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trudemaethien · 4 months
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thank you for speaking up about precocious puberty. as someone who started puberty at age 6, that shit is traumatic
I am so sorry you went through that; I thought ten years old was too soon, myself, and then in the next generation of my family, nine… but six? I cannot imagine 🫂🫂🫂
this legislation clearly doesn’t care about people like this. it’s absolutely horrifying.
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Detransition: School Indoctrination, Bullying, Testosterone Damage, and Healing - Jade Martin
Chloe: What was your life like before you transitioned?
Jade: Well, I socially transitioned at 12. So, my life before that, I was the girliest girl ever, the most stereotypical little girl that you can imagine. I loved princesses and dolls and fairy tales. I was just very girly. But I was also heavily bullied, from the minute I was entered into kindergarten, I was isolated. I don't know why. I think it's because I was awkward and had social anxiety but, I was bullied up until I hit puberty.
Chloe: Why was that?
Jade: I don't know. They would pick at me for random stuff, my eyebrows or having bug eyes, being tall. I wasn't tal, I mean, the bullying picked up when I hit puberty, because the other girls hadn't gone through what I was going through. I was growing hair and a chest. And I didn't want to wear a bra because I was uncomfortable so it just made them stand out more. And I was growing fast. I mean it was obvious that I had hit puberty and that's what I was bullied for.
Chloe: It's hard enough dealing with developing so much and so quickly at a young age. And then like the social element of your peers pointing it out and bullying you for it, has to make it all the more difficult. How did that affect your your view of yourself? Did it affect the way that you saw being a woman and femininity?
Jade: Definitely. I was scared. I didn't know what it was. When I first got my period, I thought I was dying. I was that little I was nine years old. And no fault to my mom, you know, what parent thinks their daughter is going to get their period that young? And I grew up teaching my older cousins about their periods, which was crazy because they were like 14. They got theirs at like 14, 13, 12, but I was nine.
Chloe: And you're the one telling them about it.
Jade: Yeah. And now they're the first ones to have kids, and I don't. Not yet. But it was uncomfortable. Not the puberty itself. I think I was scared at the very beginning but after that I got used to it. I wasn't ready to grow up. I still wanted to play with dolls, and hitting puberty is growing up so I I feel like...
Chloe: There's just too much, too soon.
Jade: Yeah, it was too much, too soon. And about one or two years later, the kids in my class hit puberty. They all grew taller than me. That's another thing they picked on me for was being tall. Five-three. I'm not tall. So eventually they towered over me. I stopped being the tall freak that was taller than the teachers. Their breasts grew bigger than mine. I was this freak that got her period and had to change her pads in the middle of class, but suddenly they were growing faster and acting promiscuous and having sex and kissing and making out. Mind you, this was when they were like 11, 12.
Chloe: That's pretty early.
Jade: I was freaked out. My perception of romance and love when I was little was what you see on Disney, like fairy tale stuff. You know, a prince comes to sweep me up and he takes me to his castle and we get married and he courts me, pretty much. I didn't think that love was dressing in small clothes to get a boy's attention or stuffing your bras or having sex. That scared me. Not only did I grow up too fast because my period came earlier than everybody else, but now I was being pressured to grow even more. And that was uncomfortable. I forced myself to stop playing with dolls, and I didn't want to. So, that did affect my relationship with being a woman, the over-sexualization.
Chloe: But how did that then turn into wanting to become a boy, not believing that you're a woman? What was the turning point?
Jade: The turning point was the internet. It was Tumblr, it was Instagram, it was YouTube. I didn't even know what transgender was until I went on the internet. And the only reason I had been on there was because I had no friends. I would have a single friend here and there, but at the end of the day I was alone. I didn't go out and play with other kids, I didn't invite them over. When I went online, I found these stories of fictional characters that I had enjoyed. YouTubers. And both of these characters were male, and teenagers and adults online would write these stories about these two men falling in love. And that appealed to me because it was love, but without being a woman. And alongside that there were also people online telling me that I could be one of those guys. I could become a boy and experience that kind of love.
Chloe: Were you interacting directly with those people at the time?
Jade: Some of them, yes. Some of them were posts and group chats. But yes, I was talking to adults at a very young age.
Chloe: What exactly would they say?
