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herakosmos · 4 years
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matchup for @ioveworm!𐐪𐑂
“Hi!! my general info is: im 5'8, kinda chubby but not big in the boob area, (sobs), i have semi long curly black hair with brown front strands! i use she/her, im a virgo sun, sag moon, pisces rising! my personality type is intp-t. im pretty snarky without realizing it, also can be too blunt/straight forward around someone im comfortable with! i have a RBF so some people say i look angry/intimidating but in reality its just my social awkwardness which somehow feeds into that + the fact im awful at speaking with strangers, if i don't have to speak to someone i definitely wont so people need to take the first step in taking </3 im a huge empath and can sympathize with a lot of people but aso can hold grudges/ know how to stand my ground if i REAAALLLLY need to even if i am literally shitting myself LOLLL. i also cry very easily during movies, if an animal dies even if its just in the background i WILL break down into tears. im also super self conscious bc of my weight so 9/10 times i will be trying to make myself as unnoticeable as possible. i can be pretty sarcastic and retort back but if something someone says rubs me the wrong way i can tear up and cry easily haha.... i LOVEE dogs!! music/making playlists, horror movies/game play throughs, pubg/gaming, anime and learning abt animals! i can handle people who are quiet/dont talk much pretty well as long as they reassure me that im not being annoying or bothering them!! but if we can both talk about stuff we like together it makes me super happy and i'll always hear them out!! im pretty bubbly around people i'm close with and giggly but if i'm around other random people im still quiet/neutral... I HOPE THIS ISNT TOO MUCH !!!🥺😞”
hi!! and also dont worry about it i love longer descriptions bc it gives me more ideas on what to put in matchups! <33
this honestly took me longer than it should, but it was because i wanted to give myself a challenge and be more diverse with my options!
i really hope you enjoy this 🥺
i match you up with . . .
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kenjirō shirabu!! 𐐪𐑂
✰ ok this pairing went through a lot of rollercoasters when meeting, BUT HEAR ME OUT 
✰ the sorta tsundere x lovable girlfriend trope in this is 🥺🥺🥺🥺
✰ your first encounter with shirabu would be sorta rocky i’d say. he has this thing where he tries to mask his real feelings with insults because he honestly doesn’t know what the fuck are feelings
✰ i feel like the reason why he fell for for you was mostly because of how everyone perceived you to be this mean and b*tchy person when you’re actually the opposite
✰ one day you just couldn’t handle it anymore and started to release a few tears from each eye
“do you hate me that much?”
✰ honestly this line broke him :((
“you’re not annoying to me kay? it’s just…never mind”
✰ the more you two actually spent time together though, you guys do warm up to each other bit by bit
✰ him asking you out would probably be the most awkward thing ever JBAKHBXKHXB
✰ poor boy is new to all of this mushy feeling stuff
“weprobablymaybelikeeachotheridontknowbutwouldyougooutwithme..?” 
✰ you would probably be like: ???
✰ THIS GUY IS TURNING SO RED NOW SEND HELP FOR HIM
✰ i don’t know why but he’ll be the type to just whip out his phone and try to type out what he was trying to say while you’re in front of him
✰ shirabu: go out with me?
✰ the two of you end up becoming a blushing mess together (AWHH)
✰ lemme tell you, once this guy becomes your man, all hard work pays off
✰ this man would take care of you. even though he rarely shows it verbally, he definitely does through acts of services
✰ shirabu understands your self coniousness since he tends to get like that too. to be honest he doesn’t really care about the way you look. he loves you just the way you are and it honestly makes him want to punch whoever made you feel the need to be super conscious about yourself
✰ the amount of cute puppy pictures he spams your phone just to cheer you up (AWHHH)
✰ he knows probably almost everything about you and remembers even the smallest details
✰ like for example he knows that you dye the front strands of your hair brown, so on his own he’ll buy boxes of hair dye for you and leave them in the cabinet 
“don’t use too much of it or else i have to get more”
✰ he’s so blunt omg and sometimes it may rub you the wrong way, but shirabu really does try to tone it down for you because he hates it when you cry. especially when he is the cause of it :((
✰ he’ll pull you close and kisses away your tears🥺
✰ dates can include going to dog cafés, the zoo or movie dates at home :D
✰ the first ever time you guys had a movie date this boy really thought of a plan to give you the scare of a lifetime by watching a super scary horror movie. little did he know you LOVED horror, so when he put it on you were unfazed and this dude was so shocked at you
✰ in shirabu’s mind: how the fuck is she not scared right now
✰ his reactions were so priceless and honestly he was kinda pissed you weren’t cuddling up against him right now for protection😭😭
“how are you not afraid of this”
“i don’t know either, i mean this is sooooo scary”
✰ shirabu turned to you immediately with a shocked expression. he learned two things that day, you loved horror movies and can get pretty sarcastic lmao
“thanks a lot for ruining my plans of you jumping into my arms for protectio-”
“what?”
