#but i think he is flawed as well

[mourningcttlfsh]

now that joe has been outed as basically a groomer for real this time i think i can finally say this shit: we need to stop defending the members of tally hall. we need to stop shoving things under the rug. they are grown ass men. please forgive me if i'm wrong, but nobody ever mentions the fact that joe had gotten multiple restraining orders from his ex?? which like. why are we ignoring that. and the whole nft thing with andrew?? and if i am wrong about this too i'm sorry i saw someone say this but i cant actually find a source but apparently andrew defended joe a while back for the other accusations which you COULD say was because those were less credible but still. i will not be supporting joe or andrew from now on (i will not be buying anything that could potentially support them. if i listen to their music i will be listening to reuploaded versions.) i suggest others do the same. if you still support joe after this please just block me. if you support andrew i won't automatically block you because he hasn't outright done the type of shit joe has. and i sincerely hope joe's victims heal from what he's done and that any other potential victims are able to safely come out about their experiences as well

#tally hall #sorry to my non-tally hall followers #but this is honestly a problem i feel that keeps getting repeated #also i'm not saying you can't find comfort in their music anymore #you can separate the art from the artist #just remember who they are. don't put them on a pedestal #sorry if im implying andrew is just as bad as joe is here. #that's not my intention #but i think he is flawed as well #and i don't see people mention the nft thing like. ever #other than to make jokes about it #also sorry if it seems like im trying to cancel andrew?? im not #i just think the nft thing is really stupid on his part

[turtleblogatlast]

I love Raph and haven’t said that enough so to be more specific I love that Raph is a soft boy who loves bear plushies, a gross boy who eats an assortment of things that are definitely better left alone, a smart boy who is more than capable of taking down villains through planning and fortitude alike, a strong boy who is dedicated to training his muscles and fighting prowess, a teenage boy who loves his brothers but is more than happy to tease and roughhouse with them, an angry boy who sometimes lets his anger take a hold of him to cover the fear, a gentle boy who is generous with hugs and affirmations to those he loves, a capable boy who takes on more than should ever be expected of a teenager, a good boy who just wants to be a hero and slowly comes to realize the cost of that duty, a good boy who has no reservations about putting himself in the way of harm coming to his family, a good boy who’s a great brother and son and person and deserves only the best the world has to offer.

#rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt raph #rise raph #he’s so wonderful frfr #my poor boy is traumatized but still so proud of what they accomplished because they’re HEROES #what started as something fun - Saturday morning cartoon-like heroes vs villains esque - soon becomes his calling #and he loses himself a little along the way #because the world is TERRIFYING now #if they don’t do something about the bad things in the world then worse things will come #and Raph CARES too much to let it happen #even at the expense of his own happiness and youth #and he luckily reigns back that fear - knowing his family is there to keep an eye out with him #and he finally lets himself be a kid again #he’s very well rounded and his flaws are so good because (like the others) they are ALSO his strengths #I like how it’s softly implied that bears are his fav animal too bc that’s cute af #headcanon that he likes them so much because a stuffed bear was the first toy splinter managed to get Raph #but yeah one of my favorite things about tmnt is that the characters are well rounded and rottmnt exemplifies that immensely #with raph being no exception!! #amazing big brother and character #there’s a REASON in my tmnt main character tierlist he’s S tier!!!! #hot take but in terms of who should be leader I think it should be less who’s the better leader- #-and more who’s the better leader FOR THIS SPECIFIC MISSION #bc all four can be great leaders fight me on that #APRIL can as well 100% #doesn’t need a designated leader for them to succeed #they just need ~communication~ #one of my favorite things tying Raph and Leo together is that they both *hide* #I’ve talked about Leo’s many masks a lot but Raph has one too #and it’s the mask of a hero - the mask of the protector

[demigods-posts]

no, i'm fine. i swear. it's just that nico's fatal flaw is holding grudges because bianca was the only constant in his life and when she died, holding onto that grief like a lifeline was the only thing keeping him going. but i'm fine.

