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kacchanrawr · 3 years

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Bakugo Katsuki is always misunderstood

I think people misunderstanding Kacchan isn't a matter of him keeping his feelings vague. He's been pretty direct with expressing himself plenty of times, so it's a matter of interpretation. Hori purposely writes Bakugo in a way that there's supposed to be two or more interpretations. Not just for the readers, but for the people in MHA itself as well.

Hori luring us into thinking that Bakugo was just the stereotypical asshole in chapter 1, was what made Kacchan vs Deku 2 so good for a lot of people. Of course, there were scenes before it where it was shown that there was much more to Kacchan than that, like the way he was breaking down after he lost against Deku. But those could've been brushed off by others as wishful thinking, or just fans bending over backwards for the sake of headcanons. So seeing him straight up cry and admit that he felt guilty about ending All Might was like actually confirming those.

There's this satisfying feeling of "I knew it!", when you find out that the way you read between the lines was actually right. It feels like a reward for putting up with Bakugo antis when it is actually directly confirmed. It feels like you can finally disprove the people who have been calling you delusional or saying you're reaching too far.

That's how it felt like when chapters 284-285 came out. Bkdks have been saying that Kacchan's been expressing his care for Deku in chapters 274-275 and for many bkdk moments before that, but they could be brushed off by others as just 'Bakugo being Bakugo' or him helping Deku for his own gain.

In chapter 284, we get a direct comparison of how their relationship and Bakugo's feelings are interpreted by others at a surface level, vs how he really feels inside. It just seems like a normal sparring session for 'Bakugo to get stronger himself' as he mentioned when he first trained with Deku for blackwhip, but he's actually also doing it because he cares for Deku. There still is the competition and rivalry of course, but a lot of people think that that's the only thing there could be to it.

Volume 29 was like Hori straight up smacking people in the face because they still couldn't or wouldn't acknowledge Bakugo and Bakudeku's development. The smaller gestures aren't grand enough for them, so he just straight up makes Bakugo sacrifice himself for Deku.

(Ok that's actually more of personal experience. When I drop hints about something, and some people understand, while some people deny their suspicions, those people will call the people who did get it right wrong. I get frustrated because maybe it's my fault as well for being too subtle. So I straight up drop the bomb.)

It felt like the fact that Kacchan cares for Deku is officially established. No more misunderstandings! It's the Bakugo and Bkdk antis bending over backwards to deny or ignore it.

So the way the actual characters just misunderstand Bakugo again in chapter 303 hits hard. Like, didn't we just officially establish that Bakugo genuinely cares for Deku? Why would his own classmates just brush it off? Why is it brushed off in the story itself, in general?

While Bakugo himself really is someone you could misinterpret easily, I thought they wouldn't, because they're his friends. Why does it feels like Sato's saying he's disturbing the 'worried for Deku' mood? Why does it feel like Ochako and Iida are talking about him like a rabid dog? You'd regress on his relationship with his classmates, and the established fact that everyone knows he cares for Deku, for a gag? Feels really shitty.

Oh, but what if it wasn't an established fact for his classmates? That's what made me think that they probably don't know he got his injuries from sacrificing himself for Deku.

#mha #bnha #my hero academia #mha 303 #bnha 303 #bakugo katsuki #bakugo #kacchan #bakudeku #bkdk #katsudeku #okay maybe im just reading too much into it and im just really nitpicky when it comes to even the slight tones and small dialogues #but it's kacchan you know?#i still think im overreacting tho #bye i may have misarranged some paragraphs and pics a while ago sorry if you had to read it like that

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byallmeans1 · 3 years

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Me, cleaning my throat on the rooftop before I shout:

The fact that it's been hinted that Levi harbored feelings for Hange doesn't take away from the fact that that he was also in love with Erwin. Both are valid and Levi is still good representation because bisexuals are often misunderstood (this probably isn't the right term I'm sorry) in and out of the lgbtq+ community and branded as "confused" or "attention seekers". The discource of Eruri var Levihan proves this more than anything that bisexuality still isn't accepted and makes the need for representation even more important. Both ships had buildup, read the manga and stop biphobia and bisexuality erasure in media and in general. Also I'm pretty sure Hange is non binary which is also overlooked and blatantly ignored by the fandom ocassionaly which honestly, shame... Thanks for listening my Ted talk!!

