#gith the liberator

[gothyanki]

Thinking Vere Hard once again about Orpheus' name and how it doesn't quite fit with established gith naming patterns (inasmuch as those have been established). The fact that he's the only one with an actual real-world mythological name has always made me feel like it's supposed to be translated/at least somewhat altered from the original, which then leads me to wonder - do the gith have an equivalent mythological figure?? Does his name come from an older form of the language? What does it meaaaannnn (and do gith[yanki/zerai] place any significance on name meanings at all?)

(I know the out-of-universe answer is "devs named him based on Vibes", but shhh. This is Watsonian Interpretations Happy Hour.)

#not me picturing gith and vlaakith's final journey together as an extremely warped interpretation of orpheus/eurydice #did vlaakith ever look back? #prince orpheus #gith the liberator #vlaakith i #githyanki #bg3

[silver-horse]

Assuming basically everything about the main story is more or less the same (there'd be obvious changes due to perspective but just go with this) if Larian had made BG3 with one origin character as the only main playable character, which one do you think would be the most interesting to play as and witness the story through?

Just for more clarification, this is for role playing purposes only, not really caring about class and gameplay mechanics that would also change depending on the character.

Oh Lae'zel for sure. If there is someone who is already kinda like the main character, it's Lae'zel. She is the most connected to the main plot, it's the most personal for her. So I just feel like it would make the most sense. She is also main character material because she is an outsider and stories love to do that because they can explain shit to the viewer/reader/player under the pretence that the main character is also learning about everything in the fantasy world.

(A bit unrelated to the question, but I want to say I already started all of the origins and they did a really good job making the player see things from their perspective, the game really puts us in that character's shoes whichever we pick, so I can totally recommend all of them.)

#also we could ride a dragon in the end #maybe liberating the gith could be part of the story if she is the only main character. that would be the ending. it would be cool and gran #lae'zel #laezel #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #deadletterpoets #messages #my post #(also to everyone who doesn't like any of the 6 main companions I recommend playing the one you don't like as an origin actually) #(I think it might even make people feel for them more if they play AS them) #my posts #bg3 mine

[jewishevelinebaker]

My girl is mad at me. I hope i die

#aud.txt #i signed a deal with raphael. i want to liberate the gith

[rebelontherocks]

one thing that makes zero sense to me is how githyanki ride dragons and no one comments on it... like that's a whole person. Are the githyanki dragons somehow different, am I missing something, is it just more characterization to drive home how they are ethnic supremacist slavers that everyone seems to miss, in favor of 'oh poor orpheus?'

#i'm referring specifically to the githyanki the githzerai have realized all that shit is absolute wack #and maybe they shouldn't fight to the death for the divine right of kings and to enslave all other people's under a gith empire #anyway this is why i'm so pro-ilithid #they're doing all that under the elderbrains compulsion #the githyanki just think empire is cool #local marxist is annoying about video games 👍 #like so much of lae'zel's character arc is about understanding that vlaakith as this god-queen figure is awful #and then people just replace her with orpheus #amazing liberal logic #to be fair the game is painfully liberal #but that doesn't mean people can't see beyond what's there and reach more materially grounded conclusions #quickly: do you think replacing vlaakith the god-queen with a god-king but who's the legitimate heir instead is going to change anything #about the warmongering imperialist githyanki society??

[traceofexistence]

I read somewhere in the tags that there is data mined dialogue between Voss and Orpheus saying "I love you" or "my love" or something romantic. and I can't stop thinking how Voss was probably the Lancelot type to prince Orpheus

hear me out

what if, Voss saw everything that Vlaakith did, and all that mattered to him was to some how save his prince, his love, and then conspire against Vlaakith later. and that's why he agreed for Orpheus to be trapped in the prism, tell all gith that he was a traitor and he killed him, so the deal was "don't kill him and I'll keep your secret" to Vlaakith.

but then Vlaakith became a lich and started eating other kith'raks, and thousands of years passed, and Voss lost hope that he could ever free his love, and liberate his people.

when the prism was stolen, hope returned in his heart, and when Lae'zel showed vigor, and tried to defy her queen, he knew he had encountered the right type of ally.