#percy jackon and the olympians #pjo text post #pjo #pjo headcanon #nico di angelo #i don't write about him a lot because i don't know him that well #but i think he's such an interesting character because we get to see his fatal flaw cultivate in real time #as opposed to percy and annabeth and thalia #we get to see nico before and after #we get to see how it changed him #and i honestly wish that kid gets the good he longs for

[keepthedelta]

i doubt this will ever reach the person it's intended for but i do want to point out that lewis very much lost the psychological battle to jenson button. and he did so because jenson was nice. that tall british rodent man (affectionate) showed up at mclaren and was kind and polite to his engineers and mechanics and lewis lost his fucking mind. tweeted out his telemetry. had a full twitter can't believe he unfollowed me i thought we were friends but i guess not meltdown only to realise that jenson never followed him in the first place. got so upset by the team having the audacity to like jenson that he spent an entire year driving into felipe massa. i don't think that would ever happen now, even when he lost to george he didn't give a fuck. but it is important to me that people know lewis has absolutely lost psychological battles before in situations when it was in no way personal. him losing the fight with nico was not just because they'd known each other since they were 12, it was also because lewis is paranoid as fuck and has a history of taking things incredibly personally

#i want to be clear that this is not criticism of lewis #but the idea that he only lost to nico because nico made it personal is incredibly frustrating to me #lewis is not the emotionally well adjusted man that you think he is and he never has been #his psychology has absolutely allowed him to win as much as he has #because it has provided an almost unmatched drive #but he has his flaws and his weaknesses #and they are not inherently connected to nico and their shared past

[captain-astors]

Creature. (The rendered ones are referenced from manga panels)

#mediocre art #tokyo ghoul #On some level I think I should like Kaneki more than I do but there's this weird sense of detachment #I have not only from him but being able to perceive him as a character? #I don't even dislike him it's just that I can't feel any which way about him at all. He's a catalyst for events #feels more like the conch from Lord of the Flies or something rather than a fictional person. #He doesn't suffer and learn from the consequences #he just suffers and does what got him there again. It's arguable that the lack of punishment denies him the satisfaction #but if that's the case why does he end the story with everything working out perfectly for him? #Why do his friends oblige his flaws and accept his lack of change? #Is the problem my lack of understanding or his lack of good writing? #Is he well written? #Why do I like a certain character from a different anime who's a very similar person with very similar dynamics #but with a goal and acceptance by himself and those around him that his actions really are reprehensible and cannot truly be atoned for #not only more but to the point that he's actually one of my favorites? #Am I just sitting upon a throne of entitlement #because his thought process and experiences are not catered to be applicable to and understood by myself? #GOD IF I KNOW ANYMORE #I'm not pressuring myself to like him or anything I just don't understand anything about kaneki these days and I don't know why

[vickyvicarious]

Oof, this chapter has not aged well. Hard to keep from wincing as Ishmael reassures me there is absolutely no need to ever worry about any whales going extinct, they are so different from buffalo, it's fine to hunt them vigorously down.

#whale weekly #i think the biggest wince was when he compared how elephants *also* are doing totally great! #though there were plenty of other very flawed logic moments as well

[herotune]

so much shadow around us. to think we almost missed the light...

(a belated entry for wyll week day 6! favorite ship...i adore them ok)

#baldur's gate 3 #bg3 #wyllstarion #wyll ravengard #astarion #astarion ancunin #wyll week #wyllvember #wyllweek #baldurs gate 3 #my art #herotune #i have so many. So many thoughts about them #theyre both. honestly exactly what the other needs...wyll finding someone who loves him and cares for him deeply despite or perhaps #even because of his very human flaws and wont weigh any expectations that he be this perfect fairytale hero over his head #and astarion finding someone gentle and kind who can help him feel safe to express the compassion he very much still has #but has not been safe to express for so long. #theyd balance each other really really well i think... #wyll really does need someone who wont levy expectations he cant live up to over him...who wouldnt care whether he can live up to the image #hes made for himself. of this perfect hero that he definitely feels like hes got to live up to and in a lot of ways Does. #but he still cant help the fact hes ultimately human. and thats okay... #i have a lot of thoughts about both of them in general actually 😭..........individually and together... #i think they also find solace in the fact they both feel like monsters despite that not. actually being true. some of their interactions #esp in an origin run for both of them feel that way already...wyll is also weirdly into the vampire stuff fsr its so funny shdfgjfkdk #anyway. gay people. i love them...