“what?”
✰ shirabu was actually the one who suggested going to a dog café and the zoo afterwards. it really shocked you since he wasn’t really big with animals
✰ in actuality, the setter knew how much you loved animals and wanted to take you on an animal themed date for the day (even though he’ll never say it)
✰ the way your eyes sparkled and become so invested in the creatures honestly makes him so soft. no one makes him so soft like you, you’re one lucky girl🙈
“baby can we please get a dog?”
“no”
“pleeasseee”
“no”
“you can be the big spoon from now on”
“yes”
✰ KJDBXJBSJSJBNJN
✰ NO ONE KNOWS SHIRABU LETS YOU BE THE BIG SPOON AND IF ANYONE DID ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE
✰ light giggles started to leave your mouth due to the fact he gave in so quickly because of that one offer
✰ shirabu soon started to mess up your hair and gave you a small smile🥺🥺
“i’m only agreeing, so you won’t have to have a permenant pout on your face whenever we pass a dog on the street baka”
✰ head pokes are a BIG thing for showing his “affection” for you
✰ making fun of him? head poke
✰ getting frustrated because of an idiotic character in an anime? head poke
✰ whenever shirabu plays a video game with you he’ll show NO mercy and try to beat you and when he does his cocky smirks start to show. he also tries to hold back his tongue to try and not tease you
✰ but when you win, omg he gets so salty. his face most definetely would try not to show it, but inside his head he’s raging SO MUCH
“tch you only won because i let you”
“sure babe, sureeee”
✰ becomes so salty he’ll probably start a pillow fight with you LMAO
✰ this guy definitely loves late night calls with you. he enjoys your soothing voice and would wanna hear you talk 24/7. he gets fairly busy juggling studies and volleyball, so your voice really makes him feel less stressed out🥺 sometimes the call would run on until the next day because you two soon fall asleep on call together haha
✰ i feel like shirabu wouldn’t have a lot of pet names for you, but sometimes he’ll call you “baka” “babe” and “darling”
✰ you being a virgo and him being a taurus you guys are a great match!
✰ both can be quite sincere and devoted to one another. virgos like taurus’s strength and commitment while taurus loves virgo’s quick mind!
✰ shirabu is an ENTJ while you are an INTP which means another great match :)))
✰ ENTJs love INTP’s way of thinking, knowledge and being patient. INTPs love ENTJ’s enthusiasm for knowledge, straightforwardness and being able to take criticism well <33
bonus!
heres an anime relationship type gif that i just think you two would do 🥺
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golden-redhead · 4 years
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Do you think Kokichi is bi? Because of the "I like you" thing with Himiko. I can't figure out if it was genuine at all or not - it's a weird thing to write into Kaito's script just to get a reaction from her, but it's also weird given how heavy his crush on Shuichi seemed to be. Also I've recently come to terms with the fact that I'm bi and that my weird unexplainable feelings toward female classmates weren't actually unexplainable, hi.
Uhh, I have a feeling that many people will hate me for my response, it’s so full of controversial and unpopular opinions, but here we go, I guess.
Starting with the Himiko thing, I think it was mostly there to get a reaction out of her, it’s a very Kokichi thing to do in my opinion, maybe it seemed a bit out of nowhere, but if I really think about it I kinda have to admit that many of his comments sounded like that. Personally, I think people pay too much attention to that line? And I feel like it says much more about Himiko than about Kokichi. And how she actually has this... very heteronormative view of the world and it was very flattering for her to hear something like that from a boy, as opposed to her being clearly uncomfortable when Tenko was paying so much attention to her. I think that’s something more worth discussing than a passing comment that seems more like weird fanservice than anything else. Because that can be actually analyzed, this fact that she was pleased to hear that.
