#fe vs fi

[confusedinfj]

Hey, I need your opinion. I’m a bit confused between istp and isfp, so here is some info about me:

- I do a lot of stuff but sometimes I take breaks from my hobbies to start doing something new, then I drop it and get back to my old ones, it’s a never ending circle.

- I like to spend time alone like a lot but sometimes I get active and want to socialize. I can text my friends in a middle of Tuesday and ask out and they are like I’m working let’s meet tomorrow or whenever… and I can’t say yes coz I may not want to meet them, so yeah. And I cancel plans as well when I don’t feel like going, sometimes I regret making plans in my active phase.

- I usually do things last minute. I mean I’m okay with deadlines but I can procrastinate till the last day and then do things.

- I mostly listen to people, I talk a lot with a couple of my friends and my sister. Usually I just listen and overanalyze stuff and when I want to say something it feels like I forget how to talk, tho I’m not stupid. I don’t like being stupid.

- I don’t really care about people but if I do, I want to spend time with them a lot and get jealous when they don’t choose me. I question myself if I’m really friends with these people or I just randomly talk to them.

- I daydream sometimes and it happens unexpectedly but I quickly get back to reality thinking what’s the point at dreaming, like it brings me nothing.

- Sometimes I have a gut feeling and it makes me question things and get paranoid a bit.

- I have emotions but I can’t fight the saying in my head “emotions = weakness”. My family says I’m cold and distant and really not empathetic. I don’t remember the feeling when I was hurt, sad, happy, I just label them as hurt/sad/happy but feel nothing.

- I don’t like routines, I tried to stick to them and even made to-do lists but I give them up in a week. But I kinda have a systematic approach when working idk

- I get bored easily

From this information, I personally don't think I could call it. A lot of the things you mentioned are fairly universal behaviours, and some of them are just age/character development things (emotions = weakness is a strong socially pushed idea, for example).

The real difference between dominant Fi and dominant Ti will be in your decision making process. These can actually sound very similar, which may be why you're having difficulty. So I'll try to give you some separating questions which might help in distinguishing them.

When making a decision, do you naturally choose based off your feelings/moral judgements, or based off internal logic that make might make sense to anyone else?

The difference here is that Ti will first need to seek out enough options and information to make a decision. Fi isn't naturally so thorough. Ti likes to overwhelm itself with options, weigh them all up, and then choose. Fi is less likely to seek out all these options, and may go into a decision with a few predecided requirements (must be an ethically sourced product, for example).

When somebody tells you sad news (like maybe their dog died), do you feel sad too because you remember a time your dog (or someone/something else) died? Or do you feel whatever they're feeling in the moment?

The Fe difference is that if the person isn't actually sad about their dog anymore, you won't be overwhelmed with sad feelings about your own precious situation (with traumatic exceptions, of course). Fe tends to feel what's felt in the present, while Fi assumes what is felt based on its own experience.

When you're very stressed, do you find you become cold and rigorously scheduled (low te)? Or do you become overly concerned with what other people think about you and become unusually emotional (low Fe)?

I hope one of those helps!

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[contentgreenearth]

TYPING IN PRACTICE #18: 2 MORE ESFPS WITH DEPRESSION; SADLY THEY COMMITTED SUICIDE; KURT COBAIN AND MICHAEL HUTCHENCE

Earlier in True Types post # 11, where I typed Diana Ross, Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard from the Supremes, I mentioned that Florence Ballard was an ESFP who had sadly been overcome by depression.

Well, I analyzed 2 people who were also in music, and were also ESFPs, and also depressed. Unfortunately, in these instances, both committed suicide. They were two people who's music I listened to during my late teens and early 20s in the 1990s. They were Kurt Cobain of Nirvana and Michael Hutchence of INXS. I was heartbroken by their passings.

Both Kurt and Michael were very easy to analyze in both SOJT and DISC through videos. Both of them had a primary focus on tangibles and a secondary focus on people. That represents Se1, Fe2. In addition, as far as DISC characteristics went, both Kurt and Michael had only I above 50/50, meaning they were both Primary I. Se1, Fe2 and Primary I results for both confirm that both were, in fact, in the MBTI terminology, ESFPs.

I particularly found Kurt Cobain's Fe2 interesting, in that it presents an interesting scenario about how to can tell the difference between Fe and Fi.

In one of the videos I watched, Kurt was asked why he had done drugs for a while. He said , because the rock stars he had grown up on all did drugs, and he felt that if he didn't do drugs too, he "wouldn't be accepted as a rock star ". Then he was asked what he would tell others after his experience doing drugs. Kurt replied, "Don't do drugs. It's stupid."

Both those statements from Kurt show that he has conscious Fe, and now I will talk about the difference between Fe and Fi.

If Kurt Cobain had conscious Fi instead of conscious Fe, his reasoning for using the drugs would actually be to not stand out and look different. As I mentioned to someone on my discord server, there is a simple way to tell whether a function is extroverted (outgoing) or introverted (reserved). Associate images of going out with "outgoing" and pulling in for "reserved" . If feeling pulls in, feeling is going to be concerned about how "I" feel about a situation, whereas if it goes out, feeling is going to be concerned about how "others" feel. Kurt being concerned about the "others" suggests his feeling is going out of him (extroverted), as well as his social acceptance reasoning for using the drugs to begin with. He used them not so that "I won't stand out and look different " (Fi). No . He used them so "other people would accept him as a rock star" (Fe).

Another interesting thing about Kurt, in his suicide note; he was concerned about how his wife Courtney and daughter Francess would feel if they had to continue to live with a depressed husband and father. His suicide note was very selfless, and Kurt talked about putting Courtney and Francess out of their misery of having to deal with a chronically depressed person like him.

Michael Hutchence was pretty much a repeat story, so I'm not going to go into detail with him. But yeah, if you watch the videos you can clearly see both have a primary tangibles orientation and a secondary people orientation, with both orientations going out of them rather than pulling in:

#typology #mbti #sojt #disc #Fe vs Fi #esfp #kurt cobain #michael hutchence #Youtube

[intp-thinks]

Fe vs Fi

Durante esta serie se han estado comparando las funciones por su versión extrovertida e introvertida. La última de este tipo es: Fe vs Fi. Dos función de tipo racional (J).

Fe es la función principal de ENFJ y ESFJ, y la función auxiliar de INFJ e ISFJ.

Fi es la función principal de INFP e ISFP, y la función auxiliar de ENFP e ESFP.

La función Sentimiento (F) es de tipo Juicio (J) porque conlleva el proceso de toma de decisiones que están influidas por lo que el usuario valora, es decir, mayoritariamente por atributos cualitativos de los objetos ponderados por el usuario o el grupo de personas al que pertenece, por eso, es un proceso racional porque se implica directamente el tratamiento de información para llegar a algún resultado (decisión), para esto también establece los atributos y los valores que dicha racionalización tomará como parámetros.

Cabe mencionar que para esto Fe necesita de Ti y Fi de Te. En equilibrio, estos ejes pueden completar el proceso racional aunque en cada tipo de MBTI están desbalaceados.

Fe es la función encargada de discriminar la información que le llega de las funciones Pi (Ni o Si) para establecer y darle relevancia a los valores que sean más compatibles con una entidad universal que se le puede conocer como "el otro", es decir, es un proceso objetivo de toma de decisiones porque toma en cuenta parámetros que son establecidos por y para la otredad. Esto puede resultar en el establecimiento de una organización basada en las cualidades de los individuos externos y a su vez valoradas por ellos. La relación complementaria con Ti es evidente porque es necesaria la coherencia y consistencia interna al basar el proceso racional en los valores externos que podrían carecer de un analisis estructurado de las premisas utilizadas para ponderar los valores externos.

Fi es la función que procesa la información proveniente de las funciones Pe (Ne o Se) para establecer y mantener los valores que resulten relevantes para el propio individuo. Es un proceso subjetivo de toma de decisiones porque la entidad por y para el que se establecen las ponderaciones es el individuo. Constantemente se integran cada vez más parámetros que ayuden a modelar dichos valores y aclaren las incógnitas internas que resultan en una forma de introspección en la cual se exploran las cualidades internas con información externa. En este proceso racional es necesaria la participación de la función Te debido a que Fi representa una extrema subjetividad y Te una extrema objetividad capaz de dar balance a la toma de decisiones añadiendo el análisis cuantitativo.

Al conocer el funcionamiento de las funciones Sentimiento y sus relaciones complementarias, es posible hacer el siguiente contraste:

Fe es una función que basa su proceso en los valores de la otredad mientras que Fi lo hace mediante los valores del individuo.

Fi se relaciona con la introspección mientras que Fe se relaciona con la empatía.

Fe puede generar la organización de la sociedad mediante los valores sociales, Fi genera incógnitas internas sobre los valores internos.

Fi es influenciada por la lógica estructurada de los objetos externos y Fe lo está por la lógica de los objetos internos.

Fe suele buscar la armonía social mientras que Fi busca la armonía interior del individuo.

#cognitive functions #mbti #funciones cognitivas #fe vs fi #fe #fi

[little-forget-me-not]

Speaking of ocs, I wanted to mention it was interesting that in the noday reunion fight/talk, Day was so unlike his usual self, very paranoid and distrustful, seemed a bit withdrawn even. Goes to show how much stress he's under lol

YEAH I was kinda weirded out by that. But I think it made sense. I'm glad you picked up on the withdrawn part actually! I imagine him being a lot more subdued and he's still outwardly cheery and friendly but…anyone who knows him would see that his smile never reached his eyes and his friendliness was hollow (like a default setting). Inside he's hurting, angry, confused, guilty and deeply disillusioned because his mom had always been like a paragon of "goodness" to him. He saw her like an angel. To have that…ripped away in an instant really shook his world. I mean he even left her to go on this trip-thing. Despite her pleading for him not to leave. And he hasn't really kept in contact with her. It's all very unlike Day. Didn't help that he had no one to talk to about this so it kinda festered in him, and the more he introverted, the more those feelings of distrust and wariness grew. ..and then his ex showed up. Which was kinda like the last straw (over the first last straw)

I was thinking about the power of names. It's such a powerful acknowlegement of a person. And what they choose to identify themself as…is so..telling somehow. I was just thinking about how Day…we always call him Day. But his actual name is "Daymond" (like if you really think about it, it's so weird xD) and he does respond to it but usually in official/formal settings. But even then he doesn't fully relate to it. He prefers Day because it's more casual, it's lighter, friendlier and happier. Also cuz that's what Aeriel called him by, mostly.

Made me wonder about an AU where he doesn't choose that. Like what would've happened to him to make him feel so differently enough he never thinks about keeping that nickname? Interesting stuff. Do you have any thoughts on stuff like this? If he didn't have his mom growing up and was not allowed to explore his sensitive, social and carefree side. Like in an AU where his developmental years pushed to be more closed off, serious, distrustful and cynical..he would probably just go by Daymond.. Granted I am also thinking of like a polar opposite of his upbringing which was full of nurture so it's a little extreme. But I could see that. A Day that learns that emotions are shameful. He'd definitely rely a lot more on his Ti I think. Kinda resentful and wounded with fake smiles and platitudes..but not knowing who he is and not liking it. His relationships would he hollow because he can't really trust or be vulnerable. Ok this went beyond a name and I just came up with an AU him lol

Tomodachi Life him was more faded. He was also trans in that one which gave him depression because he didn't know how and why he was feeling the way he was and had no one he could turn to or trust… Also little socialisation and was isolated. Which apparently turns him into smth like a ghost since he spends too much time in his head.

Nolan kind of the same tho….. like his base is pretty the same…he just either gets more angry/violent vs calmer/chill…the duality of nolan is pretty simple lmfao.

Nolan's core personality is just quite steady. Even when he has growth and maturity he doesn't change that much. Less affected by external influence vs Day.

It's basically Fi vs Fe. Nolan by nature has a more defined sense of self. Even with the best nurture, Day took a long time to understand who he was separate from everyone too…only mid-20s.

#nolan info #day info #bet yall didnt think you'd be seeing these old names huh #fi vs fe

[leefi]

enfp han sooyoung...

#would explain why people mistake her as ENTJ too because she has very strong Te (ENTPs dont have Te - ENFPs do) #so really the T vs F debate comes from whether she uses Fe or Fi (which you can argue for both)

[ukelele-boy]

The long overdue why TOA Apollo is an enfp analysis for @fearlessinger

(I'm going to preemptively say: If anyone has a different opinion please make a new post instead of in my comments XD )

I'm going to explain using the functions. There are eight functions total: Fi, Fe, Ti, Te, Ni, Ne, Si, Se.

And each mbti type will use 4 of these 8 functions. The order the functions are in determines their type. The first function(dominant function) is used the most, the second is also commonly used, the third is more subconsciously used and the fourth is inferior function which is not as developed and tend to be used in times of crisis as a last resort.

Functions are basically types of thought processes and associated behaviors. And it's only possible to have one of each type of F, T, S, N with extroversion or introversion classification. 

Hence it would be impossible for a person to have both Fi and Fe. 

I won't go into too much detail on this so if you guys are interested you can look at the link at the end of this post for more details.

But anyways, here we will take a look at the functions and decide what Apollo is. 

How much the traits of each function show through depends on their ranking in the 4 stack. Higher ranked functions tend to be used more etc etc. 

Lets start: Te vs Fe. 

Fe people tend to value the group and the emotional wellbeing of others. They also care about fitting in and belonging to the group. "how does the group feel about this?" 

Te people value the group but from a productivity and practical wellbeing standpoint. They care about getting things done effectively. 

A very basic example, if deciding if the population should be waiting at a traffic light for a time or have the option to speed past it but crying and sobbing for 1 minute. A Fe person might lean towards letting everyone wait but the Te person might lean towards letting everyone speed through. This is because Fe is considering the emotional state while Te is considering the time wasted from the person's life. 

You might be inclined to say then Apollo should be Fe! He cares about his friends! But I'll actually argue he does not have Fe. Recall that a person can only have either Fi or Fe.

Fi people tend to have a  personal moral system that is very tied to their sense of self, and a desire to figure out who they are and what they believe in, and where they belong. You can argue that all people do this, but I'll say Fi havers definitely does this way more than average. Especially if the Fi is first or second in the function stack. Fe sees identity as something that is part of you, "I am what I am". 

They will never have the thought of "oh i did xyz but that's not really me" Fe will consider that since they did it, it is them. 

Apollo is a strong Fi. He values his identity a lot. During TOA, he struggles with his identity after losing what he thinks makes him, well, him. Hence you can see his original concept of his identity was tied to what he could do as a god, and his beauty and powers. Once he lost that, he lost his sense of self. This is devastating for a Fi because their identity is heavily tied with their moral system. Fi make decisions based on their moral compass that they created over their lifetime. This allows them to quickly make decisions based on it in times of crisis. They may say "I FEEL xyz" but the feeling they speak of is generated through their moral system. 

Outside input -> Moral system + identity -> feeling - > decision - > action. 

An older, experienced Fi user will be able to sense what they are feeling and make quick decisions based on it, and leave the analysis part to their databank of past judgements. However, on the outside this can look rash and like they are making decisions based on emotions (which is true. But there's more to it!) 

Apollo lost his sense of self and had to start from scratch. This makes him begin to doubt his morals and past judgements, because they were all part of his old self, and that's now gone. Now how can he make the "right" decision? He no longer knows what is right. He has deluded himself that his choices were right for so long, that once his self is shattered and he is rebuilding his identity from scratch, his entire world tilts. Key word here is delude, he probably already had a sense he was doing something wrong but he ignored it and kept using the old pathways of thought he made to arrive at conclusions. Now that its like this:

Outside input -> ?????? -> feeling - > decision - > action.