[comradekatara]

my greatest flaw is that i would lowkey ship sokka/azula if i wasn’t so convinced that azula is a lesbian. bc just think about it. they’re both these hyper logical calculating masterminds with debilitating perfectionist complexes to hide their perceived worthlessness, so they’re constantly achieving, and while they never feel any real joy in winning, they get actually suicidal the second they fail at anything. they think everyone who can’t keep up with them is some sort of idiot because they refuse to live in a world where they are in fact more intelligent than most people, including the adults around them. they love making the most insufferable puns you’ve ever heard and get offended if no one laughs. they have daddy issues and mommy issues. they share so many of the things they have wrong with them. so like. just imagine how amazingly awful they would be as a couple. they would indisputably make each other worse , but in the most disastrously entertaining way possible.

#they would be SUCH a terrible couple. they would take over the world together. it would be awesome #pretty much every water / fire ship configuration involves them making each other worse #katara & zuko also have too many flaws in common #and katara & azula doesn’t work on any level but is SO juicy #both despite and because of that #the only exception is that sokka & zuko do make each other better unfortunately #I wish it could be a perfect quadrant delivering four different flavors of Nightmare Couple #but unfortunately zukka would work. really well actually #like canonically #azulasokka is still the funniest possible one tho #and I still think their friendship has the potential to be so awesome #just constant wordplay and bitching about idiots #toph mentions in passing what a trainwreck it would be if they ever dated #and sokka laughs until he cries while azula chuckles but is secretly thinking ‘why is that so funny? i would be a perfect gf...’ #azula #sokka #azula&sokka #unique kind of post for sokklas AND antisokklas #schrodingers sokkla

[celestialrealms]

I just noticed Mephisto matches with Barbatos (who is matchy with Diavolo) in the anniversary outfits in his SSR memory card

These three were also the only three who had half masks in the masquerade event!!!

Anyway, The Royals with Mephisto chat group when? We got one for Purgatory Hall with Raphael..... it's just fair !!

And one for Mephisto and Diavolo as well, but also one for Mephisto and Barbatos too. because you can't tell me their relationship isn't deeper than the devs portray when Mephisto has lines like this about Barbatos's room:

#also obviously chat groups like thirteen + solomon or thirteen + barbatos (+ solomon) as well!!! #but i was pointing this out teehee #..........................Anyway I feel like if I were going to make a meta post about Barbatos at this point #it would definitely involve his biggest flaw being his past self-isolation #+ diavolo being the one to break it (and later mc) means he prioritizes diavolo(+mc) over everything/one else #and it's very clear he has difficulty getting close to people #i usually think it's funny tbh #but i think the context it makes me the saddest in where i'm like... momma go to therapy.... #is the obvious distance between him and mephisto despite being around as an adult in both his + diavolo's childhoods #while mephisto was being groomed to be diavolo's protector or whatever #i just feel like there's so much room to develop these threes' relationships #but the devs just don't want to do it because it interferes with the brothers getting all the screen time for no reason #+ how they only seem to want to make jokes about mephisto and diavolo's relationship 90% of the time #also just saying..... this being a flaw of barbatos's is also a reason i want him to interact with thirteen more #+ to know more about their relationship #because frankly she is a LOT like that too what with how she opens up exclusively to mc #......................... sowwy about the tag rant #i am simply cherishing and holding them autism style. #obey me barbatos #obey me mephistopheles #obey me diavolo #obey me #obey me nightbringer #obey me shall we date

[aromacaque]

you want to analyze a cartoon that is something children can watch? ok here's the first and most important lesson ever.

have you ever heard of "suspension of disbelief?"

ok. next step. do you know what an unreliable narrator is and can you separate the character's perspective and opinions from the writers? because i promise you that the beliefs of the main character do not always reflect the writers and the point of analyzing media is to dissect that.