(jokes aside I hope I got the point across right and didn't say anything offensive... If I did I'm deeply sorry and most likely didn't translate my thoughts very well since english isn't my first language and i have the communication skills of a newborn... 😖)

You're so right, anon! I guess some people just can't ship one character with two people. You know, loving only one person in a lifetime is a wonderful concept (only in fiction though :D) , and even I, when I think of Eruri and Levihan, like to divide them into two different universes. But even in the canonverse its possible to ship both, when you throw that "one love in a lifetime" aside! Levi falling deeply in love with Erwin, caring about him and following him around, and when Erwin dies, Hanji is there for Levi? And Levi realises they have always been there for him? When farlan and Isabel died? When he had no friends, Hanji stuck to him like glue, not minding his usual grumpiness. They accepted him just the way he was. And so, after Erwin's death, Levi slowly falls for Hanji. You can literally ship both in the canonverse.

My personal headcanon is that Levi is a panromantic demisexual though. I don't see him as a bisexual person, but i agree with what you said about bisexuals being misinterpreted and being told they're just confused. That sucks.

To be honest, I suspected I might be a little bit biphobic when I was trying to figure out why Er3Hisu pisses me off so much. But then I realised Yumikuri was such a wonderful ship, perfectly build up from start to finish, and then, when Ymir dies Hisu is being shipped with Eren fucking Yeager. And then I found out Historias bisexuality is not the case. Its just that every ship with Historia and a dude fucking sucks, and that's Isayama's fault. He put all of his heart into Yumihisu, and then he just threw Eren fucking Yeager, who I hate with passion, at her. And then Farmer-kun, who doesn't even have a face. Like- does she even love him? The only Historia ship that made any sense imo was Yumikuri.

I'm sorry for being off topic but I just needed to shout EREN FUCKING YEAGER FUCKING SUCKS AND EVERYONE EXCEPT FLOCH DESERVES BETTER.

Now, back to the nb Hanji... I love the fact that Hanji is nonbinary, and I also love the idea of Hanji being a woman, as I grew up convinced she was (I watched anime where they used gendered pronouns and I didnt know anything about manga Hanji). When I found out hanji might be nb, that was the first time I came across this term. I loved the idea of the nb folks getting some representation, but i was also scared of my own ignorance, that's why I stuck to female hanji for long. Now I'm educating myself on this topic, because I can't stay ignorant forever. I wish I could do both Hanji's!

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bakugou-simp · 4 years

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⚠️SPOILERS for bnha, and the heroes rising movie⚠️

I have rarely voiced these opinions, but I think it's about time I did.

See, there is a fine difference between ships and what is more likely to be canon, for me at least. As of right now I do not believe that bkdk will come anywhere near to being a canon romantic relationship, not only because of the type of manga/anime bnha is but also because of the development and change that would need to happen in order for it to even be possible. For the type of manga, I also believe Izuku or Katsuki being with anyone of the same sex is also out of the question. Horikoshi has put two transgender characters (and supposedly a bisexual character) in his manga, yes, but I do not see us getting anything more than that.

I am a multishipper through and through however, and I ship almost anything you can name that isn't incest, pedophilia, or abusive. Kirideku, for instance, and Todobaku as well. I like those ships, I think they're very cute and make a lot of sense. The only ships I don't like (I won't name them) I dislike purely because of the people who ship them. The way they act completely disgusts me.

But let's take a look at why BakuDeku, in my opinion, is commonly misunderstood.