Jade: We would share those interests. So if we were into two male YouTubers and we paired them up together. We were in group chats together. And that's how we would talk. And that's how I was introduced to transitioning, and I slowly fell into a hole of transition videos. And my gut was telling me that it was off and it was wrong, but you know, this was the answer. I could finally be a real boy. I don't have to try to earn love by being sexual. I can be these two gay men in fiction and be loved for who I am and not for my appearance.
Note: Helena Kerschner has a very well laid out and argued hypothesis about the influence of fandoms, which is worth a look: "Trans, Tumblr & Fandom"
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intersex-questions · 8 months
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Hey! Wanted to ask, are there any intersex variations that cause early puberty? We started puberty at around 3/4 years old and were further in puberty that our older sister, who was 11 at the time (and going through average puberty). We asked our mom about it, and she got incredibly defensive and upset before she said that she stopped us from eating pizza and ice cream and made us eat fresh fish, which made it stop. I don't really believe her because she lies ALOT (which my entire family is aware of), especially about things regarding my childhood. Not only that, we were poor at the time and we couldn't even afford regular fish from stores much less for fresh fish which was wayy more expensive and my siblings and I don't remember having much fish as a kids unless it was given to us by non-family memebers. And around that time, she started taking us to the doctor to get very painful shots even tho we weren't sick and had all of our vaccines already. Even with all that stuff she claims to have done puberty still didn't really stop. Quite literally, the only thing we didn't experience till we were 12 was shark week, and we started growing boobs at 3, but it stopped and started back at around 8. Apart from that, we had been experiencing everything else since we were 3. It was really difficult and painful growing up like that. People thought it was okay and acceptable to treat us like shit and also adultify us. When we were a pre-teen, certain stuff became much more noticeably masculine looking and we also think we may have hirutism (did the ferriman-gallwey thing and got 23) which also led to our parents becoming way worse to us in regard to this and to more harassment from others. Ah shit im kinda rambling sorry I hope this makes sense
(also regarding the we/our's in this, we have DID and use we/our and i/my interchangeably)
Don't worry, you're making sense! No need for apologies. Rambling is welcome on this blog and is actually very beneficial to me helping and answering your questions/concerns.
(Since you're a system, please note that when I use "you" as a collective to refer to the whole system or all the individuals who relate to or are experiencing what you sent in the ask!)
First off, I'm very sorry about all the hardships you've had to go through. That's awful, and no one deserves that. You are wonderful the way you are.
Now, to answer your questions!
Precocious puberty is the term for early puberty. This is what you experienced. There have been some studies that connect eating fish to delaying puberty, which is why I could think your mother did this.
If you were getting shots, you were likely going through GnRH analogue therapy. GnRH refers to gonadotropin releasing hormone. Gonadotropins are a hormone that affect the gonads (sex organs), gametes (sex cells), and sex horomones. Essentially, these delay development in puberty, but how effective they are and how much they work varies from person to person.
For you, I cannot say if this was medically necessary or not. It depends on the body.
Precocious puberty in itself is often a symptom of or comorbid (commonly occurring with) another condition, however pinpointing its cause is often difficult to impossible. So, basically, yes, it can be because of an intersex variation. It can be caused by or connected to thyroid, pituitary, adrenal glands, and/or ovarian issues/problems/variations, which commonly are connected to intersex conditions.
It can also be caused by brain tumors or brain injury, although I doubt that that is the case since you are still alive and fine today and didn't mention having sustained any brain injuries.
McCune–Albright syndrome is a condition that can cause precocious puberty. It is a genetic disorder that effects the bones, endocrine system, and skin. It is a mosaic condition, which means that there is a presence of more than one genetic line for a given genotype (like a given little genetic message, usually organisms are expected to only have one genotype). It is often characterized by fibrous dysplasia (disorder where bone/marrow has fibrous tissue which leads to it being weak and being susceptible to expansion), endocrine diseases, hyperpigmentation of the skin, hyperthyroidism (excessive thyroid hormones), hypophosphatemia (low phosphate levels in the blood), excess growth hormones, and very rarely Cushing's syndrome (a condition characterized by prolonged exposure to cortisol and glucocotoroid.)
Besides that and certain kinds of tumors/brain lesions, hypothyroidism is the only known cause of true precocious puberty as far as I know.