Secondly, I don’t really have, like... fixed... orientation headcanons. I just... don’t. And I never understood why fandom is so obsessed with them tbh. I’ve always seen the fact that my interpretations of characters as fluid as a good thing and I just... don’t really think about things like that, like... actively? For me it’s always been, what best fits the AU I’m writing or just a gut feeling that doesn’t really need to be overly analyzed, I guess. Especially since, you know, sexuality in general is fluid. As for bi Kokichi... For me bi Kokichi only works in AUs where he could have sex with women but I believe that romantically he’s exclusively attracted to men. unless we’re talking abt polyam relationships but that’s another topic entirely
Also, it’s gonna be super controversial, but... I don’t think... that Kokichi..... actually had a crush on Shuichi. Or at least it’s not that important whether he had or not because the game was more important.
There. I said it.
Like, I genuinely think that fandom took some small hints of it that could easily be interpreted as him being simply suspicious and kinda impressed by Shuichi’s talent and EXTREMELY blew it out of proportion.
And it doesn’t have anything to do with how I feel about this ship, I just genuinely don’t think it was there as much as fandom insists it was. As oppossed to komahina where it was all over the place and they had an actual bond and interacted a bunch of times.
I think that people in V3 fandom really tend to overlook how freaking suspicious Shuichi must have been in Kokichi’s eyes. People forget that we can sympathize with Shuichi’s actions and see where he’s coming from because we have the first person narration, but in REALITY, his actions must have been super suspicious if you analyze them from the perspective of other characters. We know he’s good. Kokichi can’t know that. Like, look... this guy solved practically every trial, no one else even really tried, he had full control during the motives reveals, it’s fucking dangerous to have someone this perceptive who could easily manipulate the facts and NO ONE would even realize. And then he goes and becomes friends with a fucking assassin and an optimistic idiot that had some pretty dangerous ideas and ability to motivate and convince people to do what he tells them to do.
I’m not denying that Kokichi might have had a crush on Saihara, but more than anything, I think he was suspicious of him and afraid of what could happen if he happened to be the mastermind or was somehow manipulated by Monokuma. I think that in a way he tried to focus on that more than on his feelings because letting them dictate his actions would get him and everyone else killed. And, story-wise, that is much more important but not really discussed in the fandom because of shipping wars and people forgetting that we know why Shuichi acts the way he does, but other characters can’t say the same thing.
But yeah, anyways, I’m happy to hear that you realized you might be bi : D It can be a bit scary and weird, especially this realization that ‘oh my god, all these years I’ve been attracted to girls and now suddenly EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE’, haha. Honestly, I’ve had 2-4 years to get used to the idea that I’m bi but it still blows my mind a little? I know how you feel! I’ve been there. And for me knowing that I’m bi, knowing that such a big part of me finally makes sense... Like some weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I hope it’s the same for you :3
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shawnpetermuffins · 5 years
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She's gone. (Part 2 of Were You Going to Tell Me?)
A/n: here is part 2, it went in a slightly different direction than I originally intended, but I think I like it.
Summary: Shawn isn't coping well with y/n being gone. (Told in both POVs)
Word count: still a lot
Warning: angst with a fluff ending oops
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She left and I'm well beyond sad. I feel empty. If there's a way to feel something worse than that, then that's what I feel. It's like my heart has been ripped from my chest and it's infinitely harder to breathe through that aching pain.
I stayed in bed, crying like a baby, clutching her pillow like it was her. Morning came and my throat was raw from screaming into the sheets while hiccupped sobs wracked my body. I didn't bother to answer my phone that hasn't stopped ringing since seven. I couldn't even get out of bed to brush my teeth. Amy little thing that I did felt impossible. How could I go on living without her? She made everything in my life worth living. It was fun and organized with her in it, and I took her for granted. I made her move across the continent just to be with me and I couldn't even spare her a passing glance, a quick kiss before leaving for the studio.
I'm the worst boyfriend ever. How she put up with me for seven years is beyond me. I would have dropped my ass the first time I forgot our anniversary. And her birthday! God I forgot her birthday! But she didn't break up with me and I did it again. I'm the worst. The absolute worst.
“Shawn, are you in here?”
I now regret giving Andrew a spare key to my place. I stifled my sobs into her pillow, it smelled like her, this was torture. He barged into our room - fuck, I didn't even know if it was still our room.