I think there are a lot of misconceptions about the BakuDeku ship, and I don't say this just because I personally ship it.

Katsuki

Season 1, as soon as Katsuki was introduced I hated his guts. I couldn't stand watching him bully Izuku, let alone telling him to go and jump off of a building. I wanted to reach through the screen and punch him myself. I don't take things like that lightly, and so I thought to myself I will never like this character. Even as time went on, season 2 and all the way up to season 3, I couldn't stand him.

He was an abusive person terrified of his childhood friend becoming something that perhaps he feared that he himself could not. He's disgusting towards everyone, showing only disrespect and arrogance.

When he was kidnapped is when things started to change for me.

Not just his reaction alone-- "Deku, stay back"--but also Izuku's. Izuku is one to forgive way too easily, in my opinion, but I doubt he forgives someone if he truly doesn't think they deserve it. So for whatever reason, Izuku thinks Bakugou deserves his trust and forgiveness.

If you look at it like this-- Izuku knowing Katsuki better than anyone else, not only from his observations but as well from his up close interactions with the other. Taking this into account, maybe Izuku knows something we don't about Katsuki. We know for sure his mother was borderline abusive--as seen from that conversation with Todoroki as well as just how she treats him--, but is that all? We can't know for certain, but it seems that Izuku might.

Let's say that none of that is true, let's go ahead and say that Katauki is just what he seems to be: an arrogant prick with a superiority complex. Even so it's impossible to say that he hasn't changed at all.

Take this scene for example. Just from this scene alone, from this one thing that he tells a kid he doesn't even know, you can see how much he's grown from when he was 14 years old.

This is turning into more of a Bakugou thing rather than a bkdk one, but hang in there. This is important too.

He has gone from believing that he is the best of those around him, thinking that everyone else will only get in his way, to recognizing that he has weaknesses just like everyone else. That in its self is a feat to be praised, but top that off with the realization that if he keeps putting others down he'll never see his own weaknesses and you've got one heck of a character development process. Granted, that won't be enough to make up for things he has done in his past.

So let's take a look at his past, shall we?

Raised in a home with, while loving, a push over father and a brash and aggressive mother. Whether or not she realized what she was doing, or even if she had been raised in the same way and doesn't see it as wrong, the way she yelled at him undoubtedly rooted something not short of some sort of trauma (disclaimer: I am no expert on trauma) into him. Not only that, but she probably pushed him to be better. Constantly; be better, you aren't good enough, you call that trying? So on, and so on.

Being told his entire life that his quirk is amazing, those around him letting him believe he is an undeniable leader, all of that has made him into what we see in the beginning.

Even before he got his quirk he probably thought he was better than those around him and that they also knew that, that they would follow him for protection or some sort of recognition from great power.

So, we have a 14 year old who thinks the world eats out of his hands. He sees Izuku, quirkless Izuku, as something not worth his time. Someone as great as him has no reason to play around with someone as worthless as Deku.

There is obviously the hinted at miscommunication, as shown during the Deku vs Kacchan 2 fight. The fact that apparently Katsuki sees everything Izuku does as looking down on him, mocking him, calling him weak and so on.

As a person who struggles with this, I can assure you it really is hard to tell the difference between someone genuinely wanting to help and secretly saying they don't think you can do it. Obviously I realize not everyone looks down on me, but because of the need to be independent and to prove myself to those around me, it feels like every outstretched hand is going to burn me when I grab it. Katsuki is far worse in that regard than I am, so I can only imagine how hard it is to admit to himself that someone is offering help and not mockery.

So let's say this entire time, their entire lives spent together, Katsuki has seen Izuku--someone who was quirkless--as one of the many people who doubts his abilities. Of course he's going to treat him worse than he treats others, but none of that makes it okay. None of that, any of this, erases what has been done.

That being said it does create a bridge for his redemption, for a deserved forgiveness, and yes I truly do believe he will earn that forgiveness.

