfclaw's body fully shifts, Toby likes to call it Behemoth mode.... for some reason 💀

To clarify: Toby draw himself riding on the back of "Behemoth" wolfclaw,,..,

#curdled art #Lu Pines is wolfclaw's real name btw #Creepypasta oc #creepypasta #toby rogers #clockwork #natalie ouellette #wolfclaw #lu pines #I like 2 imagine lu and Toby as friends I'm sorry.. #Also plz notice that Toby signed his art the same way I did../nforc/silly #curdled headcanons #< just in case???

[cassmouse]

Okay so I've been rewatching The Simpsons and...

Reference?? Unintentional?? Just the same sort of dance?? Coincidence??

#I'm turning into game theory with this one #what's toby tryna say with this #am I dim or #anyway I saw this in the episode and immediately thought of ralsei #this is season 13 episode 4 btw #anyway yeah #deltarune #toby fox #gif #ralsei #ralsei deltarune #mr burns #the simpsons

[askticcitobyshit]

I think you guys broke her

It's been a rough last couple of years, but it's nice to be back! We missed you guys too!

#Ticci Toby #creepypasta #ask #Can you guys tell I drew this on my phone at work?..... #I was too excited to wait until I got home to draw a response LMAO #I CANT BELIEVE PEOPLE REMEMEBR ME #AND THAT I WAS PEOPLE'S CHILDHOOD ASDFFKLKS BBN #I'm literally about to cry #I'm still at work btw LMAO #Creepypasta fanart #creepypasta ask blog #toby rogers #Shiv #Chevonne Rojas

[midnight197]

My current Team in Monster Hunter Stories 2 :3

They're not all fixed yet, it kinda depends what kind of Monsters I'll still find.

The ones I wanna keep fix tho is Ratha, Armitox, Zenith and Fury

#Screenshot #Monster Hunter #Monster Hunter Stories 2 #rathalos #pukei pukei #tobi kadachi #Arzuros #royal ludroth #nargacuga #I have no idea how far I am in the Story right now #I hope I'm not to close to the end yet tho xD #I don't like the Hunter Boy btw #He and his Cat are annoying #I also ordered a Pukei Pukei Keychain yesterday! #I wanted a Plush but they're either very expensiv or not available anymore #sobs

[emiliosandozsequence]

i think part of the reason i hate this show so much is because the family reminds me so much of mine

#the fake version my family thinks they are anyway #will robinson is annoying as all shit bc i just Know that's who my brother thought he was when he watched this #and i can't even like judy despite the fact she's taylor russell bc she reminds me of my sister #the only ones of them i like are penny and john bc penny is treated like crap by all of them and john is toby stephens #emilio.txt #i'm watching lost in space btw

[pyromaniac-cyndaquil]

Fucked up and evil that they dropped a new undertale within the week teal mask releases, AND I'm super sick all of a sudden so I can't even finish it first 😔

#(talking about the fangame ut yellow btw not like. an official toby fox thing. but it's full length and very cool) #as long as I'm not as bad as today (no sleep and feel HORRIFIC) tomorrow I'll definitely be starting teal mask after work tho #the constant war in my brain between pokemon and utdr... ruthless

[makuta-tobi]

Can y'all guess what I'm doing tonight

#you're getting the robot for selfies from now on btw #can't stand to see myself so bot pics it is #anyways I'm seeing shin kamen rider and I'm excited #selfie #tobi's shenanigans #bot pics

[crush-like-that]

we used to play pretend and imagine that we were in high school together, now you're texting me to tell me that you got into your dream college

#reminiscing again #time goes by so fast. it's crazy #i'm super emotional about this btw. like wow #tobi post #/personal

[leatherbootlace]

TrainTober2022 #04: Spirit

Story Blurb & Credits Below Cut

   I remember where I was when I last saw Glilah. Topham was having a word with me at Toryreck about how I needed to make a better example of myself to the younger Coffee Pots. And the minute he finishes his sentence, in xe comes, whistling for dear life for someone, anyone to help stop them before they crash before they were out of sight and into the horizon. I could have done something. I could have done anything and it might have saved them.

   Few minutes passed and we heard this horrible, blood-curdling shriek followed by what sounded like an avalanche. A couple of men ran up to us and said something had happened down at Knapford. At the time, I was practically biting at the nail to go and help, but looking back, it was all a blur. All I can think about that day is the look on Topham's face as his youngest engine went screaming into oblivion, and when he was forced to accept that xe couldn't be saved. We were built on the cheap side, you see? Put together on a hope and prayer. A.W.Dry didn't know jack about building engines. They just wanted something that would run. If any of us were to get wrecked, well... let's not talk about that, can we?

   They had to break Glilah up on site. Topham oversaw the operation. I have no idea how some engines can work in scrapyards, because just the sight of xyr remains made me sick to my boiler. I think a part of him died that day, amidst all the ice and snow as they cut xem up. Shortly after came the Great War, and then just crisis after crisis mounted on him. He was a kinder man back in the day - enough to call him a gentleman on his good days, at least - but Glilah's death was just the first in a series of crisis after crisis that tested him over the years. I rarely saw him in the last few years of his life, but I think he tried to get back in touch with his former self. At least, I hope so. I could never stand seeing him so sad.

       - Ex-TK&ELR No.1 'Glynn', "Memoirs of the Coffee Pot Railway"

Glynn has been a member of the Norramby Estate at Ulfstead Castle since the 1990s, and can regularly be found working demonstration lines at the Estate or along the Ffarquhar Branch Line.

Local legend around Dryaw says that on some nights in January, when the Moon is full, you can see Glilah's train race through the station again, on the way to xyr final resting place just outside Knapford Harbor. Most believe this to be nothing but local superstition, but some who claim to have encountered the spirit believe much, much different.