 

It leaves him in constant doubt about his present and past self. 

So yeah, Fi. 

And Fi users must have Te, so Te as well. But I argue his Te is lower than Fi and not that noticable. 

Now, we move to Ne vs Ni. 

Ne and Ni are two different ways of thinking and connecting things.

Ne connects thoughts in a spiderweb like pattern and hence has seemingly random jumps and connections. (The grass is green, my shirt is green too and oh, my shirt is from california, and I think california has great icecream and now we are talking about icecream.) Ne tend to derail conversations with their explorations. 

Meanwhile, Ni tend to think more linearly on one topic and discuss it to the end. Their thoughts are more like a graph form where they explore along the line. (the grass is green and it is very lush and beautiful. It grows well in the summer etc etc) Notice we are still talking about grass

Apollo's narration is a classic Ne style narration where you see him talk about traveling with Meg and the next thing he's telling you what happened in Egypt 50 A.D.

So now we know he has, Ne, Fi, Te. 

We just need to figure out whether he has Si or Se. 

Si is focused on memories and familiar things. They like consistency and patterns.

Se is focused on experiences and physical sensation. They like to explore new things and go out. 

However since these aren't as obvious, I will first narrow down the possible types. 

Mbti with Fi, Ne, Te are: 

ESTJ, ISTJ

ENFP, INFP

And since these types don't have Se, we know he has Si. 

We can rule out ESTJ and ISTJ because Fi is not as prominent , and are more Te based (see image). 

Apollo bases his decisions on his heart (Fi) more than rules and traditions (Si) or productivity (Te).

This means his Fi is either first or second. Which means he's either INFP or ENFP. 

And now it's an easy choice because INFP is an introvert. 

And Apollo is just… extroverted, he loves being around people, he gains energy around them. He loves meeting new folks. (I can promise you as an INFP, I do not feel this ajjfjsksksk) 

Hence. 

Apollo is ENFP! A type who follows their heart, is passionate about their interests, loves learning and exploring new things, and curious.

As well, in regards to his Si as his last function (also called the inferior function) . When people are in times of extreme stress, they can sometimes fall back and unhealthily overuse their last function. For example, for Enfps they will go into "Si grip" and begin to have tunnel vision and overanalyze their past mistakes, try to make little detail perfect, project previous bad experiences onto the future, become isolated and withdrawn… 

Does this sound familiar and like a certain sun god during TOA…? 

Other enfps in fiction, that kinda have traits similar to Apollo: c!Tommy, Steven Universe. (I know ppl say steven is ESFJ but I'll maintain he's enfp based on functions) 

And if you want a well written, deeper read into Enfp functions:

Go here

Also these images:

#Sorry for no cut I wrote all this word barf on mobile #Long post #Analysis #Mine #trials of apollo #lester papadopoulos #pjo apollo #Kinda long and rambly sorry its my Ne #Hope yall enjoy #Character analysis #Mbti #Enfp

[randomfoggytiger]

How to "Type" Personality Types: An Ultimate Resource

I decided to throw together a mini guide for those interested in figuring out the Typing system for themselves.

Unfortunately, my knowledge is very slight and the information very vast; and yet, I did my best.

First step: Information. Next step: How to Type.

HOW TO TYPE

Very, very simply:

We tackle either the 8 Functions--

An Ni user sees their path forward. 

An Ne user sees the path of those around them. 

An Si user sees their own past and duty. 

An Se user sees others’ experiences, both past and present. 

A Ti user processes information in a logical sequence. 

A Te user gathers reference points and compares them. 

An Fi user weighs to determine value. 

An Fe user absorbs what other people feel and value. 

 --or, if we're stuck, work at it from the other angles of Direct vs. Informative, Initiating vs. Responding, Outcome vs. Movement, Pragmatic or Affiliative, or Systematic vs. Interest.

DECODING QUESTIONS

Sensing or Introverted: Is the focus of the person or character talking Concrete (Si/Se) or Abstract (Ni/Ne)? If concrete, they talk about things and experiences, tangibilities of the physical world or their experiences and observations of it: the five sense and "What is?". If abstract, they focus on intangibles, implications, concepts, hidden meanings, or visualizations: the theoretical, hypothetical, idealistic, and "What if?" If they're concrete, is that concrete focused on personal sensations or comfort or "have-to"s or loyalties or traditions of those around them? If so, Si. Or is that concrete focused on the present, how they and others make their mark as they move through the world, a next obstacle to overcome? If so, Se. If they're abstract, are they focused on their own future hypotheticals, their path forward, what they want to achieve? If so, Ni. Or are they aware of the future humanity others are heading toward or remember clearly the string of past and repeatable mistakes they and others make? If so, Ne.

Concrete: “Yeah, it is that simple.” 

Abstract: “I think x/y/z/ comes and goes in cycles-- it’s popular for some time before it isn’t again.”/”The more you feel, then the more…”/"x/y/z is strictly a sociological basis..." 

Ni/Se or Ne/Si: Once a Sensing or Intuition has been picked, it is automatically paired with an opposite Sensing or Intuition Function: e.g., Ni pairs with Se and Si pairs with Ne. This eases the process of elimination: Ni/Se Types are focused on their own personal future as well as having short-term memories and great manipulatable physical awareness. Ne/Si Types are focused on everyone's collective future and how that will impact their personal comfort, preferring to "predict" rather than be surprised with the future.

Ti/Fe or Fe/Ti: The same goes for the Thinking and Feeling Functions. Ti is logos, personalized thought (and can result in outdated thinking if they don't bother to fact check their assumptions) combined with Fe bonding, emotional outreach, and interpersonal connections (and can be exploited.) Te is gathered thought and data from other, credited sources (and can result in "group think" if they don't fact check the collective thought) and Fi is morals divorced from the expectations or pressures of others around them (and can seem or become selfish.)

Now, the communication questions:

Direct or Informative: is the person or character communicating precisely and concisely to the question being asked? If so, they are Direct. Or are they either adding extra details to flesh out their response or indirectly responding without a definitive answer? If so, they are Informative.

Direct: “If it doesn’t work out, check out."/"That's my point exactly."/"We're starting right where we left off."

Informative: “When a lot of times I/you are…”

Pragmatic or Affiliative: Is the focus of the person or character bent on saying or doing what they intend to say or do to achieve their own goals regardless of other people's differing or halting opinions? If so, they are Pragmatic. Or is the focus of the person or character focused on the group's benefit over possibly to their own, willing to wait and move as one rather than individually charge forward? If so, Affiliative.

Pragmatic: “my OWN”, creative individuality..."/“I think artist should have complete freedom to express themselves however they want.”/[sarcastically] “You have to be a politician or an assassin to really be a super star.” 

Affiliative: “They stop people trying to get to jobs/get their kids to school…”/“I think there is a certain responsibility to [fame]…”/"...to be hurt is to be human."

Outcome or Movement: Is the focus of the person or character focused on an end goal, a magnum opus, that they are willing to take methodical steps towards if they achieve a perfect end result? If so, Outcome. Or is the person more likely to start out with a goal in mind but change it while working towards it, preferring to finish rather than to possibly wait and stagnate? If so, Movement.

Outcome: “Not according to plan...”/“we know planet is warming because of increase x/y/z/ gases… and that leads to more extreme weather in the future but we don’t know what that means in terms of human suffering in the long run.”/"One might be able to do x/y/z/. One should be able to do…" (also an Ne statement.) 

Movement: “[After leaving] I didn’t make a conscious decision to leave necessarily, but I did make a decision to pause...”/“It’s been a journey…” “...up for grabs.”/ “I had this problem, and I did these steps, and it turned into this thing, and that didn’t work out, and--” /"Saw other folks doing it so thought 'might as well give it a go'...”

Initiating or Responding: Are the actions of this person or character comfortable seeking out information from others, moving from one topic to the next while fluidly guiding conversations to and away areas of interest? If so, Initiating. Or are their actions more laidback, preferring others to relay information and steer conversations into new topics or interests? If so, Responding.

Systematic or Interest: Does this person or character automatically refer back to objective rules and methods for settling conflicts or striking deals? If so, Systematic. Or do they subjectively hammer out the best personal or individual deal that will benefit them first and then the other person? If so, Interest.

Systematic: "Trust the process"/"Going through procedures..."

Interest: “I believe we shouldn’t sell a false hope to people, should tell it like it bleakly is.”/"..." let's talk about x politician and this policy they are trying to push and why that might be bad/good..."/"What's your angle?"

RESULTS

There are Sixteen Types; and if we apply the above steps, it'll be easy to quickly whittle down (most) options.

Structure Types (Direct, Initiating, Outcome): ESTJ, ESTP, ENTJ, ENFJ

Starter Types (Informative, Initiating, Progression): ESFJ, ESFP, ENTP, ENFP

Finisher Types (Direct, Responding, Progression): ISTJ, ISTP, INTJ, INFJ

Background Types: (Informative, Responding, Outcome): ISFJ, ISFP, INTP, INFP

AN EXAMPLE

Example: Dana Scully-- post here-- very firmly stands on what is proven to be true, raising an eyebrow at unsourced theories or quacks that toss aside traditional answers to bark about their own theories. We know Mulder won her respect because his speculations were based on established facts or were easily conceded when debunked by current data. We also know she respects and upholds vocations of service, choosing one for herself; and often takes a "Starbuck" role with the male figures in her life (to her chagrin.) From those facts, we can deduce Te and Si-- reliance on provable methods and data, and an upholder of traditions, duty, and responsibility-- but in what order do they fall; and what other Functions can we apply?

Now that we know Scully is a Te and Si, we have to scout for Types with Te/Fi and Si/Ne Functions. That nixes all but three options: ES(i)T(e)J, IS(i)T(e)J, and EN(e)F(i)P.

You can tackle this a few different ways: there's only one Intuitive (ENFP) and two Concretes (ESTJ, ISTJ), two Initiatives (ESTJ, ENFP) and one Responding (ISTJ), one Outcome (ESTJ) and two Movements (ENFP, ISTJ), two Directs (ESTJ, ISTJ) and one Informative (ENFP), etc.

Scully is most definitely Concrete, so that leaves us with ESTJ or ISTJ. Initiating/Outcome or Responding/Movement? It could be so easy to point either way depending on one's mood or the day or any other fluctuating factor; but how do you know if it's what she truly is, or just your perception of her?

Well, we know she's an ISTJ because her primary function is Si, not Te (like an ESTJ)-- meaning, she chooses to do her duty by protecting others with loyalty and perseverance primarily over the pursuit of advancement and public recognition for her achievements (unlike her father, an ESTJ, did--post here.) And how else do we know this? By cross-referencing an ISTJ's and ESTJ's Functions: how the different positions of the Functions change their perspectives, strengths, and insecurities.

This is where my handy dandy, never-leave-home-without-it Typing writeup comes into play.

TYPES AND THEIR FUNCTIONS: The End-All-Be-All for Double-Checking

Each Type slots a Function into one of 8 positions-- Hero, Parent, Child, Inferior, Nemesis, Critic, Trickster, and Demon-- and the degree of its strength is either amplified or suppressed in each of these positions.

I've decided to order this writeup grouped by Function position-- Hero, Parent, etc.-- instead of by Type-- ESTJ Functions, then ESFJ Functions, etc. It was how I wrote down my notes; but may, I own, be very confusing to anyone else but myself. (Oh well, can't change that now without a massive headache.)

1st, Heroic Function-- Heroic energy, optimistic, always lead with this function, most capable/confident/comfortable, hardest to challenge (especially with introverted function heroes); introverted functions have power to choose from extroverted functions choices/obligations; has pride, for the glory of it. Hero Functions are what people expect UP FRONT from others: Se Hero expects up front attention, Ne Hero expects up front desirability, Ni Hero expects up front freedom, etc. Their axis secondary is their backup squad.  Si: ISTJ/ISFJ-- long term memory-- conviction, discipline, duty, honor, loyalty, willing to subsist/wait for years, has choice to be loyal (when Se heroes try to carve loyalty out of them); Ne inferior is afraid of other’s intentions, needs them to be stated; SEEK experiences Se: ESTP/ESFP-- short-term memory access-- physical awareness, mechanical prowess, SHARE experiences Ni: INTJ/INFJ-- future for individual-- ability to choose best path forward for SELF, unaware of others’ future, individual wants/future, master of one’s fate, always has a choice (when Ne tries to change their future) Ne: ENFP/ENTP-- future for all -- prescience, metaphysics, aware of all possible futures/realities, master of fate, changes fate Fi: ISFP/INFP-- morals-- personal beliefs, principals, self-worth Fe: ENFJ/ESFJ-- ethics-- collective beliefs, relies heavily on interpersonal relationships for self-worth Ti: ISTP/INTP-- actual truth-- what I think/or know to be true, not about belief Te: ESTJ/ENTJ-- rational/beliefs-- I believe I can fly if proven statistically, all about beliefs. Feel accomplished through achievements; climb the ladder.

2nd, Parent Function-- personal responsibility, to fulfill duty; has hard time developing because it’s attached to maturity, skeptical, pessimistic, require a lot of mental energy/adversity to use/develop; protects self from Child Function; grounds the hero Si: ESTJ/ESFJ--duty, long term memory, responsible with duty/faith/should do’s; hard to motivate without feedback on how to help others; responsibly loyal (not loyal to not just anyone) Se: ISTP/ISFP-- responsible with mechanics/physics/experiences (can be negative with feedback to help others improve/get out of ruts); get others out of comfort zone; mastery of physical environment, and others internally (through “forced” experiences); pull Si parents out of ruts the most Ni: ENTJ/ENFJ-- responsibly wanting things; can be impulsive (Se child), but tempered; responsible passions/desires/intentions Ne: INTP/INFP-- aware of other’s intentions/fates/end results; provide warnings to others; aware others are irresponsible with their futures; LISTEN to their warnings because they are always right Fi: ESFP/ENFP-- responsible with morality; must feel good about themselves/must feel that they are a good person/people think highly of them Fe: INFJ/ISFJ--forceful in social ways (good and bad), forces people to behave socially/ethically, “you’d better follow rules/ethics/etc. In MY home”; caring/nurturing, but responsible with it (will not nurture those deemed unworthy) Ti: ESTP/ENTP-- responsible with logos (if this/then that), skeptical over true/false as stated by others, always verifies more so then Ti Hero; can be close minded, ESTP more so because they require tangible options to make decisions, ENTP can have mind opened with metaphysical possibilities, but writes off tangible options Te: ISTJ/INTJ-- has to find beliefs/reference points, proper routine to find information; if there isn’t a process to find verifiable information, they create one. ISTJ uses common sense as framework to figure out why people don’t behave rationally/to fix issues; INTJ trying to figure out the system/process to identify the systemic issue to fix or abandon at will; core belief systems; Ti critic forces them to verify beliefs, then take beliefs to their graves

3rd, Child Function-- innocence/miracles/ joy, optimistic; second to develop after hero; can loop with Hero to breed immaturity/”insanity”; don’t commit child abuse, guide the child function, soul crushing; can team up with any cognitive functions Si: INTP/INFP-- abuse=they are the most disloyal ever; miracle of steadfastness/ discipline/conviction/endurance/faith Se: ENTJ/ENFJ-- abuse=never letting them show you something, become their audience (humble yourself to listen/learn from them); miracle of giving an artful/crafted experience unrivalled Ni: ISTP/ISFP-- abuse=not letting them do what they want, must have choices; “lady luck”, things always work out (won’t crack head open when motorcycle crashes, lands on soft grass); miracle of will power and freedom Ne: ESTJ/ESFJ-- abuse=never your telling intent/wants; miracle of making anything possible (meta) Fi: INTJ/ISTJ-- abuse=telling them they’re bad people/soulless/lacking in humanity; miracle of sympathy; “I think you’re fantastic because of x/y/z I noticed about you”; demon combo INTJ becomes insanely selfish, burns down the town to get what they want; demon combo ISTJ will get what they want regardless of what you think, screams in the store to get the toy Fe: ESTP/ENTP-- abuse=telling them that they’re uncaring, most innocently caring/always wants to give balloons and candy but is misunderstood to be jerks because they tell bald truths; the miracle of empathy; “wow, you’re really caring” Ti: ISFJ/INFJ-- abuse=telling them that they are stupid, “you’re illogical” ; miracle of truth Te: ESFP/ENFP-- abuse=telling them that they are not smart, “you’re not believable, you haven’t done the research/work”; miracle of knowledge