Voss/Orpheus is the mlm story I didn't know I needed.

Voss to Orpheus:

it's been 84.000 years

#kith'rak voss #orpheus bg3 #githyanki #baldur's gate 3 #bg3

[wearethewitches]

Gith/Tir'su language essay

So. So, I had need of the Gith language for fic purposes and realised that the dictionary is woefully lacking, so here is my extremely amateur analysis of what phrases we do have (and how the current translations lack depth, in their meta explanations).

Example, to underpin one of my main theories that words turn positive and negative using 'k :

shka'keth "asshole".

shkath zai "for honor." used as a greeting

First of all, I'll start with the word for honour. Take away zai and you're left with "shkath". Now, going by Githyanki culture, honour is one of those big deal things and behaviours are rigid, etc., so using the "shka" start to the word for both honour & asshole? Doesn't fit.

You know what would fit, to replace a normal insult in our culture that means someone with unreputable behaviour, etc., etc.,? Coward. Or honourless. (Because we do actually have a word for coward, which is not surprising. But I'm going for cultural vibes here, so honourless works better.)

So, my theory: "shkath" is the root word for honour. "shka'keth" is the negative - honourless. A coward, in other words. Like in Mando'a, I'd imagine there's a boatload of worser insults than being called the petty equivalent asshole that gets the Gith going in terms of offence, from both insulter and insultee.

To support my supposition, and second theory that the phraseology is backwards:

Vlaakith'ka sivim hrath krash'ht. "Only in Vlaakith may we find light."

Ignore the latter half right now. We're focusing on "Vlaakith'ka" and the very reasonable opinion that the translation is a negative. Why? Because "only in Vlaakith" in our language is a conditional phrase. To compare, there's this:

Vlaakith gha'g shkath zai. "For the honor of Vlaakith!"

Not a conditional, also uses our honour words. My additional theory of everything being backwards is mostly from this, because "for honour" is at the end of the sentence.

Breaking the sentence down:

Vlaakith - Vlaakith (noun)

gha'g - the (article determiner + ?)

shkath zai - for honour (again, backwards, noun + preposition)

((I have no idea what gha'g is, and my best guess is that it's "the" plus some kind of determiner. Maybe I'll figure it out later in this post, I don't know. At the moment, I'm just making basic connections and suppositions.)

Going back to Vlaakith'ka, "Only in Vlaakith":

Vlaakith'ka - Vlaakith (noun) + 'ka

My theory of 'k being a negative removes the conditional phrasing. "Only in" is inherently negative in Githyanki, and to make it a positive, removing the "only", I believe you'd only need to take away 'k.

So: Vlaakith'ka (only in Vlaakith) becomes Vlaakith'a (in Vlaakith).

Two examples of a working negative. I can't currently find any reason why there's a difference in vowel usage - Vlaakith'ka vs. shka'keth - but I

My last theory is that "is" is the root word for "being"/"person"

Examples of is in Gith words:

istik "stranger", used to refer to non-githyanki.

is'tark "coward"

ghaik "mindflayer"/"illithid"

ghustil "healer"

jhe'quith dvenzir "the termination of the frail"

jhe'stil "a superior" (to oneself).

k'chakhi "idiot"

kith'rak "captain"

hta'zith "die, creature!"

Mla'ghir "liberator"

qua'nith "psionic detector"

ra'stil "ally"

tl'a'ikith "sword spirit"

vin'isk "minion" or "underling"

zaith'isk "purifier"

Vlaakith

zerthi "Zerth's teaching", a Githzerai Zerthimon monk

This laundry list of words have one thing in common, and it's their use of is, ith, il or i as what I believe to be references to different classes of people.

Ghaik exclusively use the ik, with the exception of the word for stranger, istik. However, due to the scattered nature of the Gith words we have, I don't think it's too hard to believes that istik might actually be is'tik in the same was as "coward" is is'tark, or alternatively, ist'ik. By this line of thought, we can separate ghaik into gha'ik...

