if kim only cares about people's worth if they're in the RCM then why in the fuck was he about to give his jacket to some random ass kid
yeah sure the guy who only cares about other RCM officers if they're good was about to part with the only item of clothing keeping him somewhat warm in a place where there's ice thick enough to support two grown men and a bunch of other shit absolutely
(edit: i'd appreciate it if you take a look at this version instead x it contains way more nuance and some amazing additions)
(edit 2: here's a version with IDs as well x )
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Do you agree w/ the fandom interpretation that john was so homophobic he’d have beaten up and abandoned his sons for being gay? Cause sure, he grew up in the 60s as a mechanic and then later became a marine during the vietnam war, but i also don’t think homophobia would’ve necessarily been a priority for him? Like obviously he’s not gonna be the full on supportive and politically correct loving dad, but i think that the fandom’s general opinion on that is pretty warped by people’s relationships w/ their own fathers
I do think this is one place where people tend to project. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that; working out our issues through fiction is healthy and good! I don’t think there’s any canon proof of it beyond, as you said, him being a marine from the sixties who would probably not be super knowledgeable about being queer, maybe a little apprehensive about it from what he’s absorbed through the culture he grew up in. I think we’d be correct to point out that if Sam or Dean were queer, he might be uncomfortable about it, he might try to avoid the topic, which is in of itself hurtful.
The thing about me is: I fully disagree that John was ever physically abusive towards his kids. At most, I will bend this interpretation to say he was probably too harsh on them while teaching them to fight and that maybe he and Sam have traded blows before when arguments got too loud (by blows, I mean, probably shoving with the yelling, you know, assertion of physical space. It seems realistic to me that two people who have been using violence for a long time to protect themselves, and for John, his family, down to the hierarchal power he’s put in place of him -> Dean -> Sam, would resort to it when things got too heated.)
(I also think that sometimes fandom’s insistence that John had to be physically abusive can sometimes get a little insulting because it perpetuates the idea that emotional abuse does less harm and can be overlooked and for flattening out John’s character in a way the show very literally pointed to and said He Did Not Do That. This is the entire point of Max’s episode in s1, for the show to point out that their experiences of abuse were different. How well it was handled is arguable, but I take it as clear evidence that when we talk about John’s relationship with his sons, the focus should be on the emotional abuse, the codependency he developed with Dean from a very young age, his neglect of them both, his attempts to suppress Sam, etc. And I appreciate this about the show, because you can’t talk about any of those things without also talking about why they’re happening, why John thinks this is necessary, how he loves his sons and isolates them to protect them and ends up doing more and more damage that will never leave them through their entire lives.
I’m sure there’s depictions of John being physically abusive that handle it with the same amount of nuance that the show handles him being emotionally abusive in canon. I have not seen them, unfortunately. I’ve seen John being physically abusive 90% of the time just being used as shorthand for him being Bad and Evil and A Terrible Father. Which does not interest me. So I will remain here as a staunch defender of He Would Not Fucking Hit His Kids.)
Sorry, okay, we got off topic there this is about gay shit.
The point of All Of That was for me to be able to say, John’s not going to react to his sons being queer by beating them. He’s definitely not going to abandon them. Hello? John Winchester? Abandon his kids? John Winchester, the guy who has been keeping them in warded up motel rooms their whole lives and moving them across the country out of paranoia the demon who killed his wife could find them if they say anywhere too long? John Winchester who only trusted one or two people to ever look after his sons when he went on a hunting trip too long? We think that John would ditch his kid because they’re queer???
Like I said, I think the most realistic reaction for John, (if not just flat out him going ‘that’s fine, now load this gun while I time you because that’s more important for me to know that you can do’, because. He kind of has bigger priorities to worry about here. Like werewolves.) would be discomfort and pushing it out of his view, ignoring it. Which would still fucking hurt! And would have horrible effects on Sam and Dean both, would encourage Dean to repress it if he thinks his dad is ashamed of him, would push Sam away if he trusts John with this fact about himself and can’t be accepted easily.
I just think this is truer to John’s character.
Anyway. If nothing else here persuades anyone reading that John Would Not Fucking Do That, well. He thought his kid was demonspawn, remember? He thought Sam was corrupted and might not be able to be saved. I don’t think you can get more clear queercoding than that, and you know what John’s very telling response was to that information, to finding out something a thousand times more terrifying than Sam being gay ever could be? To refuse to look at it. To insist to himself that whatever Hell wanted with Sam, he wouldn’t let it happen. To tell Dean to take care of it, because even when John is certain that his son might literally become a demon, he could never bring himself to pull the trigger on him. Because he loves Sam.
So like. He literally would not do anything for the much smaller realization that Sam is gay. His son has demon blood that might turn him super evil, and John still wouldn’t hurt him.
