#anti caroline

[alvariearmy]

I really... really cannot stand how Caroline is shoehorned into every situation. Both by the creators of the shows, and by the fans.

What purpose did she actually serve after becoming a vampire that was best suited to her and not another character? Even her thing with Klaus would have made more sense for Bonnie, who had a great deal to offer him. A baby vampire is not nearly as useful to Klaus as a powerful witch, but for whatever reason, they decided he would be interested in her.

Her appearances in The Originals made no sense and worsened the quality of the last season. Why is she the one to bring sense to Klaus? What has she actually done besides sleep with him? Versus his family, who loves him and has been there for him for years now. Yes, they are physically separated, but this is not the 1800s, they have cell phones, they can call each other. And then Caroline insists that Klaus, who is dying, spend his last day showing her around New Orleans instead of telling him to go and be with his daughter, his child, the person who made him want redemption. One night stand, daughter, one night stand, daughter. The choice is obvious to me, but what do I know.

And then the fans keep trying to insert Caroline into Hope's life? It is very clear that she had little actual role in Hope's life besides... being the headmistress who was barely around. Hope barely talks about Caroline, except to discuss that she is barely there for the twins. (Loved her calling out Caroline's abandonment.) Caroline did not raise Hope, she was barely even an educator to Hope. Hayley and Freya raised Hope. One of these amazing women is still alive. Hope has a living mother figure, and she is Freya. Caroline should mean very, very little to Hope; she can't even be a good mother to the children she gave birth to.

#anti caroline #anti caroline forbes

[fictionalnation]

I am a matt donovan stan idgaf what the tvd fans say since I anyway dont understand yall - i mean yall like damon and he is plain gross as a character, and yall like caroline and nah she is a woman hater lmao she thinks she is really all that- so nah i dont get tvd fandom but matt donovan rules and is the best character on tvd and i will stand by that forever lol

#matt donovan #tvdu #anti caroline

[livelovecaliforniadreams]

#she is insane #i love her for it #midnights #anti-hero #taylor swift #Queen #screaming #taylor swift you genius you #gif #gifs #gifset #Mary Elizabeth Ellis #caroline from new girl what up?

[hyperactivewhore]

I'm sorry but the only reason klaroline ever got so much popularity and their huge fan base was because the fans used Caroline as a self insert: she's the stereotype of a teenager girl, a gorgeous blonde vampire who's insecure and is always put second aka what every teen has been in one point of their lives.

That's why other Klaus’s ships, such as klayley, klamille, klaurora and especially klonnie, didn't get the hype and love klaroline did. These women were all adults or young adults when they were introduced (except Bonnie of course) and the people didn't like them at all at first. I mean, the hatred towards Camille, Hayley and Aurora when The Originals was streaming was crazy and this has reduced a little, but still remains.

I'm aware that even if klaroline hadn't happened, klonnie wouldn't have gotten half the support that Klaus and Caroline have. Of course it wouldn't, why would they care about a poc romance? Bonnie wasn't ignored only by the show itself, but by the fans and this shows. I mean, even klena (Klaus x Elena) gets more love than them and while I don't hate this pairing, it just proves that writers will never put their favorite white person with a black woman.

#anti klaroline #klaus mikaelson #bonnie bennett #caroline forbes #elena gilbert #hayley marshall #camille o'connell #aurora de martel #klamille #klaurora #klayley #klena #the originals #the vampire diaries #tvd #to #joseph morgan #kat graham #anti julie plec

[bennettmaximoff]

It’s still insane how that side of tvdu fandom vilifies Tyler for choosing to get revenge on the man that killed his mother and friends instead of staying with Caroline, all because they needed an excuse to make Klaus look like the better choice for Care. Which is insane because he has physically harmed Caroline and almost killed her, yet somehow him doing that isn’t terrible as Tyler growling at Caroline bc she slept with the man who tortured him and again, has killed his mother…

“Tyler slut shamed her”… when all he stated was that she slept with Klaus. Even in show, they have Stefan punching him and acting as if he said something egregious [Them completely forgetting all the times they have Caroline call other female characters sluts or insinuate it, but ofc the writers and fandom have selective memory when it comes to certain characters] when Tyler had the right to be upset over his girlfriend sleeping with the man who destroyed his life.