Which PROVES MY POINT, because we've previously seen the word gha'g used as an article determiner, i.e. "the", and 'k itself being used as a negative. K on it's own may therefore have a negative root in all forms. The definitive translation of Vlaakith's own name is "death", even, which may have a more cultural role in elevating "kith" words, versus k within other words.

Recall further that words are back-to-front, meaning:

Mindflayers, "ghaik", are gha'ik -> "the being [negative]", using "the" here to indicate an ultimate threat.

Strangers, "istik", are ist'ik -> "person [negative]".

Gathering the many uses of "kith" throughout the Gith dictionary brings results pertaining to positions of power, such as Vlaakith herself and the kith'rak (dragon knights), as well as variations referring weak or distinctly "other" beings, such as the frail (jhe'quith vs. jhe'stil), and psionic beings (nith).

I also believe that the phrase "hta'zith" (die, creature) is a play on the word for Githzerai Zerthimon monks, "zerthi", contracting "zerthi" and "ith" -> "zith" to refer to them in a derogatory/negative fashion.

Jhe from jhe'stil and jhe'quith may be a translation of "power"; therefore, stil is superior (il being another hierarchal translation for person/being) while quith is weak, the literal translation being "frail person". Healer, ghustil, perhaps meant to be ghu'stil is also a position of power.

Overall, the morphology of the words is distinct in regards to referencing peoples of any kind, with grammatical gender referring to class structure within Githyanki culture. Otherwise, there are very few other rules I can gather, excepting the negative role of k.

If anyone who actually has an interest would like to add to this, I would be very grateful, and if it wasn't 1am, I would genuinely have more thoughts.

#long post #githyanki #gith #language #languages #linguistics #morphology #fantasy languages #dnd #bg3 #baldur's gate #dungeons and dragons #it's all very interesting to think about #especially when we don't have the big dictionary they gave devora #who played lae'zel #i really want to explore the role of R and G #but there's not enough material #essay #the essay

[jinksies]

Why is nobody else got githyanki tavs..where r my gith girlies at we r beautiful and independent and we will destroy the enemy and liberate th—

#githyanki #gith tav #bg3 #my gith is legit just..ruby #shes purple tho sry #azula voice* its ok u can laugh. its funny #***

[blackjackkent]

Brought Lae'zel into the party in our flex slot, since we want her on hand for the Orphic chaos. (@zenjestrr tells me we'll have one more chance to update our party before the big ending battle, so we'll probably swap Minsc back in for that.)

Voss is still waiting for us where we last saw him in the sewers. Patient fellow, especially given how much it must stink down there. However, he has a buddy down here with him who wasn't here before!

Who dis?

"Have you brought the Orphic Hammer?"

Hector has questions before he's going to hand over the hammer.

"Who is this new companion of yours?"

"Not a new companion, but an old one. And a loyal one. A proper introduction is in order - but I will let him do the honors."

Poor Voss really looks and sounds worn out as hell and tore up from the floor up. Rebelling against Vlaakith is clearly not a relaxing occupation.

Also that's not technically an answer, but Hector lets it pass for now.

"Where are the rest of your allies?" he asks.

"The remaining honor guard serve as my eyes and ears," Voss answers. "Vlaakith's forces hunt you and the Prism. My allies have slayed more than you know, so that you might travel freely. As for those that break through - you've proven more than capable of bleeding them yourself."

This is rather unsettling for Hector to hear - that there have been many battles going on behind the scenes in defense of him, while he had no knowledge of it at all. He looks at Voss steadily and wonders - how many of this man's friends have died to keep me alive?

"I've retrieved the Hammer," he says quietly.

Voss's head lifts and he lets out a heavy breath, as if a weight he has been carrying up a steep hill has shifted a little, some burden eased just slightly. "The Prince of the Comet is not dead..." he whispers, and Hector recognizes the tone of recitation, of a religious litany. "The Prince of the Comet will come again. The Prince of the Comet will liberate us from the lich queen's tyranny..." He gives a nod of satisfaction. "The prophecy is one step closer to fruition."

"Gith's son will soon ride against Vlaakith, Voss," Lae'zel says sharply. It is the same tone of eager obeisance that she once used in honor of the Lich Queen - and yet not quite the same, too. Hector has watched her grow older and stronger in the time they have traveled together; it is a devotion tempered with, if not yet self-determination, then at least greater self-possession.