“Shawn, what the hell? You were supposed to be in the studio two hours - wait, what's going on? Why aren't you dressed?"
“She's gone, Andrew. I lost her.” I choked on the words and buried my head further into her side of the bed.
“What are you talking about?”
“Y/n left.” The cried that escaped my throat were embarrassing and loud.
“Like she left? Why on earth would she leave?”
“Because I suck. I'm a horrible boyfriend. I was more focused on the album than I was spending time with her.” I sniffled, “I royally fucked up; I don't even know what to do. I can't go on without her.”
Andrew sighed, “Shawn, I know it feels like the end of the world right now, but-”
“I'm not going in, Andrew! I might have just lost my girlfriend of seven years, the love of my life, the reason for my existence! Fuck the studio! I don't have my girl here, so I can't make music!”
“You're being unreasonable.” He started typing on his phone. “Get up. Get dressed. You have to be there. People are waiting.”
“Well then tell them to stop waiting because I'm not going.”
“How long are you gonna do this?” He punched the bridge of his nose.
“Until she's back in my arms.”
Ten minutes later, after Andrew had finally left and stopped yelling at me, my door opened again. I really need to stop giving my friends a key. “Shawny boy, are you here?”
I didn't answer. They'd find me eventually.
“What are doing here?” Brian came into the room and sat on the edge of the bed.
“She left.”
“Not for good. She couldn't.”
“She told me she wasn't happy anymore. That I wasn't making her happy.”
“You've been busy,” he sympathized, “she'll cool down.”
“She's in y/h/t, Brian. It's not like she's just roaming around the city and she'll come back when she gets bored.”
“Shawn, y/n loves you. The entire world knows that. Just like they know you love her. She'll come back.”
“And what if she doesn't?”
He didn't answer because he knew there was a chance she wouldn't.
“I've fucked everything up. I don't know what to do.”
“What's your heart telling you to do?”
I sighed and sat up, pulling my knees to my chest. “My heart is telling me that I should have proposed to her a long time ago.”
“What?”
I got out of bed and walked on foreign legs to our closet. I had hidden a velvet box in a pair of my shoes on the top shelf. Where I knew she couldn't reach. I tossed it at him and he fumbled to catch it. “I bought it for her right after she moved in. But I was scared that she'd think it was too much at one time if I asked her then. But then everything else started piling up and I couldn't find an opening, and then I guess I just forgot.”
“Does she know you were planning on proposing? Because if she did, I don't think she would have run away.”
“Well we've talked about it. But I guess within the past year, we haven't done much talking. It seems like we're always in a screaming match.”
“You need to do this,” he stood from the bed, closing the box in his hand before tossing it back to me. “Get on a plane and go find her.”
“She doesn't want to see me.”
“Shawn, I'm scared that if you don't go to her now she really isn't coming back. Because you're right, you've fucked up. A lot. I don't know how many times I've comforted her after you guys fight.”
“Wait, what?”
Brian sighed, “She's come to me a few times.”
“Why didn't I know that?”
“Because you haven't been paying attention. But you're paying attention now, so go. Get your girl back before it's too late.”
“I will, but we need to talk about the fact that you knew how she was feeling and you didn't tell me.”
“They weren't my feelings to share! She trusts me, and I can't break that trust. She's a hard person to get in good with and I don't want go be on her bad side. Because from what you look like right now, it's not looking too hot.”
I scoffed and started packing some clothes. I didn't know how long I would be gone, so I just threw some shit in a bag and booked my ticket. “She's my girlfriend, He is .  And you're my best friend, don't you think you have some sort of obligation to tell me when my girlfriend things we don't work?"
“Don't you think you have an obligation as her boyfriend to make sure she's happy? Look, I love you to death, man, but you've been pulling away from her for so long I'm surprised she's stayed as long as she has.”
“You're a dick.”
“No, Shawn.” he shook his head. “I'm just telling you the truth. And I'm not the only one who's noticed. The guys see it too. The band. Everyone except you.”
“And no one's told me a goddamn thing,” I crossed my arms over my chest.
“Because we knew you'd react this way. But let me tell you this: that girl has loved you despite all the hell you've put her through. She moved here away from all she's ever known for you, and you're rarely ever here. She put her dreams on hold so you could continue following yours. Do you think she likes what she does? No, but she does it because that's what keeps her close to you. You've taken her for granted and she doesn't deserve that.”