#like guys sometimes the silly jokes in the cartoon are JUST silly jokes you gotta let them be silly jokes #sometimes the shenanigans are super outlandish because it's a FICTIONAL CARTOON where sentient AIs and magic exist #i promise you. I PROMISE YOU that rottmnt's mind meld was not some elaborate problematic take on eugenics of all things #<- an actual thing i read with my own eyes #like i promise you that is literally not what the episode was doing #'they kept saying they made his brothers smarter which is incredibly ableist because it implies they weren't smart before' #ahem. it was donnie's idea of smarter #you know donnie. the one who constantly puts his intelligence on a pedestal to boost his ego #it was HIS definition of smarter and that is not the narratives definition #i think the series makes that abundantly clear with how much they make fun of donnie for whatever superiority complex he's got going on #and (in the nicest way possible) if you watch the episode it's not actually that they're getting 'smarter' what is actually happening #is that they are beginning to act more and more like donnie personality wise #and that the conflict starts with donnie feeling like they don't fully understand him. #and since donnie is a flawed character his way of coping with that is by being like 'well clearly they're inferior to my intelligence!' #(which .. if you really dissect his character is not actually what he means he just doesn't know how to constructively word his feelings)

[onebizarrekai]

SORRY MY BRAINROT IS INTENSE, to try to resolve this im going to write a little something! it's obvious dream (i might just use utmv names for the sake of my terrible memory) is the founder and top dog at justice reigns, i know ink is his mercenary and is the only one to take direct orders from him, but where does that place finch? is he above ink at 2nd or under ink at 3rd? if you have the time, could you maybe explain briefly what they think of eachother? moreso ink & finch and dream & ink for the sake of my plot, they'll be interacting and i want it to be as accurate as possible

just let me know if the asks are a problem and i'll stop sending them! i know it's an inactive work but the autism drives me LMAO

ok so, first off, ink isn't the only one to take direct orders from dream, if I said that in the past it may have been a mistake. (who the heck is getting orders from dream if only ink is taking orders from him hahaha) ink, for the most part, only takes direct orders from dream, not is the only one who does. for his status, ink is not part of the hierarchy in JR; he doesn't have the authority to give anyone orders. if dream tells ink to take orders from the justice division, he has to take orders from the justice division, but the justice division doesn't have power over ink by default. if JR has a hard or specific mission, they might send ink. (I feel like it would make sense for there to be more JR mercenaries than just ink. but it's a little late to contemplate changes to the lore)

finch is an officer of the justice division, but I don't know what exactly his status is supposed to be. I've said he's a captain before, but I feel like it only makes sense if he's 31, aka his fatal flaws age. so, take with that what you will. he could be young at 24 and be far ahead for his age but not in a position of full authority (think: a senior who gets put in charge of a smaller group, not the guy who goes to meetings) or he could be 31 and be a captain. that aside, I imagine that finch and ink don't really talk on a casual basis. their impressions of each other are probably limited to "that guy again," while passing each other in the hallway and likely some awkward small talk. they probably have worked together a few times and finch probably thinks that ink is too irresponsible and doesn't fully understand why ink works such an important job. (because he gets it done, somehow) they're kind of polar opposites. which does leave some room for an interesting dynamic if you think it's interesting.

as for whatever ink and dream have going on, they're kind of friends even though they're technically not supposed to be. in ds there is a tangible barrier of authority and power that would be difficult to overcome. not impossible, but difficult. they do still kind of have that "you're just my boss" relationship in fatal flaws which creates a little distance, but I think they could become friends more easily there because arthur isn't immortal and hasn't used any godlike power to gain a following.

#the older I get the more I'm like 'everyone in ds is too young' haha #I think finch may gain respect very quickly but not authority #I think finch being of captain status was exclusive to the tcu and well. that should be taken with a grain of salt #dsasks #arthur is kind of silly in fatal flaws. he's just a guy

[turtleblogatlast]

Mikey and Leo episode centered around Mikey wanting to push Leo and Draxum together since Leo’s the most reluctant to give Draxum any grace (for good reason!) But, thinking on the spot, Leo says he’s gotta go do something for Hueso and “just can’t hang out right now 😔” (yes, he says the emoji out loud.)

Mikey calls his bluff and now the three of them (Mikey having grabbed a weary Draxum along) go to Hueso’s to find that yes, he actually does have a job for him. Said job asks for Leo to go with Hueso to deliver multiple pizzas to this giant yokai quite a distance away, and Hueso figured it would probably go better with Leo’s help (emphasis on probably.)

