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#also op deleted their entire account directly after this post...
dongsichenged · 3 years
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hi everyone, there's been a lot of false information and missing information going around regarding the lucas situation. in this post, i'm going to be summarizing and translating the accusations against him. this isn't to assign blame or to say if the accusations are truthful or not, but i see a lot of people with inaccurate information
there were three girls who came out with statements against him. details on each under the cut:
op 1, korean, posted on twitter 8/23
this was the account that was swiftly debunked. if you see any posts with a photoshopped plane selfie, edited bubble voice messages, hotel dates that don't line up, or a picture of lucas's trinity ring, this is what those are referring to
link to translation thread here - i don't speak korean so i can't directly verify
summary: op said that after they broke up, lucas would ask her to buy him cigarettes and designer gifts as well as rent hotel rooms for him. she also claims that he gaslit her and cheated on her
op 2, chinese, posted on weibo 8/24, this isn't a direct translation of the entire post and chat conversations, but rather some highlights
she was a fan since summer of 2019. she first met him on december 2nd, 2019 at a beijing fansign. she left her weibo username in a letter to him and in the early hours of december 3rd (the night of the fansign), she got a DM from him
in this DM, he asked her to go to the hotel and meet up with him. at 3am, she went to the hotel room. he told OP that he gets a lot of letters, but only opened OP's and that he noticed her at previous fansigns and would keep the things she gave him.
she said it was her first time in this situation and he said it was also his first time
op asked him if he had DMed any other fans and he said there was only one other from china, but he didn't find them attractive so they only had a meal together
they hooked up, then he told her not to tell anybody and to delete the chat messages. he suggested that they could meet up again, but not to come to the airport because he's tired at the airport and never thinks the fans that meet him at the airport are attractive
OP went to a bangkok fansign but they didn't meet up. they did call each other, and lucas said that he had a bad predebut relationship so even though he liked OP, he didn't want to talk about being in a relationship
the next time was at a shenyang fansign, OP couldn't visit him because she was sick in her hotel room with a fever, but her friend said that he was contacting another chinese fan. after the event, he came to find her
(tw - unprotected sex) that time, they had unprotected sex. she asked him to put on a condom, but he refused to. he said that he hadn't had sex in almost a year. she asked him about the other chinese fan he contacted and he said that this was the fan from before that he had a meal with but didn't find attractive. he was scared that the company would find out and smoked an entire pack of cigarettes in 2 hours
(tw - mention of kris wu) he also told OP that as a trainee he'd go out and party a lot, but he thought people like kris wu were silly and were just in the company to play and never trained.
he said on his show in korea where he pretended to be a soldier, he felt it was too tiring and pretended to have back pain to leave the filming sooner. he complained that chinese variety shows edited him to make him look dumb, so kept hesitating to join the next season.
before leaving to go overseas in feb 2020, he asked OP to just be friends, which she later found out to be his usual excuse.
if not for the first OP, she would have totally believed everything he told her, but now she realizes that she was played a fool
bonus about your fave - he uses secret weibo accounts to vote for himself in popularity polls
op 3, chinese, posted on weibo 8/24. this isn't a direct translation of the entire post and chat conversation, but rather some highlights
OP originally didn't want to come out with this, but after yesterday's posts, realized that she wasn't alone in her experiences with him and other girls had gone through the same things
he would badmouth and make up rumors about other girls just to appease the girl he's with
they first met at his schedule when she airdropped him a reaction image for fun.
he said he wanted to meet up somewhere alone with her. she asked if he had a girlfriend and he said no. she went to pick him up at his hotel and took him back to her house. the first thing he did was start smoking and then drinking.
lucas said that his best friend from trainee days was useless and that his group members don't listen to instructions, don't try hard, and don't practice. he said that one member stole a (modeling/fashion) opportunity from under his nose and that some people don't have any talent but still debut because of their face. he said he didn't like filming Keep Running because his industry seniors gave him a lot of pressure
he also started talking about his family's economic status and that his dad's investments failed. OP thought he was hardworking at first, but then realized that he was just making her feel sorry for him to pick her up
they would frequently see each other at her place, then she would call a car to send him back before his schedule the next morning
he would claim that he didn't bring enough clothes and tell OP to buy clothes for him and bring it to him. he always asked for saint laurent or balenciaga and that he didn't like burberry (the brand that he's an ambassador for)
afterwards, he would make up excuses not to meet. at the time she thought he was worried for her studies but now she realizes that he was actually seeing other people
he would ask if she had her own house and if she lived alone, etc. after confirming that she had a roommate, he stopped responding to her messages
in december, he used the excuse of being too busy as well as saying that they're friends and using that friendship to convince her not to expose anything when his group member was exposed to be contacting fans (t/n: i don't know what she's referring to here)
during the time they were meeting up, she repeatedly asked him if he had a girlfriend or was in contact with other girls. he always said no. he also claimed he never drank with another girl. at the time, she was naive and believed him, thinking that he was just looking for love. she didn't think that he would use his celebrity status and his fans' affection to fulfill his own needs, deceive others, flirting with others when he had a girlfriend
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hearts-kingdom · 4 years
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@didilydee I really appreciate you critically considering my discussion points and showing an interest in not spreading misinformation! OP blocked me so my post debunking their’s wouldn’t show up in their notes where other people could see it being criticized and to ensure I couldn’t respond to their reblog directly so it would look like I failed to offer a counter argument in order to give the illusion of them being in the right since it would apparently be too much of an effort for them to engage in an actual discussion where their claims could potentially be debunked. In any case, since their response involved you I felt as though you might be interested in considering giving it a look :)
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I used this particular article because it was a convenient compilation of facts from various certified legal sources that’s geared towards relaying those facts— not unsourced gossip. It contains links and references to the court documents and other certified sources within the article and the judge is not the sole source within each point that relays facts— not opinions. Therefore, it’s not clickbait unless you consider summaries of legal documents and testimonies clickbait. If you see something specific that’s not a fact outside of the closing statement that includes the author’s opinion, you’re more than welcome to say so.