This is the same side that calls Bonnie a terrible friend because she didn’t immediately warm up to Caroline being a vampire. Even though Caroline had literally killed an innocent person—Even though Bonnie made her a daylight ring not too long after. But this is the TVD fandom we’re talking about, so of course black and poc character’s feelings are not an importance to them. It’s interesting how they are so quick to infantilize and baby white characters, yet the black/poc chars are supposed to easily move on from their trauma, deal with it, and prioritize their white counterparts over themselves.

#the vampire diaries #tyler lockwood #anti stefan salvatore #anti klaroline #anti steroline #anti the vampire diaries #anti julie plec #anti caroline forbes #anti klaus mikaelson

[bittergirlsworld]

I finally gave up and saw TVD to understand some stuff in TO, and I just have to say: what an awfully written show. My goodness, how the hell is the most annoying girl in Mystic Falls the anchor who holds them together? Caroline, the fandom darling has no personality whatsoever. She's a camaleon, she's what they need her to be in the episode. Sometimes, she's the greatest soul alive, sometimes she's only there to slutshame another girl for doing exactly what she does. Sometimes she's pinning after her boyfriend, sometimes she backstabs him. Sometimes she's so repulsed by the 1000 year murder who bribes her with fancy things and sometimes she's okay to use the hell out of him to have what she needs. Elena, who's supposed to be the protagonist, becomes more and more the love interest to Damon. His love for her, that both recognize as toxic, comes from a sire bond and everyone insists to pretend that she loves him just the same without it as if she wasn't heavily projecting Stefan on him to the point he calls her out. The Originals, who were supposed to be invicible, the most insane of them just dies for a teenage hunter. Finn, the most sane one, portrait as a bore because he resented the bother who kept him in a coffin for thousands of years. Katherine, who I swear is one of the only two female characters really interesting in this show, is called a bitch all the time for the unforgivable crime of running from a psycho hybrid who wanted to slaughter her and then slaughtered her fucking family. Elijah and Rebekah does not exist outside of Klaus. Rebekah was just extremely annoying till they gave her a real personality and in the spin-off. Out of nowhere, she was obsessed with being human. Bonnie, poor Bonnie. The racism was blatantly showing. She was only there to be the magic negro trope. They didn't even allowed her to have romantic storyline! Her boyfriend who she resurrected cheats on her with a freaking ghost and she still back with him in season 5? She deserved so much better. Damon turns her mother in a vampire and then she's his best friend? She loses her entire family as well and is never treated with the same courtesy Elena has been treated. Not even the fancy balls she could attend, apparently. (Her wigs were also terrible. Poor Kat, they made her appear so old sometimes with those hairs).

And the romantic pairings? Awful. Damon and Elena were downright disgusting. He raped Caroline. Why everyone pretends he wasn't compelling her while having sex with her? Why all these centuries old man are so obsessed with fuck teenagers? How's that's romantic, date a girl on high school when you had two shares of a lifetime? Even if we take in consideration the lore that vampires stop aging when they're turned, the only couple who would make sense in this logic were Stefan and Elena, since Stefan was a teenager when turned. Klaus and Caroline had no romantic connection. She used him dry, he bite her to die to make a point to her boyfriend. He would be her last love but fucked her and left. She hated him but would happily accept his gifts while treating him like a dog. Damon and Elena loudly assume to each other that they are terrible together but then forget because they're fucking again. I swear to god, that relationship was pure based on their sex drive. She wanted that old dick so bad she blamed dead Katherine for the fact he killed her friend and threatened her brother.

The timeline made no sense. Plotholes all around. Why Bonnie couldn't make magic while being the anchor? Must be because she would be too powerful, and with Elena being so useless, they couldn't allow that. Caroline is another one completely useless for the plot. She could disappear from the show and wouldn't change a single thing.

It's really awful. After finally seeing this I can say with conviction that The Originals was the best they could have.

#the originals #the vampire diaries #tvd #tvdu #elena gilbert #damon salvatore #stefan salvatore #caroline forbes #tyler lockwood #klaus mikaelson #katherine pierce #delena #damon x elena #klaus x caroline #klaroline #forwood #anti klaroline #stelena #stefan x elena #bonnie bennett

[bennett-mikealson]

TVD Stans are so dismissive with Bonnies trauma. Why are you expecting her to show mercy to people who have done her wrong???? Then try to gaslight Bonnie stans into thinking that her actions in retaliation to people causing her trauma aren't justified. WHAT????