Voss nods back at her soberly. "And you will wield the greatest gift Mother Gith ever granted her dauntless children."

"A silver sword," Lae'zel murmurs reverently. "I will carry it for the honor of Gith, the great liberator, and her unforgotten son."

Voss smiles, gives a slight nod of approval, and then his eyes flick back to Hector, all business. "Istik, now that you have the Hammer, you must find a way to enter the Astral Prism. Once inside, smash Orpheus's bonds. His cry will shake the planes, and I will fly to your aid. The Prince of the Comet will soar the heavens again. First we'll defeat the Absolute; then we let the lich queen tremble!"

His voice rises eagerly-- and then Hector feels a stab of pain through his temples as the Emperor speaks, his voice like a slap through Hector's mind.

"Think again," the illithid snaps. "I will not permit your entry."

Well, there it is. The proverbial cat is out of the bag. Not that there was any question of the Emperor noticing what was happening; it was just a matter of when. Hector doesn't bother arguing with him; what would be the point? The creature that once was Balduran has shown no sense of flexibility in smaller matters up to this point, and Hector very much doubts that any sort of appeal now would get very far.

Ignore the Emperor.

"Questions, istik?" Voss asks, unaware of the one-sided battle being waged inside Hector's brain. "You seem to be lost in thought."

Hector shakes himself, trying to ignore the creeping sense of the Emperor's presence watching him, listening to every word. "Getting into the Astral Prism will be... complicated," he says, with deeply dry understatement. Jaheira snorts softly behind him.

"Yes," Voss answers gravely. "But you will meet this challenge, as you've met so many others."

"Glad he's so confident about it," Karlach quips in an undertone, low enough for only Hector to hear.

Hector resists the urge to smile and keeps his eyes focused on Voss. Giving the other man a sharp nod, he steps back.

Leave.

"Istik," Voss says sharply, offering him a githyanki salute. "Friend to Orpheus. Together we will end the elder brain which shakes this city. Then I turn my sighs to Vlaakith, the queen of deceit!"

-----

Voss gives us a very nice looking githyanki sword.

That goes to Lae'zel. And now I get to figure out where the hell we go from here.

#bjk plays baldur's gate 3 #hector carlisle

[daisymeade]

To the Mla'ghir who freed me. To Lae'zel, T'lak'ma'Ghir. My words come to you on slate, for they are immutable and eternal. You are not just liberators - you are all Warriors of the Comet, whatever land you travel, whatever sea you cross, whatever plane you grace. Vlaakith's pawns fall, one by one, at the hands of my faithful. But the City of Death stands, and the Queen sits on her vile throne at its centre. But we stand at a precipice. Lae'zel: thanks to you, we are soon to restore an old kinship, and Vlaakith will burn in the fires thus stoked. The Protocols are written anew, and to you, Mla'ghir, I dedicate the First: All who call themselves gith shall unite under one sky. Gith'ka tavkim krash'ht. Orpheus

#bg3 spoilers #prince orpheus #githyanki #githzerai #baldur's gate #baldur's gate 3 #bg3

[des-no9]

Des' Masterpost

Hey I'm Des <3 Old. Writer mostly, but also artist.

I write a lot about the many shades of love and its beauty, its destruction, identity, grief, loss, trauma. And a lot of things in-between. You'll find a lot of NS FW here.

Fics

Writing Tag

Tales of the Forgotten Prince, his Closest Blade and The Breaker of Chains series - fics following the relationships of Kith'rak Voss, Prince Orpheus and Vanquish from the beginnings of the githyanki, to the events of BG3 and beyond.

Vanquish - deliberate and deep Vanquish's journal entries following significant and poignant moments of her journey in BG3 connected to Kith'rak Voss, Orpheus and Lae'zel. Orpheus/Reader - godless grace You're Prince Orpheus' saviour. And tonight he's going to thank you. Kith'rak Voss/Reader - class in session You're a new sarth under Kith'rak Voss. Fresh blood. And he's going to teach you some respect. Vanquish/Voss - rot and purr Non-con fantasy from Voss' POV. Vanquish/Na'haya - playtime Where Vanquish and one of Orpheus' Honour Guard, Na'haya, unwind a little.