I didn’t spam every single person who reblogged it with tags— I only brought this to the attention of those who had posted their own comments implying they were open to a discussion given their willingness to reconsider things when presented with facts. Even then, I didn’t tag everyone who commented— only a handful of people. You act like I was making a callout post towards them when I said, “This isn’t a callout post of course I just wanted to bring this information to the attention of individuals I noticed were reblogging with comments. Dylan Farrow and Soon-Yi are often mixed up with each other so I can see how this might be confusing in that sense. You’re not obligated to reblog my fact-checks of course but please consider at least deleting OPs misleading post from your dash to prevent spreading misleading information”, which can be found in my reblog. If they want to say something, let them say it— you don’t have to put words in their mouth akin to how you’re putting words in mine given the unwarranted accusations you attempted to make throughout your post.
It’s very telling of you to claim people who make an effort to be informative when encountering misleading information are “loony” while also acting as though my request for others to consider information you refrained from relaying was a callout rather than a request. I generally refrain from making unwarranted accusations towards people I discuss things with, but given your reaction it’s evident I’m not the one with issues here, so don’t try to project your own problems onto people who consider things critically just because you expect them to believe you with ease and without question on a public platform given how that would be rather loony. Everyone else I’ve had a discussion with on this matter thus far have at least been receptive regardless of where they stand agenda-wise. However, your decision to block me so that my post debunking your own wouldn’t show up in the replies along with your decision to attack my rhetoric without giving me a chance to defend it or criticize your own is another story entirely.
Again, you clearly care more about pushing an agenda here through being selective about the facts you choose to relay rather than addressing the fact that you purposefully left out legal information that didn’t align with your own. Your comments about the #MeToo movement make that evident given how you didn’t address the fact that I said, “Both Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were horrible people and the abuse they committed should not be politicized for the sake of pushing a feminist nor anti-feminist agenda.” You’ve become so obsessed with spewing misleading information to push your own agenda that you’d rather jump through obstacles than acknowledge that your cherry-picking argument is based off of that very agenda rather than the facts that overshadow your personal bias.
It’s interesting that you said, “the words of the person known to have abused and manipulated”, in regard to Moses given how this is known because of his and his siblings allegations that didn’t result in Mia being imprisoned yet you still obviously believe these allegations— as people should given the evidence despite Mia trying to dispute as much. However, you’re dismissing the allegations of Dylan, her mother, three witnesses, and Woody’s therapist who saw him for inappropriate behavior towards Dylan before Woody was even caught cheating. Bringing attention to your hypocrisy isn’t idiotic but nice try.
It’s also odd but not unsurprising that you’re saying Moses should be trusted in regard to denying Dylan’s trauma since that evidently aligns with the agenda you’re trying to push here in favor of dismissing all the other witnesses and legal officials that conflicts with your argument— such as Dylan, Mia, the three witnesses whose timelines aligns with Dylan’s story, the judge, the state prosecutor, Woody’s therapist, Dylan’s pediatrician, investigating officers, and even the state attorney.
I want to reiterate what I said before: “I don’t doubt Moses Farrow was abused by Mia in the least, but the source also brings attention to how Dylan’s story aligns with [four] other peoples [accounts]— not just Mia’s. Moses likely wasn’t present during the assault [itself], so he can’t say she wasn’t assaulted anymore than Dylan can say he wasn’t abused.”
As for the New-Haven Sexual Abuse Clinic, if you actually bothered reading through the article’s legal sources, accounts, and testimonies then you’d know that the doctor who signed off on the legal report you’re referring to never actually met Dylan personally to make an in-person assessment, no psychologists or psychiatrists were assigned to her panel, the notes regarding her evaluation were destroyed, her confidentiality wasn’t respected, this institution welcomingly invited Woody to profess his innocence when they should have remained professionally unbiased, and the judge and state prosecutor deemed this claim as unacceptable given that.
As for your defense of how Woody being a pedophile and assaulting Dylan would have been irrational... yes— you’re right. That’s the point and yet you still missed it somehow. Pedophiles aren’t rational in the risks they take as pedophiles. Your rhetorical questions usually don’t bode well for defending people accused of pedophilia given how it relies on defending their character and the characters of pedophiles don’t have much worth defending since their judgements are skewered, impulsive, and dangerous.
As for inconsistencies, you fail to address the inconsistencies about Woody’s story changing and you honestly just dug a deeper hole for yourself in regard to the attic thing given how Woody’s story pertained to a police report in which he told them he’d never been in the attic before changing his story and saying he had gone up there before.
Oh, an on another note... demeaningly claiming that an issue as complex as this one is something people should “obvious[ly]” be able to make sense of in attempt to make people feel foolish for not unquestioningly agreeing with you is not a very good look at all. It’s dangerous to suggest people shouldn’t be critical of the concepts you push onto them.
I can quote things, too, but from multiple sources instead of just cherry picking ones that align with pushing a specific agenda.
Judge Elliott Wilk, the presiding judge in Allen’s custody suit against Farrow, concluded that there is “no credible evidence to support Mr. Allen’s contention that Ms. Farrow coached Dylan or that Ms. Farrow acted upon a desire for revenge against him for seducing Soon-Yi.”
In his 33-page decision, Judge Wilk found that Mr. Allen’s behavior toward Dylan was “grossly inappropriate and that measures must be taken to protect her.”
“You look at her [Dylan] in a sexual way. You fondled her . . . You don’t give her any breathing room. You look at her when she’s naked.”
Another babysitter told police and also swore in court that on that same day, she saw Allen with his head on Dylan’s lap facing her body, while Dylan sat on a couch “staring vacantly in the direction of a television set.” A French tutor for the family told police and testified that that day she found Dylan was not wearing underpants under her sundress. The first babysitter also testified she did not tell Farrow that Allen and Dylan had gone missing until after Dylan made her statements.
The state attorney, Maco, said publicly he did have probable cause to press charges against Allen but declined, due to the fragility of the “child victim.”