Original Sprites by Princess-Muffins , Cj-The-Creator , Diamond-Jubilee , SplendidEngine02 , RedEngineStudioNo5 & DemonOfNowhere .

Any & All Modifications made by Myself, LeatherBootlace .

#ttte #ttte au #traintober2022 #ttte coffee pots #rws #sprites #pixel art #ttte art #originally wanted to do something with toby encountering a coffee pot's spirit but couldn't come up with anything good #consider this like a lore post or something #just a little something niche #glilah is nonbinary and uses xe/xem pronouns btw #idk why but i like the idea of fat controller i being hardened by his troubles during his tenure only to soften by the time toby arrives #like yeah i love topham being a big softie towards his engines but the man Went Through Some Shit #also calling the tk&elr the 'coffee pot railway' because i like affectionate names for sodor ala gordon's hill or henry's tunnel #i dunno what i'm saying anymore i'm just tired and held off on posting this earlier because i had classwork i needed to finish up #Bootlace's TTTE AU

[emile-hides]

My mind is plagued by them so badly if anyone wants to do me the biggest solid and send me asks about them I know no one goes here anymore but this is for me to say my many thoughts at a void I just need a single prompt

#Fairy Tail #FairyTail #I made this to put my Queer headcanons on paper like I did for the Baka&Test cast but I just couldn't do it #There's so many fuckin guys y'all #I have so many thoughts there's so many guys just pick one and ask my thoughts I'll write you a novel #This is the second biggest solid you can do for me rn honestly brain fuckin full #I did my best to even slightly organize my emotions for these guys but honestly there is no one category that can hold any of them #I'm so stupidly attached to the Catholic Arc of Fairy Tail it's an Anime only Lucy centered filler Arc and I'm so attached to it #It's got all my favorite guys it's got Gonzolas it's got Jackpot it's got Sammy #It's got Catholic Guilt and the horrifying notion that inanimate objects in Fairy Tail's universe have will and feelings and conciousness #but not the ability to realize they have these things or to act upon them lest a Wizard uses cursed magic to give them human form #It's fucked as hell and I think about Laponte more often than he deserves #but also it has a buff ass blue cat with a Brother Complex and a Berdly level of bitchy smart boy attitued #And the second dumbest man ever written #Oh btw Fairy Tail is full of Dumbest Men You'll Ever Meet you want a dumb man Fairy Tail's your place no one thinks in this house #*Shakes Toby* Behold the dumbest fuckin guy ever written I love him so much I want to rattle his pea brain around his skull #I'm so abnormal about Fairy Tail guys please ask me about them I am alone at sea #as I deserve honestly but I'm still wishing for a message in a bottle #you could also commission me that's cool too that's solider number 1 right there

[kanene-yaaay-o-retorno]

what a beautiful day outside.

Perfect for making a sans cosplay

(:

#OKAY OKAY I ALREDY HAVE EVERYTHING PLANNED LIKE I WILL BE HIS HUMAN VERSION BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE FACE PAINT #AND I HAVE ALL HIS CLOTHES ALREADY WHICH IS *CHEF KISS* CHEAP #I will clue a paper w a skeleton costume pun on my back #Make that stick mask w his face so I can be sure everyone gets who my costume is #Also bless toby fox for making them all in pixels because I sure dont know how to draw (especially skeletons) #But i *can* put some squares on a paper and paint them #Amazing #Also I'm thinking in making small hotdogs drawings and randomly throw it at my friends so I can be a menace #And I want to borrow a ruben chicken to put in my jacket (that has hidden pockets i would DIE for this jacket) in a way- #-that when beans hug me it will chaos I just ahwyfwjcsycs THINK ABOUT THE POSSOBILITIES #Anyway i'm almost finished w sans face so hopes are high that I will be able to make everything I want #Btw about his mask I almost f*cked up one of his eyesockets but I only teared up like twice about it before managing to make it right #So that is totally a win for me everything is going NICE #Unfortunately I didnt manage to find gloves or mittens so yeah that is what we have for today folks ajvatcwhvwyfw #From the profile to reality #Kanene being Kanene again #Random #OH WAIT I SHOULD MAKE A REFERENCE ABOUT BEING THE ULTIMATE SEXY MAN #B R U H #And learn some new jokes and puns. Mwahahahaha!!!

[izzywhisker]

Art trade with @akabendyfan

#you asked only for tobi #but listen #you adore papyrus as well #i couldn't get this idea out of my head #clothes swap #outfits #fanart #anime #naruto #shippuden #akatsuki #tobi #obito #undertale #papyrus #cosplay #i'm sorry it was nearly a month late btw #i moved stuff around my place and lost my paintbrushes #i disappear #reblogs welcome #likes do not feed the algorithm

[g0blinh0urs]

i feel like WAY too many of my hyperfixations are activated right now and i’m kIND OF LOSING MY MIND.

#text post #seriously #toh season 3 was announced #toby made a whole ass deltarune ARG with a ton of lore #finished bee and puppycat lazy in space recently #which is one of my favorite things ever now btw #AND I JUST STARTED READING NONA YESTERDAY #MY BRAIN CAN'T COMPUTE ALL OF THIS #i'm literally overstimulated right now

[thesnowflake18]

Not gonna be able to finish the animation before the anniversary, so I think I'll stick to a drawing again. Gonna try for another poster-like thing, better than last year's 😅 can't wait to see what everyone else will have in store :)

Btw I might make a speedpaint for this if it turns out good

#unironically sept 15 is one of the few days I look forward to lol #I saw Toby's post btw. little bummed but no biggie #just means we have more time to discuss and create :D #hopefully I'll start drawing more soon too!! i think I'm settled in now ^^ #snowspeaks