I sighed, “You're right,” I said defeated. “She doesn't, and I know that after everything I've done I don't deserve her. I know. But I love her more than anything.”
“Don't tell me that. Tell her.”
My palms were sweaty as I stood in front of her childhood home. Her dad's truck was in the driveway, y/n's wasn't. I knocked on the door and waited. Her dad stood before me. “Can we talk?” I asked, my hands in my pockets.
He nodded and motioned for me to come inside. “Sit down,” he pointed to the couch nearest to the kitchen. He sat opposite of me.
I took in a deep breath and rubbed my palms on my jeans. “Has she said anything to you?”
He shook his head, “Not to me. Her sister, probably.”
I cleared my throat, “Well, I'm going to apologize anyway. Things haven't been going great for us for quite some time now and that's completely on me. I've taken her for granted and that was never my intention. I love her and I never meant to hurt her, you need to know that.”
“I do, Shawn.”
“I'm in love with her, sir. I have been for seven years, and I will be for the rest of my life. I hadn't known pure heartache until she left the other day. I couldn't even get out of bed, and none of this is your problem, but I just want you to know that I love her and I never want to see her hurt like this again. I want to spend the rest of my life making it up to her. So… May I have your blessing to ask her go marry me?”
He was silent for a while and then he chuckled. “I'll give you my blessing, Shawn. You've taken good care of her, whether you think you have or not. But ultimately the decision is hers.”
“Yes, sir.” I nodded. “Thank you,” I stood and shook his hand; he brought me into a hug.
“You take good care of her, okay?”
“Of course.”
The waiting was torture. I stood in the middle of her old bedroom with a bouquet of flowers in one hand and the ring in the other, behind my back. She stopped short when she saw me. “Glad you're back,” I said.
“Shawn. What are you - What are you doing here?”
“I came to apologize. And to completely beg you to come home with me.”
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I thought I was imagining things when I saw that beautiful head of hair. But then he spoke in the voice of my dreams and I startled slightly. I rubbed my forehead, “I said I needed time.”
“I know, pumpkin, I know. But if you could just hear me out.” He set the flowers he was holding on my old desk. “No yelling, I promise.” He reached his hands out for me. “Do you trust me?”
I sighed. Of course I did. So I placed my hands in his and he led me outside. We stood in the middle of the circle drive. “Seven years ago,” he started, “I was standing right here when you came running up to me and you wrapped your entire body around me. You were wearing mg pink Lost in Japan hoodie, with yoga shorts, no makeup, and your hair in a messy bun. I swore to myself that day that I had never seen anyone or anything look as beautiful as you did in that moment.”
“Shawn,” I tried to pull my hands back, but he brought them to his chest, near his heart.
“I'm not done,” he sighed. “I’d been in love with you for months already, by that point, but that day did it for me. That's when I really knew that you were the girl I was gonna spend my life with. I've never not believed that.” He let go of my hands and reached into his back pocket, then he took my left hand again.
Oh no.
“Y/n, my beautiful cherry blossom, my pumpkin, my love. I am so tremendously sorry. I know I've fucked up immensely these last few years, and if I could go back in time, I would. I would love you harder. I would kiss you more. I would take you on more dates because I love you. I have since the day I met you and I will until the day I die.” He got down on one knee and the tears blurred my vision.
“Shawn, no. No, no, no. Get up, bubba.” my hand flew to my mouth, this isn't how I thought it would go down. After a big fight.
“I can't take back what I've done, but I can try to make it up to you every day for the rest of my life if you'll let me.” He took in a deep breath, “Y/f/n, will you let me spend the rest of my life loving you unconditionally? Will you marry me?” He popped open the velvet box and even through my clouded eyes, I could see how big the ring was. But that's not what this was about. This was about the man in front of me, who I've spent nearly a decade of my life with. He was here in my hometown, begging for forgiveness, asking me to marry him. And it killed me that even though he'd been the worst the last two years, I still wanted him.
“Y/n,” he said, his voice shaking. “Will you marry me?” He asked again.
I took in a deep breath. He needed an answer. I closed my eyes tight and let the last few years fall before I said, “Yes.”
“Yes?”
I nodded and laughed through the tears that were now resurfacing. “You said yes. Oh my god!” He picked me up and twirled me around again and again. Once back on the ground, he put the ring on my finger with his shaking hand. “I was scared you'd say no because I messed up too much.”