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go-diane-winchester · 5 years
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If you don't like Misha, this post might make you smirk.
I did this post yesterday and then deleted it because the OP made me feel sorry for her.  Luckily for me, someone reblogged it and my momentary stupidity is now remedied.  This whole scenario makes me smirk. 
Yesterday's post:
Doll face found @dean-supernatural-akf ranting in the main tags, including the Jensen tag, which is why she forwarded this biased drivel to me.  Thanks sweetie.  I scrolled though OPs blog, trying to figure this person out, because she ships wincest and destiel, apparently.  And she hates the haters.  It is convenient and dismissive to label those who don’t agree with you, don’t you think?  Label them rather than proving them wrong conclusively, because that would be difficult and you might lose the argument because of a lack of intelligence.  So call them names and be done with it.  Her rant is in italics, and my rebuttal in bold.
Rude and Missunderstood.
I CAN LIKE MISHA COLLINS AS AN HUMAN AND ACTOR WITHOUT BEING ONE OF HIS MINIONS.
Shocking right?
Here have a seat and lean back.
Very recently i got heavily missunderstood, and i’m making this post so it won’t happen again.
I asked someone if their blog is real . Because it was so full of hate against this actor named Misha Collins.
This guy right here, and I bet when you are one of the anti misha people then you even share the same look on your face right now, congrats.
Listen… I love JENSEN and i love JARED. And yes i love MISHA too.
But i don’t follow him around like a dog, i don’t kiss the ground where hes walking on.
AND i also don’t do this with J2.
Why is it that when there is an entire blog dedicated to hate for Jensen or Jared, there is no bleeding heart rant like this about that blogger?  But if you write a blog about all the mean things Misha and his fans do, you are a “horrible human being” with “toxicity and hate in your heart”.  No, I would prefer to call it discernment.  I wont like someone just because “it SPNFamily darn it, haters don’t belong”.  So if Misha gives me consistent reasons to hate him, I am still not allowed to hate him because I will be ejected from SPNFamily?  What is this?  A communist fanbase?  Nobody is allowed to have their own opinions?  Everybody must think the same way and feel the same fairytale happy feelings?  Which dandelion world did you pop up from?
I fight for all of them, i fight against the hate that all of those three get and Misha gets more hate then J2 and thats a fact.
Misha gets more hate?  Really?  You mean like death threats?  Like people tweeting him directly that they wish he was dead?  That kind of hate?  Please, show me where the hate is.  Bring me your receipts.  I want to see all the hate that Misha gets. 
And it’s so fucking unfair, i have seen blogs and people that wish that he would die, a man with two children and wife.
This is so sick and it’s so not okay.
Prove it.  Screenshot and show me where all these horrible people are.  I will put it in a post.  I always do.  The death threats and death wishes for J2 have been screenshotted and are on my blog.  So I have proof for my claims.  Bring the proof for your claims.  Its called making mature statements.  Quantifying your claims.  So please, set me straight.  Show me all the nastiness poor Misha gets.  I would like to see it. 
About the Misha minions, MISHA ISNT THE ONLY ONE WITH MINIONS.
Shocking again, right ?
From under which rock did you emerge?  Misha named his fans minions.  Very disrespectful.  No other actor has ’‘minions’’.  Benedict Cumberbatch didn’t like his fans referring to themselves as Cumberb*tches.  I respect him for that.  Misha did the opposite.   Shocking, right?
The people who only love J2 hate on Misha. And the people who love all of them hate back against the anti Misha people.
That is an incredibly simplistic way of putting it.  And it gives me the impression that this rant was written by someone who is young and idealistic in their notion of how the world works.  How come you don’t talk about the people who like Jensen and Misha and therefore hate Jared?  You cant.  You cant because that would be problematic to the narrative you are vomiting right now.  Those cockles perverts are the ones that tweet him, telling him that that they cant wait for him to die.  Receipts on my blog. 
The way you support J2 is the same way that Misha’s people support him.
Actually no, J2 fans don’t get angry when Misha is interviewed for Elle magazine, yelling “where’s J2”.  They don’t ask “Whose line is it,anyway?” why they excluded J2.  They don’t threaten to burn Misha alive in his house for being anti-destiel and/or making a joke about Jensen.  That happened with Jensen.  I have the receipts.  The same group were discussing kidnapping Jared’s kids.  That group was made up of 3500 people.  So many haters slipped up your radar?  Well, now you know. 
Minions and bitchy people are EVERYWHERE.
It is such a useless fight, don’t like someone?
THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT.
Yeah, take a page out of your own book.  If you don’t like the “haters”, as you dismissively call them, then don’t put this incorrect, unsubstantiated, unquantifiable rant in the main tags.  In fact, keep your uninformed opinion to yourself. 
What you do when you hate someone so badly and make a whole tumblr Blog about it then you are not better as those highschool bullies.
Dealing with the entire subject of hate, in the most abstract manner, without any analysis into your darling actor’s bad behavior and without taking into account the nasty behavior of his fandom, shows that high school is all you know.  Hopefully, one day you will grow up and think on broader terms. 
Cyberbullying is a serious subject, and thats exactly what you do with Hate Blogs and Hate tweets and Hate comments.
Keep using the word “hate”.  It will abrogate all the legitimate anger that the J2 fans have against Misha and his hellerminions.  Hellers are the biggest cyberbullies in fandom.  They sent hate directly to J2.  Some of the things they write will shock a person who has a real disdain to hate, not a daffodil like you who thinks Misha is infallible and doesn’t deserve an anti tag.  One said that she couldn’t wait for Jared to die.  And she tweeted that directly to Jared, along with a praying emoji.  Oh, you don’t know about that?  Well, then I guess you are not an authority on who is SPNFamily and who is not, now are you? 
You want to be a bully ? You love spreading hate ?
THEN JUST FUCKING BLOCK ME AND DON’T REPLY TO THIS.
Don’t reply to this?  Then why put it in the main tags, as well as inappropriate tags, and still hope that nobody disagree with you.  Aren’t we childish? 