#vampire diaries #bonnie bennett #tvdu #kat graham #klonnie #anti TVD Stans #but if I said Klaus was a big baby and constantly overrated when it came to Mikael then it's a problem #or if I said that Caroline was overreacting when it came to the abuse she faced from Damon then it's a problem #or if I said that Damon Katherine Kai etc overrated about the abuse they faced it would be a problem #mind you these are people who have lived for extended periods of time having time to get over their trauma #but still acted like the world owed them something #minus Caroline when it came to age

[occulthours]

the later seasons of tvd would’ve been so much better had bonnie and caroline switched love interests and storylines.

it would’ve made more sense for stefonnie to get together, bonnie have kids (whether they be the gemini twins or not), stefan take the cure from elena, and open as supernatural school.

it also would’ve made more sense for caroline to fall for enzo (a vampire that actually enjoyed vampirism and fit her moral standards) and did the whole annoyance to lovers trope.

bonnie showed interest in having kids and was far more equipped to teach the next generation of supernaturals. additionally stefonnie had a much better set up post season 4 and kat and paul had amazing chemistry.

caroline never showed interest in children in any way shape or form and enjoyed every aspect of vampirism. it would’ve been more fitting for her to be with someone that fit the immortal lifestyle she set out to live, which enzo could’ve done (i honestly would’ve loved single!caroline but if i couldn’t have that or forwood, carenzo would’ve been my next choice for her).

#bonnie bennett #caroline forbes #tvd #stefonnie #carenzo #anti bonenzo #anti steroline

[viavolterra]

Call me dramatic but this makes me so sad. These mfs actually ruined this poor angel's job.

Dont even get me started on the writers, biggest pussies ever, why make this character and create this storyline just to drop it bc ur scarred of teenagers on their phones.

Then even after shes been harassed and bullied, you go on and reward these same fans by bringing in the other one in s5 (ik julie addressed that but she still did it so she can stfu)

Leah's better than me bc i wouldve come onto the s5 set with a flame thrower

If you dont like klamille thats fine, if you dont like Cami (im judging you severely) thats fine as well....ig

but there isnt a single reason to dislike Leah Pipes, unless youre pro life which in that case stay away from me

If they didnt cast Leah as Cami they wouldve casted someone else and that same person wouldve received the same hate, stop letting your character bias affect how you see the actual actress

at least she aint a zionist like the rest of them

#tvdu #the originals #tvd #the vampire diaries #leah pipes #cami o connell #anti caroline forbes #anti klaroline #anti julie plec #anti cadley mack #anti michael narducci #leah pipes supremecy #klamille #klaus mikaelson #klaus x cami #cami x klaus #to

[klonnieshippersclub]

Bonnie, The Bennett’s, Black Witches and The Magical Negro Trope & Mammy Trope - TVD META

Bonnie and the Bennett’s have very rich lore. It’s not glorified by the fandom unless it’s by Bonnie fans themselves. That’s the way it’s always been, no one paying any mind or deeper thought to Bonnie/and the Bennett’s outside of her fans. This isn't a new thing but I want to highlight this once again because I don’t think fans understand there is more than one negative trope rooted in Bonnie, the Bennett’s and black witches only.

Before we get into anything heavy let’s have some key-terms here: Let’s define a magical negro trope: where a black character appears in a plot solely to help a white character and then vanishes. Now what a mammy is: a black woman engaged to take care of white children or as a servant to a white family.

Everything in the series can be tied back to a Bennett witch. Let’s list a few things the immortality spell, immortals, the other side, the cure, supernatural hunters, creating rings to preserve life, the Gilbert device but only a Bennett witch can enchant it, prison worlds, the traveler's curse, vampires, hybrids etc…You name it without the Bennett’s creation there would be nothing. You would think because of this the Bennett’s would be respected in the narrative and by fans. Wrong. Some of these women aren’t even given actual names. Everyone can have a Bennett witch at their disposal but they won’t be respected either. Bennett blood is essential to certain spells. A loophole.