I guess what I’m trying to say here is, I try to keep the fact that John loved his sons at the forefront of my mind when I’m writing stuff about him, because I think if you let that slide out of your head, you can very easily make him much worse, much more flat than he was in canon. The real picture of him is just an extremely flawed man in a terrible situation who fucks up his kids as much as he protects them.
And also he wouldn’t care about them being gay because JohnAzazel real and true and they fucked sloppy in that hospital basement-
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I’m not saying that a lot of Regulus fans are only interested in him because they picture him as a Timothee Chalamet insert and wouldn’t give half a fuck about the character if that fancast didn’t exist but… oh wait that is what I’m saying.
yeah i mean. i definitely think there's something in that lol honestly. as ive said before i never really got the interest in regulus i just couldnt care less about the guy he genuinely has zero canon character but. simultaneously i can see how the little that we do know about him makes him an interesting character and i can see why people enjoy the idea of him as a blank slate that you can superimpose nearly any traits you want on to--treating regulus as essentially an oc gives you lots of room for creation. its for these exact reasons that he is of no interest to me personally, and i really don't like the common conceptualisation of him that has emerged from popular headcanon consensus (especially when it involves stripping his character of all agency and half the things that could arguably make him compelling in order to gloss over the fact that he was a death eater) but thats a matter of opinion i suppose. thats a me problem. its just not my cup of tea.
the timothee chalamet thing irritates me for the same reason the ridiculous instagram model/influencer/celebrity fancasts for most characters irritate me, because one of the ONLY things we know about regulus is that he is 'less handsome than sirius'. like ok why not work with that. especially with a character like him where there is virtually nothing to work with. like please explain to me why you refuse to accept that im genuinely curious. why is that the aspect of his character you are so firmly refuting lol.
all in all, if the character is only likeable or interesting or a convincing love interest if you have to pretend they were actually super conventionally attractive, maybe they're just not that likeable or interesting or well-suited to the character you're trying to pair them off with. its a personal thing again i am just not interested in reading/writing about a cast of characters who are all meticulously tailored to conform to beauty standards i do not respect. the minute u try to convince me all your characters are super hot n yassified it all feels less real to me sorry i care less about them. im bored of hot characters i think all fictional characters should be made to look like normal everyday people and i think everyone should be less afraid of so-called ugliness i triple dog dare u
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do you have any horror film recs for this month of october?
oh i absolutely have MANY horror movie recs i love horror movies & in particular horror movies that are terrible so if u enjoy those my friend & i have a literal list of every movie we have watched and have rated all of them i will list for u some of my favorites 🤩 i will give u some funny/campy ones & then i will give u some actual scary ones too for variety
killer klowns from outer space: literally unironically my favorite movie ever it is SO campy & only a little scary i am afraid of clowns & it did not freak me out so if ur scared of clowns u should be good i literally bought it on dvd bc it is so special to me lmfao ALSO the theme song for it is an absolute banger unironically
vampire’s kiss: um literally hilarious movie where nicolas cage thinks he’s a vampire i dressed up as him from this movie in halloween in 2021 bc it was so iconic not THAT much of a horror movie but like it’s serious it’s not a joke it’s just hilariously bad lol
serial mom: literally iconique movie abt a housewife that kills a bunch of ppl it’s a satire so it’s “bad” on purpose but i loved that go women she did nothing wrong
zombeavers: this movie is stupid af it’s like typical horror movie set up a bunch of teenagers go to cabin in the woods for spring break except there’s a bunch of beavers that were altered by a radioactive substance or smth and then starts biting them and turning them into legit zombie beavers good as a really dumb slasher type movie though lol also the ending absolutely sent me ngl
teeth: including this for the feminism of it all. girl gets teeth on her vagina & kills men using it. iconic. feminist. AGAIN. she did nothing wrong. not a great movie but #feminism #girlboss
ok here r some actual scary movies for u i don’t really get scared by horror movies unless i watch them alone which i did not for these but i can objectively say they r scary so lol
the exorcist: this movie is def scary my friend and i just kept cracking up abt a joke i was making so that took us out of it but like we alternated between that & being like 🫢 at some of the lines in this movie it’s like crazy lol. so if u really want to scare urself watch this alone in the dark
the ring: recommending this entirely bc naomi watts in this movie is THE most attractive woman alive to me i was totally taken out of it bc of that BUT i know many ppl r freaked out by this movie so
sinister: i will say this movie DID actually freak me out so. more so bc it was violent in a way where like u could almost feel it urself if ykwim…
the witch (stylized as vvitch): i’m ngl i personally found this movie a little boring but if you like more artsy very quiet type horror movies this one is good plus it has a good female lead in it. also notice how many times the father goes out to chop wood when he’s stressed bc it’s really funny.
og halloween movie: including this bc halloween obvs but mostly bc my mom loves it & also she would put it on when i was a child and i saw parts of it & i was so scared of michael meyers 😭
i have many more movies but i will leave it there bc that is a large variety i can give u more if u want though lol.
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