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What happened after the post was put up:
She DM's me and says that she has since changed her mind because she did another post about the hate that J2 get, and if I could please remove my post, because she was suffering panic attacks over it.  I said I would, but she is going to remove the above misleading post and provide me with proof that Misha gets death threats.  Caught between a rock and a hard place, she said that she came across the death threats on two blogs, that had blocked her for some mysterious reason, which is why she couldn't screenshot the evidence.  I found what those reasons were, when I went to those blogs: 
@castiel-needs-2-go
@destiew-must-go
I searched through their blogs, and found nothing.  No death threats.  They just point out the truth about Misha.  That is it.  She accused them for nothing.  Of course, that didn't occur to me until today, because I still felt concerned for her because the poor kid was suffering panic attacks.  So I deleted the post.  Today I find this message from her:
''So i asked like 10 different people Misha stans and Misha haters about those things you said he did. Nobody has ever heard of it, no one. You are telling your lies man, i aint stopping ya. But you are a horrible person if you need to attack a 19 year old on the Internet and 'Call me out' just because it gives you a kick. And just because you disagreed. My post will stay deleted because it wasnt up to Date anymore, but it wont be my last one. People like you need to be stopped, people like you are the reason why this fandom sucks so hard. Bye Bye. You are the sick one here .''
The weird thing is she attached this gif:
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I don't know whether she thought it was going to hurt my feelings or something but, it actually helps to show her true identity.  She is not a wincest fan.  She is a Sam-hating heller in disguise.  Who would have thunk it? 
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btsgfx · 7 years
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[REPORT] GIF Reposter @nochuyou​ (@jeylovestoblog)
Account @nochuyou​ (formerly @afternoon-tae, @withlove-tae, and @jeylovestoblog) on Tumblr had reposted complete or compiled gif sets from many BTS content makers after editing them into black & white. The user denies reposting any gifs except for two gif sets (11/05/17). They had deactivated their old account to take on a new identity as “K” with @afternoon-tae​ (at the moment abandoned). It is unclear whether they will no longer repost.
Originally you can look at some of their reposted gifs through their BTS gif tag #jgifs and self-reblog tag #sr. A network that Jey used to be a member of is gracious enough to maintain their partial archive of her gifs here. If you see your work was reposted in the archive, report misattribution through this form to remove all reblogs of the post. If you see your work was reposted on their new accounts, contact @nochuyou​ or @afternoon-tae​ or report misattribution.
We discourage sending messages unless you are an affected gif maker. We do not condone violent or threatening messages. Instead you can show your support for our fandom’s content makers by reblogging this post or blocking their accounts to prevent accidentally spreading any potential reposts. Community pressure may stop this user and prevent others from reposting original content.
Below the cut is the evidence we gathered to reach our decision:
I, admin Tiffany N., was in contact with the user, Jey, since Monday, October 30th, when I responded publicly to this reposting report submitted to us by an anon. I talked to her for an hour and a half that day then on and off until Thursday. During that time she has repeatedly asserted that she did not edit anyone’s gifs.
On Thursday she confessed to editing nochuie’s, but only nochuie’s. On Sunday, when I revealed to her some of the evidence included here she claims she only reposted the 2 gif sets. I was aware at minimum there were 4 accused gif sets, which were posted by the original creators between October 15th and 16th, because an anon provided nochuie three sets of links to OP’s and Jey’s for comparison. The anon’s comparisons proved to be accurate for the 2 we were able to find.
I want to make clear that I gave many chances for Jey to confess over the week and that she had agreed multiple times over to the consequences I outlined (including this report post) if her promises continued to be false.
You can view her Thursday confession and agreement to btsgfx’ conditions and consequences here. I have marked where some conversation was omitted with yellow scissors. Below is a snippet:
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11/07 Edit: You can also read my entire chat log with Jey here. For brief highlights click here instead. Below are the last messages we exchanged and her public apology she posted 30 minutes after. Angela (nochuie) also felt compelled to upload her chat log here.
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11/10 Edit: We were notified that Jey has at the moment abandoned @afternoon-tae following our updated report (11/08) for @nochuyou, which her abandoned blog follows (among more defining tip-offs we will not reveal here). We were also able to identify another reposted gif set from perusing past networks Jey was believed to be a member of and from her mutuals’ archives. On @lgbtqbangtan-net​, that Jey is currently a founding admin at, all her works under #cr: jeylovestoblog have been deleted.
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Since Jey deleted the accused original gif sets (as she claims was asked of her even though most of the gif makers we contacted never saw the accused gifs), we thought that we could not get a copy to compare to the original gif makers’ works. I was notified though that Jey forgot to delete her self-reblogs of them in her #sr tag (now deactivated). We could not find posts for all the accused gif sets still.
In the below gifs we overlaid Jey’s gifs on top of jjks’ (1, 2) and nochuie’s original gif.
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Above the gifs match exactly frame by frame with the same number of frames and pixel content/sizing. nochuie has noted that for this gif set she even manually deinterlaced the 60fps video file. The reposts are also cropped smaller than the original. The bottom one Jey sent to me and claimed it was the original one she posted and was accused of copying. It was not, but it was also a copy.
You may download the psds of the gifs above to inspect for yourself here.
To prove these gifs and downloadable psds are Jey’s gifs overlaid, we reblogged Jey’s original reposted sets from the first user who reblogged each set:
Original: jjks’ set - Jey’s reblog Jey’s Edited Repost: Our private reblog
Original: jjks’ 2nd set Jey’s Edited Repost: My private reblog
Original: nochuie’s Set - Jey’s reblog Jey’s Edited Repost: Our private reblog
With these links you can (1) directly compare the moving gifs from tumblr, (2) check the file names and sizes match the screenshot below by right-clicking and saving the image, (3) overlay the gifs yourself, and (4) verify the timestamps we include at the bottom of this post.
