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bluecichlid · 7 months

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Threads of Power: Who Is the Master of the Veil?

I have three theories: one obvious, one fun but no real evidence, and one that IMO would be amazing but is probably bat-shit crazy.

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Oren Rosec

This one feels obvious. Maybe a bit too obvious.

The narrative introduces Oren Rosec when Alucard meets him in the pleasure garden right before his rendezvous with the White Rose. The White Rose meets the Master of the Veil right after Alucard leaves. So, same place, same time.

And the narrative spends too much time on Oren for him not to be a player in some way. The bit about his sister possibly being dead (“was”) is clearly setting something up.

The Master of the Veil is an Ostra or a Vestra. In the meeting with Berras and Ezril, the Master is described as having “burnished” hair. (Ciara says dark at one point in her POV, not sure what that means). Oren is blond. In both the Master’s appearances, there is a lot of emphasis on the eyes not being visible, implying it is significant. Oren has distinctive all black eyes. Alucard sees a blue thread by Oren, signifying water powers. The Master uses ice. Berras describes the Master as being young. Oren is young.

So, lots of signs pointing to Oren, but so far he’s not a very interesting choice. Of course, we may get a lot more of him in the next books and if he is the Master, I’m sure Schwab will make him great.

But there are a couple of more speculative possibilities:

2. Kell’s identical twin brother

Pure speculation and there isn’t much to support this.

The biggest reason for it is the narrative - it opens up so many possibilities. Lots of opportunity for “the man in the iron mask” swashbuckling and identity theft fun. Someone from Kell’s family would be a lot more interesting in terms of the plot than a random Vestra we aren’t yet invested in. Kell’s biological family is major unfinished business from the first trilogy. Plus, the Master seems to hold a grudge against the royal family. If the Master is Oren, why would he? Whereas a brother of Kell could have plenty of reason to hate Rhy and the royals.

Physically, there is nothing much to exclude a brother of Kell’s, but nothing much pointing to it. “Burnished” hair could mean red, but much more likely blond. If the hair is “burnished” and dark, it could be auburn.

The use of the mask is interesting. Kell’s identical twin would need to conceal his face, not just his identity.

Reasons against: if Ciara is right that the Master is nobility, Kell would have had to have been born at least an Ostra. That seems like a stretch. Kell’s parents could have been anyone, but in A Life Erased, they certainly don’t act like nobility and they obviously aren’t rich. And if his family was powerful enough to have ambitions for the throne and to be accepted by chummy with Ezril and Berras, it is hard to imagine them voluntarily giving up Kell.

Minor point, but the Master speaks Veskan, but like someone taught the language, not like a native speaker. Kell’s father was at least part Veskan, so the family would be more likely to be native speakers.

Also, the Master shows no real concern for Kell dying. He’s back at the palace at that point, so if Berras’s plan works, Kell would be targeted along with Rhy and his family. “I take it no one should be spared.” There is really no mention of Kell at all, and if the Master was motivated by revenge for the loss of his brother, you’d think there would be something. So family of Kell is a stretch.

The last is the one that is really out there.

3. Astrid Dane.

She died at the end of the first book - or did she? Astrid was possessing someone in the Red London palace right before her death. She seems to have been wearing the possession pendant with Holland’s blood on it when she died. She carried on a conversation with Kell early in the book while still in control of Rhy. If she was controlling someone when she died, part of her could still be alive in that person. And that person could have been Oren Rosec, in the palace as a guest at Rhy’s twentieth birthday party.

The big argument against would be that Alucard didn't see any suspicious magic threads on Oren. But there are ways to get around that. Maybe possession wouldn't be obvious if there is no link to a living person.

If Oren was possessed, his sister’s death makes sense. They live away from the capital. Their father was dying at Rhy’s wedding. Nobody would be left who knew the original Oren well.

There is a sadistic element to the Master:

She flinched, but his grip tightened, seeming to enjoy her discomfort. She’d handled enough patrons to recognize the ones who took pleasure in another’s pain.

And when discussing the killing of the royal family:

The humor in his voice was clear. “I do wish I could be there. It is only so much fun to watch.”