Cyberpunk AU setting and premise

Interactive novel WIPs

I'm currently writing an interactive romance novel where you can fuck the one the only Kith'rak Voss in three unique scenarios.

Any updates and chatter about it here will be posted in the tag #interactive voss

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My short comics: The Space Between - about Orpheus/Voss and grief HO - about Orpheus' tattoos Beast - about being in love with danger Second Hand Love - about sharing love and falling in love because of who we love Sha Va Zai - about the meaning of love to Kith'rak Voss Var'cha - about Kith'rak Voss finding comfort in an unexpected place

Worldbuilding and Language My dictionary of created gith/tir words HCs on the githyanki language drift and words of affection On Gith the Liberator, Vlaakith I, and Zerthimon My re-design and explanation of most of Orpheus' tattoos My githyanki gential HCs Thoughts on young Voss The meaning of istik and mla'ghir to Vanquish, Voss, Orpheus Orpheus and language adjustment

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OTP: Adilshar (Vanquish/Voss) Vanquish and Voss in 5 mins (X)

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#des' masterpost #pinned post #bg3 fic #githyanki #bg3 #kith'rak voss #prince orpheus #vanquish tag #des' fics #bg3 fanfiic

[gothyanki]

Stopped in my tracks by this Very Important Thought: if Orpheus is covered in tattoos from head to toe, Gith might have been too.

#blushes #canon creators: so there's this morally questionable dead woman whose appearance is going to remain undescribed - #me: she's tatted she's buzzed she's ripped and she FUCKS #actually gith is an exception to the “she's buzzed” rule #i do headcanon (haircanon?) both her and zerthimon as wearing their hair long #think lae'zel's kind of style but longer #vlaakith keeps hers super short though #gith the liberator #ot3: across eternal seas #dnd #bg3 #githyanki

[morgana-ren]

I finished the game for the first last night (up til 2:30 am lol) and there was some real hurt when the Emperor just up and joined the Netherbrain as soon as PC put her foot down. Like I played my PC as genuinely giving him a chance to be the person he claimed to be. And he does that "don't you trust me uwu" thing as if the issue is trust and honesty. Like no dude, the issue is that what you are planning is unconscionable, not that you lied about your species. Need to write an essay on it tbh

That's actually where me and my bf started to suspect something. We did it just to see what would happen, and him immediately turning on his heel and joining the netherbrain made us go "What?" because it made no sense.

We questioned whether it was poor writing so that you had to choose, but the game is so well written that it didn't make sense. We couldn't figure out why he would just say 'fuck this' and give up everything and doom the world he claimed to care for just because we decided to liberate the Gith. Why why why--

Unless his true goals that he was obscuring from you would be ruined by the actual defeat of the mindflayer Grand Design.

He claims to want to be a member of society, and just to be treated like a normal person. He claims to want to save the world. That is the lie he tells you to gain your aid. I call it a lie, because it is one. If what he said was true, he would encourage you to release the Gith Prince to truly defeat the Grand Design once and for all, because the Gith Prince has the secret to doing so. If he truly wanted to actually save the world, he would want that security against the other mindflayers.

You know why he wouldn't want the release of the Gith Prince? Because the Gith Prince could foil his Grand Design too.

He says fuck you and runs off to join the netherbrain if you release the prince because he's defeated the netherbrain once, and he could likely do it again. It would be a huge inconvenience and it would knock centuries off his plan, and he would prefer not do, but he would do it. He could break free and end up dominating it somehow. He has proven he has the ability more than once.

The Gith Prince though? The prince knows how to truly defeat mindflayers once and for all, supposedly. He can't plan for it because he doesn't know how. It would well and truly foil his plans forever.

If he wasn't planning his own domination, he would want the prince freed to ensure the safety of all of humanity and the realms from the 'other' mindflayers.

That's the only way that makes sense.