Let’s talk about Ayana. The Mikaelson’s were only able to become vampires because Esther stole Ayana’s spell. It is forgotten that Esther/Mikael begged Ayana to perform the spell first. The Mikaelson’s as humans trusted Ayana. Rebekah was in shock that a necklace from Ayana burned her. While Ayana remained unnamed this time while the story was told. Rebekah was talking about Ayana. Ayana was known as a healer and given Esther’s praises they were close. The series doesn’t show us why Ayana should value the Mikaelson’s but we do understand why Esther, her husband and children valued her. That infamous necklace that Rebekah loved belonged to Ayana. We don’t know about Ayana’s life outside of being a healer. We don’t know her marital status, how many children she could’ve possibly had and anything tied to her after the plot has used her up. One would think with how close Ayana was to the Mikaelson’s, they’d have some respect or acknowledge Bonnie but that never happens.

We see this in how Emily was enslaved to Katherine. Julie may have labeled Emily a handmaiden but we knew what that meant. Emily only had one request from Damon that he watch and protect the Bennett line which he never did. The black witches never ask much of anyone in the plot or ever given the chance too. Yet when a request is made no one ever meets said request for them. This form of slavery repeats again through Lucy. She claimed Katherine saved her life therefore she is indebted to her for however long she needs. Sheila has her hand in aiding the Gemini Coven, Beatrice helped with the Sirens.

There are other witches that are black who serve a purpose to aid in many and leave such as: Gloria, The Martin’s, Bree, Aja and her coven just to name a few. Friends of the main characters or enemies but quickly there and dropped. Originally due to all witches appearing Black fans believed they were all Bennett’s. Julie has no answer for why all witches that is until they weren’t. Remember witches were servants of nature. The Mikaelson’s popularity, Gemini Coven and other witches. Fills the space that Black witches were once in. Notice a pattern here?

Qetsiyah’s plot line should’ve centered on how she created immortality, the cure, and the other side. But Qetsiyah’s existence revolves around demanding and enforcing continuous revenge on Silas and Amara. Tying her into another repeated love triangle in the franchise. May I add that she and Bonnie are the only women to have been betrayed by a partner and criticized for their reactions. There’s nothing wrong when a man wants and craves power but Qetsiyah is considered the worst of them all. Here’s an amazing video that details Qetsiyah’s writing too. Please review.

Lastly, The Bonnie of it all:

Bonnie’s a loyal, powerful and brave woman. She doesn’t let anything happen to her friends if she can stop it. She cares for them. That kind of loyalty can be beautiful but equally harmful when Bonnie has no regard to her own feelings. She continues to give for everyone and her friends rarely return the favor. Bonnie’s never thanked or rewarded for being there. The friendships stop being equal very early. Her traumas aren’t valuable in the plot. We don’t know what Bonnie’s home looked like. If Bonnie does grieve it isn’t shown on screen. Her family life is limited, while Liz and Alaric aren’t main characters. They have their own plotlines. It is revealed that Abby’s reasonings for abandoning her is for Elena’s benefit. Abby is killed in a coin toss and transitioned. Caroline gets to have a good friend moment while Bonnie isn’t have any feelings towards her mother for abandoning her after. Rudy isn’t seen in the plot longterm and when he appears in season 5 he’s killed in front of Bonnie. She grieves this in silence while grieving her own death that she didn’t make aware to her friends to avoid inconveniencing them. The plot makes it clear if the white counterparts aren’t happy then Bonnie will never either. Elena, Caroline got happier endings while Bonnie’s job was completed. Bonnie never once got to call out how her friends can disregard her, she feeds into them and they grow while sucking the life out of her. In the end, Bonnie went back to Africa. Never any reference to her life from there.

Another thing Bonnie isn’t shown to be feminine. Her best friends go on dates, go to dances, dress up and receive compliments. Caroline or Elena has ever given Bonnie a compliment that aided in her beauty. We don’t know Bonnie’s ambitions or fears. But you are aware when Bonnie wants to save her best friend. Thoughts on Bonnie’s relationships and ships is for the next meta though.

White witches did follow the servitude of others. They were still given the privilege of agency that black witches were never going to have. Witches like Dahlia existed, and although she had one goal she had more personality than others.

When you have people like the TVD writers that continue to push harmful stereotypes there’s always going to fans who listen and continue to perpetuate those stereotypes. The writers had no value for Black women nor do the fans. They don’t care about how black women or people of color are treated in fiction or the media simply because their favorites get to reap all the benefits. That tweet is just one tip of the iceberg, there’s plenty more from Bonnie’s relationships, and storylines.