It's going to take a long time for him to grow into the fact that accepting help doesn't equal to accepting defeat, and that offering it doesn't equal to the belief of weakness.

Katsuki, in my opinion, started to see his faults around the time be befriended Kirishima. Kirishima is strong, so obviously Katsuki is going to want him on his side, but there is more to it than that. I truly believe that Kirishima sparked the change in Katsuki, or at least held the match for the flame to be sparked.

Kirishima and Katsuki's friendship is what I imagine Izuku and Katsukis's might have been like if Izuku had gotten a quirk, as that is all that mattered to Katsuki. He never cared much about the person attatched to the quirk, only how it might help him. Meeting Kirishima, a person who believes everyone is strong and that they can do anything they want with the resources handed to them, must have irritated the piss out of him. Another person who seemed to think that the weak could be strong.

Being around that kind of thinking will eventually rub off on you, however. Even off onto someone like Katsuki. Especially after seeing Izuku's potential with his own two eyes.

So all of those thoughts of Izuku being a weak nobody turned instead to thoughts of Izuku being a threat to him and his goal. It's better than the first, but it really doesn't do well for them being anything other than rivals.

So, right now in his character development process? BakuDeku even being friends seems like a far off thought.

So now, let's take a look at Izuku.

Izuku

His entire life he's been told by Katsuki that he is lesser, he will amount to nothing, he's completely worthless. That never stopped him from arguing, denying, or wanting to be a hero. Finding out he has no quirk didn't stop him, and being told he might as well die didn't stop him.

Izuku is a wonderful person with a huge heart, a heart that wants to save every single person it comes across, and a heart that sees the best in everyone around it.

He went from being someone in the background, never standing out or doing extraordinary things to a person who will stop at nothing to save one single life. He no longer lingers at the sides, or fears his own abilities. He strikes with confidence in himself, in his peers, teammates, and all of those around him. He uses the hearts of those he wishes to save as a boost to help him win the day.

Meeting Iida and Uraraka, and many other amazing individuals, helped him realize that there are people who believe in him and want to see him succeed. Not everyone will treat him like Kacchan, or only see him as being in the way.

Do I believe that he had to have resented Katsuki in some way for some amount of time? Absolutely. In fact, he might still.

Him forgiving Katsuki wasn't out of the others development at all. It was out of his own achievements, his own confidence, that he was able to come past all of that negativity and believe in himself as a hero. For that reason, he was able to at least not hurt from what Katsuki done to him, if he hasn't yet forgiven him.

Sadly I don't have a lot to say about Izuku's development, or his thought process, but I do know that Katsuki has always been his image of victory, and I do now believe that he can finally see himself as his own image of victory. Or at least, more than just his tormentor.

Heroes Rising

I want to talk a little about the events of heroes rising, dispite it not being a canon part of the universe. It has been said that the movie was what Horikoshi imagined the end of bnha to be, and that is what I'm going with here.

In the movie Katsuki is still his usual superior self, treating Izuku the same as he always has. When there is no immediate danger, and even during a fight neither of them expected to walk away from. Now this may be do to Horikoshi changing it to fit more into just an alternate period of the present instead of perhaps a more time skipping version, but I am not aware of that being false nor true.

Even so, Izuku showed the same amount of care for every individual person as he always does. Katsuki on the other hand, he seemed to care just a little more than his typical self.

Even going as far as to use Sero's actual name when he's calling out, concerned for the other.

Especially, in the way he treated Izuku suggesting giving him one for all just so they could win the battle.

They both knew what this would mean for Izuku, and it's pretty obvious Katsuki didn't want to do it at first, but he's not clueless. He knew that Izuku was right, without two one for all's they and everyone on the island would have died. Throughout the process never once does he say anything about himself, he's only ever concerned about what would happen to Izuku and about saving the island.

Izuku was willing to give up his dream for an entire island, because that is his dream. His dream is to save lives and become the greatest hero, and saving an entire island is exactly that. He trusted Katsuki because he knew All Might would, and if All Might would trust this quirk with a person such as Katsuki, clearly others besides us, Katsuki and Izuku can see his development.