Well, Mikey decides that this would be a great bonding opportunity for them and basically invites he and Draxum along. Unfortunately for Leo, Hueso doesn’t care enough to wave away more help, though he does side-eye the wanted criminal Baron Draxum coming with them. But who is he to judge? (This choice has consequences.)

The journey goes about as terribly as you’d expect, but at least the pizzas get delivered on time.

#rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt mikey #rottmnt leo #rottmnt draxum #rottmnt hueso #listen you don’t understand #imagine mikey trying to get leo to accept draxum as a father figure only for this to push leo to purposefully turn to Hueso instead #idk I love when this accidental flaw of Mikey’s is explored and I think it meshes well with Leo’s own AND fits nicely with their dynamic #100% this ends with Leo & Hueso bonding and Mikey & Draxum bonding and Mikey & Leo bonding and even Hueso & Mikey a bit #but notably only a little Draxum & Leo - because it’s important that Leo isn’t forced to accept him imo #Leo realizing during all his denials of Draxum that oh you know who he DOES think of as family? Hueso #Draxum is trying mainly for Mikey’s sake #Hueso is too tired to care about all this family drama but is reluctantly worried about Pepino #Mikey just wants one big happy family because - that’s just easier y’know? #he tries so hard to work with everyone’s emotions that he just wants things to be easy for once #he wants love and family to be easier than it is - than has BEEN lately #gimme that heart to heart Mikey & Leo moment in this regard #by the end Leo DOES raise Draxum up a bit from ‘complete distrust’ to ‘mild side-eye’ #but it’s a long ways off if he ever gets pushed into the family tier #and also #SO MUCH SLAPSTICK COMEDY and sarcastic comedy in this episode fr #and if you’re wondering- #yes they DO fight the Yokai monster they’re delivering the pizzas to #but they get paid so it’s whatever #kinda wanna attempt to copy the style of the show and make fake screenshots of this ‘episode’ ngl

[ufolvr]

Real big fan of robots and monsters and aliens btw in case u couldn't tell.

And a trope I Hate is forced humanization, in general. If a non human character is supposed to become connected to humankind, then fine. It's not atrocious on it's own. I don't care.

What I do care about is when they're belittled for not being "human enough" in a "weird way". Like, yeah, maybe the alien that doesn't celebrate birthdays is strange to the protagonist. They don't have to call them out on it. The alien doesn't have to be seen at the end celebrating their birthday to solidify how human they've become.

If you want it to happen have it happen gradually. Have them become curious about it, and find out they actually like the customs they're not used to yet. Aliens finding pleasure in a playground, monsters enjoying food they'd never gotten to taste before, and robots discovering they genuinely like watching TV. Whatever!

Just work around their differences, make it be gradual, and not born from the main, human cast making fun of them or pointing out how weird they are for not liking X thing. And for the love of god, don't make "Becoming Human uwu" the center of their story. It's so... Heartbreaking. Bleak, even.

#thinking about brainiac DCAU and how he would Not be open to trying out new things #bc ''his database already has all the information he needs on the topic. why would he need even more? its not important.'' #but my oc cupid isnt like Wow haha that's fucking weird cant you just Try #no its like. 'oh thats fine! ummm... oh! well i guess you dont know how You feel about it yet?' 'i certainly do not' #'how about finding it out!' 'intriguing. fine then' #its about working WITH their preferences and worldview not treating them as FLAWS. ill kill you #📡 incoming transmission 📡 #robots #monsters #aliens #💜brainiac

[ohitslen]

I am here, once again, with my Ao No Flag propaganda

These two specific panels of Toma were the thing that made me think over a year ago “Man. I want to be like that too” as in KAITO drawing expression because—

The subtle shift of emotion, it’s present all throughout the manga, but this is what sold it for me. For no particular reason, it’s not even the best example, it was just what sealed the deal to me