Note that once a file is uploaded to Tumblr, it maintains the same file name (ex. tumblr_oxwu2pvlUQ1rkxec2o1_400.gif for the first gif in Jey’s edited repost of jjks’ 2nd set not listed in screenshot below) for the image in reblogged posts. Below are the gifs we saved from Jey’s original posted sets in her #sr tag.
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If there is further doubt or if you do not believe in how impossibly rare it is for a gifs’ frames, cropping, and pixel content/sizing to match up; Jey had the tendency to reblog the OP’s gif set and then upload the black & white edited copies as her own gifs a few hours after.
Below are timestamp screenshots of when Jey first reblogged OP’s set and the the first reblog (links can be found above through private reblogs) of her copies:
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susanshomebiz · 4 years
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Have you tried building an online business? If so, what were your big roadblocks?
I spent the first 2 months of 2020 setting up a blogging business. It was the third time that I started building a blog and it was the first time I had any success. The first two times I just gave up. The first time I wasn’t even able to get past the theme setup in WordPress. The second time I wasn’t consistent in my blogging and I didn’t know how to drive traffic to my site.
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In addition to the free website and autoresponder setup you receive 30 days of free training and bonuses that will teach you many methods for driving traffic to your site. The training is thorough and easy to understand. You can also submit questions to the helpdesk. In my opinion the value is immense. 
So why would someone do all this for you for free? What’s in it for Stone?
The idea behind the Plug-in Profit site is to promote five affiliate programs in addition to the free website offer. You can sign up for all five affiliate programs or not. There is a cost to join and resell four of the five programs. When you sign up for those programs through the PIP system the person who referred you to Plug-in Profit site will receive a commission. 
If the person who referred you didn’t sign up to be an affiliate for that particular program the commission rolls up to whoever referred them. This means the commissions roll up until they get to someone who is signed up as an affiliate for that program. In some cases the upline of the person who referred you may also be receiving a commission in addition to the person who referred you. This means that Stone could be eligible for a commission on everyone who signs up for a product. Good motivation to be sure, but still a lot of work for Stone!
It’s entirely up to you whether you want to be eligible to receive a commission on all five products. You don’t have to sign up for any of them. You can just use the free site and autoresponder to promote other affiliate products. In fact I believe the training says you are allowed to remove all but the Plug-in-Site promotions from your site and still add your own.
As you go through the training you will be encouraged to sign up for a co-op service that Stone offers. If you have never used a WordPress site and haven’t marketed a business online before I think this has tremendous value for you. This service provides a daily blog post on your site, advertising, and installation of several plugins that will help you drive more traffic and get more sales.
The co-op is also very practical for someone who is open to investing in automating much of their online business processes. Even with so much of your new site already built and automated you will still need to invest more time and/or money to get traffic to your site. 
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For a little perspective on the value of the co-op, I paid over $1,000 for a training course on setting up a blogging business as well as another $375 for a training course on using Pinterest for advertising my blog. There were no free services offered in these programs, only training. While I am happy with the training I received from both courses, if I could go back I would prefer to have spent that money on PIP and the co-op. 
Some might feel the promotion of the co-op throughout the training modules is too frequent, however I don’t. First of all, I think there is real value in the co-op service and second how can I possibly be annoyed by someone promoting their own product when they have already provided me with so much value for free?
Stone also provides you with ways to earn co-op advertising and installation of a plugin for free when you purchase a particular traffic plan through Traffic Authority. Investing in a traffic plan is the best way to grow your business and the free co-op advertising option is a generous offer for those who understand the necessity of investing in their business.
Claiming the free co-op advertising after purchasing your traffic plan is a great option for those who have the time and technical expertise to write their own blog posts and install and setup plugins on their own. If you’ve read any of my other posts you know I’m a strong believer in the fact that we need to invest in our online business just as we would invest in a brick and mortar business. Buying traffic is a great way to get started building your new business. 
My Results
I’ve been working with my Plug-in Profit site for about 2 ½ weeks now. 
I signed up to promote all five programs, purchased a Gold traffic plan, ran one solo ad for 100 clicks and have been posting on Facebook (business page and business advertising groups) fairly consistently. 
I have not yet used the email mailer services Stone talks about in the training. I’ve been posting my own articles to the blog every Monday, Wednesday and Friday for two weeks. I installed the SNAP plugin and am auto posting my blog posts to four other sites. I also email a link to my subscribers after every post.
I’ve added 202 subscribers to my email list. 
I have 1 trial member sign up for Global Domains International. The trial ends tomorrow and I will make $16 in monthly commissions if the member continues with GDI with my premium membership.
I’ve made $10 in commissions on Traffic Authority and if the member continues their membership I will make that monthly plus a commission on any traffic they purchase.
I have 2 people who have signed up as interested in Now Lifestyle, but no purchase or membership yet.
I have 2 people who have signed up as interested in Now Online Sales Pro, but no purchase or membership yet.
I have received 6 PSA signups at SFI that came directly through the PIP advertising.
Surprisingly to me no one has signed up for the free PIP website yet.
Things I love about PIP
Site and autoresponder are set up for FREE
You market 5 (really 6 if you count the co-op) affiliate programs at one time
You can add as many other products as you want to the site
Option to have your blogging, advertising and some plugins done for you
You can add your own blog posts and plugins
Provides lots of marketing tools with step by step instructions
One Issue
I’ve only run into one issue so far with PIP and that was caused by my own ignorance. I used a domain that was previously pointed to another site with email setup through G Suite. When I changed the name servers to point to PIP, I lost access to the MX records at my domain registrar site. This essentially deleted my email address for that domain. 
My YouTube account was set up using that email address and I had some autoresponder emails attached to that email address too. This means I can no longer access my YouTube Channel. I’ve tried contacting G Suite support, and my domain registrar support and I am still trying to sort out my options. So far I’m either not getting good information or I’m just out of luck.
Caveat Emptor: It may be best if you use a domain name that doesn’t have a working email address tied to it when you request your free PIP website. 