Looking at Astrid’s first appearance in Kell’s POV in DSOM: Astrid had draped herself over one of the two thrones… “ There are parallels to the Master’s first appearance in Ciara’s POV in FTOP: She noticed the way he draped himself across the chair …

Kell in DSOM: ..her hand slid past the paper and closed around his wrist … lightning danced up Kell’s arm, followed almost instantly by pain. Ciara in FTOP: ... his hand closed around her wrist, his fingers burning cold.

Kell in DSOM: Kell did not realize she had risen from her seat until he felt her there beside him, running a finger down the silver buttons of his coat. Ciara in FTOP: …the Master of the Veil was right there, no longer behind the desk but in front of it, in front of her … and later It left an awful, eerie feeling, like his fingers sliding over her skin.

Finally, on the narrative, Astrid as a villain draws Red and White London together, and has plenty of unfinished business with the MCs, particularly Holland.

None of this is the smoking gun, and who knows what Schwab is really planning. Whatever it is, I’m sure it will be great.

#Fragile Threads of Power #Meta #Speculation #Master of the Veil #Shades of Magic #Astrid Dane

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pink-november · 4 months

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slay the princess swap aus are precious things to me cuz it's where i get blessed to see how the long quiet will be able to hold his voices and say his thoughts on them with the same tenderness and care the shifting mound shows to her vessels in game

#slay the princess #slay the princess spoilers #stp spoilers #just imagine please for example the specter #after doing her thing in this swap au route chapters #she approaches this entity in the long quiet #holding her killer in an embrace she cannot really comprehend is one #until maybe much later because off all the feathers and wings and claws surrounding them #tlq while holding the voice of the cold says his line #this fragment is both cold and calmness. he has mastered himself and veiled the heart he is missing #he seeks that which he cannot have even to his own detriment #but your understanding has managed to touch him despite his apathy #he will become my tenacity and determination #do not mourn him. for you have finally brought him home

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silverybeast · 1 month

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veil

for @grollow ♥

[their Grimm from Red Sky at Morning]

#hollow knight #hollow knight art #troupe master grimm #hk grimm #grimm #watercolour #mixed media #metal leaf #fanart #for others #i first wrote 'as he appears in' but the chances he doesn't have the veil locked in a box somewhere safe?? nonexistent

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iihavenomouth · 2 years

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call that rainbow capitalism

(hearts, wines, fires, pages, spices, iron, stones, mirrors, cups, veils)

#fallen london #masters of the bazaar #oghghg do i have to tag them all #pride #pride month #mr hearts #mr wines #mr fires #mr pages #mr spices #mr iron #mr stones #mr cups #mr mirrors #mr veils

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inquisitors-and-serpents · 6 months

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this counts as bag-a-legend related art right

#fallen london #fallen london oc #leisurely sketches #also for the record #he had only bitten it twice #thats two times too much to be biting a master #BUT HE HAS RESTRAINT #at least a concept of it #maybe he got too into roleplaying as veils #…foreshadowing?#oc: vox volkov

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curiouscalembour · 1 year

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[i.d. three photos of a black and green crocheted bat wearing a green cloak. in the first photo the hood is pulled up to hide the ears and face. in the second photo it is pulled down. in the third photo the cloak is unbuttoned, revealing two toned wings. end i.d.] @solariium made me a birthday/feast of the rose gift!!!!! a little crocheted veils, using the mr pages pattern!!!! (they modified it to be smaller and have the ruffle and bi-colored wings) i adore it so so sos soooo fucking much (and am likely to ask them to make more)

#fallen london #the masters of the bazaar #mr veils #fl #crochet #bats #amigurumi #flying mice #curators #i cannot expresss how much i love this little fucking bastard it's fucking wonderfullllll

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nono-uwu · 5 months

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More yes

Again no deep reasons for why what stamp just vibesTM (also spreading the silly catgirl Chess agenda)

Also I have one more set of these and then I'll do something very silly with the respective franchises sanrio collabs >:)