#it’s the way his eyes open slightly in surprise when Seiya tells him that his friends refused to give an explanation when asked about #what happened in what I think is a way of them showing they care about Toma #and that surprises Toma since I believe he might have been doubtful his friends would forgive him after that #which man. idk maybe it’s because it hit home in some other things. it’s so good #Kaito handles the way the characters express themselves so good I’m always in awe anytime I reread any volume #it’s just. they feel so real in their flaws and mistakes and how they take it. for example our dear protagonist #man he is a wreck. but it’s understandable since he is going through a stage in life where he is still understanding himself! #and KAITO depicts it so nicely and lets him be awful. and let’s everyone be it too. they fuck up yes! but it’s not the end of the world #and he shows that too. how it’s okay to make mistakes but you have to owe them and grow from them not get stuck in them #it’s the little me inside of myself that was making me weep I believe #Ao no flag #blue flag #toma mita #yeah this is about volume 7 too #well i dont know it’s the way Seiya is older sibling anguish that hit me with a bat personally because 🤝. same. #and just. AAAAGGHHHH I’m going insane

[lord-squiggletits]

Thinking about IDW Optimus again and the fandom's aversion to even acknowledging he exists bc he's a cop or whatever and like. Most of the time people literally just replace him in fic with some white bread knockoff archivist/librarian, not even bothering to keep in IDW OP's personality (which just bolsters my theory that the problem isn't him being a cop the problem is that he's too multifaceted but I digress).

And it's annoying because you could totally write IDW Optimus as not a cop while still keeping his canon personality. You just have to realize that the reason IDW OP became a cop in the first place is because his formative experiences when he was young shaped him to basically have two priorities: 1. To help people and 2. To do it by being on the ground actively doing something about the bad things happening to people.

IDW OP would not be a fucking librarian or archivist because even though those are noble pursuits that can help people and change the world, and Optimus is educated/smart enough for the profession, he wouldn't be satisfied just teaching people or spreading information about activism or social-historical studies or whatever. He's a mech of action: he needs to be doing things right now, in front of him, to people he sees/interacts with in his own eyes, improving society with concrete actions rather than indirect action or abstract inspiration.

So basically the alternate job ideas I can think of for IDW Optimus are something like being a firefighter (or any first responder really) or even whatever the equivalent would be to international charity organizations, those ones that send volunteers across the world to do stuff like build housing/infrastructure or distribute food or whatnot. I mean I can't imagine that the equivalents to these things would be exactly the same in IDW Cybertron, so you'd have to get a little creative with it, but these are just some ideas of jobs that would fit IDW Optimus' personality while still filling the niche of "not a cop" for people who are just that opposed to it.

Though I think the revulsion against coptimus is annoying in general tbh because IDW is already a continuity that rejects the idea of easily defined good/evil people or groups. It feels like people really want Optimus to be a good person in a very sanitized and academically approved way, so he has to be nice and squeaky clean but also like, a perfect leftist who knows theory and holds the most progressive opinions on every single issue....

There is no room for the idea that good people join bad institutions, there's no room for the idea that the reason people think cops are good guys who help people is bc of the government propaganda everything is saturated with. Hell there's even later issues of the Optimus Prime series by John Barber where Optimus like, MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES, is shown in flashbacks grappling with the fact that he as a cop/Zeta's regime that he works for might not actually be improving society like they say they are, and dealing with the fact that he feels more like a lesser evil compared to the Decepticons (perhaps not "lesser" at all).

It's like there's this idea in fandom of like, fictional media and opinions on media having to strictly adhere to progressive ideals at all times. So people just go "cops bad, this character is a cop, therefore they suck" without being willing to engage with the idea of like. IDW OP is born wanting to fight injustice and protect people -> a good way to protect people is to fight the people who are hurting them and committing crimes -> surely following the law is a reliable moral code to guide him in this -> becomes a cop because he's been indoctrinated into a society (much like our own) where he was told that the state/the law exist to protect the people and being a cop means you get to fight bad guys that hurt people. There's really so many interesting concepts there that could be (and CANONICALLY IS) explored about how good, well-intentioned people can be led to harmful actions simply because they have been fed the idea that the things they're doing are good/helpful/noble. Which is especially important for a character like Optimus, I think, who has a cultural icon status as The Irrefutable and Perfect Good, so it's really important actually to use IDW Optimus as an example of how even the most noble people you know have held problematic beliefs or done bad things at some point in their life. You know, because no one is born perfect and ideologically pure, and in fact society is constructed in exactly a manner to make people drink the kool-aid and believe that the systems designed to hurt them/others are just a normal, if flawed, society.