This is the only thing that could be an intersex variation for an individual that I can think of that has significantly precocious puberty as a symptom. However, I'm sure there are other intersex variations with precocious puberty as symptoms that I'm not thinking of. Many intersex variations have early or late puberty as symptoms.
Precocious puberty can also be caused by langerhans cell histiocytosis and tuber cinereum hamartoma, neither of which are related to intersex conditions as far as I know. (Other than the fact that tumors can affect development and hormonal levels.)
Now, besides all that, I'd just like to say that if you feel if your life experiences are intersex, then you are completely allowed to label as such or assert that you are intersex. Intersex is a term open to anyone who is born with or naturally develops abnormalities in their primary or secondary sex characteristics that fall outside of the understood commonly propagated binary sex model used for humans. Personally, I consider hirsutism as an inherently intersex variation all on its own. Some people believe you need a specific diagnosis to be intersex, but I am of the opinion that, if you feel it fits your life experience, then you are welcome to use it. You never need a specific diagnosis for an intersex variation to be intersex. I also think that precocious puberty can be inherently intersex if an individual knows that it gives them an intersex experience.
I hope that I managed to answer your questions and concerns well enough. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Cheers!
EDIT: Early puberty (not necessarily precocious puberty, but early puberty in general) is often associated with NCAH and LOCAH, which could make sense for you considering you have hirsutism. I talk about NCAH/LOCAH here. Thank you to @chaoticmellows for reminding me! I knew I was forgetting something major. In all actuality, NCAH/LOCAH is the most likely candidate if you did have a specific intersex variation, although you know your body best!
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humanransome-note · 7 months
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Found out the pediatric endo who was willing to let me shit myself and asked for a hand X-ray with no explanation has a 2.8 on google reviews and is unfortunately still working
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arctic-hands · 11 months
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Was trying to watch the news about the debt ceiling agreement but CBSN is focusing on an interview with Nancy Mace who said she doesn't support "permanent" gender supporting care like giving pre-pubescent children puberty blockers and madam, what the fuck do you think puberty blockers are for??
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ohchr-news · 8 months
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What Is Precocious Puberty & How Can Hormones Help?
Puberty that happens too early is called “precocious puberty”. This means a child's physical signs of sexual maturity develop too soon, sometimes as early as 8-9 years old. This includes breast growth, pubic hair, and voice changes. These are known as secondary sexual characteristics. Sometimes, this is the result of CAH (Congenital Adrenal hyperplasia) a common form of Intersex. Precocious puberty happens before age 8 in girls, and before age 9 in boys. Most children with the disorder grow fast at first. But they also stop growing before reaching their full genetic height potential.
Gonadotropin-stimulating hormone (GnRH) is made by the hypothalamus in the brain. It causes the pituitary gland to release gonadotropins. These then cause sex hormones to be made by the ovaries in girls, or the testes in boys. The GnRH blood test may show the type of precocious puberty. Luteinizing hormone (LH), Follicle stimulation hormone (FSH), A form of estrogen called estradiol, Testosterone, Thyroid hormones.
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isaacsapphire · 2 years
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you know that when people say "no hormones for children" they are talking about externally introduced hormones, you're just pretending not to in an attempt to make them look dumb. ideally of course this would also include the various hormone-like chemical byproducts infesting our environment (one of the primary causes to the continually lowering age of menarche), but that ship has fucking sailed, hasn't it?
My point is that that ship has fucking sailed, and also by hollering "no hormones for children" while opposing puberty blockers they look as stupid and ignorant as gun grabbers who rail about assault weapons. Nobody discussing scary scary hormones and the 10 year olds who are unhappy with their assigned gender that they're so sure will desist or why are so many Kids These Days trans? seems willing to accept that the same chemicals turning the frogs gay might also be dropping the age of menarche, or aware that precocious puberty is a thing that exists.
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Like, if you want to Retvrn to Tradition, have you considered this tradition?
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joseywritesng · 2 years
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Is the declining age of puberty adding to the mental health crisis in teens?
Is the declining age of puberty adding to the mental health crisis in teens?
Family therapist David Kalergis particularly remembers an 8-year-old girl. She plopped down on the soft chair in his office in Mount Pleasant, SC, not knowing what to say. Her parents had already told Kalergis that the girl smelled different, sharp in recent months. By lunchtime she needed a bath. Her parents felt “over their heads” because they didn’t expect their little girl to need deodorant…
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The youngest mother in recorded history was Lina Medina, a Peruvian girl who became pregnant at 4-years-old and gave birth at five.