4th, Inferior Function-- MOST IMPORTANT, where fear/insecurity/vanity exists, most painful pressure point; gateway to HAPPINESS; socially engineer; needs to be maintained/nurtured; if ignored, gateway to Demon Function/Superego activation; can be vengeful (negative) or avenger (positive) fear can be turned into aspiration; can outperform Hero in bursts Si: ENTP/ENFP-- afraid of having a bad experience/not enough faith/duty/endurance/honor; must be forced to try new things; accused of being babies when they’re young; aspirational loyalty/honor, no one can beat their endurance and fortitude Se: INTJ/INFJ-- afraid of giving bad experiences-- vain/insecure over five senses, serious performance anxiety, any new experience (with people) causes them to spiral without reassurance, need performance feedback; aspirational performance, no one can outperform Ni: ESTP/ESFP-- afraid of wanting the wrong thing/don’t know what they want; try to find themselves, have a hard time committing because they might make the wrong choice; aspirational will, no one can conquer/beat down their will power, can plow through any obstacle Ne: ISTJ/ISFJ-- afraid of the “what if”; need common sense/concreteness; must have tangibility; aspirational metaphysics, cannot be out done in “what if”s Fi: ESTJ/ENTJ-- afraid they are not moral enough/that they are bad/lack principals; aspirational altruism, cannot be out moraled Fe: ISTP/INTP-- afraid of making others feel bad (prone to guilt) ISTP will fight over being told they are uncaring, INTP will be apathetic and you will be dead to them; aspirational giving, no one can out beat their support/teaching/giving/caring for others Ti: ESFJ/ENFJ-- afraid they are incorrect/unintelligent/they don’t know what is true or false (dumb blond stereotypes); very smart actually, but wilt over accusations of being stupid because they take time to reach conclusions; aspirational thinking, no one can out think Te: ISFP/INFP-- afraid what others think of them/reputation is everything/needs others to believe good things about themselves (doesn’t matter if it’s true as long as others believe it); aspirational references/academics/popularity, cannot be out populared/academic-ed

5th, Nemesis Function-- gateway to Unconscious, worry/concern, confrontational, in Unconscious 5th and 1st trade places, polarity relationship. Nemesis forces Hero growth, so they hit 4th function (weak spot.) Maturity recognizes attributes of Nemesis and causes it to work together w/ Hero. Ni nemesis confronts Ni parent/hero. Introverted Situations: person’s self; 5th forces 1st to take action for self (if 1st stagnates) Extroverted Situations: 5th and 1st team up to take down outside threats, a.k.a. people Si (the past, duty, honor, obligation, self-discipline): ESTP/ESFP-- takes experiences for self to survive: worried that they lack in discipline/honor/not dutiful enough; force yourself to add obligations to yourself/help others’ with their obligations, even if you don’t want to; nostalgic, fearful tomorrow won’t be as good as today, prone to inaction, failure to launch syndrome; force ESPs to have experiences even if they hate it; Si pulls from experiences to prove wisdom of advice for Se hero to listen to them; ESTP uses 5th to take down weakness, ESFP uses 5th to help others perform correctly. Se (physics): ISTJ/ISFJ-- wants loyalty, will discipline self to give good experiences: worried they will push someone away/ that they’ll be too weird/giving others’ bad experiences; smell good/good manners/physical presentation; don’t push others away; develop self discipline to give good experiences Ni (willpower): ENTP/ENFP-- will help others’ futures so they can help ENPs’ futures: worried about their own future, which causes them to create movement (to their detriment or not), intertwines others’ future with their own; save their futures by helping others’ futures Ne (metaphysics/others’ fates+futures, what happens before will happen again): INTJ/INFJ-- wants to know others’ intentions, will “shine the light” to find out: jump to conclusions about others’ intentions; worried about how others’ fates(lives) get in the way of their own; make decisions based on false perceptions; paranoid; Si demon remembers all the bad and none of the good of others; validate that INJs are important to you/give them good experiences so they remember the present more than the past; talk about your fears of betrayal with others’ before cutting them off; do healthy loyalty check, but never too hard; Ni hero is confused w/ different paths to take, Ne brake checks them before they do anything rash/check for problems before jumping in Fi (morals): ESFJ/ENFJ--prove self is good by helping human beings: worried about self worth-- that they aren’t good/moral/enough, etc. Give validation and support; they need to volunteer to show themselves their “goodness”, be sympathetic with others Fe (ethics): ISFP/INFP-- will force self to be caring for others: they worry they are selfish; put their own needs first above others’; volunteer, be empathetic and serve others, donate art to charity, philanthropic Ti (logic): ESTJ/ENTJ--will force self to research to prove their own intelligence: worried they don’t know what they’re talking about; need facts and data, good to go; do research Te (rationale/beliefs): ISTP/INTP-- instead of worrying if others’ are factually correct, they will verify others’ are correct: te verifies w/ ti hero; requires verification, takes statements with grain of salt, prove yourself as credible and they will defend your ideas to the grave; will mentor/teach others if they see faulty logic

6th, Critic Function-- critical attitude; hypocritical at worst, wise at best; “grandparent”, wise beyond years if developed; manipulated through this function; criticism can snap others out of wrong usages Si: ISTP/ ISFP-- have a hard time committing, but expect others to commit (often labeled by others as psychopaths/narcissists), need to develop self-discipline to reign in commitment; super forgetful-- “memory of an elephant” but then “only remember important stuff” and still forget/justify by saying “well, it wasn’t important then”; call them out by recording with dates something they will forget then call them out on it later (which will make them rage) Se: ESTJ/ESFJ-- elitist hypocrites; have to look presentable, if others aren’t “you are an idiot and I’m better and you’re beneath me”; terrible fashion while criticizing others’ terrible fashion sense; “I can do this better” but they can’t and flop, jump to conclusions about their presentation; wise if they utilize their presentation skills in helping others (“your shoe’s untied, you’ll look foolish if you x/y/z”) Ni: INTP/INFP-- choose to not want anything, avoid risk with inaction; “everyone’s irresponsible with what they want, so I won’t give in to what I want and will have failure to launch syndrome”; if you’re stuck in inaction, you don’t have the right to criticize others for wanting something else; need to prove self and intentions through failure, otherwise failure to launch or get stuck with abusive/manipulative people Ne: ENTJ/ENFJ-- assume others will betray them, jumping to conclusions of others intentions; (casual adult interactions because they don’t believe anyone will really commit to them, distrust others loyal intentions); feel abandonment more than others and are always afraid they’ll be abandoned; need to recognize that not everyone will backstab; won’t allow OTHERS to commit to THEM Fi: ISFJ/INFJ-- feel meaningless/ashamed/worthless/not good enough by default, impossibly high moral standards; can hold others to impossible standards (that they can’t meet either); help others to gain recognition/value to feel good about themselves; checkmate impossible morals standards for self and others Fe: ESFP/ENFP-- super selfish, “I’m such a good person and should be rewarded, but you might be a bad person” at worst, need to prove they’re good by example at best and not assuming others are bad; ENFPS immune to manipulation, but they manipulate others (can be good or bad) Ti: ISTJ/INTJ-- assumes they’re always correct/smartest person in the room; must be used to verify beliefs, “It’s likely you did it, because I perceived it’s possible you did it, and since I’m the smartest you’re wrong and I’m right”; INTJ assumes actions through “patterns”, ISTJ assumes what may happen; wise critic verifies and gives benefit of the doubt Te: ESTP/ENTP-- assume others are stupid, and that graphs/sources/religions are wrong at worst, and must be individually tested/verified at best; lights on fire the garbage while salvaging the gold which it shares with others; hypocritical of judging others as dumb without fact checking

7th, Trickster Function-- weakest function; subjectivity; blind spots; child function of the shadow set; unaware they’ll burn themselves while playing with fire; tries really hard to be aware, but stinks at it (unlike demon function, which doesn’t care) Si: ENTJ/ENFJ-- forget EVERYTHING, need Si users to remember for them or to take copious notes; only retain devastating memories because of their mind’s tiny hard drive; don’t have a sense of duty, “should” are subjective; don’t judge their memory, help them remember Se: INTP/INFP-- unaware of others experiences that they give to them; atrocious fashion sense (train Si child); when trained they implement and never forget the training; unaware of what is happening in the moment, must be made uncomfortable to snap them back into reality Ni: ESTJ/ESFJ-- they think they know what they want, they DON’T; do NOT let them make big decisions alone, they will destroy themselves and you; they need others to make decisions for them/to be dictated to because they think they know what they want, but they don’t (will get scammed or messed over if left to fly solo) Ne: ISTP/ISFP-- unaware of others intentions; weak to others plotting; “it’s not real because I can’t touch it/see it in front of my nose”, then a bus hits; can jump to conclusions about others Fi: ESTP/ENTP-- believe ANYTHING can be a good or bad thing; not sympathetic, but very empathetic; no moral principles; only cares if it means a good/bad thing to YOU; don’t care if others think highly of them, only care about if they feel good about them/value them Fe: ISTJ/INTJ-- zero social awareness, assume others are like them/will value what they do/if others don’t they’re wrong; social norms/rules are subjective and constantly change, so it isn’t a priority for them because anyone can like or dislike anything (very Japanese, no judgment if you do x/y/z/ even if it’s awful as long as you do it in x/y/z/ located spot); often told they’re heartless and terrible because of their unawareness or lack of norms, which punches their Fi Child which is all about sympathy Ti: ESFP/ENFP-- believe ANYTHING can be true or false and that there are no absolutes; cannot understand logic; belief=reality, incapable of logical thought (Ti); ESFP can be master strategist, ENFP become “librarian of Alexandria”; best input using Te child aggregated collective hearsay, have a hard time verifying, open to group think Te: ISFJ/INFJ-- not aware of others beliefs or others thoughts, telling others the basics that others have already thought of; true or false is all that matters (Ti child), and not belief systems of others; if they have the wrong Te input, they can be founded on lies without realizing it; alienating others with faulty data (breaking laws/etiquette/rules)

8th, Demon Function-- most powerful of all functions, most corrupting; source of man’s propensity for evil; when the self bends in on self (trying to replace hero function); the agent of chaos, the Faustian Deal; self gratification; inferior function has to have their needs met and the Unconscious/Subconscious have to be developed to keep the demon at bay Si: INTJ/INFJ-- destroying the world through justice seeking; seek loyal people; if no one is loyal after all of the experiences and cultivation and caring for those others, they say “why bother? I’m going to focus on giving ME a good experience”, and become loyal only to themselves-- ultimate selfishness, and say it’s their new duty to take out revenge on others disguised to themselves as justice, don’t care collateral damage and will gladly take on any cost without remorse (mutual self destruction through vengeance); desires vengeance more with Se inferior, willing to destroy everyone who has wronged them (and themselves to get revenge) because their meaning has been taken from them Se: ENTP/ENFP--reality being destroyed; most destructive of all, hatred of reality; others need to make them comfortable because of their need for comfort and they will provide options and freedom for others; but if their needs aren’t met they cause immediate, slow, and permanent damage; prefer to maim, not murder Ni: ISTJ/ISFJ-- pushing all desires/passions on themselves; afraid of others intent, and if not given reassurance they then focus desire solely on self, becomes debaucherous; the high-chair tyrant Ne: ESTP/ESFP-- destroy the fate of humanity; with no freedom of choice, “no one gets a choice”, and they’ll burn others futures to the ground because theirs is already ruined Fi: ISTP/INTP-- depraved debauchery; if no one recognizes the hoops they jump through to make others feel good/uses them/takes advantage of them, they throw themselves away and become debaucherous to make themselves feel good (almost willful self-destruction) Fe: ESTJ/ENTJ-- not caring what any human feels; if others say they’re selfish/greedy/terrible, they stop caring about anyone and say “no one gets to feel good until I feel good and even then MAYBE I’ll let you feel good” Ti: ISFP/INFP-- no one else’s opinion matters; if no one thinks highly of them or listens to their input/help that they want to provide or thinks they’re stupid, they will say “who cares, no one does, so what I think goes from now on” and will let others implode using the truth, ISFP will make a mega weapon to obliterate existence, INFP will make the ultimate trap to consume everyone Te: ESFJ/ENFJ-- destroys the voice of others; “if no one listens to me, then no one get their say”; must be listened to and given their day in court, and will feel loved/justified; heartless “I told you so” because they weren’t listened to and will rip the structure that they built out from under everyone and all will fall to their deaths

CONCLUSION

Now that we have those resources at our fingertips, you can all bounce off and have a merry time without reading the latter half of this post... because it gets in-depth, in-deep, in-over-our-heads.

IN-DEPTH INFORMATION FROM THE GROUND UP

THE BASICS

It's very easy to Type a character (a person is obviously more complex and requires greater skill.) The Typing goal is to nail down the 8 Functions, the main functions that a person is born with and develop with greater skill as they get older, and figure out how they express those to others in the world. Personally, I find it easiest to assess Worldview then double-check with Self-Expression; but the methods are interchangeable.

Worldview

Worldview breaks down how a person inputs and outputs information: their senses, intuitions, thinking processes, and emotional assessments.

There are four types of Cognitive Functions: Sensing, Intuition, Thinking, and Feeling; and each of those types have primary and secondary characteristics (Si, Se, Ni, Ne, Ti, Te, Fi, Fe.) Every Type will have all eight of those characteristics slotted differently in their 8 Cognitive stacks: first or Heroic Function, second or Parent Function, third or Child Function, fourth or Inferior Function, fifth or Nemesis Function, sixth or Critic Function, seventh or Trickster Function, and eighth or Demon Function. Thinking Functions work in tandem with Feeling Functions and Sensing Functions work in tandem with Intuition Functions; further, opposites attract with their secondary functions, meaning Ti works in tandem with Fe, Se works in tandem with Ni, Fi and Te, Ne and Si. If a Type has a dominant Si Function (E/Si/TJ, I/Si/FJ, etc.), then it will naturally pair with an Ne Function (E/Si/TJ has Te Hero, Si Parent, Ne Child, Fi Inferior; I/Si/FJ has Si Hero, Fe Parent, Ti Child, Ne Inferior; etc.) The same goes for Ti/Fe (INTP has Ti Hero, Ne Parent, Si Child, Fe Inferior), Fi/Te (again, ESTJ has Te Hero, Si parent, Ne Child, Fi Inferior), and Ni/Se (INFJ has Ni Hero, Fe Parent, Ti Child, Se Inferior.)

The goal is to strengthen each weakness and balance each strength, bringing a person into complete order: for instance, a Heroic Function is optimistic; but without the guiding pessimism of the Parent and Inferior Function it and its optimistic (and less refined) Child Function would create an unhealthy loop of chasing what feels good rather than what is healthy or balanced.

But Functions aren't the only aspect of a Type's Worldview.