I pulled him down and rested my forehead against his. “You have the rest of your life to make it up to me.” I played with the tufts of hair on the back of his neck. “I love you.”
He smiled and then he kissed me. And this kiss, it was enough to keep me grounded forever. I knew in this second that I would never regret my choice to marry him.
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That's it, guys! I hope you enjoyed it!
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janiedean · 7 years
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What do you think of the whole Dylan Roof being sentenced to death situation and Incblackbird getting hate for being against it?
haha I got two questions in one ;)
okay so premise: I have zero sympathy for the guy. I have in general zero sympathy for mass murderers even more so if they’re beyond rehabilitation (not that mass murderers are in general, so). as far as I’m concerned they should put him in jail, throw away the key and let him enjoy a very long life behind bars since the idiot is younger than I am and he definitely would have a long life expectance - too bad.
that said: I am also in any way, shape or form against death penalty. I don’t think it’s anything that should go on in a civil country, I entirely disagree on its value as *anything* since risking it doesn’t prevent anyone from committing crimes and I think that the chance someone innocent might die for it isn’t worth the chance of killing actual culprits. also I think the old testament is old fucking news, enlightenment has been a thing for ages and killing someone in retribution for whatever it is they did just feeds into a mindset that has to die. we can’t think that if someone kills someone then you kill them in return and you evened the slate - like it’s the same concept as ‘you stole some bread so I cut your hand’. like. it’s the 21st century. death penalty is sickening and unacceptable under any fucking pov and before someone asks me no, if someone I loved was murdered I would not want the murdered killed, I’d want them punished properly. as in: life sentences are a thing. (and before you tell me that it costs to keep someone in prison for all their life, don’t worry it also costs to kill them. I remember some newspaper article a while ago saying that in california they were considering doing away with the death penalty because it cost too much rather than for ethical reasons. haha.)
so: the dude should have been thrown in jail for life as far as I’m concerned but not put to death and not because he doesn’t **deserve** it but because killing people out of retribution doesn’t make you any better than them, because it’s just flat-out morally wrong and there’s a hell of a lot of different ways you can go about punishing someone. never mind that the US system works so well that… okay, story: once I signed an amnesty petition for a guy who spent twenty years in trials for a death sentence when evidence against him was either inconclusive or tampered with and they basically asked for signatures to send the state governor to give him a last appeal. the state governor also did not sign it and the guy died. since then I get links to similar petitions in my inbox and like every month or so I get something of the kind and it’s 90% black people convicted during the eighties in either questionable circumstances or without 100% foulproof evidence who get killed anyway. even if it’s not even sure they did it. like I’d be against it even if I was guaranteed that no innocents get axed but innocents have been axed in that way since ages (SACCO AND VANZETTI *COUGH*) and given that then there’s ppl like that former texas governor asshole who actually build their campaign on how many people were put to death under their administration and therefore don’t lift fingers to save the ones who might actually be innocent excuse me but lol I’m not ever agreeing with anything that comes out of it. and before anyone tells me that I’m empathizing with him rather than the families’ victims: no. I don’t give two fucks about this guy and I don’t think he deserves to walk out free or to not be punished, but you don’t kill people legally period. to me it’s just abhorrent as a general concept.
also: people on the tag going like OMG I’M SO HAPPY THAT HIS BRAIN IS GONNA FIZZLE are fucking sociopaths. like excuse me but if the concept of seeing someone die on an electric chair makes you burst in joy and cheer, I don’t wanna be near you ever. like it’s some of the most disgusting shit you could come up with - like idek if these people know what actually it implies that one person’s brain *fizzles* (I’ve seen enough movies/documentaries to have an idea) but it’s nothing exciting. and there’s nothing to be happy about because anyone who gets killed like that is a failure of a) the society that produced them/their family/their background if they’re guilty and b) a complete travesty if they’re not. like the bare idea that you’d rejoice at the prospect of seeing someone die in that way (at least if they shoot at you it’s over in a moment) is just… completely abhorrent to me? (also I personally have Issues TM with executions, like I can’t watch executions in general without feeling sick or crying my eyes out even if I don’t give a damn about who’s getting executed or whether they did anything wrong to end up there or not, so. again: it’s not even empathy. once I watched a movie where a fairly disgusting person who kidnapped/abused children was condemned to death and I hated the guy’s guts and I still cried when he got hanged because I can’t fucking literally watch people die slowly/executed. so.) wow idk my first thought would be ‘how do we avoid anything like that happening again’, not ‘HAHAHAHA THEY’RE GETTING THEIR DUE I HOPE THEY SUFFER’. like. wow. outstanding human being there. stay away from me thanks.