PIP understandably doesn’t provide email support. It appears that I may have to either hire someone with expertise in this area or give up the email address and recreate my YouTube channel…none of the Google email recovery options have worked. With my other sites that are hosted in one place with the domain registered elsewhere I had to make changes to the mx records at the hosting site. PIP is privately hosted so this is not an option.
Final Thoughts
I have tried many online business programs and have spent too much money on systems that promised the moon, but delivered very little of what they promised. I am extremely impressed with the value of all the free setup provided by Plug-in-Profit. I highly recommend this system to anyone who is serious about wanting to build a real online business that can provide them with residual income for years to come.
Even though much is already set up for you and you can automate a lot of the work with this program, you will still need to work hard if you want to grow your business. Don’t forget, there is no such thing as get rich quick! PIP is like getting a business in a box – all you have to do is put in the daily work, market it and watch your business grow.
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What We've Learned from Moving to Signed Cookies
We've recently moved Coggle's login sessions from a database-storage model to signed cookies, where session data is stored the session cookie itself.
There aren't many real-world examples of how to handle this migration, so we're sharing what we've learned doing this with node and express, and hopefully it'll be a useful and interesting read!
Part 1: How Old Sessions Worked
Previously we handled sessions with the express-session module and connect-mongo data store, and then we used passport to load our actual user data based on the session. Our middleware setup looked like this:
const session = require('express-session'); const MongoStore = require("connect-mongo")(session); const sessionStore = new MongoStore({ ... }); // loads req.session from the database store, if the request included a valid session cookie app.use(session({store: sessionStore, ...})); // passport middleware loads req.user from our users collection based on the user ID stored in the session app.use(passport.initialize()); app.use(passport.session()); // csrfMiddleware saves a CSRF token in the session app.use(csrfMiddleware);
For each request that included a session cookie, the process was basically:
Check the connect-mongo sessions collection in the database to see if the cookie is valid
If it's valid, load the session data (the user ID and anti-CSRF token) from the sessions collection
Passport middleware loads req.user based on the user ID
Our actual app logic runs
Finally, if the session is updated (for example the cookie expiry is extended), re-save the session to the database. (express-session does this when the response is sent by hooking the response object)
The corresponding data for every single session cookie that hadn't expired had to be saved in the database. This added up to a lot of session records!
Before the migration sessions were the biggest cause of writes to our database, a significant source of reads, and the majority of data we actually stored in our main database (The actual content of Coggle diagrams is stored separately). Our goal with moving to signed sessions is to significantly reduce the resources needed to host this.
Part of the reason for the volume of session data is that we have very long-lived session cookies, as we prioritise people being able to easily return to their Coggle diagrams. People forgetting which email address they used to log in and 'losing' their diagrams as a result is our biggest source of support requests.
Part 2: Choosing a Signed Cookie Implementation
An alternative to storing sessions in the database is to instead store the session data in the cookie itself, so when each page is loaded the session data needed is immediately available in the cookies of the request. This is possible as long as there's a cryptographic signature on the cookie to stop it from being tampered with. Someone can't change their cookie to log in to someone elses account, as they have no way to forge the cryptographic signature.
There isn't a formal standard for signing cookies, but the most common approach is to store a second cookie alongside each cookie to be signed, with a .sig extension to the name. This is the approach used by the cookies npm module, and the cookie-session middleware wraps this module into a convenient middleware which initialises req.session if the session cookie's signature is valid.
We already use JSON Web Tokens in Coggle for authentication between our back-end services, so we also considered using JWTs as session cookie values. There would be a number of advantages/disadvantages to this:
Public-keys could be used for signing, enabling our back-end services to verify signatures without access to the private signing key
Cookie values could be easily encrypted, as well as signed, by using the related JWE standard.
The additional information that makes JWTs portable (key ID, issuer, and using public-key signatures) also makes them bigger
Public-key signatures are significantly more expensive to sign and verify.
There are no readily available open source node modules for JWT-based session cookies.
Since we don't need encryption and would prefer to use symmetric keys, we chose the cookie-session middleware. If you're considering the same route, then think carefully about whether all of the data stored in your session should be unencrypted.
Part 3: Implementation
Secure Configuration:
The default for cookie-session (inherited from the cookies module), is to use the SHA1-HMAC signing algorithm. SHA1 has some weaknesses, so to be cautious we use SHA256-HMAC instead by passing our own Keygrip instance when creating the session middleware:
const signingKeys = new Keygrip([superSecretKey, ...], 'sha256'); const cookieSessionMiddleware = cookieSession({ name: 'session-cookie', keys: signingKeys, maxAge: Session_Duration, httpOnly: true, sameSite: 'lax', signed: true, secure: true, });
Handling CSRF:
We set SameSite=Lax on our session cookies, so it would not normally be possible for code on other sites to send potentially state-changing POST requests with the session cookie. However, in case people are using old browsers which do not support SameSite, or there is a bug in browser's implementation, we still also use an anti-CSRF token for state changing requests.
Previously the CSRF token for each session was stored in the database, and the value sent with each request from the client compared against this - with signed cookies it's instead stored in the cookie itself.
As the session cookie is stored as a HTTPOnly cookie, it is not possible for a CSRF script to read the value, even though it exists on the client.
It might be possible for malicious javascript to overwrite the HTTPOnly cookie, but in that case the cookie signature would be invalid.
This CSRF protection set-up is definitely a compromise, but as Coggle isn't handling payments, we think it's reasonable.
Migrating Old Sessions
It's important to migrate existing sessions so we don't log out users - running both the express-session and cookie-session middleware simultaneously isn't possible, as they both hook req.session and the response object.