#the vampire diaries #tvd #anti Julie Plec #anti tvd #bonnie bennett #qetsiyah #sheila Bennett #Abby Bennett #Emily Bennett #Beatrice Bennett #Witch of the five #Bennett family #anti the vampire diaries #anti the originals #tvd meta #Tvdu #the originals #bonnie bennett deserves better #Anti Caroline dries #Fandom racism

[autisticdisasterlesbian]

A huge missed opportunity imo in the whole Caroline Tyler Klaus triangle was not addressing that Klaus took Tyler's agency away and controlled his mind and will in such an insidious way that only Caroline (and Elena after the whole Damon sire bond disaster) can understand, and that's mainly why I find Klaroline icky. Caroline should have been the first person to understand Tyler's hatred of Klaus, because after what Damon put her through in s1 she knows exactly what it feels like to have your free will taken away from you. Tyler had every right to be mad at her for liking Klaus after what he did to him, and Caroline picked and chose when to hold her grudges, and the story would have been far more satisfying to me if Tyler and Caroline had bonded over healing from such an assault on their minds. They didn't even have to stay together, and Caroline could still choose peace over revenge contrary to Tyler and that could still be a conflict. But yeah in light of all of this Klaroline will always be icky to me the same way Delena will always be icky to me

#anti klaroline #anti caroline forbes #tyler lockwood defense #tyler lockwood

[darkestgrays]

spit the blood back, baby

She looked at him straight in the eyes, blue locking with blue, her eyes wide and bright, while flashing him her perfect cheerleader smile. “I need your help.”

He quirked an eyebrow at her. He didn’t think she’d ever been so quite straightforward before. “Well, it must be quite serious if there’s no time for you to play coy first, sweetheart.”

She scoffed, rolling her eyes. “Don’t pretend like you don’t like it.”

His hand went up to his heart, clutching his chest in mock offense. “Oh, I would never, love. I quite enjoy it as it is the only time you’re ever nice to me.”

(Or, Caroline kills Damon. It spirals from there.)

#klaroline #klaroline fanfiction #klaroline fanfic #klaus mikaelson #caroline forbes #fanfiction #anti damon salvatore

[cancerian-woman]

disliking Bonnie because of Caroline’s transition is always funny to me because y’all will bluntly ignore Bonnie’s trauma with vampires at that time to strengthen your disdain for her during her reaction to Caroline’s transition. “Caroline needed her friend…it’s Bonnie’s fault she turned in the first place..” blah blah blah.

#i saw some comments on an old blog and i just LMFAOO #but i standby the claim that a lot of Bonnie critics are done harshly naturally by other fans bc of her race lol #dria rambles #anti tvd #anti the vampire diaries #anti caroline forbes

[screentime-princess]

"(s)he was sunshine, I was midnight rain" ships

tvdu edition

#tvdu #tvd #the vampire diaries #cw the vampire diaries #hayley marshall #elijah mikaelson #stefan salvatore #elena gilbert #caroline forbes #klaus mikaelson #davina claire #kol mikaelson #haylijah #stelena #klaroline #kolvina #anti elena gilbert #midnight rain #midnights

[hyperactivewhore]

I get being upset about Bonnie not being invited to the Mikaelson ball, but here you go once again, blaming Caroline for a choice the writer's made, something she had no part of. People are getting weird AF with their anti Caroline stance and it's getting ridiculous.

Here you go once again, putting words I didn't say in my mouth.

Does it upset me that Bonnie wasn't invited to the ball? Yes. Does Caroline being there make me mad? No. Do I think she shouldn't have come? Yes, I certainly think so.

I complained about Caroline and Matt being there because plot wise it was absolutely stupid and it made no sense. They didn't add absolutely nothing to the events developing there, and their presence was completely unneeded: Caroline and Matt were there solely because of Klaus and Rebekah/delena. This was the moment the showrunners decided to start writing klaroline, exclusively and only because the fans liked their first scene together, so they decided to have her going to the ball just to have their "romance" developing, which made no sense for her at all;

Klaus literally tried to kill her a few episodes prior, he had Tyler bite her on her birthday leaving her on the brink of death and then he showed up to heal her. Where is her self-preservation? Wasn't she scared of him at all?