#i think my faves are obvious atp #i like to think their relationship is actually 10x less weird than what we see presented #yk instead of thinly veiled misogynistic servant-master dynamic #they're a morally gray friendgroup #or polycule #or dumpsterfire found family #whatever rocks your boat #I have so many thoughts abt them it's not even funny #might make a giant post with all my headcanons #until then enjoy this #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #crowley eusford #fanart #chess belle #horn skuld #project sekai #also look at that improvement from last time i drew these wow

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the-avaricious-meddler · 5 months

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Behold: the Absolute Mess that is the ship Frigid Fabric (Rowan x Veils)

(OG)

#fallen london #fl #fallen london oc #fl oc #oc tag #masters of the bazaar #blorbo meme #ship meme #rowan asher #the frigid-hearted professor #mr veils #frigid fabric

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anxiously-sidequesting · 5 months

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My Personal Shadow Magic Headcanons - "Shadow Sickness"

I'm so autistic and lazy so here's another weirdly-worded headcanons post from me at 4 AM (lmk if I need to tag this as anything specific btw

What I'm personally calling "Shadow Sickness" is the official, prolonged version of Backlash - adverse effects that target the practitioner even outside of the duel circle and in their everyday lives. While "Backlash" refers to the immediate and spontaneous barrage of attacks that takes place after a Shadow spell, "Shadow Sickness" is the gradual deterioration of the practitioner's mind, body, and soul. True to the name, this effect likens more to an illness, a virus; something that's alive and slowly takes over until there is nothing healthy left behind. The symptoms are emotional, physical, mental, and even spiritual.

While regular Magic has life force within it, Shadow Magic is the only type of magic that can be considered "sentient". Not a thinking being with goals and plans, but something living and breathing with the most basic instincts. It's what's considered "Chaotic" and dangerous about it - the Wizard bends and controls regular Magic, but Shadow Magic can bend and control the Wizard. It is the only type of magic that can "fight back" in its own way.

This sentience is what allows for Shadow Sickness and Backlash to happen - these are purely just the results of it "fighting back". The Shadow Magic is reacting to the practitioner. It's acting by its nature by rearing its head back and snapping the hand that controls it. If the practitioner is NOT sound and secure in their mental, physical, and spiritual health, then Backlash and Shadow Sickness can cause even more adverse effects within the Wizard and as a result can suffer more severely.

Symptoms of Shadow Sickness

Symptoms of Shadow Sickness can vary between physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. The "virus" affects every single aspect of the being, down to their very life. The severity of these symptoms can also vary depending on certain variables. Unlike a true virus, Shadow Sickness has no "incubation period" and can flare up at any time during which the Wizard is practicing Shadow Magic. These symptoms include:

Physical scarring (physical, emotional, mental, spiritual) - one of the only symptoms that comprise of all four categories. Scars may appear on the Wizard's body that take various shapes and forms: most commonly taken after that individual's unsolved trauma. This includes old grudges, previous serious injuries that have not healed correctly, repressed memories, obsessions and delusions, etc. No two scars look the same (i.e. two different wizards who have a fear of spiders will have scars that look entirely different from the other). Depending on the severity these scars can cause physical discomfort (tingling, numbness, pain, leathery skin, decay/cellular deterioration) and can greatly impact how the Wizard looks to others to how the Wizard can move around.

Involuntary movements (physical, mental, spiritual) - the Wizard may begin suffering from accidental and spontaneous gestures and movement that is either randomized or triggered. This can include loss of coordination, disorientation, mini seizures, jerks and spasms, etc. Other than being physically affected, the Wizard is not suffering from any medical emergencies. The individual is fully conscious and aware when this happens and depending on the severity, can recover seconds after. This is one of the only symptoms where others could be harmed due to a wayward hand that comes flying out by accident. There is also a magical version of this, where involuntary spells or bursts of magic can be cast spontaneously (hence the 'spiritual' aspects of this symptom as mana comes from the soul). Usually these magical bursts are Shadow Magic and not the Wizard's primary or secondary Magic abilities. (Another involuntary trait recorded is the Wizard suddenly switching to an ancient "Shadow Language" in mid-speech.)