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Though she had clearly been raped in late 1938, the identity of her rapist and the circumstances surrounding the incident remain a mystery to this day. Lina's pregnancy at such a young age was possible due to precocious puberty, the medical term for the development of puberty at an unusually early age. Her menstrual period started when she was just 2 1/2-years-old.
Her father was arrested under suspicion but was later released due to lack of evidence.
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Lina is still alive today and has refused numerous requests for interviews, the latest of which was from Reuters in 2002. She married in 1972 and had a second son sometime after.
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notthemayor · 11 months
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Doctors will give adults a medicine after all other treatments have been tried and strictly forbid them from taking it for over 6 months bc it will make their bones disintegrate, then other doctors will put children on this same medication for years without trying other interventions first and say it's fine and beneficial. Make it make sense
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britcision · 3 months
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Hey by the way who wants to go tell those Alberta politicians that banning giving puberty blockers to kids specifically stops them from being used for all their many other uses, like:
Cancer treatment (especially breast and prostate cancer)
Endometriosis
Polycistic ovaries
Precocious puberty, which can happen in kids as young as 6
They’ve been in use since the 1980s and are some of the safest medications out there, so long as they’re taken properly and are actually specifically super important for kids to be able to take, although they’re still useful for adults
But ooooh the scary media will trans your kid’s gender, let’s not do any actual research on how incredibly safe and common these drugs aaaare
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humanransome-note · 1 year
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There’s a lot of resentment I have toward my mother that has nowhere to go because it’s not her fault that my precocious puberty wasn’t treated. Not really. My pediatrician mentioned it but his tone was so “meh…” that she didn’t think about it. And he never prescribed anything or sent me to a specialist
I have severe body dysmorphia, there are times where looking at myself makes me almost physically ill.
my bones have the wear and tear of someone about ten years older, and there’s a strong likelihood that I’ll be pre, if not properly arthritic by the time I’m 35.
I have a bunch of medical related psych trauma from being fat my whole life, and while there no way to prove that had I been treated I’d have had an easier time with weight management, the fact of the matter is my body was sending the signals necessary for puberty without the appropriate follow through.( Ie my hunger hormones increased with the expectations of growth spurts that never came.)
I was 4’ 8” in kindergarten (4yo) I was regularly mistaken for a middle schooler before I could read, write, or spell. My self image was forming and it was being compared to fully adult women because I sized out of the kids section before I was 7.
My body is breaking down, has broken down, and there is damage I can do nothing about because by the time I learned how to prevent it or manage it it had already been done.
I love my mom, I do, but I want someone to pay for this because I can’t do anything about it now so all the energy i’d usually put into fixing the problem is just spiraling
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gillianthecat · 11 months
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Apparently I'm in a polling sort of mood today.
(Sorry there's no option for "see results," I'll update the notes with the percentages every so often.)
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isaacsapphire · 2 years
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Are you really insisting that rather than figure out why so many children are being put into the trans pipeline and whether there are other answers, we just throw up our hands, say "oh well," and put them all on blockers and hormones and sterilize them? What the fuck is _wrong_ with you?
Bro, I'm going to assume you are a bro here. First, it's possible I'm misunderstanding, but blockers don't automatically cause sterility that I'm aware of.
Second, the age of menarche has been dropping for living memory, so girls now "become women" physically at the ripe old age of 9 routinely when that would have been medically concerning in her mother's youth. Early puberty doesn't seem to have as many negative social consequences for boys and the importance of physical size and strength in male status competition means early blooming boys get benefits where girls become sexual targets.
Third, I actually do have some concerns about the "trans pipeline" because it seems pretty inevitable that at least a few kids are being brainfucked into being trans by a parent purely for the parent's interests and will grow up to report that the medical complex is complicit in their abuse.
Buuut, 4th, bro, what "pipeline"? WTF are you talking about? Medical science got capable of doing what some people have wished could be done since roughly ancient Rome if not further back. Shockingly, people who want to use that technology to change their bodies are thicker on the ground now or so it seems, but this is actually because they have technology to enable it.
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