Remember when I said all independent mindflayers are still mindflayers and seek to become the brain versus being a servant of it? Well it's a lot easier to do that if you have a band of gullible humans there to help you defeat the netherbrain and think you are their ally. That opens the way clear up for you to become the netherbrain instead and take over their dominion. Especially when the humans think you are their friend and trust you and don't tend to look into your business.

Withers tries to warn you of this. Many people try to warn you. Even Vlaakith, while mainly concerned for her own power, understands that the mindflayer locked in the prism is dangerous. There are books scattered throughout the world that say without a shadow of a doubt that mindflayers are manipulative bastards that are incapable of human emotions and thoughts. They lie to meet their own ends. At first, I thought it was because maybe he was the first... but really, what are the chances of that? Back that knowledge with my other knowledge on mindflayers and also the fact that you are conveniently ridding the world of the netherbrain for him, creating a power vacuum he plans to fill?

He's evil, dude. He's just using you. He will even admit it if you always choose negative options and don't fall for his ruse.

TLDR; The Emperor is a bastard filled with foreshadowing and you should not trust him.

#morgana and friends #the emperor #mindflayers

[ytptennis]

recruiting my tavs!

Fig: The Oathbreaker Ranger

you meet fig at the beginning of the game along with everyone else. regardless of whether or not you save shart from the pod, she'll be the one trying to open the door to the temple instead. her backstory is that she's actually the gith egg that lady esther stole, & her sect of the society of brilliance raised fig to be very non-gith. once she learned of this as an adult, she killed them & broke her oath as a paladin. she's now following the path of the ranger & falls in love w withers once she gets him out of his sarcophagus. her funky eye is a result of her broken oath.

Peppercorn: The Archdruid of Spores

you meet peppercorn at the same time you meet halsin, because he went to the goblin camp to save her (hence why kagha yells at him for "chasing the past"). she was his teacher when he was a young man, & the first druid to start researching the parasites after she was infected. she'd been gone a long time until halsin heard word of her resurfacing at the camp, where she allowed herself to be captured in order to do more research. she's actually the bird that nettie is communicating with, & has been wildshaping into small animals to learn more about the goblin leaders. her funky eye is a result of stem cell research that fused her biology with that of plants, allowing her to live three times as long as a normal halfling, the catch being she needs photosynthesis regularly to survive.

Soursop & Durian: Apex Predators

you meet soursop, a rogue/shadow monk, & durian, a barbarian/fighter, in the underdark on the hunt for duergar, as well as true soul nere for their own reasons. they're close with blurg & omeluum; fig will not trust them for being tangentially connected to the society of brilliance, even though they are against the beliefs of lady esther's sect. you have to battle them in order to earn their trust, and will join you after assisting in the liberation of the deep gnomes.

Sweetbread: The Dark Urge

you meet sweetbread when you reach the trielta crags. instead of lady esther by that one camp, its sweetbread meditating. she won't interact with you until you start fighting the death shepherds, who are significantly stronger in order to make outside help necessary. after you meet her, she shares that she's trying to find the blood of lathander, hoping that the light it radiates will dispel her dark urge.

#bg3

[crossdressingdeath]

In my Gith playthrough i just had Karlach become a mindflayer so my Tav, Lae'Zel and Orpheus go on to liberate the Githyanki together. And hey, Karlach doesn't have to go back to the hells.