Pragmatic or Affiliative illustrates what a Type chooses to act on: Pragmatic has an individualistic, "what gets result" lens that will, in extremes, ask forgiveness rather than seek permission. Affiliative has an interdependent, "what is the right or proper thing" lens that will seek permission first rather than forgiveness after. Pragmatic is likely to openly state what they think or do what they want rather than cater to what others expect them to do; whereas an Affiliative is likely to keep quiet and not act if they don't know the dominating opinion, molding their sensibilities to what has been deemed morally correct.

Systematic or Interest branch off as complementary components to both Pragmatics and Affiliatives (and, to a broader degree, Sensing and Intuitive Functions): in dealing with or making agreements with others, Systematic prefers objectivity and following procedure, having found the best possible method and stuck to it across the board; whereas Interest prefers subjectivity, finding the best solution for particular or individual scenarios that will benefit them as well as others. I.e. "Trust the process" versus "what's your angle?" personified.

Self-Expression

Self-expression decodes a person's approaches, conversational style, and methods for moving about in the world.

Direct or Informative illustrates how a Type engages with others: Direct prefers to answer questions concisely or plainly whereas Informative answers with extraneous details for a "fuller" picture. Informative is also less likely to directly state what they want others to do, preferring to say "Maybe we should go to the store sometime?" when the groceries are low rather than request "Could you go to the store today?" (like Direct prefers to do.)

Initiating or Responding illustrates how a Type seeks or engages with new information (and is a better way to tackle the often butchered Extroverted vs. Introverted question): Initiating finds and goes toward new information, actively keeping themselves in-the-loop, actively opening and closing or changing topics in conversations with others. Responding, meanwhile, prefers for others to fill them in on information or to change topics, feeling most comfortable staying on topic or when others take the helm of conversations. (It's often better used as two tiebreakers between Types rather than an initial deciding factor-- unless blatantly obvious, of course.)

Outcome or Movement illustrates how a Type works at reaching a goal: Outcome crafts a straight path to their end goal, working at it diligently until their final product is perfect. Movement works towards their end goal but switches paths or final decisions along the way. The cliched "the goal or the journal" quite literally applies to these two: Outcome focuses on the goal, Movement focuses on the journey.

THE TECHNICALITIES (NOT NECESSARY TO READ)

All of this is not necessary to know until after the Basics of a Type have been nailed down.

Technically, a personality Type points to four sides of the mind: its Ego (primary/"Heroic"), Subconscious (secondary/"Shadow"), Unconscious ("Aspirational"), and Superego ("Demonic"):

For example, an ISTJ has eight main Functions (Si Hero, Te Parent, Fi Child, Ne Inferior, Se Nemesis, Ti Critic, Fe Trickster, and Ni Demon, respectively.) The top four functions (Si/Te/Fi/Ne) are an ISTJ's Ego, the quadrant that an ISTJ uses the most primarily; the latter four are its Subconscious (its "Shadow), the quadrant an ISTJ uses secondarily for growth and maturity (usually kicks in after puberty, after the brain is flooded with hormones for the growing process-- and another reason why puberty is such a messy process.) If you notice, the Se/Ti/Fe/Ni of the Shadow form a "Type" of its own (ESTP); however, these Functions are only a fourth part of a fully formed ESTP, present only to aid or assist an ISTJ's Ego as extra, smaller tools rather than to dominate or override its primary Functions.

The Unconscious and Superego parts of the mind are tied to the fourth functions of the previous two quadrants: The Unconscious quadrant branches off from a Type's fourth or "aspirational" function-- where vanity or insecurity lies-- meaning an ISTJ is aware that their Ne Inferior is only strong in small bursts but aspires for the strength of an Ne Hero. In essence, it shoves that fourth Function into a new quadrant, putting it in first position and effectively flipping their other four primary functions into reverse order (Si/Te/Fi/Ne becomes Ne/Fe/Te/Si); this creates a "shortcut" version of an ENFP, and that means an ISTJ's fourth function can, in short bursts, perform as well as (or in some cases better than) the reverse-order Type's Heroic Function (ENFP.) The Superego quadrant is tied to the Subconscious (or "Shadow") fourth Function-- in this case the ISTJ's Ni Demon. Altogether, an ISTJ's Ne Inferior aspires to have the metaphysics and pattern recognition of an ENFP's Hero; and an ISTJ's Ni Demon transforms into the dark, tyrannical version of an INFJ's Ni Hero ("I WANT and I will not be deterred! NOW!")

Furthermore, some Functions in the "Shadow" are directly correlated to other Functions in the Ego, mirrors of each other, if you will: the Nemesis is the Hero's slight opposite (Se Nemesis to an ISTJ's Si Hero), serving to trip them up and keep them sharp; a Critic is the more opinionated pessimist to the Parent (Ti Critic to an ISTJ's Te Parent); a Trickster is the more damaging optimist to the Child (Fe Trickster to an ISTJ's Fi Child); and a Demon is the more corrosive and destructive side to the Inferior (Ni Demon to an ISTJ's Ne Inferior.) Why is this important? When a Hero Function is out of balance, the Nemesis Function rises up to smack it down: ex. an ISTJ's Si Hero is wired about duty and honor and loyalty, carrying out the traditions and meeting the expectations of those around them; however, an ISTJ can become prideful about what it endures-- taking on more than it can handle and letting others fall by the wayside in their efforts-- and that is when the Se Nemesis makes an ISTJ worried about their performance for others, causing them double back to check-in with and help those they might have neglected. This is the same for the other Functions and their tie-ins-- again, all part of that balancing act so a person is neither too much or too little in any area.

It seems complicated; but really, it still boils down to The Basics section: figure out a Type's Worldview and Self-Expression, and all the technicalities fall into place.

THE MBTI'S MISTAKE: "JUDGING" AND "PERCEIVING" (J vs. P)

Meyers-Briggs Personality Types have wide-range appeal; but, unfortunately, the two women behind this system completely misinterpreted Jung's definitions and original intent for Judging and Perceiving Functions.

MBTI places all Types ending in "P" in the Perceiving category and all Types ending in "J" in the Judging category. Unfortunately, Perceiving does not refer to the overall perception of a Type-- it refers to the input, or perceiving, Sensing and Intuition Functions, Si/Se and Ni/Ne. Sensing and Intuition absorb and assess new data (or input) from the world around them, either internally (Si and Ni) or externally (Se and Ne.) Judging, too, does not refer to an umbrella for judgment types-- it refers to Thinking and Feeling Functions, Te/Ti and Fe/Fi, which are used by a person to make the final decision, or judgment, with the perceiving input they've received. This means that, although ESFPs are "P" Types (because their First Function, Se, is a Perceiving Function) ISFPs, are actually "J" Types (because their first Function, Fi, is a Judging Function.) The same goes for ESTJs and ISTJs (ESTJ's Te "Judging" and ISTJ's Si "Perceiving"), as well as ENFPs and INFPs (ENFP's Ne "Perceiving" and INFP's Fi Judging) and the ten other Types.

That's only one small but incredibly significant mistake the MBTI system perpetuates.

Then why does the Typing system keep the "P" and "J"? Because it denotes what secondary Function the letter directly preceding it has: the "J" in ISTJ dictates that the "T" before it has a little "e" attached, e.g. I/S/Te/J; which further dictates that the "S" before the "T" has a little "i" attached (because the two middle letters have opposing secondary Functions.) Thus, an ISTJ and an ESTJ may have S/Te/J, but only one is a Judging Function.

HOW TO FIGURE OUT THE FUNCTIONS

Since we know that the Functions always pair off into groups of two (Ni/Se, Si/Ne, Ti/Fe, Fi/Te), decoding the type of Sensing a person has will automatically pair them up with an opposite Intuition (or vice versa)-- and that process can be replicated for the Thinking and Feeling Functions, as well.

So, how do we figure out Ni vs. Ne, or Si vs. Se, or Ti vs. Te, or Fi vs. Fe?

(Note: Any words in italics aren't my original notes. All credit goes to CSJoseph and his team and their efforts to build on top of Jung and Berens and Nardi's collective work. Their website-- and other information and disclaimers-- will be at the bottom of this post.)

Ni: Source of hope. Willpower: my choice, my future, my decisions, my wishes, my goals, my results, my objective, my options. ALL about hope. Tenacious (tenacity and its stubbornness and relentlessness is attached to Ni.) Where there’s a will there’s a way. Relentless and dauntless. Choice translates to ownership. Objective Function: what do I want?  Expects absolute freedom of choice. The asking function. 

Ne: Metaphysics, consequences, aware of what others want, gives choices and options. Potential energy. Always seeking desire. The “why?” Envious (whereas Se is jealous.) Ne is seeking hope and are drawn to Ni Types to alleviate their hopelessness. Subjective Function: what do others want? 

Si: Not tenacious; it’s long-suffering and endearing, perseverance. “Made my wounds my work.” Ni is relentless and dauntless by comparison. The sharing function. “I perceived/saw/etc.”

Se: Tenacious, short-term energy and memory, more in-tune with physical surrounds and others' movements than one's own internal sensations. Jealous (whereas Ne is envious.) “They doubted me…”, anything to do with doubt is an Se Statement. Treat objects or people like totems to store their memories "in" (“...there on the page for me”: treating book like totem.) “You this, you that…”

Put in the effort (Si) to create something (Se) possible (Ne) that they want to have (Ni) and experience (Si). A complete cycle.

Ti: Wants to know the actual truth, not what is believed to be true. "What I think or know to be true." Ti user must become hyper-aware of their thoughts, exploring how they impact their mind and outlook of themselves and the world. Thoughts are free to be released and watched as they pass by. One can manually inject thoughts into the stream of consciousness. This process can be used to build new patterns of thought.

Te: Believes in the tried-and-true. Tied closer to collective belief rather than distilled truth. "I believe I can fly if proven statistically." Seeks recognition. Drawn to Ti's unadulterated opinion and fact to extract and test its theories. “We can act if we understand the situation"/“The fact that you are listening to me now shows what technology can do.”

Fi: Personal beliefs and principals take precedent over collective ethics. Self-belief is tied to Te's status and recognition. Evaulates one's own emotional needs.

Fe: Collective beliefs, community ethics, inclusion. Self-worth is tied to reception or exclusion from the group. Evaluate others' emotions and meet their needs. “Beautiful cities, beautiful country, incredible places, etc.” [talking about place visited]/“Very much appreciated…” 

Difference between Ti and Fi

Ti User: They expect action→ “You heard what I said, but you didn’t do what I said to do”

Fi User: Wants to be heard, not listened to and obeyed. Fe/Fi both want validation. “Free to use it if he/she feels like it.”

The Workings of Each Extroverted Function

Your physical surroundings (Se), your desirous surroundings (Ne) your intellectual surroundings (Te), and your emotional and evaluative surroundings (Fe).  

FUNCTIONAL PAIRINGS

The Armaments: Sword and Mace, Spear and Bow

Sword and Mace, or Ti/Fe Types, bases its decisions on logical deduction and the broader ethics of the community: "if this, then that", then followed by external fact-checking. It is very aware of the feelings of others, coming to their aid quickly of their own freewill but also because Ti/Fe people can be easily guilted and exploited. Although an expert at spotting contradictions in the thinking of those around them, it's also at risk of being at fault if there is clouding personal bias or incomplete research (and is also prone to the bad habit of not listening to important Te/Fi data.)

ESTP, ENFJ, ESFJ, ENTP, ISTP, INFJ, ISFJ, INTP

“You know what?…”  [Ti giving personal thought.]

“In normal speeches, it is less than x/y/z. In the case of political speeches, the number is zero...” [Ti is aware of cause and effect.] 

"That was so stupid, x..." [Ti critiquing action, not person]

“I’m sorry this/that…” [Fe readily giving comfort.]

“However many people who can’t speak also have disabilities that don’t allow them to use a keyboard, like me” [Fe aware of the struggles of the community.]

“That’s a good question because…” [Ti is pleased with the logic, and Fe is praising.]

"That’s such an honor, thank you." [Fe gratitude.]

“[I] Didn’t care...” [Ti personal thoughts and Fe emotional outreach.]

"I can do this!" [Sword and Mace and Fire and Wind statement: overcoming a physical test.]

Spear and Bow, or Te/Fi Types, bases its decisions on statistics and data, running through aggregated, respectable sources before applying their own individual moral standard and crafting an applied principle. It's very aware of its own emotions and values. Curating rather than creating knowledge, it indispensably extracts a Ti idea then crunches it through a process until it can be replicated. It often defines behaviors or people by labels to better categorize them.

ESTJ, ENTJ, ESFP, ENFP, ISTJ, INTJ, ISFP, INFP

“Your arguments…” [Te acknowledging or debunking others' opinions.]

“The proof is in the pudding…” [Te statistics and data.]

“...not very disrespectful”/“... is very respectful to me” [Te awareness of acceptable behaviors.]  

“So you believe in it?” [Te outsourcing for others' opinions.]

"This book is a go to source...” [Te curating sources.]

“When you really value and love a person…”/“When these guys put so much into a woman…” [Fi personal investment.]

“x/y/z/ [other person/thing] has a positive view of Communism.” [Fi aware of the moral implications of that statement.]

“I represent [x] person/thing” [Te branding and Fi pride at being part of something great.]

“x person is stupid"/"She’s crazy/she’s fanatic” /“I’m too cool for that…” [Te label and Fi personal morals.]

“I might not have been awarded, but I was venerated for it” [Fi personal satisfaction and Te awareness of awards]

The Elements: Fire and Wind, Earth and Water

Extraverted sensing (Se) likes to give experiences to introverted sensing (Si), so it’s like the wind blowing upon the earth, basically. Introverted intuition (Ni) is kept in check by extraverted intuition (Ne) water and fire.

Fire and Wind, or Se/Ni Types, is the awareness of one's physical environment and how to exert willpower to affect an outcome or begin progress forward. They need freedom of choice; and look to others' actions and results to determine their own course. Giving instead of receiving sensorial experiences is preferable to them; and their short-term memory focuses fully on either the present or their own, personal future. More likely to reject before they're rejected.

ESTP, ENTJ, ENFJ, ESFP, ISTP, INTJ, INFJ, ISFP

“[x] is a movie star…” [Se aware of another's life choices]

“If there is more attention paid [to me] for whatever reason…”//“What I noticed about people…”  [Se awareness of others.]

“...didn’t want to mess up…” [focused on Ni's willpower and personal "I want"]

"The collaboration [between us]..." [an Se awareness of others and Ni focus of personal wants that have been achieved]

“...his mind was what I was after.” [Se awareness of others' capabilities and Ni focus on what one wants]

Earth and Water, or Si/Ne Types, is an awareness of all possibilities and probable outcomes, "predicting the future" by closely watching the actions of others around them. through the actions of others' desires and decisions. They change behaviors and routines only when necessary, preferring their habits and comforts (and, potentially, fear unpredictability); and warn others of past disastrous outcomes with their long-term memory and healthy concerns for safety.

ESTJ, ESFJ, ENTP, ENFP, ISTJ, ISFJ, INTP, INFP

“That’s why I did [x].../“I did this/that…” [focused on one's Si choices or motives]

"It could mean..."/"She didn't want him."/“They wanted x/y/z/…” [focused on that person's Ne wants]

"This is difficult to me." [Si focus on internal struggles]

“I was over here waiting…” [Ne wanting to be wanted]

"I have to tell you this, I have to share (my story)" [Si sharing long-term memory to bond]

“We will know what to do… people will want to take action”/You think… you have to be a part of this”... [Ne collective for future action.]

Bonus Ni/Se and Si/Ne Notes

If an Ni (/Se) User has a crush on an Ne (/Si) User, create an activity and invite them: automatic win because they want to be wanted/included. 

If an Si (/Ne) User has a crush on an Ni (/Se) User, schedule your own thing and invite them to come along if they want, leaving it up to their choice. 

If Ne Users aren't wanted, they despair and (can) become perpetually suicidal. They overcome this by realizing they can get through anything with hard work and self-improvement to achieve desirability. 

