#redromes

[grusik]

Pink Panther Street Art Garage door art by Red Romes & Sydney West by StockCarPete

#uk #london #art #streetart #penge #londonstreetart #pinkpanter #redromes #sydneywest flickr

[xagave]

I see ur notes trust me I didn't forget ashen it's one of the reasons I love my ot3 so much :0 I think it's a really unappreciated quad that people would have a lot of fun with if they played with it but I was trying to pick a fave and I've been torn between black and pale for a while 😩

#p #i dont hate redrom either but the way fandom tends to do it is kinda boring im SORRY i want that PITY i dont want Human Romance #hot and spicy takes today #have you all considered pale to black flipping. delicious. get some ash on ur diamond when things get a little heated too :) #the POSSIBILITIES

[quadrantbot]

TO THE VERY BASICS IN QUADRANTS (COMPLETELY CANON IN HOMESTUCK)

Blackrom

PITCH RRLATIONSHIPS ARE BASED ON MUTUAL HATRED

THEY'RE ALSO BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT

PITCH ROMANCE TAKES THE ADMIRATION FOR THEIR GOOD TRAITS AND THE HATRED FOR THEIR BAD TRAITS AND PUSHES YOU TWO(or more) INTO BETTERING YOURSELVES AND EACH OTHER

Palerom

The initial creation of the pale quadrant WAS intrntuonally made for lowbloods to pacify highbloods, however I believe that as a general society it expands more than that even with our canon examples

Moirails have a mutual caring for each other and much like REDROM, a mutual pity. Redrom tends to be a lot less active in helping with those they pity, moreso just pitying each other rather than the moirails where they pity each other and Activelt try to help each other

Moirails are not platonic I will whack your head right off if you say they are JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE A NON CONCUPISCIENT QUADRANT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT ROMANCe ok sorry

Redrom

As I mentioned with palerom redrom is basically the concupiscent and less actively involved pitying quadrant. They tend to act more similarly to a regular human romance but it is EXPLICITLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE HUMAN LOVE AND TROLL PITY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS

Redrom partners tend to have the more basic romance things, but they are also often capable of wallowing in that pity together rather than doing anything about it?

Ashenrom

ASHENROM IS ROMANTIC BETWEEN ALL PARTIES. WELL, MAYBE NOT THE TWO BEING HELPED IN THIS WAY, BUT THE PERSON DOING THE HELPING HAS ROMANTIC FEELINGS FOR BOTH OF THEM. ASHEN FEELINGS.

The difference between ashen and pale tends to be that ashen wants to calm a conflict between two trolls and palerom tends to focus on one individuals feelings over everyone elses

Ashenrom is usually used to prevent pitch infidelity AND is also sometimes used within pitch relationships to prevent it from becoming unhealthy

(Since this description was helpful in one server. Haha!)

#homestuck #homestuck quadrants #homestuck shipping #hs quadrants #hs shipping #palerom #moiraillegiance #moirails #info #Redrom #matesprits #Matesprit #kismesis #kismessitude #blackrom #Ashenrom #auspisticism #auspisce

[legallypumpkinn]

Hopefully not too hot of a take, but I am so salty that postcanon “canonized” John/June x Roxy… esp bc bc it replaced TWO amazing ships and made me MAD. Sure there were like minor ‘hints’ or wtatevs in late late late a6 but I do not care.

Like idk but spider8reath was one of the first genuinely impactful things in the comic for me, like it actually made me FEEL some th ing which is RARE for FICTION to do that to me!!!! But then I saw Vriska and John/June being silly little geeses together…. (also they r t4t ummm I said so)

And then ALSO CALIROXY?? HELLO I THOUGHT THIS WAS CANON WGAT DID I MISUNDERSTAND they r literally in love idgaf. Fuck you they r in love and I said so so it’s canon (I have no real impact on what is considered ‘canon’ but i remember reading some of their dialogue and bc of the way Homestuck is structured I was like “wow I can’t wait to go back in time to see when they falled in love and started datign :3” and then it NEVER HAPPENED??;!;!!!!4;$&)

#ANGERY bc I jeep seeing ppl IGNORING the LOVE and AMAZING REDROMS forming right in front of ohr eyes!!!! #my text #johnvris #junevris #caliroxy #calliope x roxy #john x vriska #vriska x john #Roxy Lalonde #John Egbert #June Egbert #Calliope #Vriska Serket #spider8reath

[gods-greatest-lobotomite]

CANON.

#homestuck #roxygen #roxy #roxy lalonde #john #john egbert #egbert #redrom #god tier #marriage #lalonde #cute #art #this was made by me and if you steal it i will annihilate you with my eye beams...