It's always bizarre to me when people talk like Karlach becoming a mind flayer is a better ending for her than going back to the Hells. Especially now that the patch 5 epilogue confirms that just six months into her time there she and whoever she went with have made huge steps towards a permanent solution. Does it suck that Karlach has to go back to the Hells even temporarily? Yes. But it is temporary. Once they figure out how to fix the engine she can come back, and all evidence suggests that they are going to figure out how to fix it (and quite soon at that). Becoming a mind flayer, though? That's forever. There's no fixing it. She will be a soulless, tentacled monster vulnerable to being dragged into hive minds and forced to eat brains to survive until the day she dies, and even that's assuming she doesn't eventually lose herself. Like, obviously everyone can do what they want with their story (gith Tav, Lae'zel and Orpheus going off to free the githyanki together is a solid ending!), but to say that that's a better ending for Karlach just because she doesn't have to go to the Hells is... hm. I don't buy it. And I know she's the one who suggests it and I know she seems happy with it, but she thinks about it for what, thirty seconds? A minute? That's really not enough time to actually consider the ramifications of this choice! It's a huge thing that can't be taken back or undone and it's done as a snap decision immediate solution with the fate of Faerûn hanging in the balance, that's... not a combination that gives me hope she'll be happy with it long term even before going into things like how a mind flayer player character—and presumably also a non-player Karlach, since there's no reason for her response to be different in that situation—spends the whole party being tempted to devour their friends' brains (not a pleasant situation for anyone to be in, especially not someone as kind as Karlach). It's a bit like saying ascended Astarion is the better ending because he can walk in the sun, or god Gale is the better ending because the orb situation is dealt with; sure, that particular problem is sorted! But their other endings also either solve that problem (if Gale gives Mystra the Crown she removes the orb for him) or include plenty of hope that they'll find a solution (there are loads of ways for vampires to walk in the sun and if you romance him you can suggest to Astarion that the two of you go looking for one), and while those solutions might not be as perfect as the characters would like they don't come with the massive negative side effects of their bad endings. I really don't think not having to go to the Hells makes up for turning into a mind flayer!

#bg3 #karlach #asks #anon

[traceofexistence]

since I always play the creche before going to act 2, I have come to understand Lae'zel a bit more.

when we first meet lae when she points a sword at us and calling us thrall, the tadpole shows us her dreams red dragons, and silver swords

when playing Lae origin, if you go to camp right after the crash and take a long rest, she again laments about how her only goal in life is to be kithrak ride a red dragon, and wield a silver sword.

when tav feels sick, and she comes with a blade to take our lives along with the rest and hers because we are changing, you can read her thoughts and her desperation that she never had the chance to prove herself worthy of a red dragon and a silver sword.

all those early on when she's still have not been betrayed by her queen.

now if you talk to the kids and teens in the creche, they are all laser focus on that same goal, be the queen's silver blade and ride a red dragon. this is so ingrained in the githyanki, there simply nothing else for them, the indoctrination is off the roof.

the kids also are brats, taught to be brats

and then you have one teen, who found a book, and even though he didn't think of it as real, he was so inspired by it, he just rejected the gith teachings.

and the difference here is that it is not a religion, that's why Lae'zel can break free so easily once she's betrayed.

it shows how young Lae is, of course we know she's still considered a child by her peers, we know she's like 22years old, so she still maintains her childish dream to ride a dragon and wield a silver sword. after Vlaakith's betrayal her goals change, but she's sad for what she lost. but that kid is no more, when she says "Vlaakith can not harm her who does not exist" meaning she's not the same anymore. she's a different person, with her eyes opened, and a new goal. and while it seems that she leaves one goddess for another god, I dont think that is the case with her, she leaves a tyrant, a usurper, to join the resistance that will bring the githyanki liberation.

the gith society has every red flag a cult has, and then some more.

all gith need is a different leadership and they can see the world differently.

that's why Orpheus is so important

even Voss the first time we meet him he tells the other gith who just slaughtered some humans, that they are not here to play with the locals, even if it sounds brutal, he still scold in his way the gith there.

#lae'zel #githyanki

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Was tagged by a few lovely people (in order: @bg3 @mythrae and @camelliagwerm) to make my BG3 OCs in this Picrew. thank you guys!! I..... okAy so I only have one BG3 OC that i've played as so far unfortunately (Although i do have plans for a Gith character in my co-op playthrough with Fray) SO you all get a bonus Killian 🧡 I'm actually not sure who hasn't been tagged in this one yet since i've been seeing it make the rounds so if you haven't been tagged already, consider this your tag and enjoy my boys

Malachy (he/him)— from Baldur's Gate 3. Half-elf, submissive Dark Urge, Rogue/fighter, neutral to chaotic evil, 💚 Lae'zel

Killian (he/him)— from my original fantasy world. Human, Rogue, center of an ancient prophecy, Revolutionary, kind and intelligent man turned ruthless liberator and tactician

#killian tag #malachy tag