The strongest Ne User is one who can move through life despite despair. 

The strongest Ni User is one who can move through life despite paranoia. 

Bonus: Combining the Elements and the Armaments into Houses

The Four Houses are the Rubik's cube of the Armaments (Ti/Fe, Fi/Te) and the Elements (Ni/Se, Si/Ne, showing how each categorization clicks together to form a whole.

Crusader

Sword and Mace, Earth and Water: ESFJ, ENTP, ISFJ, INTP

Crusaders are the champions of fairness and protecting the innocent. They place their faith in truth and seek to bring about a just world. Crusaders seek to make others happy, yet have difficulty accepting happiness for themselves. They must have adversity in life lest they think something is wrong. Crusaders see hardship as ever-present and to be endured.

Templar

Sword and Mace, Fire and Wind: ESTP, ENFJ, ISTP, INFJ

Templars seek to make people better. They are interested in others' well-being and strengthening their character. Templars require freedom to make their own choices and find their own way in life. They teach, mentor, counsel. They forgive and help people heal, yet they can also ghost people who refuse to take responsibility for themselves or who betray them.

Philosopher

Spear and Bow, Earth and Water: ESTJ, ENFP, ISTJ, INFP

Philosophers are studious and academic. Faith, belief, ideas, and prestige are all important. They are drawn to civic duty, charity, and politics. Philosophers live their lives committed to doing the right thing. They also seek to create rules and guidelines for others to follow. They are focused on their own happiness and comfort over that of others.

Wayfarer

Spear and Bow, Fire and Wind: ENTJ, ESFP, INTJ, ISFP

Wayfarers are independent, realistic, and objective. They challenge rules and like to find better ways of doing things. Wayfarers need freedom to live life how they want. They are self-assured and competitive. They seek esteem and loyalty, but doubt others' ability to give it. They tend of be suspicious.

Another Bonus: The Temples

The Temples are another classification of four into groups of four... but this one's kind of cool.

Each Type has four sides to its mind, remember? The Ego, Subconscious (which are the 8 Functions), the Unconscious (what the Ego aspires to be), and Superego (what the Type transforms into when their needs aren't met.) The Temple takes those four sides of the mind and "houses" them in one place.

For instance: An ISTJ's Ego is (obviously) an ISTJ. Its Subconscious (or "Shadow") Functions are Se (Nemesis), Ti (Critic), Fe (Trickster), and Ni (Demon); and, as mentioned above, those form a watered-down version of an ESTP (ESeTiP.) Well, the Unconscious and Superego sides of an ISTJ's mind also have four separate Functions; and those Functions form an ENFP (Unconscious, Aspirational) and INFJ (Superego.) This means an ISTJ shares a Temple with an ESTP, an ENFP, and an INFJ; and those four Types all share a Temple with each other, too.

Soul Temple (ESTP, ENFJ, ISTJ, INFJ)

The defining characteristic of the Soul Temple is an overarching concern with character. 

Generally speaking, the Soul Temple is concerned with other people’s “Souls” or core identity. In specific terms, they are concerned with authenticity, and whether others are presenting themselves truthfully or not. Nothing enrages this Temple more than inauthenticity. 

The primary concern of this Temple is the character of themselves and others. Is their character deep or shallow? Strong or weak? Because this Temple is so focused on character, the types that inhabit this Temple often have extreme virtues and vices. They possess either very strong or very weak characters, with little in between. 

Whether you’re an ISTJ, ESTP, INFJ, or ENFP, you have a built-in focus on character, created by the “secret sauce” comprised of these four types swimming about in your psyche together.  

The focus of the Soul Temple is abstract.

Soul Temple: “I’m not in [x]’s body, I don’t know how they felt/thought…”/"[Depression is] just not wanting to wake up."

Heart Temple (ESFP, ENTP, INTJ, ISFJ):

The defining characteristic of the Heart Temple is passion.  

These types are all about passion and heart. They are drawn to human emotion, expression, and drama. ESFPs and INTJs are all about performance. The ESFPs want to embody the performance and INTJs want to guide the performance. ENTPs are about external passion. And ISFJs consistently facilitates drama around them if there is no drama for them to experience or be a part of. 

For these types, it’s not about the drama itself, but about the high emotional intensity that draws them into passion.  It is no surprise that many actors and stage performers belong to the Heart Temple.  

The focus of the Heart Temple is abstract. 

Heart Temple: “If you’re not a fan of yourself, who else will be?” 

Mind Temple (ESTJ, ENFJ, ISTP, INFP):

The defining characteristic of the Mind Temple is education.  

These types are all about teaching, education, and learning. ISTPs take something apart primarily because they want to figure out how it works, not just because they have mechanical awareness. It is no coincidence that the ENFJ is often referred to as “The Mentor” in personality circles. You will often find INFPs and ESTJs in the education system, or in some field where they are able to educate those around them in a professor-like role.   

This entire Temple is about exploring, developing, and understanding the mind. 

The focus of the Mind Temple is concrete. 

Mind Temple: “My father was my teacher… and when I got old, he gave me all the instruction, he used to teach me to encourage me. No doubt my father [was inspiration.]” 

Body Temple (ENTJ, ESFJ, ISFP, INTP):

The defining characteristic of the Body Temple is creation.  

The word “Body” is related to the sense of physical connection that these types have with the world, and their ability to manipulate it. This can be done by producing things, and sometimes “production” is refined through consumption. They need to consume in order to produce.

A piece of art, money, a new system, or an invention all have physical results. Even beginning a family, often started by ESFJs, is an act of physical creation. 

The Body Temple is all about the physical manifestations of creation.  

The focus of the Body Temple is concrete. 

Body Temple: "x was hugely generous..." often talk about generosity or legacy.

AND THAT'S ALL FOR NOW

What started as a "Type with Me" project turned into a massive undertaking from out of nowhere.

I dedicate this to those of you who were curious, wanted to learn more, but didn't have the time to comb through hours and hours of articles and transcripts and videos.

Now that I've dumped a few years' work into your laps-- with the hope that most of it was legible--

Thank you for reading~

Enjoy!

Disclaimers: This is a self-assessed analysis. This information is not based on the abominable MBTI system (which has been butchered from its original Jungian typology since ~WWII); instead, it’s a combination between the works of Jung’s type psychology, Dr. Linda Berens’ Communication styles, Dr. Dario Nardi’s EEG brain scans and compiled research, and others’ data and practices as accrued and simplified by CSJoseph. This system is based only on the Nature side of Nature/Nurture; and each “Type” is not a “box” to fit everyone into– simply a tool to help understand the basics of the human mind that science has only begun to fathom in its limited scope.

Second Disclaimer: While CSJoseph is indispensable for the information he provides, I must warn that his anecdotes separate from the science are not statements I always agree with (and can be down-right frustrating.) If you hop onto his website, take his opinions separate from the Types with a heaping grain of salt.

And lastly: here is the link to the Companion Guide I use.

#Personality Types and How I Type Them #Typing #Personality Typing #MBTI #but not #mine #resources #the big one #Personality Types #Types #In-Depth #Linda Berens #Carl Jung #Dr. Dario Nardi #CSJoseph #and in a way: #xfiles #x-files #the x files

[herebedragonsbooks]

The cognitive functions

Hi everyone! This is my second post about tipology (especially MBTI) here on Tumblr and in it I will explain more about cognitive functions. If you are new to the typology field and want to know more I would recommend you to check this post of mine (is a quick overview of this whole theory while trying to keep it as simple as I can so that everyone will be able to understand at least the basic concepts) Hope you like it and find it useful! 🫶🏼

General definition

Functions are one of the basic concepts in typology, and it could be sum up as how we process the information we receive and the way our personality traits show up in real life. There are a total of 8 functions: Se (Extroverted Sensing), Si (Introverted Sensing), Te (Extroverted Thinking), Ti (Introverted Thinking), Ne (Extroverted Intuition), Ni (Introverted intuition), Fe (Extroverted Feeling) and Fi (Introverted Feeling).

I promise I will be posting explantions for each function in a few days.I will attach the link to them here as soon as I publish them I promise 😅

The different function positions

Everyone has four basic functions that all together make the “code” of our true personality. Depending on the order the functions are sorted, our personality will be one way or another.

Dominant function: abbreviated to Dom function. It’s the first one, it is the one we use more in our daily basics and the one we develop earlier in life. This function related to the core and most easy to identify values of our personality, this also includes our strengths and weakness.

Auxiliary function: abbreviated to Aux function. The other half of our traits depend on it and this function is the one who keeps the balance with the Dom function.

Tertiary function: we use it in a smaller proportion. We can have some problems to manage it during childhood or early adolescence, but we always learn to deal with it as we grew up (usually in our young adult years). You can see it as an unlocked additional ability, if that makes sense.

Inferior function: this is the set of traits or attitudes that each person will struggle more to be or act like. We only rely on it when the other three functions fail or when we are tired or stressed. A normal person will learn to properly use them around their 30s or 40s, but some people will never be able to understand them.

Extroverted vs Introverted functions

Everyone has two extroverted and two introverted functions (it doesn’t mind if you are introverted, extroverted or ambivert in the general definition of these words). And they are always sorted in one of these two orders.

Introverted Dominant function - Extroverted Auxiliary function -Introverted Tertiary function - Extroverted Inferior function

Or

Extroverted Dominant function - Introverted Auxiliary function -Extroverted Tertiary function - Introverted Inferior function

If your Dominant function is extroverted the first letter of your MBTI will be an E, on the other hand if your dom function is introverted the letter will be an I. And, as I said, this doesn’t necessarily mean that you are an extrovert or introvert person (this is what 16p does). Someone with a Dominant Extroverted function can prefer solitude to being around others; and someone who has an Introverted Dom function can be a social butterfly too.

What does it mean when someone has an unhealthy MBTI type?

When someone can balance their functions properly and end up relaying in their dom or aux functions way to much they become an unhealthy version of their type (which leads to different flwas depending on each type). That's why we need to learn how to use all of our functions

That's all for now, thanks for reading. If you have any question you can ask me on the commentaries, reblogs or in my inbox, I will love to help. Reblogs are appreciated 🥰

#MBTI #mbti #mbti stuff #mbti types #mbti personality types #mbti personalities #mbti functions #typology #typology stuff #16 personality types #16 personalities

[personality-corner]

Nimona & Ballister Boldheart: The Exploration of the Relationship Between an ESFP & ISFJ

Nimona and Ballister’s relationship can be interpreted many different ways: a friendship, a father-daughter relationship… I’ve even seen them interpreted as a brother-sister relationship. However, the intriguing part about their personality types, is that they’re cognitive functions shadow each other.

What this means is while their cognitive functions are complete opposites of each other, the actual order stays the same. Their dominant function is sensing, their auxiliary function is feeling… and so on.

Se-Ni vs . Si-Ne

Nimona lives in the moment, while Ballister bases all of his decisions on his experiences. It is harder for Ballister to change his perspective on the world around him, because the rules of the guard is what he had always been taught. In fact, he doesn’t even begin to challenge the perspective, until his experiences begin to change, and he is able to look at the past with a new set of eyes.

This being said, Nimona can fail to understand Ballister’s cautious attitude, but Ballister can also struggle with Nimona’s impulsive decisions. Both, however, tend to be useful in different situations.

Nimona’s quick reactions often save Ballister from particular situations, while Ballister’s cautious approach to things is also what keeps him and Nimona safe during a lot of situations.

Fe-Ti vs. Fi-Te

Ballister takes a while to challenge the social norms he grew around, while Nimona has been fighting against them from the beginning. What brings her to Ballister’s doorstep in the first place is the fact that he is an outcast, similar to her.

However, as Ballister grows to care about Nimona, the more he is willing to challenge the social norms. Out of everyone in the story, Ballister is the one to see past the “monster” in Nimona, and realize she is a human being with real emotions as well. He saves Nimona, not just by putting himself between her and the sword by letting her know she’s not alone.

While Nimona feels alone in her own emotions, Ballister is the one who is there to validate those emotions.

Why it’s important that Nimona and Ballister are shadows of each other.

Essentially, Nimona is there to challenge Ballister’s perspective of the world. Then having different values and different perspectives of the world around them is essential to the themes presented in the movie. Not only does Ballister keep believing in a system after it failed him, but he tries to fix the problem through the system.

It’s after he meets Nimona, that he realizes the system has consistently failed everyone, and it needs to be dismantled altogether.

#mbti #esfp #isfj #nimona 2023 #nimona

[mbti-notes]

hey, enfj here.

In your Fe vs Fi article, you wrote that FJs were more likely to ruminate because they were trying to make sense of their feelings rather than just accepting them and let them be. And well, as an FJs i’m having a hard time to understand what does it mean. Does it mean that i shouldn’t spend time trying to identify why i feel the way i do, but just accept that i feel like that, and move on/work on what can I do to feel better (if it’s a bad feeling) ?

Sometimes i do spend hours, and even days trying to figure out why do i feel bad, but it’s like i never find the proper answer and i feel paralyzed, as if without the answer i couldn’t do anything to feel better.

You're on the right track. Oftentimes, the desire to find the "cause" of emotions is a subtle way of blaming. Blame is counter-productive to recovery because it requires you to stay stuck in a negative state of mind. One of the most important lessons to learn when it comes to improving emotional intelligence is that a person can't start processing difficult experiences properly until they take full responsibility for having generated their feelings and emotions. Blaming someone/something for "making" you feel bad means you aren't owning up and then your emotional life is always at the mercy of outside forces, beyond your control. This is already covered in the EI articles, please read.

#enfj #emotional intelligence #blame #ask

[psychologylovingintj]

a short analysis of INTJ characters and their trauma

thinkin' bout INTJ anti-heroes and villians and how they always seem to have underlying trauma from their childhoods.

INTJ anti-heroes are some of the most complex, incredible characters, especially when written correctly

oftentimes, many of them have something major that happened while they were younger (ex. abusive parents or bullying) and it seems to manifest in them in an interesting way. us INTJs prefer to ignore and repress our emotions, but obviously, trauma doesn't listen to that.

a lot of INTJ characters become numb to emotion because of the trauma they experienced. they become dissociated and eager to forget their pasts. but part of trauma is confronting and moving on from what happened in the past by gaining closure, not denying, ignoring and pushing it away entirely. so, no, INTJs are not emotionless creatures. we just typically deal with emotional issues in different (sometimes unhealthy) ways.

yet other characters (typically the INTJ villians we see in media) get stuck in an Ni-Fi loop. they bypass their rational decision making (Te aux) when making decisions. they wallow in their emotions and lose all touch with the outside world and reality. they're dissociated and eager to forget their pasts, but in a different way. they turn to violence and want revenge.

i see people argue that a very obvious INTJ character "has to be an INFJ (or INFP), because they cried about their trauma!" no, for one thing, that's not how MBTI works (see: cognitive functions and the Te/Fi axis vs. the Fe/Ti axis), and that's not how people work.

on another note, often, a main part of an INTJ character's arc is overcoming their trauma. it is such a recurring theme that i just bet on it happening sometime in the book/movie whenever i find an INTJ character.

and, of course, the way characters act in media tend to reflect the way people act in real life.