It's funny to me that she only accepted to go because of Rebekah inviting Matt. Did she thought he was in potential danger? Did she decide to go to try to protect him? I get she was worried about her friend, but this is slightly strange.

Matt was just there for Rebekah and to make Damon and Elena fight because of his altercation with Kol, nothing else, and his presence and the issue he caused wasn't that serious because they made up an episode later. Why would he go? He was a human on a house full of the oldest vampires to ever live, and he was aware of this. I'm aware Matt isn't the brightest person to walk the earth, but everybody knows a human shouldn't be around bloodthirsty vampires.

Again, just stupid. Caroline and Matt shouldn't have been at the ball, that's all. Elena and the Salvatore going made sense: she was the doppelgänger, Stefan had story with them and Damon wouldn't allow her to go anywhere without any of them.

Bonnie, however, had every single reason to be there:

She was Ayana's descendant.

Esther would want to meet a Bennett witch, seeing she was best friends with one once and she knew they were powerful allies.

She had been more close than anyone to killing Klaus: the fact that he didn't try to seduce her or try to kill her was ooc, especially because he befriended witches before klaroline came in.

Kol loved witches and this bitch knows everything about everyone. It surprises me that he didn't try to get her on his side or at least use her to try to take down any member of his family.

The Bennett bloodline is far more powerful in magic terms than any other family could ever be, their blood was needed for like half of the most powerful spells and the fact that not a single person thought about getting on Bonnie's good side is completely stupid.

What is ridiculous is that people dickride 3x14 to hell because of the fanservice. I love this episode, but calling out it's flaws it's not a bad thing.

#klaus mikaelson #rebekah mikaelson #bonnie bennett #klonnie #klaus x bonnie #kennett #kol x bonnie #matt donovan #esther mikaelson #elijah mikaelson #kol mikaelson #the vampire diaries #the originals #tvd #to #mikaelson ball #anti caroline forbes #not really but *that* part of the fandom will cry if they see this post in their tags #anti klaroline

[bennettmaximoff]

Damon was incredibly protective and loving of Bonnie and ended up being her soulmate in the books, and the tvd writers thought “Hm, let’s make him a complete asshole to her throughout the entire show and hurt her at every given opportunity.” They took one look at how Stefan and Bonnie’s friendship was progressing throughout S1-S2 and decided to completely retcon it and started having him disregard her the same way everyone else did. You see, none of the main male characters were allowed to have actual meaningful connections with her because god forbid Bonnie be considered a potential love interest for them and not their self inserts. Damon can’t even tell Bonnie he loves her without them making sure to include “The same way Elena loved you.”

It’s the same reason why they didn’t have Bonnie attend the Mikaelson ball even though her being there made more sense than Matt or Caroline attending since the literal hostess was going to be siphoning her bloodline’s magic. She couldn’t be seen dressed up in a pretty gown like the other girls and dance with any of the male characters because again, god forbid Bonnie be held in the same regard as the other girls and ever thought of as a potential love interest for anyone besides throw away characters. It’s the same with Bonnie not interacting with any of the Mikaelson’s outside of her protecting the MFG from them. There are numerous connections between the Mikaelson’s and the Bennetts. Ayana Bennett was Esther’s mentor and seemed to be incredibly close to all her children. Abby desiccated Mikael, Esther wanted to use the Bennett Bloodline. Yet, not once are these connections explored. These could have potentially been some of the best storylines in the show, but that would have required the writers to not be prejudice and have biases towards certain characters.

But all this begs the question…if you’re going to make a character black or a poc so you can meet the diversity requirements, yet still neglect their character and use them as nothing but a shield to your white characters, then what is the point? Because I have no doubt that if they kept Bonnie’s race the same, she would have gotten the same opportunities as the other girls and wouldn’t be seen as just a mule. She would have still been poorly written, not debating that, but she would have been treated entirely differently by the writers and the fans.

#bonnie bennett #the vampire diaries #anti the vampire diaries #anti tvd #anti julie plec #anti caroline dries #The Mikaelsons and Bennetts were connected through various of ways #Also you would think they’d constantly interacted with the descendant of the person that cared for them as children #Instead we get a lackluster ship that sprung out of nowhere bc the writers catered to fan service too much instead of focusing on actual #chemistry and good writing #rant of the day