Hallucinations (physical, mental) - the Wizard may begin to experience things that cannot be detected by any other individual. Usually these hallucinations start out as smells or taste first, but there are reports of the Wizard hearing, sensing, and even seeing things to start out with. Contrary to popular belief not all hallucinations are violent or even turn out to be that way, some reports even describe them as pleasant. Hallucinations vary from each Wizard even with those who share the same traumas or fears. Depending on the severity of the symptoms, the Wizard can either be fully aware or completely immersed within them. Since these are only hallucinations they cannot harm the Wizard but can cause further deterioration to the mind.

Depleted energy/"Mana Loss" (physical, spiritual) - as the Shadow Sickness takes hold, eventually the Wizard will be slowly sapped of strength and magical energy. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM IF THE WIZARD IS SKILLED IN SHADOW MAGIC. A Wizard can practice Shadow Magic and still NOT be affected by this. Since Shadow Magic "takes", Shadow Sickness does the same and gradually depletes the Wizard's energy. Like how Backlash takes health in a duel, Shadow Sickness takes your life. This is the only symptom that is constant in all cases of Shadow Sickness. Not only will the ability to cast spells be taken away, but overall physical health will suffer as well and the individual is more susceptible to regular diseases due to a compromised immune system. This symptom only appears in the very last stages of Shadow Sickness and is the last symptom of the individual experiences in their lifetime.

Tulpas (emotional, mental, spiritual) - contrasting hallucinations, Tulpas are the Wizard's visions made real. A Tulpa (from Shadow Sickness) is a physical and magical manifestation of the Wizard suffering from the Shadow "virus". Although it is born from the subconscious of another being, it is a separate entity all its own and has the ability to make decisions and have feelings and desires. However, these feelings and desires are not really of their own and reflect the Wizard's subconscious fears and threat responses. (i.e. our Azteca Tulpa in Khrysalis that formed due to unresolved survivor's guilt. Its "goal" was to destroy us and fully consume us within itself, similar to how guilt behaves in reality). Tulpas can either be created from visions, nightmares, intense and obsessive thoughts, or even previous hallucinations.

Can Shadow Sickness be reversed, or cured?

Shadow Sickness can be reversed, yes, or more commonly halted. Unless the Wizard is fully submersed in their mental and spiritual anguish ((Malistaire even though he wasn't using shadow magic; Morganthe even though that wasn't what killed her)) Shadow Sickness can be stopped. The road to recovery varies wildly from each person so there is no set "recovery time" in which you are expected to be fully healed. It is your own journey and it is ultimately your say whether or not you are better. Clinically, recovery can be sorted between these categories

HALTED: In which the Shadow Sickness is no longer infecting the individual but the symptoms may still persist. These symptoms do not get worse or better, but the Wizard's mind is clear and their soul is at peace. Wizards may either learn to live comfortably and adapt with their Halted condition or could continue to strive for partial or full recovery.

PARTIAL RECOVERY: In which the Shadow Sickness is reversed slightly or moderately. The effects are not all the way gone but are measured to be better than when the Wizard was still infected. In this state any severe symptoms the Wizard is experiencing are now moderate or slight, or less frequent. Just like in the Halted category, the Wizard is sound of mind, body, and soul.

FULL RECOVERY: In which Shadow Sickness is totally reversed and there are no more symptoms that persist. Full, 100% recovery is actually quite rare in the Spiral and a lot of scholars consider the Full Recovery to count as "70% or more reduced" - meaning the symptoms are very slight and few and far in between. Technically this is still a Partial Recovery but due to the above fact and how difficult it is to reverse Shadow Sickness, 'Full Recovery' is an umbrella term. Some individuals even claim Full Recovery even if their symptoms are moderate, because their mind and soul are no longer diseased.