INTJs are often ridiculed and bullied in their school years because we are different from others. our brains work differently and we don't fit in. people undermine how much trauma bullying and childhood abuse can create, and how we're often not taught the correct ways to deal with it, so we just get stuck carrying it our life.

tl;dr - my two points:

INTJ anti-heroes and villians are some of the most complex and interesting characters to unpack, as they often have some sort of trauma that must be overcame for their arc to be complete

just because an INTJ character shows emotion, it doesn't automatically make them an INFJ

#im specifically thinking about a few characters here btw #mainly kim dokja as the anti-hero and henry creel as the villian #they're good examples and i relate to both of them a lot #of course all INTJs are different and this is a bit of a generalization #i just needed a place to get my thoughts out #tw trauma #tw bullying #tw abuse mention #mbti #intj #INTJ #infj #INFJ #mbti analysis

[zpl1nt3r3d-b0n3-zhardz]

Um any pronouns that kind of have the same vibes as dae/daem and ey/em? Thanks!

ae/aers

au/aus

aem/aems

awr/awrs

av/avs

am/ams

alum/alums

ah/ahs

beo/beos

bix/bixs

bex/bexs

ce/ces

cos/cos

cir/cirs

chei/cheis

cy/cys

cherm/cherms

chim/chims

che/ches

chir/chirs

de/des

di/dis

dem/dema

deir/deirs

dex/dexs

dea/deas

drem/drems

dev/devs

em/ems

err/errs

eir/eirs

ex/exs

eim/eims

et/ets

fe/fes

fe/fets

fi/fis

fy/fys

fym/fyms

foz/fozs

fiz/fizs

feir/feirs

fyc/fycs

gem/gems

gy/gys

gei/geis

geo/geos

gur/gurs

hy/hys

hym/hyms

hur/hurs

hiz/hiz

hir/hirs

hier/heirs

hiv/hivs

Ix/ixs

iv/ivs

iz/izs

iw/iws

ip/ips

jy/jys

jem/jems

ji/jis

jed/jeds

jhe/jhes

ky/kys

kei/keis

keim/keims

ka/kas

kye/kyes

keir/keirs

ly/lys

lym/lyms

lir/lirs

leer/leers

lem/lems

mae/maes

meir/meirs

mur/murs (meant to be completely ungendered)

mex/mexs

mo/mos

mym/myms

myr/myrs

mor/mors

mey/meres

nyx/nyxs

nir/nirs

nire/nires

naem/naems

nix/nixs

nem/nems

ner/ners

nis/nies

nym/nyms

ox/oxs

one/ones

on/ons

oym/oyms

ot/ots

oh/ohs

ow/ows

os/ose

per/pers

py/pys

phy/phys

pyx/pyxs

pyxl/pyxls

qei/qeis

q/qs

quoi/quois

qer/qers

qur/qurs

qur/qeres

rei/reis

rhem/rhems

ry/rys

rhy/rhys

rie/ries

se/ses

shi/shis

shee/shees

syh/syhs

sae/saes

sy/syhs

sie/sies

swe/swes

thou/thous

thee/thees

thy/thys

thym/thyms

thon/thons

tre/tres

tym/tyms

tye/tyes

tri/trixs

uv/uvs

um/ums

uh/uhs

uhm/uhms

ve/ves

Vin/vins

v/vs

vei/veis

veir/veirs

vo/vos

vho/vhos

ven/vens

vae/vaes

vaer/vaers

vaem/vaems

vax/vaxs

vev/vevs

vos/vos

wym/wyms

wei/weis

wix/wixs

way/wurs

xix/xixs

xei/xeis

xe/xes

Xem/xems

xie/xies

xet/xets

xer/xers

xip/xips

xt/xts

xym/xyms

xaer/xaers

xeir/xeirs

xep/xipz/xepself

xui/xuis

yro/yros

yem/yems

yo/yos

zhi/zhis

ze/zes

zeir/zeirs

zen/zens

zy/zys

zan/zans

zuf/zufs

zu/zus

zym/zyms

zyx/zyxs

zet/zets

few more little random ones

?/?s

/,/s

!/!s

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will get to other request as soon as I wake up from a nap <3

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Muffins Ennea ADDENDUM:

I wasn’t planning on making a follow-up to that post, but mama/dada’s got some ideas cooking. Mama? Dada? What’s the non-binary version of mama? Nvm, it would sound cringe. I think I’d rather misgender myself than call myself a ‘zaza’ lmao. 😭

Anyway, that post was kinda dogshit. I mean, I stand by a lot of what I said, but I also don’t. So, this is my full personality profile of the bakers!

So, let’s go over the conclusions I made last time:

Pinkie Pie: Enneagram 7w6 with a SP instinct.

Inkie Pie: Enneagram 8w7 with a SX instinct?

Minkie Pie: Enneagram 4w5 with a SO instinct.

Blinkie Pie: Enneagram 4wX with a SX instinct.

Apple Bloom: “IT GOT ERASED AGAIN. APPLE BLOOM SO3.”

Derpy: “DERPY SX7/IDK FUCKING SP6 IDC.”

Babs: “BABS IDFK SP5?? SO5?? FUCKING SP8 dawg I’m too angry to care.”

I don’t agree with all of these anymore, but I stand by the fact Minkie and Pinkie are probably enneagram 4 and 7. I’m not entirely sure of Minkie’s instinct.

In this post, I am going to be breaking down EVERY piece of EVERY characters typology. Maybe I’ll even go into the victims typology in the story? Prolly not.

Minkie Pie 🥧

MBTI: ISFP

After some consideration, I decided Minkie Pie is probably an INFP. And it seemed the consensus on PDB was much the same, which made me immediately reconsider. Just kidding. So, my reasoning is that she is an obvious Fi dom. There’s little question there. Genuinely not understanding how someone thought she was a Fe aux. But the question remains about Ne vs Se.

Minkie has a lot of creative, but practical ideas. And I wouldn’t say she has more ideas than she can execute, nor is she stuck ‘in her imagination.’ So, I can definitely see a Se argument. However, she dwells on the past a lot, which is why FiSi makes more sense than FiNi. In her LARS, I mean, Mad Madusings, she constantly compares her past to the present. She does this to prove some sort of overarching idea, which could be FiNi, but hmmm… her ability to “just know lies” is also very FiNi. I’m torn. Actually, I think I’m going to go with IXFP. She’s clearly a Xe aux. Kidding. INFP makes sense. But ISFP also makes sense especially when in her mad musings she always makes conclusions about people based on past experience to form some sort of archetype of person. Which is Ni…

Ni can look like Si, but Si is more routine based than Ni. I’m gonna go with ISFP for now.

Enneagram: 4w5 (so/sx/sp blind)

Enneagram so4w5 seems right, but I’m also open to sx4. Though, Minkie doesn’t particularly seem envious of others as like, an overarching trait. She just seems pissed at the world. I suppose that could be sx4. I’m a little torn.

Also holy shit, my Ne brain just realised The Game. Minkie’s life is like a video game, trying haurd to beat the stage.

Anyway, I don’t know tbh. Sx4 makes senseeee, but Sx4 is shameless. Minkie is not. Unhealthy so4, ig.

Tritype: 459.

Minkie is obviously a so4, but what about her tritype? Well, because I think she’s a 4w5, her head type is 5w6. Her gut type then, is probably 9w8. I don’t have much good reasoning.

Socionics: ESI

AHH. I hate socionics. I really do. Because I don’t understand it, so it’s bad. Jk. Uh, so, I don’t know. I’m going to go with uh ESI but I can also seen an argument for anything because idk lol.

Big Five: RLOEN.

I don’t like big5 much lol.

Psychosophy: No.

Okay, psychosophy is something I don’t understand.

Temperament: Melancholic.

Come on, it’s really obvious?

Classic Jungian: IF(S)

Pretty obvious.

Conclusion: ISFP IF(S) ESI RLOEN so4 w 5 459 melancholic [dominant].

Blinkie Pie 🥧

Blinkie SX4 is something I stand by. It makes the most sense for her character. She’s probably a sx4w3, as she’s focused on accomplishment and ‘authenticity.’ Her tritype is harder to crack down. She doesn’t seem like a very intellectually driven type, but she does value community ‘at least if we were all locked away, we’d have each other.’ Which is an argument for 6, however… I don’t know. Probably 468. Her MBTI… ah god. Okay, so, unlike that one Deviantart post, I am going to go out on a whim and say she’s probably not an ESTJ. Cognitively extroverted 4 is pretty weird. I’m completely unsure of her MBTI. She has values, but they’re influenced from her friends and father. But Fe anywhere in her stack is weird. ISTJ could work? In Inkie’s Stellar Obsession, she spends the whole time telling Inkie how ridiculous her idea is. Granted, it’s also because she doesn’t like Stella (Fi) but still. ISTJ 4 is uh… weird. So maybe ISFP? I know I’m switching stacks but ugh. I don’t know. Te-Fi is obvious. Si-Ne and Se-Ni I’m more confused about. Maybe Se? She’s very practical. ISFP is the best guess I can give. Then, that would be ESI again, right? She’s probably SCOEN. And yes, S makes sense because introvert =/= unsociable. And she’s not limbic, just because she’s mentally ill. She’s probably a choleric-melancholic?

Conclusion: ISFP IF(S) ESI RCOEN sx4 w 3 468 cholmel.

Inkie Pie 🥧

Enneagram: sx8w7

Inkie, a character I wasn’t sure about. I’m still not convinced she’s an 8. She could be a 9. But she doesn’t seem to struggle with self-inertia.

“Ah, Marblestone "Inkie" Pie... what a Sugarcube. Inkie is the second oldest of the four pie sisters, though she grew up as the oldest since Minkie had not been found yet. she is often very honest, but if you are not on her good side, her honesty is blunt and very insulting. she speaks in a firm, low voice, and is very confident. she seems very proud, holding her head up high and walking with a strut. she has heavy lidded eyes, and her smile can be quite intimidating and frightening, even when she tries to act casual. inkie is a natural born leader, and has been known to be the "protective" pony of the group, and makes a majority of decisions. sometimes she gets pissy when her decisions are shot down, but this never lasts long when it comes to her friends and sisters. Inkie has the ability to love as strong as her ability to hate. she often uses pet names toward her friends and sisters, such as "hunny," "sweety," "sweeatheart," "love," "dear," and many others. she'll address her sisters as "dear sister" when being reassuring toward them. since inkie and Blinkie are the sisters that have spent the most time together, they seem very in tune to each other, thinking along the same lines and coming to similar conclusions. I was originally going to give inkie pie hallucinations, but I decided against it. she's too in control of herself. [that’s not how hallucinations work but ok hunny]”

So, what we can learn from this is that Inkie is honest, blunt and confident. She’s proud, protective and a natural born leader. She makes the decisions for the group and doesn’t like her ideas being shut down, but she doesn’t care if it’s her sisters. Inkie has the ability to love just as much as she hates, which completely goes against the idea that she views other ponies aside from her sisters as toys and not something to love/hate but I digress.

In the actual story, Inkie displays these behaviours several times. This leads me to believe she could be an 8 or 9, but which?

Well, Inkie doesn’t value peace, come to think of it, so she’s likely an 8w9. I still say 8w9 > 8w7 because she’s much calmer than other wings. I view wings more as flavouring than having to match up 100%. So, I’m leaning 8w9. Actually, I think 8w7 makes more sense… she doesn’t have much 9 qualities.

So, what instinct? I still stand by sx/sp 8. So sx8 then.

Tritype: 874

We know her core type (gut) is 8, and I’d imagine she struggles the least with shame. So, we need to figure out her head type. She could be a 5, as she doesn’t seem to struggle with any of the anxiety 6’s do, but 7 is also likely. She’s an unconventional 7 if so, but still. She’s probably 874. But I can see 854. I should probably make my mind up though. Hmm… 874.

Besides, it doesn’t make much sense to have your wing not be your fix. It’s not impossible but me.

MBTI: ESFP

Okay, so, I’m going with Se-Ti here. You might be wondering why, but it’s actually very simple. When going into typing characters, I always assume they’re a sensor until proven otherwise. However, I don’t let myself get biased. I was sure Inkie would turn out to be an intuitive. However, re-reading, Inkie is actually very grounded in reality. She isn’t creative, more of a ‘technical thinker’ as she says and focuses on the present moment. She also makes decisions primarily based on what she wants, her own ‘values.’ Values don’t always have to be moral, and she’s a clear example of that. She values her sisters, but not other people, hence why she protects them but dismisses the other. I just can’t see Fe-Ti or Ne-Si.

Big five: SCUEN.

Might seem weird, but Inkie actually does tend towards the calm side of things. She goes into things with little plan when her sisters aren’t around, and egocentric is a no brainer. N is self explanatory; I is usually more of an experience seeker.

Temperament: Choleric-sanguine is the closest fit to her. You may argue phlegmatic but she does not try to serve others in the slightest lmao. She’s selfish.

Conclusion: ESFP sx8w7 874 SCUEN choleric.

Oh, fun fact, “yup! i like to think that there's something running in the family. pinkie is bipolar, inkie is scitzophrenic (sp?), and blinkie has bordeline personality disorder XD” Where do we get any idea of that in the story, through their behaviour? Nowhere.

Also, despite Inkie knowing her actions are wrong, and the others, Rei said this regarding Derpy: “she doesn't think it's wrong. none of them do. you gotta put yourself in the shoes of a sociopath; they each may have different reasons why they think the way they do, but when your brain works in this fashion, your view of the world is warped.”

Pinkie Pie:

Enneagram: sp7w8

Alright! Let’s go back to this! Reminder that I am ONLY talking about Muffins Pinkie Pie here, and not MLP Pinkie Pie, who is very different from Muffins Pinkie Pie. So, I don’t think my typing was wrong at all. But I’ve been considering 8 for Pinkie. However, I’m not sure if she’s 7w8 or 8w7. I think Pinkie starts off as a 7w8 but Reitanna randomly decides to make her a megalomaniac. So, it’s complicated.

8’s don’t like vulnerability, but Pinkie doesn’t care. In fact, she’ll use her vulnerability to manipulate Apple Bloom in Silence Is Silver. So, that rules 8 out.

That being said… well, we’ll cross tritype when we get there.

So, I stand by her being a sp7w8. You might think Pinkie is too pessimistic to be an 8, but she isn’t a pessimist. An edgelord, but not a pessimist. She only confronts her dark attitude in life when literally being sentenced to death.

Tritype: 782

I think Pinkie is a textbook 782, and I’ll explain why. I was inclined to say 728 but I think she struggles with shame the least. She is very aggressive in getting what she wants, but she also has a 2 fix because she views her baking as a give and take.

"You do not control lives, Pinkie Pie," Celestia growled lowly, feeling hatred toward the party pony. "And you have caused more sadness than you can even imagine..."

"Have I?" sneered Pinkie. "With all of the cupcakes and pastries I brought to parties? With all of the money I helped bring in when I started working at Sugarcube Corner so that the Cakes found financial stability? To the point where they were able to care for themselves and two brand new foals when they came along?" She suddenly stamped her hoof on the floor, making everypony jump once again. "I know for a fact that every single pony in this room consumed quite a large amount of my special pastries, including you, Princess Celestia, Princess Luna. And I can recall each and every one of your reactions after taking the first bite! You want to know what it was?" Her furious eyes scanned the room as she was met with no response. Then she chuckled lightly. "A smile."

She’s clearly just messing with Celestia, but there is some truth to what she is saying. She clearly views what she’s doing as “good” to a degree because other people like her gifts. 2’s struggle with pride, and because Pinkie thinks she’s helpful, she feels she is entitled to do what she wants. This is a light fix, but still there.

Pinkie Pie also has a need for her cupcakes to be THE BEST, leading me towards a 2w3 > 3w2 fix. Being the BEST isn’t her main goal, but it’s up there.

Oh, fun fact about Fluttershy by the way, Reitanna was considering making her a baker. As a FuckedUp!PinkieShy shipper (like in an AU where they’re both fucked up idk) I would’ve loved that.

“Yeah, your story makes more sense than mine, but I like the "what ifs" you can come with by reading stories like these. Could you imagine Fluttershy turning into a psycho with Pinkie, or getting super mad and taking revenge?” “I actually considered that, but just like you said, it seemed a bit OOC”

MBTI: ENFP.