re incblackbird getting hate: I’m entirely not surprised that on a supposedly **progressive positions** website like tumblr aspires to be people are actually in favor of the death penalty even if like any left wing party deserving of that name is technically against it but like if people don’t get that not wanting death penalty in general doesn’t automatically mean approving of someone’s crimes then idek what to say but jfc people need to go to the nearest amnesty international building and do some volunteer work or something and stop being fucking sociopaths because seriously one thing is not being sad that the guy’s gonna die which I can more or less understand in theory but actually rejoicing in the fact doesn’t make you really much of a better human being than someone who, uh, most probably rejoiced in actually killing people. /two cents
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[Kingsmen 3: The Golden Service] Harry Hart turns "villain"
TL;DR: The Lepidopterist is the *perfect* name for a "colorfull" megalomaniac who's trying to save the world via villainy.
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I've allways had a nagging feeling that Colin Firth's Harry Hart is destined to become a villain. Like Valentine and Poppy, our Hart will break.
Why do I think this? Let's start simple:
1) "I always felt that the old Bond films were only as good as the villain. As a child, I rather fancied a future as a colorful megalomaniac."
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Now you could take it as face value veiled metaphor in their cat and mouse game. A game recognize game moment. Though when you look at it from a character angle, it is rather apparent that Galahad is not lying here. Look at the giddy nature in which they both talk about the subject. Almost lost in a moment of childhood nostalgia. Neither man is lying. So if Valentine tried to save the world like his younger self wanted, then it stands to reason that Harry has that childhood dream himself.
Harry even has a flair for the dramatic already. "Manners maketh man" is all about him causing a dignified scene to teach a lesson to all watching. In the Freebird church scene, you can see it BEFORE he starts fighting because of Valentine's machine.
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Feels like a simple "I'm going to the bathroom" or "I'm hot and need to breath outside for moment" would have sufficed and gotten him out of there without hassle from the crazy Baptist and he KNEW that but didn't care. Arthur implies this subversiveness in their conversations about choosing candidates. Then there's the *way* in which he kills everyone there. Not just defense or trying to kill quickly but lots of slow, painful, and fucked up deaths. The killing is Valentine but the style is ALL Harry. It's part of the reasons he's disgusted. Not the enjoyment, but the ease with which he turned so gleefully. That slow motion fade in smile in the middle is proof of this. Harry *wanted* to punish those people the same way Valentine did. That's proven by what he says at the start. (Don't blame him either, just character commenting. Fuck those people.) Part of me thinks the Freebird is playing in *HIS* head. He's a bird freed by blood.
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2) The Lepidopterist
I know the clip is from Venture Bros but it's meant to show how two "good guys" became bad. Kinda the perfect coincidence. But I digress... it was a shameless plug to #SavetheVentureBros. 😎😙😍
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The hobbyist collecting of insects, fauna/flora, and what-have-yous has looooong been a trope of "colorful megalomaniacs".
Then there's the added bonus that The Lepidopterist sounds like the *perfect* name for a Bond villain.
Butterflies even symbolize death and rebirth and the violence inherent in transforming something for the better.
Is Harry's butterflies a set-up foreshadowing to his coming transformation from "hero" to "villain"?
"I doubt whether I'd work for anyone who drowns their employees. I want to go home. I want my butterfly collection. I want to see Mother."
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3) As we know, all the best villains are ones we sympathize with and understand WHY they do what they do. Valentine was trying to solve over-population and save what he could of the species so it wouldn't happen again. Poppy wanted drugs to be legal, partially for vanity reasons but mainly for anger at global government hypocrisies (the same governments which had their heads blown up for trying to kill humanity for their own gain). Wouldn't it fit perfectly for Harry Hart to have seen the horrors inflicted by the world governments and the corruption of not only Statesmen, but his beloved Kingsmen themselves, and say "No more." What's he gonna feel when he finds out Arthur sold the Kingsmen's soul and got him killed? How long has the "shoot the dog" exercise been in practice? Why is trying to drown someone thought of as a reasonable way to help them? Does the rot go to the core? All things any reasonable person would ask after being shot for an organization that was just blown up by a drug dealer.