I mean the writing in IDW literally has Optimus deal directly and indirectly with the harm he's done as a cop and how people don't/didn't trust him because of that. I don't know what the fuck else this fandom wants if the source material literally saying "OP realizes that cops suck and he hurt people and earned their disdain by doing the things he did" doesn't stop them from going EW cop bastard sucks and is the worst Optimus. Like the narrative barely stops short of outright saying ACAB and Optimus himself would agree with this sentiment.

At that point, the collective fandom beef with IDW OP isn't because he's a cop and the narrative didn't do enough to condemn that. The problem is literally just that people don't read and don't care

TLDR: Consider the fact that good people can do bad things sometimes especially when living from birth in a corrupt society that thoroughly disguises its vices/oppressive structures as completely normal parts of existence

#squiggposting #idw op love #like honestly just admit that you havent actually read his parts of the story #or that in a continuity of moral grayness you insist OP must be the one person who's perfectly good #bc idk Optimus is supposed to be good and perfect bc nostalgia/marketing/mythology says he should be #also i feel like theres evidence here of a very juvenile mindset of like #to be good a person has to have all the right beliefs and say it in all the right ways #which is the mindset only extremely insular or inexperienced ppl could possibly have lmao #heartbreaking i know but IRL there are very few people who are and always have been progressive and perfect #there are ppl within progressive mvmts that have unaddressed harmful beliefs outside of their Chosen Issue #there are people who wouldnt ID as progressive at all but are still good ppl who act well towards others #like if youve actually interacted with ppl IRL you understand that if you reject everyone who isnt Perfectly Progressive #youll have few if any allies and possibly alienate ppl who would help/ARE HELPING #like idk do you know how many ppl i personally know who i think have some bigoted/problematic beliefs #but im still friends or collaborators w them bc i understand that theyre still good ppl learning and growing #like. learn to understand that 'goodness' doesnt always look like a walking leftist textbook please i'm begging #and in fact sometimes stories. esp adult and mature ones. will present you w problematic ppl #and you have to like. grapple with their flaws and explore the tension between intention and consequences #a bit of a philosophy tangent rather than anything TF related which is why i kept it to the tags

[sciderman]

What are some things cable likes about peter?

nathan's type:

red mask ✅ tight suit ✅ kind of stupid ✅ filters sadness through the prism of humour ✅

bonuses peter parker has to offer

cute hair ✅ cute butt ✅ cute everything ✅

#sci speaks #i think cable likes how upstanding peter is. like peter's just a good guy. he's such a good guy. #and i think. being able to read people's thoughts. nate probably doesn't know a lot of people as Good as peter. #like peter's good because he's kind of just... simple. he has simple wants and desires and he's not ever angling for anything. #peter's just so good. and i think nathan is definitely fond on him because of that. #i know i complain about this mindset that peter is pure of heart yadda yadda #I HATE that. i hate the trope where peter's like an angel who is pure of heart. he's not. but. #he's not deceptive or hungry for power or morally righteous or anything. he's just a guy. and that makes him better than most heroes. #i think that's something to admire peter for - that he doesn't let power go to his head and he's flawed but not in a superhuman sort of way #he's flawed in a human sort of way. #he doesn't make cosmic mistakes that effect the balance of the earth (well. he didn't.) #he makes small mistakes that effect his personal life and his relationships but he's trying so hard. #he's so. so small potatoes. and i'm sure nathan just. loves him. peter small potatoes parker. #admires a guy who's living his life like that. without cosmic worries or massive ambition. just a guy who wants to be happy. #i think it's funny how wade equates nate and peter in his head as similar because they're both 'heroes' or whatever #but nathan and peter have such polar opposing philosophies to life. polar opposing that they'd still probably admire and envy eachother for #peter envying nate because he's ambitious and powerful and has a freaking floating ISLAND or whatever #and nathan envying peter for being able to grant himself happiness.