Pinkie Pie is probably an ENFP. At first, I considered Se dom, however she is VERY opportunistic and has constant ideas. Who even gets an idea to bake someone because of a cheese grater? Poor writing, or a Ne character? Either way, I think Ne-Si makes more sense than Ni-Se. Pinkie actually does use Si to a degree. She gets enraged when Celestia takes her friends away (even if she did it herself. Hypocrisy!) and also has a very strict schedule on how she does things. Fi > Fe might seem very strange however Fi users can manipulate. Pinkie doesn’t care at all about societal standards. She only keeps up with them to avoid being caught for her crimes. Also, while she hides her depression, it’s mostly to protect herself rather than her sisters. In Twilight’s Fall, she has no problem being pessimistic to her friends and saying horrible stuff.

OCEAN: SLOEI.

Pretty self explanatory. I don’t think I need to explain this.

Temperament: Sanguine-choleric.

Conclusion: Sanguine-choleric sp7w8 782 ENFP SLOEI

Apple Bloom:

Oh Apple Bloom- she’s had it rough. Definitely a type. So, for her enneagram… I decided to look at Broken Tiara, as it’s the story I think characterises Apple Bloom the most, and Silence Is Silver. We learn from the former that Apple Bloom struggles with rage and wrath. She wants to cause other people pain because she’s suffered. Apple Bloom self-sabotages in the story, killing her very own big sister but using Pinkie Pie to fill the gap. She destroys her family, because they don’t matter anymore, Pinkie Pie does. She believes killing is her destiny.

Enneagram: sp6w7- explanation below

Reitanna says this about Apple Bloom, “Actually, no, it's nothing physical, it's a trauma model. Apple Bloom had already shown sociopathic traits by joining pinkie in the first place, but what people don't realize is, the actual act does a lot more to the mind than watching someone lose their life. First, with each incident she witnessed, stress and trauma were put on her brain little by little, meaning it was literally breaking her sanity. Once she did it herself, the power of this act traumatized her so severely, it finally broke her sanity. Since she is a child, the effects of this are much more detrimental than to an adult, due to the fact that the brain is still developing. The damage has caused her to develop one or two personality disorders, which is common in trauma models in children. Since she has been treated so kindly by pinkie pie, Apple Bloom's brain associates these acts as good things because she has been shown positive reinforcement by her mentor, therefore, she doesn't comprehend the fact that something bad has happened to her. She is under the assumption that THIS is who she really is because of pinkie's manipulation. This loss of reality makes her, by definition, insane.”

“I can't pinpoint exactly what she has because I would need to look at all of the personality disorders, but she's definitely not sane.”

Personally, I won’t theorise on what personality disorders Apple Bloom could have, as she is still a child, and children usually get diagnosed with conduct disorder rather than ASPD, so I don’t want to speculate too much.

Apple Bloom compartmentalises her empathy and true nature for her trauma and manipulated self. ("Nah," she chuckled, “That wasn't the real me. It never was. This is the real me, the other one was just tryin to keep me locked away.")

She has an obsession with destruction. She refers to wanting to destroy other ponies in Broken Tiara and says the exact same thing in Silence Is Silver when talking about Silver Spoon. She’s also power-driven, much like Pinkie Pie, and wrathful.

In ABGHCM (Apple Bloom Gets Her Cutie Mark) we see more of this behavior repeated. “I think this was all meant to happen. Everything happens for a reason, right? That's why I was the one who volunteered to take you when your number came up."

She justifies it all with it being her destiny. And getting her cutie mark (one of the worst utilising of this plot device ever) helps her solidify this. I sorta have a theory that Pinkie used dark magic or smth to give Apple Bloom that cutie mark to manipulate her further, but that would be silly. Perfect for Muffins, I can’t take a single thing in this story seriously.

I had to go back to the quiz to get more characterisation of Apple Bloom. If you want all the answers by the way, I’ll drop them right here:

Pinkie Answers:

"How are you today?" "Fine and dandy, right as candy!"

"When it comes to friendship, what do you think is most important?" "Support!My friends are my life! I'd be nothing without them!"

"If you found yourself in a very scary situation, how would you react?" "HA Me? Afraid? I fear nothing."

"What do you think of the world and the people in it?" "Oh, I LOVE everybody”

"If somepony attacks you, how do you respond?" "Oh, that was an attack? It felt like a bug bite.”

"What's your idea of a good time?" “EVERYBODY needs to be having a good time! Everybody that matters, of course!"

"How would you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "Life isn't about revenge, but every body else can do as they please!"

"How do you deal with sadness?" "I suppress the sadness by pretending it's not there."

"Do you think you might be crazy?" "No pony is entirely sane! I'm crazy in my own way!"

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?" "Oh, I NEVER do anything bad!" (Explicitly contradicted by her saying "we're bad people" in On Trial)

"What do you think of life?" "I love life! It's great!"

"How are your dreams?" "I have good dreams. If they turn bad, I just make them good again." (Contradicted in Sting.)

"How was your childhood?" "It was depressing until I was inspired to go my own way and find happiness."

"Someone just lied to you. How did you find out, and how do you respond?"

"I don't really care if they lied to me, l'm a pretty big liar myself."

"I see you have cupcakes. May I have one?" "Of course, take two if you'd like!"

"How do you perceive the mind?" "It's an amazing machine that can create wonderful things. Without it, we'd be boring."

"You know, I think you're an idiot." "Ha, yeah, sometimes I am."

"Last question... how is your sleep?" “I never want the day to end, so I stay up late until I pass out. My energy can keep me up for hours when it's time for bed, so I only get a few hours of sleep. It doesn't take a huge toll on me, though."

Minkie Answers:

"First of all, how are you doing today?" "Same as every day.”

"When it comes to friendship, what do you feel is most important?" "Love. The love shared among friends is the true key to happiness."

"If you found yourself in a very scary situation, how would you react?" "I hardly fear things. Whatever it is, I'll make it more afraid of me."

"What do you think of the world, other than yourself and those close to you?" "Scum. Trash.”

"If somepony attacks you, how do you respond?" “They know better than to attack me. So they wouldn't."

"What's your idea of a good time?" "If my friends are smiling and laughing, then I'm having the time of my life!"

"How would you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "I need to make sure they feel ALL of my pain."

"How do you deal with sadness?" "I'm honestly not very good at fighting it.”

"Do you think you may be crazy?" “I know I'm ill, but l'm not crazy. Crazy ponies aren't aware of their actions."

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?" "I only feel guilty if I did it to somepony I love, otherwise I feel nothing."

"What do you think of life?" "Life? What life?"

"How are your dreams?" "Mostly nightmares about traumatic events in my past. They wake me up frequently."

"How was your childhood?" "I was hurt and neglected for a long time. It has broken me, but I find things to make me feel better."

"Somepony just lied to you. How do you find out, and what do you do?" "They lied to my face. I can tell if somepony is lying immediately to me, and I make sure they stop.”

"I see you have cupcakes. Can I have one?" "Yes, but just one, okay?"

"How do you perceive the mind?" "Sometimes it's not so good to us. It can make us think things we don't want to think."

"You know what? I think you're an idiot.” “…”

"Last question, how is your sleep?" "Well, since I have trouble sleeping, I'll do whatever anypony else is doing if THEY are still up. Otherwise I lay in bed, hoping sleep will take me. This makes me sleepy during the day. When I DO sleep, my nightmares will wake me back up.”

Blinkie answers:

"First off, how are you doing today?" "What's it to YOU?"

"When it comes to friendship, what do you feel is most important?" "Honesty. I think it's important to stay honest with your friends."

"If you found yourself in a very scary situation, how would you react?" "If I’M not the cause of it, how scary can it be?"

"What do you think of the rest of the world, other than yourself and those around you?" "Ha! The world is full of ponies too DUMB to see the blatant truth in front of their eyes."

"If someone attacks you, how do you respond?” “Are you serious?”

"What's your idea of a good time?" “I need to be in control of the activity, or I'm not happy." (Well we can rule out A > E in OCEAN)

"How would you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "I will let them feel all the power of my rage.”

"How do you deal with sadness?" "With anger. Turn sadness to anger. It's the only way to cope." (Real, relatable)

"Do you think you might be crazy?" "Why would you ask that? Are you implying something?!"

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?" "I don't care. I MEANT to do it.”

"What do you think of life?" "Life is only as good as what I make it."

"How are your dreams?" "My dreams are however I want them to be. I can lucid dream." (Contradicted in Sting)

"How was your childhood?" "My family never supported anything I did, and I hated them for it. I was disciplined often."

"Someone just lied to you. How do you figure it out?" "Doesn't matter how I find out. I'll… make sure they regret it."

"I see you have a cupcake, may I have one?" "If you really wanted one, you'd go get it yourself.”

"How do you perceive the mind?" "It's the thing that creates ideas, good and bad. You don't have to do what it says."

"You know what? I think you're an idiot.” "[navy seals copypasta]”

"Last question, how is your sleep?" "I feel uncomfortable if everyone is asleep and I'm not. I might purposefully keep somepony awake if l'm not tired."

Inkie Answers:

"First off, how are you doing?" "If I get my way, I'm good any day."

"When it comes to friendship, what do you think is most important?" "Loyalty. I always protect those who are dear to me."

"If you found yourself in a scary situation, how'd you react?" "I don't scare easily. I'm decently calm."

"What do you think of the rest of the world, other than yourself and those close to you?" "Do you REALLY consider them individuals? Pfft."

"If someone decides to attacks you, how do you respond?” "Anyone dumb enough to try and attack me will regret it.”

"What's your idea of a good time?" "Everything needs to be to MY liking."

"How would you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "To them, it'll seem like it didn't affect me. But when they least expect it, I will go to extremes to make them pay."

"How do you deal with sadness?" "Well, I rarely feel sad at all, but when I do, it's not pretty."

"Do you think you might be crazy?" "Some people may consider my behaviour crazy, but if in my right mind, is it really so?"

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?” "If everything that happens happens, can we really do anything wrong?"

"What do you think of life?” "I don't hate life, I hate the concept of it. It's wasted on those who don't appreciate it.”

"How are your dreams?" "I prefer the bad dreams because they give me cool ideas. They're more frequent than the good dreams."

"How was your childhood?" "My family put a lot of pressure on me. The affects stay with me to this day."

"Somepony just lied to you. How did you find out, and how do you respond?" "If I have a gut feeling I'm being lied to, l'll try and force the truth out of them."

"I see you have a cupcake or two. May I have one? "I'll think about it... how about you try and impress me for it?"

"How do you perceive the mind?" "The mind is whatever you make it."

"You know, I think you're an idiot." "Hmph. Likewise."

"Last question, how is your sleep?" "I like to settle down and chill, enjoying the company of anypony else who is still up. I'll easily go to sleep when they do. I have a bad habit of waking too early, which makes me sort of groggy, but l'm fine."

Apple-Bloom Answers:

"How is your day?” "I'm cautious, but I know I'II be fine!"

"When it comes to friendship, what do you think is most important?" "Dedication! I think friends should remain loyal and true."

"If you find yourself in a scary situation, how would you react?" "Sometimes the fear DOES strike me, but responding with courage is a true sign of character." (Sx6? Sp6 with a sx second instinct and so blind?)

"What do you think of the world, other than yourself and those close to you?" "Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. In fact it's REALLY funny."

"If somepony attacks you, how do you respond?" "I may be small, but i'm tough. Don't underestimate how badly I can kick their butt."

"What's your idea of fun?" "If I can let loose completely, it's a party!”

"How would you get revenge on those who've hurt you?" "They hurt me, so I want them to hurt 10x more."

"How do you deal with sadness?" “I have to cry it out, but I don't want anypony to see me doing it."

"Do you think you might be crazy?" "Of course not! I am who I am! Everypony else is crazy!"

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?" "Sometimes I feel a twinge of guilt, but if I ignore it, it goes away."

"What do you think of your life?" "When I was young, everything seemed so dandy... When did it start feeling so terrible?" (I know she’s had a terrible childhood but girl- WHEN?)

"How are your dreams?" "Sometimes my dreams are pretty bad, and they stem from bad memories or feelings."

"How was your childhood?" "I was raised well by my family, but I chose my own path, one they didn't approve of."

"Somepony just lied to you, how do you find out?" "They lied to me? I'll lie right back, in that way it'll be my revenge."

"I see you have a cupcake, may I have one?” "Why not? I have them, so l'll share them!"

"How do you perceive the mind?" "It's fragile. If it breaks, it's unlikely to be fixed."

"You know, I think you're an idiot” "I'll remember that next time I consider doing something nice for you."

"Last question, how is your sleep?" "I spent all day having fun, so I feel exhausted toward the end of the night. I try to stay up with my friends, but end up falling asleep at some point or another. Sometimes my bad dreams wake me up in the middle of the night, but I can fall asleep soon after."

BabsSeed Answr:

"First off, how are you doing today?" "I can't complain, really!"

"When it comes to friendship, what do you feel is most important?" "Giving back. When a friend helps you when things are bad, it's important to pay it forward."

"If you found yourself in a very scary situation, how would you react?" "Fight or flight? Ha, my first instinct is to fight.” (Counter6)

"What do you think of the world aside from your friends?" “They are weak fools who can't think for themselves."

"If someone attacks, what do you do?" "No one gets away with attacking me."

"What's your idea of a good time?" "If my friends and I don't have to hold anything back, it's a PARTY, PARTY PARTY"

"How would you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "Hahaha... let's say... no one gets away with hurting me."

"How do you deal with sadness?" "…have to distract myself.”

"Do you think you might be crazy?" "I am perfectly sane! I know exactly what I'm doing.”

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?" "Well, no pony knows l'm the one that did it. It's only wrong if I get caught." (Reitanna stop making TOOL references every two seconds challenge: IMPOSSIBLE)

"What do you think of life?" "Life was really unfair to me. But it's just a game, right? Now I'm the one winning."

"How are your dreams?" "My dreams are usually pretty nice. Sometimes I get bad ones, though that don't bother me."

"How was your childhood?" "| experienced heavy losses so young in life, as well as suffered from violent bullying. I was depressed until a dear friend helped me get back up."

"Somepony just lied to you. How do you figure that?" "I'll find out on my own. I'm smart, so I know. I’ll play along with them until I get the chance.”

"I see you have a cupcake. Can I have one?" "Depends... what have you done for me lately?"

"How do you perceive the mind?" "The mind is sacred. It should be fed knowledge, it should be soothed with meditation." (5 fix?)

"You know, I think you're an idiot." "Oh yeah? Well [a yo-mama-fat type insult, literally]”

Last question... how is your sleepis?" "Well, I make full use of the evening until I start to feel tired. Then I listen to music as I fall asleep. I keep it on low volume, and on repeat, so I hear my favourite songs in my dreams."

Our Muffins Blorbo 🫧:

"First off, how are you feeling today?" “I am so, SO happy today.”

"When it comes to friendship, what do you think is most important?" "Happiness! If my friends are happy, I am too!" (Fe > Fi?)

"You find yourself in a scary place and situation, how do you react?" "Sometimes I give into fear and run, it depends on HOW scary it is."

"What do you think of the rest of the world, other than yourself and those close to you?” "Oh! Everyone is great, there are a few bad ones though."

"If somepony attacks you, how do you respond?” "Why would they do that?! I haven't done anything wrong! have a right to defend myself!” (Hypocrite)

"What's your idea of a good time?" "Surrounded by all my friends no matter what!”

"How would you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "I'm tired of getting harmed. My revenge is going on anyone get my hooves on."

"How do you deal with sadness?" "I have to cry. If you cry, you feel better afterwards."