ONE LAST FACT TO LEAVE OFF WITH: Not every Wizard who practices Shadow Magic suffers from Shadow Sickness, and alternatively even the most skilled Shadowmage can develop Shadow Sickness.

okay this took days. bye hope you liked this

#btw tagging some of these symptoms jic theyre triggering to some #tw seizures #tw hallucinations #lmk if i need to tag anything else #BUT YEAH THIS IS IT #i got lazy at the end but i def wanna expand on this #a few things i wanna talk about more in depth: the 'shadow language' thing and the 'mana comes from the soul' thing #BUT THIS WAS SUPER FUN TO MAKE #giving holly even MORE trauma #due to canon reasons and because i love suffering holly isnt even in the “halted” category #theyre still suffering from ongoing shadow sickness. its progressing a hell of a lot slower than others but shes def feeling it #due to ambrose's thinky veiled threat of always being watched and everyone else unintentionally-#-brushing aside holly's health the shadow sickness remains undetected #except for velma. she sees that shit #but since holly is the master of bottling things up theyre like “ahaha what virus” (throws up black blood)#holly has the scarring as the worst symptom and has a few specific scars i wanna talk about in another post #but they also suffer from hallucinations and the shadow language thing #since holly is unintentionally holding off the worst of the Sickness she doesnt have the mana depletion yet #i think i forgot like maybe one or two symptoms but im so tired ugh. this is all yall are getting for now LMAO #idk if this is even a good post. im proud of it #one symptom i forgot to mention is madness. or i think thats the end result same as depletion #its what morganthe suffered dueing the end of her life as a giant apider creature she just fully succumbed to the madness #wizard101 #w101 #wiz101 #text posts

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waterlogged-detective · 6 months

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That guy on the right seems nice, I’m so glad the Vake’s not around

#this is what i mean when i say cartoonifying the masters btw #nrkandan #like i know its not how it works but imagining that one peice of cloth is the only difference between the two is #its a fun joke #fallen london #perry the platypus ass disguise #my art #mr veils #the vake #fl spoilers #kinda but to be safe

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tackytigerfic · 5 months

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๋࣭ ⭑☔ for the ask game please! ๋࣭ ⭑

☔Is there a fic concept you have that you'd like to just explain and share because you're not sure you'll ever write it? If so, what is it?

Hello, dear Apri! thanks so much for asking. I have quite a few of these. I would never say never and in fact I have started writing all of these, to various extents, but they have been languishing in my docs for many years now so may never see the light of day.

First we have the Theo Knot fic (my eternal thanks to the Theo Knot anon) and I do really want to write this one because I think it would be really fun to tease out the tone? Like, would it be more cracky or more angsty? I think in my planning doc for this one I had the idea to bring adult Teddy into it too, with a werewolf inheritance and maybe him having a crush on Theo and that would bring tension between him and Harry... Or maybe he even has a crush on Harry and his wolfy instincts just make things worse. anyway I am mentioning this here because I really want it to happen sometime!

I also had an idea for a sentient homes fic where Harry finds out he has a country house (also left to him by Sirius) but that the house is actually "mated" or paired in some way with Malfoy Manor. Harry and Draco hate each other, and their house start ruining their lives by trying to shove them together. Lots of potential fun for healing/ redemption arc/ post-war reparation stuff. Plus country squire deliciousness.

Aaaand one other fic I have a good few thousand words written of is a multi-POV quidditch fic where Harry is a washed up somewhat slutty Quidditch star, and Draco comes back from France and buys the team Harry plays for in a last-ditch attempt to save them from relegation. I had eight scenes planned in the POVs of people like Pansy, Lee Jordan, an OC who is a young French seeker Draco recruits, Oliver Wood, Ron, and so on. I think I also had a scene with Draco wearing... gold... shorts? and then the final sex scene would be in Harry/Draco POV. anyway. i think that would be fun as I've never done a full multi POV fic.

#i wont even mention my F1 AU #the one with the fiery crash #where he just walks out of the inferno #a comes back wrong fic?#maybe?#the french campsite fic where Draco leaves England after the war #the master of death fic where harry can't die and is reckless as a result and draco does die while trying to keep up with him #and then harry goes beyond the veil to get him back #or what about the one where draco is a researcher at the Ministry and works out a way to go beyond the veil to bring Sirius back?#anyway i must finish my current lovely wip and maybe then i can get cracking on some of these!#drarry #asked and answered #wip ask game #rowing and writing

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