Their Relationship

Now, in regards to the actual conversation of misconceptions. I do believe that at first glance, that being not taking into consideration home life and miscommunications among these two in their own time, any sort of romantic relationship for these two would be seen as abusive. Because right now, if they both weren't more busy with training to be heroes rather than relationships and for some reason decided to be together, that's what it would be. Katsuki has a lot of things to sort through in his own head, and after he gets that settled they both have a long road to being able to be anything close to friends.

So being rivals is the best for them at the moment. They are each others core motivation, the reason they push and push themselves even when there's nothing left to push. Which over time is going to build a strong connection, more than what they have.

Eventually I do believe they could be friends, a hero duo is even more likely as they've already proven just now as training heroes that they work well together.

That being said if anything romantic were to come of it, it would be in a much later date.

Another misconception might be that bkdk shippers either ignore the way Katsuki has treated Izuku or just don't see it at all, which may very well be true about a lot of younger (or even older) people who might just see their rivalry as some sort of romantic tension. Which happens a lot in anime. However many of us see this ship and see the development, the huge development that will take place in order to be something more, and that is something we would absolutely love to see.

Shipping (for me personally)

I think that most ships in this fandom have good reasons for being shipped, and even if they don't as I've said there is a difference between shipping something and thinking it will become canon.

Personally, I think any ship becoming canon would ruin the manga. I see bnha as something that is perfect without any building romance, that being said a little background romance wouldn't hurt.

As far as relationships among the students goes, I'd hate to see any of them actually start dating. At this age, when they're doing things that are far more important, it doesn't seem like the right decision at all. That doesn't stop me from reading fanfictions, or looking at fanart, or saying that I ship two or more characters together. It's all harmless fun, until you turn into an Anti. I have absolutely no respect for antis and I severely hope they never interact with me.

In conclusion

I do not think that bkdk will be a canon ship in the mangas current timeline. That however, doesn't mean I can't ship them or think that eventually something could come of all of their character development.

Like it or not a good part of Izuku, his development, his personality, his dreams and life goal come from Katsuki. They come from knowing him nearly his entire life, from seeing him as a symbol of victory since they were kids and even up until now.

You can dislike bakudeku as a ship, you can ship other things and all that, but to deny that they aren't important to each others entire character-- and yes I do mean both of them, Katsukis's character also revolves a lot around Izuku--is to be blinded by your "hate" for the ship or even for Katsuki as a character. BakuDeku as a friendship/rivalship is way more important than as a relationship, and I think that's something everyone who loves either of them needs to respect.

The entire reason that they are were they are right now is because of All Might, their shared admiration for a strong hero for different aspects of said hero. That he never loses, and that he always saves everyone. Both traits make up their own respective heroes, Izuku and Katsuki happening to be opposites on that spectrum.

Their current existence thrives off of each other. Where they once looked to All Might for motivation, they now find it amongst themselves. As seen many times, when Katsuki asks Izuku "when are you going to hurry up and make that quirk your own?" You can choose to see that as him looking down on Izuku, but all I see is him wanting Izuku at his fullest potential so they can both give their all against each other, while at the same time with each other (though I doubt the second part is what Katsuki is thinking, those are just my thoughts.)

All in all, they push each other to be better, and I can't help but respect that.

(I'm sure there will be at least one person who will come around and reblog this just to say how much they disagree with me and why I'm wrong, so if you're that person I'd appreciate it if you just didn't. Your opinions are your opinions, but I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong so I don't want to see you telling me that. Thank you.)

posted on tue, Aug 25th

#don't come for me #these are just my personal opinions #and how I see it all #so if you disagree #disagree in silence #thank you #bkdk #bakudeku #bakugou katsuki #izuku mydoria #katsuki x izuku #bakugou x midoriya

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