"Do you think you might be crazy?" "I'm not crazy, my reality is different than yours!"

"When you do something bad, how do you feel?" "My GOOD actions make up for my bad ones."

"What do you think of life?" "I feel betrayed by life. No pony exists on purpose. But I find reasons to smile!"

"How are your dreams?" "Usually my dreams are so real, I mistake them for reality. They can be good or bad."

"How was your childhood?" "I thought everything was good, but then I got abandoned and had to find my own way."

"Somepony just lied to you. What do you do?” "I am told by a friend and feel hurt by a liar, and tell them to never talk to me again."

"I see you have a cupcake, can I have one?" "I'll give you more than one! You can have half, and l'll have half, that way it's even."

"How do you perceive the mind?" "Sometimes you see things differently from others because your brain is programmed differently." (And rei says she isn't autistic coded...)

“You know what? You’re an idiot.” “I am NOT an idiot.” (10/10 defence.)

"Last question, how is your sleep?” ur sl "I try to stay up with my friends, but end up falling asleep first. just get really tired if it's been a long day, and sometimes I'II also take naps. I DO feel refreshed while I'm awake, though."

RUN:

"First off, how are you doing today?" "Things are great!"

"When it comes to friendship, what do you think is most important?" "Connection. I just love my friends so much, I don't know what I'd do if I lost them."

"If you found yourself in a very scary situation, what is your reaction?" "I tend to flee."

"What do you think about the rest of the world other than yourself?" "Some are good, some are bad, that's just the way it is."

"If somepony attacks you, how do you respond?" "I would ask them why they attacked me!"

"What's your idea of a good time?" “I like to party with my friends, but I also like to make new ones."

"How do you get revenge on those who hurt you?" "Revenge never solves anything."

"How do you deal with sadness?" "I just try to think positively, even when crying."

"Do you think you are crazy?" "Well, what do you mean by crazy? 'Crazy' as in eccentric, 'crazy' as in insane? I need some more context!" (Reitanna hates rational people who ask questions.)

"When you do something bad, do you feel bad?" "I feel guilty, and that guilt doesn't go away until I confess."

"What do you think of life?" "Life is good. I wake up every morning and I just feel so good!"

"How are your dreams?" “They can be good, they can be bad. It just depends on what my brain is dealing with at the time."

"How was your childhood?" “There were good times and bad. My experiences made me who I am."

"Somepony just lied to you. How did you find out, and how do you respond?" "Why would somepony lie to me? No, there must be some mistake. People don't just... LIE... do they?!" (Yeah no one thinks this...)

"Can I have a cupcake?" "I'm not gonna finish them all on my own, silly!'"

"How do you perceive the mind?" "Your mind is like a sanctuary; it tells you what is right and what is wrong."

"You know what, I think you're a fucking idiot." "That's not very nice. How can you say something like that so easily?"

"Last question, how is your sleep?" "I like to iust settle down and read or something else calming) until I'm tired enough to sleep. I don't have any troubles falling asleep at all."

Anyway, let’s look at Apple Bloom’s answers. She’s optimistic (believing everything will be okay), loyal, “brave,” condescending, anger driven and spiteful. Things we already knew. Her enneagram being 1 is unlikely, unless she’s a very unhealthy one. 2 isn’t impossible, but she doesn’t seem very heart triad, you know? Probably not a 5. 6, 7, 8 and 9 are on the table. I think 6 is the most likely, and we can rule out 8 and 9. She’s probably a sp6w7.

“Preservation Sixes want to feel the embrace of the family, to be in a warm, protected place where there are no enemies. They search for an "idealized other" for protection, and they can have issues that look like separation anxiety. Like a child who needs to hold on to the mother, these Sixes don't feel confident in defending their own self-interests and survival.”

“These Sixes seek to escape anxiety by seeking the security of protection; therefore, they become dependent on others. They have a passion for compensating for the fear of separation, which manifests as warm and friendly temperament. Their driving need is therefore for something like (neurotic) friendship or warmth, which makes this subtype the warmest of these Sixes. They tend to be in a good mood and have a generally pleasant disposition. They look for a bond of intimacy and trust in their relationships, and they fear disappointing others, especially those who are closest to them. Being warm is their way of getting people to be friendly so they won't be attacked.”

However, due to her sx instinct being second, I think she still has some sx 6 traits. Also,

She doesn’t seem to hide her anger. In fact, she actively goes against Pinkie, but that’s when she’s REALLY pissed off towards Diamond Tiara, not her usual mode. In fact, she seems scared of Pinkie otherwise.

Could be sp7, but I doubt it.

Tritype: 638

Okay, figuring out her tritype was HELL, but I think I’ve got it down. So, her heart type was the hardest to find, but I think she’s a 3 fix. Why? Because she’s obsessed with getting her cutie mark, as a means of protection (6 core) from her bullies. As for her gut type, I think we can rule out 1, as she doesn’t really care about morality, and 9, because she isn’t conflict-avoiding.

MBTI: ISTP

So, probably a Fe-Ti user, but I can see her Ti being higher than Fe. As for her other functions, I think… Se-Ni? Maybe Ti-Se-Fe-Ni… but that doesn’t FEEL right. That’s ISTP, right? Um…

She uses Ni in ABGHCM when she predicts Applejack will need stronger restraints, and she has very Ni attitudes in life (“this was meant to happen.”

Ni-Fe? INFJ? Unlikely. Her Fe isn’t THAT strong. Tert Fe seems right. ESTP? But E6 is cognitively introverted. She uses a LOT of Ni.

Actually, I can see Fi-Ni for Apple Bloom, but maybe Inferior Fi? No… Tert Fi? What “values” does she have though? Literally none.

ISTP? She’s kinda manipulative, but inferior Fe users still have Fe in their stack. I mean she literally taunts Applejack by saying “One last bit of sisterly bonding, right?”

And she HAS gone against group values before… I don’t know. I can’t guess very well, but ISTP is the closest I can guess.

SLOAN: SLUEN

Temperament. Sanguine-choleric. [angry sanguine <:()

Conclusion: sp6w7 638 ISTP SLUEN Sanguine-choleric.

Derpy Hooves:

Enneagram: sp7w6

Derpy!! Our blorbo!! We only have Derpy and Babs left, so let’s start with our autistic little blorbo. So, Derpy was abandoned from a young age, and had no friends. Stumbling across Pinkie’s hobby sort of gave her a connection, or someone to rely on. Sp7 is my first thought, to be honest. Not a 1, 2, 3 and probably not a core 4. We can rule out 5, and 6 is unlikely. Same with 8 or 9. In fact, I’m pretty confident she is a 7. I don’t know her instinct though. Reitanna once said on Twitter Derpy struggles with Gluttony, so…

Probably sp/sx 7w6 (still wary) 741.

Okay, so, I probably have to justify that 1 fix. Derpy is very cautious of making a mistake, so the point where she cries because of it. She’s also under the impression that what she’s doing is morally justified to a degree, “what’s bad for you is good for us,” though that could just be selfishness. Her 1 fix is very light, but I feel like she hates the way she was treated and hates how cruel the world is, despite the fact she is a hypocrite.

MBTI: ESFJ

Fe is not impossible, but idk if it’s her dominant function, really so. I think she’s an XSFJ, probably ESFJ. And the reasoning is that she’s very empathetic, albeit selectively, and she values her friends happiness over her own. She doesn’t like change very much, like when Pinkie got taken away, and that’s how anyone would react, but she does seem to like feeling safe and structured. She had an adventurous side though (Tert Neh) and uses VERY flawed logic to justify her actions using her inf logic.

SLOAN: SLUAN.

She’s just a little borbcy.

Temperament: sanguine-phlegmatic.

Conclusion: ESFJ sp7w6 741 SLUAN sanguine-phlegmatic.

Babs Seed’s Typing:

Enneagram: sx6

Ah yes, the best Muffins character. Well, according to Reitanna and only Reitanna, no one else likes her. Anyway, let’s rule out the obvious. She’s probably not a 1, 2, 3 or 4. 4 fix is possible. 7 and 9 is also less likely. 5, 6 and 8 are the main contenders. We can rule out sp6 and so6. I don’t think she’s an 8, as she doesn’t seem to care about control, but protecting herself. So, now we’re torn between 5 and 6. I’m leaning 5? She could also be a 9. No, I think she’s a 5. She’s very obsessed with mindfulness, taming the mind and… she’s also too confident to be a 5. I know, fallacy. But I don’t really understand fives. You’re like aliens.

I don’t think she’s a 5. Probably a 6w7, actually. Sx/sp6.

Tritype: 684

Probably a 8 and 4 fix. Like, she definitely has 4 traits. She gets jealous of ducks. DUCKS. She insists on fighting her OWN battles, and boy does she fight. She has some so8 traits but uh, killing Fluttershy isn’t exactly “protecting the weak.” She thinks homiending is “strong.”

MBTI:

Ahhh… ugh. Okay, so, Fi inferior isn’t impossible, but Ti > Te makes sense. So, maybe Fe tert? ESTP? Se-Ni is obvious. ESTP is my best guess.

SLOAN: SCOEN.

Temperament: choleric-sanguine.

Conclusion: choleric-sanguine ESTP sx6w7 684 SCOEN.

And that’s it! That’s my analysis of the bakers! I don’t plan on making any changes, and I probably WILL change my mind many times. I could go into other characters, but the point is, the writing in Muffins isn’t the best, so that’s unlikely. Chances are, I’ll leave this post here and yeah.

Edit: When I made this post, my understanding of enneagram wasn’t perfect, and my understanding of socionics was worse. If you want to know my updated thoughts, I might make a post about it, but I’ve already made two posts about this at this point. Would you guys like a part three?

#muffins #reitanna Seishin #Minkie pie #Inkie pie #enneagram #Blinkie pie #lemons random rants

[that-frozen-queen]

Oh thats interesting I always thought their types fit them well, but ofc I ve only done some brief reading about it.

What would you type them as, now I am curious👀?

To be fair, had I not gone through a phase, and I just knew MBTI from like, 16 personalities or something, I would probably think the same! However, I unfortunately went through a phase, and learned about cognitive functions and stuff, so given that, I disagree with their typings.

Also, contrary to popular belief, typing characters is subjective, because we each interpret characters differently. So you are welcome to disagree with my typings, in fact a lot of you probably will.

Now to start:

Elsa

Elsa, I think is a little hard to place, because of her isolation in the first movie, but between both movies, I think she is definitely an ISTJ, especially after taking cognitive functions into account.

Now, people are often hesitant in typing Elsa as ISTJ, because of the stereotypes associated with it- that they’re unemotional, stone cold etc. Which is simply not true- ISTJs are some of the sweetest people I’ve ever met.

But again, as far as cognitive functions go, Elsa fits ISTJ much better than she fits INFJ- even when it comes to the weaker functions.

First, an introductory to intuitive and sensing cognitive functions:

Ni (Introverted Intuition): Zooms in on one idea

Ne (Extroverted Intuition): Focuses on many ideas.

Si (Introverted Sensation): evaluates experience against curated memories.

Se (Extroverted Sensing): Focuses on experience as it unfolds

These are very watered down definitions, but I am tried to avoid giving you a crash course on cognitive functions and how they work because this is already going to be a very long post.

INFJs strongest functions are Ni & Fe, which in my opinion… she is lacking in both, especially Fe (we will get into thinking and feeling functions in a moment).

I do think a case could be made for her being Ni, and I can also see her being an INTJ. However, I think as far as decisions she’s made, she looks to the past or present to make decisions, rather than the abstract or future.

Even at Elsa’s healthiest, the unknown excites her, but she is very hesitant in leaving behind what she knows. I always interpreted Into the Unknown as her dominant Si and inferior Ne conflicting with each other.

She never exactly zooms into one idea. When she is able to use her intuition freely, she is open to many possibilities, and is influenced by the past. Throughout her journey, in both movies, she is constantly equating current events to things that happened to her in the past.

So that is why I personally see her as Si vs Ni.

Now onto feeling and thinking portion:

Fi (Introverted Feeling): Prioritizes individual values / emotions

Fe (Extroverted Feeling): Prioritizes group values / emotions

Ti (Introverted Thinking): Subjective logic.

Te (Extroverted Thinking): Objective logic

Now, a case could also be made for Elsa having Ti somewhere in her stack. However, again, the logic she follows, whether flawed or not, has been presented to her from an outside source. Elsa has no subjective opinion when it comes to her logic, she goes by what she is told.

As for Fe vs Fi, I do think she has no Fe whatsoever, but I do understand where people are coming from when they say she does. Because again, the way anything online, even the definition I gave, a lot of people misinterpret it into meaning:

Fi is selfish and Fe is selfless, and that is not even close to being the case.

Fi users can be selfless if they have selfless personal values and Fe users can be selfish if group values are generally selfish… if that makes sense.

The thing however, is that everything we see of Elsa, every decision she makes can be traced back to personal values. The act of isolating herself from her sister to protect them are selfless acts… but they also come from her valuing her sister and her kingdom. It never comes from the kingdom’s values.

Even in Frozen 2, her own personal desires and values are what drives her motivations. She often doesn’t take into account the fears of others when it comes to making her decisions.

Overall, I just don’t see her as having an Ni-Fe-Ti-Se (INFJ) stack. Si-Te-Fi-Ne just seems to fit her better.

Anna

Now, Anna I have a bit more of a controversial take. A lot of people don’t see her as ENFP, but most people who argue against that type argue for ESFP… but I really don’t see that either. At least not after Frozen 2.

No, her personality type for me, is ESFJ.

She isn’t a mind reader, she doesn’t always know how everyone is feeling, but her emotions are also directly impacted by everyone else’s emotions. Even when she does explore her own feelings, she almost always pushed them aside to understand others emotions.

In Frozen, her anger at Elsa is almost immediately dispersed when Elsa’s situation is revealed, then she focuses on Elsa’s. In Frozen 2, she does have her own fears, but she almost always acknowledges Elsa’s feelings before explaining her own emotions.

Not only that, Anna, just like Elsa, is also very hesitant to change, arguably more so. The only reason she is so eager for things to change in the first movie was because she was lonely.

Not only that, but her logic, especially in the first movie is very subjective, and based on things she has seen or noticed in the past. Her ideas of true love aren’t influenced by an objective source, from what we can see.

So I guess I can understand where the exfp type is coming from, but I personally don’t see it.

#MBTI #queen anna #queen elsa #frozen 2 #frozen 3 #frozen

[w-ht-w]

IxTJ vs IxFJ

Fe users pay attention to the emotions of others, and oftentimes mimic them. (IE: If you’re smiling, the Fe user will probably smile too.) Fe users may take longer to sift through their own emotions ... Fi users will struggle more to understand the emotional reactions of others, unless it is something that they can personally relate to (IE: because they’ve experienced it before). Te/Fi is more unapologetic about their thoughts and opinions, while Fe/Ti is more diplomatic. IXTJs will be more matter-of-fact and straightforward about their opinion and thoughts. They tend to sound certain and absolute in most things they say.  IXFJs may be more apologetic about what they’re saying or hesitant to speak up. ... they want their opinions and thoughts to be validated and well-accepted. ... they’re acutely aware of the emotional response of others and fear emotional backlash. Te/Fi holds itself to a very high standard, while Fe/Ti is more affected by the high expectation of others. Te/Fi likes to think out loud, while Fe/Ti prefers to work things out in their head. Te/Fi internalizes emotion, while Fe/Ti wants to externalize emotion Te/Fi wants to get it done NOW (values efficiency), while Fe/Ti gives a more ‘slow and steady’ vibe. Te/Fi attempts to control it’s physical environment, while Fe/Ti attempts to control it’s emotional environment. (x)

#cognitive functions #istj #intj #isfj #infj