"When I was shot, can you guess what the last thing was that flashed through my mind? It was absolutely nothing. I had no ties. No bittersweet memories. I was leaving nothing behind. Never experienced companionship, never been in love. And in that moment, all I felt was loneliness and regret."
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Who's to say what he would do or the methods he would take, but villains are merely people casting shadows in the way of the light.
4) I put this last because it's more pun than the others and because I only realized it while writing their names out loud. Valentine. Poppy. Hart. A valentine is love, poppies symbolize death, and a heart combines both (a Hart is also the name for an adult male deer over the age of five but I'm not British enough to understand what the fuck that has to do with anything.) There's also Richmond Valentine/Rich Man Love (Rich dude saving the world). Poppy Adams/ Poppy of the Earth (Death of the World). And finally Harry Hart/Harry Heart. An attacking heart. Yeah, that's the old definition of "harry". To harass. (Or Power Ruler of the Five Year Old Male Deer. This isn't an exact science 🙃 ). Honestly, as I write these out, the puns become the hardest piece of proof for me. Brits love a good wordplay foreshadowing.
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"... this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."
AND what else do they have in common? They're all things associated with the color red. And what's red?
BLOOD.
Sorry, couldn't resist the touch of drama. 🤣
P.S. I know it's not really related but I also subscribe to the Poppy is a former Statesmen theory as well.
Making this an even more thematic connection. Good guys gone villain because of shitty situations.
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5) HE'S WEARING AN EYEPATCH!!! How autistic am I that I missed that in my explanation. Eyepatches just seem that normal to me but they're like the ultimate villain accessory. Unless you're a pirate.
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6) /u/Bespoke3 pointed out how the one thing keeping this from happening is Eggsy and Harry's relationship, and I contended that it was true. While making an interesting movie, you need a sufficient reason for those two to be on opposite ends of each other. And in rambling through comments, I found it. This is why you write shit outloud:
It's Princess Tilde!
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The first movie showed that world leaders would gladly sell their souls to save themselves, Princess Tilde being one of the few exceptions. The second showed that even after those figureheads exploded (see what I did there 🤣), there was still terrible people left in charge making even worse decisions.
What if Harry's plan is to attack all of the "leaders" of the world as a way to show people they have the power to govern themselves. This would put Princess Tilde, and moreso her family, directly in the line of fire and force Eggsy's hand to intervene and choose.
Save the girl or save the world.
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7) As /u/baddestmofointhe209 pointed out, Harry *was* shot in the head. That kind of thing does tend to mess with people after the fact. Maybe turning villain isn't such a stretch. Not evil, but morally grey.
7) As /u/baddestmofointhe209 pointed out, Harry *was* shot in the head. That kind of thing does tend to mess with people after the fact. Maybe turning villain isn't such a stretch. Not evil, but morally grey.
8) My wife was telling me about how Colin Firth has allways wanted to play the villain too.
"Whenever you take on playing a villain, he has to cease to be a villain to you. If you judge this man by his time, he's doing very little wrong."
“I’d never rule out a part in Doctor Who or Torchwood – especially Doctor Who, I’d also love to play a villain like Moriarty in Sherlock Holmes."
9) Thanks to some pushback from /u/The-Reddit-Giraffe, I decided to Google Kingsmen 3 rumors and stumbled on this little nugget about it, and specifically the Harry/Eggsy relationship:
"I'm really not allowed to say anything, but there is a script. It's a really neat idea."
Outside of it telling the finale of Eggsy and Harry Hart's story, we don't know all that much about the plot for the third movie.
"People will either freak out in a good way, or freak out in a bad way, but they will freak out," Vaughn teased. "We're literally finishing the script off as I speak – but they go on a journey that, if anyone sees it coming, then I'll give up."
To which I would like to thank YOU. This is why I love being shown how I could be wrong. I can't help but feel like this is EXACTLY what they're talking about. You don't have a script finished that fast if you didn't already know where you were going with the first two.
It HAS to end like this. Now I can't see any other way. Maybe The Rock is the Big Bad they have to team up to stop at the end but I will say with 99% confidence that Harry Hart will turn rogue for the first 2/3 of the movie.
10) This wouldn't be the first time I was right about something like this either.
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