As a result, we had to extract the logic from express-session which actually reads and verifies cookies (the getcookie function), and manually check the connect-mongo store, which is relatively straightforward:
const session = require('express-session'); // just for passing to connect-mongo, not used as middleware! const MongoStore = require("connect-mongo")(session); const legacySessionStore = new MongoStore({ ... }); const loadLegacySession = function(req, callback){ const session_id = getcookie(req, legacyCookieName, [legacyCookieSecret]) if(session_id){ legacySessionStore.get(session_id, function(err, session){ return callback(err, session_id, session); }); }else{ return callback(null, null, null); } };
With this in place, the final middleware for migrating sessions is straightforward. The migration is only temporary - once all old sessions have expired, we'll be able to just use the new cookieSessionMiddleware directly instead.
const sessionMiddleware = function(req, res, next){ // first delegate to the new session middleware: cookieSessionMiddleware(req, res, function(err){ if(err) return next(err); // then, ONLY IF there's no user ID in the new style // session, try to load one from the legacy session // so we can migrate it: if(!(req.session && req.session.passport && req.session.passport.user)){ loadLegacySession(req, function(err, legacySessionID, legacySession){ if(err) return next(err); // if there was a passport user ID in the old // session, migrate it: if(legacySession && legacySession.passport && legacySession.passport.user){ req.session.passport = {user:legacySession.passport.user}; // also migrate any existing CSRF token, so // CSRF tokens used in pages which are already // open remain valid: if(legacySession._csrf){ req.session.csrf = legacySession._csrf; } } // delete the old session: if(legacySessionID){ deleteLegacySession(legacySessionID, req, res); } return next(); }); }else{ // if we have an authed session from the new cookie // already then we're done: return next(); } }); });
After this, the passport middleware works exactly the same as before, loading req.user from session.passport.user
Part 4: The Results!
We deployed the new sessions around January 27th. Based on one week either side of that, we saw some dramatic differences:
Database update operations, and corresponding db journal data, were reduced by approximately 80%, from 0.4MB/s to 0.08MB/s
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Database volume busy time (which previously limited our peak scaling), reduced from approximately 15% to approximately 3%. In theory we can now handle peaks of over 30x our normal traffic volume, instead of peaks of only 7x!
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(The reduction in the read ops of two of the volumes is primarily because they were being used as syncing sources for our off-site replicas - less journal data means less to be read for syncing)
And finally, 311 GB of session data and corresponding indexes can eventually be dropped from our database (multiplied across replicas, that's over 1.5TB of disk space, or about $160/month)
Hopefully this has been an interesting read. If you thought we were crazy to store our sessions in MongoDB in the first place, well, we also used to store the entire contents of Coggle documents in a MongoDB database too... maybe we'll write about that next!
Posted by James, Feb 2020.
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You know, I'm not a drama person, I don't like it, but it came up on my dash so much that I kind of had to read it. All of that nonsense could've been avoided if you didn't even take it to the public. Judging people for THEIR characters that THEY made and can do WHATEVER the hell they want with them? Oh woo ho good job, you're so popular for taking the "barrage" of it. No. all it did was prove that you're a D-bag and I've got a nice, long list of people to block now and avoid contact with.
Okay, anon. I haven’t bothered setting the record straight with most of this shit, because I know folks like you will continue to believe what you want to believe and hear what you want to hear, just like you’re doing now. But I’ll bite. You’d think all of you getting onto your soapbox about how you shouldn’t judge or attack others wouldn’t keep talking shit about a situation you know nothing about and/or are terribly misinformed about. So I’ll enlighten you with what actually happened.
A while back, the person in question got into an argument with some people on the RPC, trying to tell them that their interpretation of the lore was wrong. Rather than leaving it at that, when he effectively got shut down there, he proceeded to take a screenshot of the conversation and post it on his tumblr, complete with a rant about the people who disagreed with him, their opinions are so wrong and awful, how dare they disagree with him, etc. essentially playing the victim when he was the one to try to badger them for their opinions in the first place. He also left their names, icons, signatures, etc. in full view.I responded and told him he probably shouldn’t be trying to harass any other people about the lore considering his own character concept (thus, you would think, making my opinion on his character pretty clear). Why? Because it’s fucking true.I don’t give a shit about the lore or whether anyone follows it. Probably every single one of my own characters at least bends the lore. But at least have the self-awareness and respect for your fellow role-players to say “yeah, my character breaks the lore” or not get your jimmies rustled every time someone says “oh, yeah, his character is lore breaking.” You wanna break the lore? Cool. Own up to it. And if you do break the lore, don’t try to force everyone else into following it–especially when you can’t even admit you break lore and instead stretch the lore to try so hard to justify your entirely lore-breaking character concept. Don’t try to heckle people for presumably doing what you do but won’t admit. Granted, these people weren’t even breaking lore anyway, which makes his insistence that they were even more ridiculous.So after some excuses about how he was trying to start some intellectual discussion or something and not just drag these people despite featuring their identities and primarily just complaining about them throughout the post, he admitted he should have at least edited out their names and apologized. Great! You’d think that should be the end of it. I didn’t have anything against him at that point, but also had no desire/reason to associate with him, so I didn’t. A couple months go by. Some post comes across my dash. A girl in the community is doxxing her online ex-boyfriend in a callout post about him for unexpectedly breaking up with her because she “thinks” he was lying to her about serious issues and “believes” he was cheating on her. 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And of course, he published it, with no skepticism or disagreement, only more commentary about how I’m mean and awful. I went to respond, only to find myself blocked. So I went on about my life because it’s not that big of a deal, but hey. The moment you talk shit about me, especially in a venue where I can’t respond, especially facilitating some lies and BS rumors, especially after leading me to believe we’d made amends–you aren’t off limits. You don’t get spared niceness and politeness. Is that mean and petty? Probably.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ve never claimed to be a nice person.Now, to the horrible, awful thing I did to make this “public.” Fast forward to yesterday. I’d kept my mouth shut and left him alone. In a section of the RPC that doesn’t get a ton of traffic, largely because you have to make an account on the website and then manually opt in to this specific forum, several of us were discussing an absolutely awful person which is an unrelated story I won’t get into. Someone asked something along the lines of, “Are you guys talking about Underaged Looking Allagan Voidsent Chimera Demon Guy?” I responded with basically “No, we’re not talking about Underaged Looking Allagan Voidsent Chimera Demon Guy.” And that was it. We moved on with the conversation because he wasn’t who we’d been talking about. His name, tumblr, server info, in game race, class, etc. was all never given. No identifiable information beyond a very brief and tongue-in-cheek description of his RP character comprised of words taken directly from his own wiki, tumblr info, talk of his own character and RP posts.Someone saw the conversation, and based on our intentionally shitty description, was able to accurately guess who we were talking about and send him an anon to tell him about it. You’d think that would be pretty telling about his own RP, and this anon’s interpretation of it. He answered the anon in a long rant about me that featured both my in game name and my tumblr handle. In case you need me to spell this out for you, he went public with it first. I’ll also remind you that I was blocked, so I wasn’t/couldn’t be following him, and I was not properly @tagged in this rant, so I never would have seen it unless someone told/linked me, or someone I follow eventually reblogged it. And I honestly can’t imagine the level of narcissism it takes to write a long personal post full of wangst and victim-playing every time you hear a person had something negative to say about you or your RP character (not even by name–and by picking words from his own descriptions of his character), especially a person you have had issues with in the past and who you openly shit-talked yourself prior. Who does that? Lord knows my blog would be overflowing. Not everyone will like you, especially not people you jabbed at first. Especially not with an off the wall RP concept. Especially not with you trying to pass that concept is lore abiding and just “unusual.” Especially not with you trying to tell other people they’re “wrong” about the lore. Especially not with your character being a squicky, walking fetish and immortal jailbait. And that’s not even touching other things people have told me about this person that rubbed them the wrong way. Move on with your life.However, I found out about the post thanks to the OP himself when he unblocked me just to send me the link to the post and then before I could even read/respond to the post, sent me a barrage of IM’s still playing the innocent victim which is grating enough on its own but also included him straight up lying about ever posting/saying anything about me, insisting he’d done nothing to me, had nothing against me, this was so out of the blue and uncalled for, etc. When I pointed out this wasn’t the case, that I had seen and read the posts firsthand because blocking me doesn’t prevent me from seeing his posts, he began to lie instead about the contents of said posts and pulled some gaslighting bullshit about how I had just “misread” them, all the while either willfully or coincidentally not seeming to understand anything I said to him (I mentioned him publishing the anon about how I hate women at least twice and the response was always “I never said you hate women!!” Well no shit). He kept insisting that I had “gone behind his back” and that if I had a problem I should “say it to his face” despite the fact he’d had me blocked and that I’m not a douchey enough person to try to contact him despite that, and despite the fact that he had “gone behind my back” and not “said it to my face” twice now prior, and had done just that with his post about the folks from the RPC as well.He also insisted that the tumblr post was meant just to innocently “bring the issue to my attention to clear things up” despite me having no way to see it on my own unless by coincidence, and despite him proving to be willing and able to send me IM’s instead, which you’d think could render the need for a public post moot. When I pointed this out, he promptly deleted the post, lest anyone else see through his bullshit to what he was really trying to do.After my initial response to his wall of IM’s, he sent another wall this time with more insults and accusations, and promptly blocked me so I couldn’t respond. So yes, I made a vaguepost, I know, how awful, how dare I. A vague post vague enough that only someone who had seen his post, or who heard about it from him otherwise, would know who and what it was referencing. Until he responded to it himself, that is and unblocked me again to send me more angry messages to which I responded by permanently blocking him instead because this game of blocking and unblocking sure was getting old.Cue his charming friends sweeping in to tell me to eat a dick, making false accusations against my RP partner and I, sending me threats on Discord, telling people I flashed my breasts for money, etc. And the other person? The one who brought him up in the first place who I had only been responding to? Whose name he was given, was aired in the same public post on his blog as mine? As far as I know, she hasn’t gotten any hate, probably not a single message. And I’m glad, because she shouldn’t get any, she doesn’t deserve it. But at the same time, sure seems sketchy that the person who did the same exact thing as me–and who did it first–has not provoked anyone’s ire, not even been messaged. The public post in reply to the anon who named her, even, was aimed 100% at me. Now isn’t that funny. It’s almost like this was an excuse for people who already had beef with me to try to take shots at me and pretend it was justified. It’s almost like all you anon keyboard warriors don’t even know how this started or what actually happened.And now I’m going to talk about something else. You cannot do “whatever the hell you want” with your character. RP is a two-way (or more) street. There is a real person behind each and every character. These people are looking for fun just like you, and are every bit as deserving, and your fun shouldn’t impede on theirs. We are all allowed equal parts of fun.So when people play their weird ass lolicon/shotacon/pedobait characters, who is having fun? What if the other person in the RP was sexually abused as a child and you’re dredging up terrible old memories for them and making light of their pain? What if they’re a parent worried for their child, or worse, the parent of a child who’s already been abused? What if they’re an actual pedophile and seeing you RP this is tempting them, making them think they’re desires are normal and okay? Hell, what if they’re a goddamn ordinary person who finds it creepy and uncomfortable?What if the fetishized, futa ERP avatar is interacting with someone who is trans or nonbinary or intersex IRL? What if it’s triggering them (in the genuine, real sense of the word)? What if the walking affront against the lore character talking about being an Voidsent Half-Primal Garlean Spy in the middle of the Quicksand is ruining everyone’s immersion–particularly when they refuse to play along as others respond realistically IC and try to kill them or arrest them or kick them out? What if the OP af infinitely-stronger-than-everyone-else-around-him character is making the RP unfun for every other RPer involved because their characters can’t do anything but get beaten up or bow to his whims unless they stoop to godmodding or suddenly beefing up their own character?People can and will judge your character. Those judgments are usually best left kept themselves or quietly shared between trustworthy friends. But when your character trespasses on the OOC fun of the role-players around you? Sorry, my guy, people have every right to speak up. And all this nonsense? All this nonsense was a small handful of people who were already pretty nasty showing their true colors and getting told to pipe the fuck down. A pretty good outcome, if you ask me. So, please, block me, anon. My life will be better without idiots like you in it, and the same probably goes for anyone else you intend to block. Your nameless, ignorant, anonymous presence will not be missed–or noticed, for that matter.
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