[m0rb1dspade]

why the fuck is it so cold

#homestuck #mordri limone #seadweller #fantrolls #original characters #ocs #verloz qoxion #jade blood #violet blood #redrom #flushed romance #homestuck ocs

[nintendont2502]

My piece for the Homestuck Art Exchange for @speedyangel >:) Get Gamtav'ed

@homestuck-gift-giving

#ive. never drawn tavros before #only drawn unhinged gamz #never really drawn ship art or two characters interacting but uh. fuck it we ball #gamtav #gamzee makara #tavros nitram #milo scribbles #me.txt #also didnt know if there was a specific quadrant so i just went w redrom! hoping thats right lmao #could be seen as pale. if u squint a lil

[transsexual-stuck]

but soft! what light mew meow-nder window breaks? (aka yes romeo and juliet could have been pale in my mind don't WORRY about it)

please use claw/clawself for karkat and he/him or it/its for nepeta on this post, they are fem-presenting and transmasc respectively!

#like i know it is supposed to be redrom but that's because shakespeare didn't understand troll romance #also i mean they're like roleplaying or something. they're pale . it's true okay don't question it #pale karnep #karnep #transmasc nepeta #fem presentating karkat #fem karkat #karkat vantas #hs karkat #homestuck karkat #nepeta leijon #homestuck nepeta #hs nepeta #homestuck #homestuck fanart

[varibean]

modern varigo au where one day varian and him are working on a project in his garage or in the college chem lab. 

varian is humming something kind of absentmindedly and then starts muttering the words and hugo finishes them

and they go about their business until a few minutes later and suddenly it hits them that varian wasn’t singing the actual words. he was singing the broadway karkat version of them. 

and hugo finished the same version and suddenly they know much more about each other than they ever had before 

#varigo #varian #vat7k #varian and hugo @ each other: I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE #varian: -but redrom interest A is flushing for her kismesis #hugo: who's auspicious morail is the main protagonist-WAIT.

[acidicpenumbra]

homestuck quadrants!! because i have autism and i like reading too much into them. 

pls note this is my personal reading of them and while i am extremely confident in my definitions the way theyre defined leaves some of it up for interpretation. im welcome to hearing other interpretations!! also i can clarify if needed :3

i think its important to start off with something very very very important

all quadrants are ROMANTIC, including both the pale quadrant and the ashen quadrant. it is troll romance! please don't ship siblings as moirails i promise it is not platonic thank you!!

all quadrants are based on a mutual care and respect. there is affection! there is admiration! basically, despite not using the word love, ALL quadrants are based on that deep caring and affection that love usually would 

hussie didn't make great examples for most of these but meowrails is a good moirail example so hey thats a win

matesprits! pity/flushed/red romance

in canon it's described as the closest thing to human romance, but it is more complicated than that because instead of a relationship based on love like human romance is, it's based on PITY. 

most regularly you do the same stuff as you would in a human relationship, and theyre functionally VERY similar, the main factor is pity instead of love!! as my friend hal said, "what a pathetic man... i need to take care of you"

moirails! pale romance

in canon it's described as platonic soulmates, but also throw that out the window because it is troll Romance. theyre there to pacify and sort of like ground and balance each other. it's also said in canon that it has sort of a fate thing and that it just Happens. So. take that as you will

in a moiraillegiance you deeply care for your moirail! much like you do for whatever other quadrants but you sort of do more of a protecting / improving role there too. pale and black quadrants have a lot of overlap!! blackrom is just hate pushing for improvement whereas palerom is affection and concern pushing for improvement. 

kismesissitude! hate/black romance

in the most basic way i can describe it, blackrom is having a mutual respect for someones positive traits but having a greater hatred for their negative ones. 

it's like "if you didnt have all these bad traits, you'd be great." and you push each other to get better and fix those worse things about yourself out of a deep caring for them!! the bad traits are seen as ways you can improve and you put effort into bettering each other and yourselves because you see the good they can be. my quote this time "wow you're a pathetic man. get better about it this is pathetic."

auspisticism / ashen romance

ashenrom is a more interesting quadrant because even in canon it's not explored very much?? there are some mentions but it isn't expanded on. they exist mostly to keep kismesissitudes healthy OR to prevent any pitch infidelity. 

it is ALSO romantic (TROLL ROMANCE.) and comes from a place of caring from the parties involved. theres mediating! support! they make sure everything is ok between trolls and mostly are there to keep things from getting COMPLETELY out of hand. hal quote again. "you are both so pathetic. stop."

basically trolls seek out the most miserable whelps for their quadrants usually. just a little bit. half joking

#homestuck #homestuck quadrants #kismesis #kismesissitude #moirail #moiraillegiance #redrom #blackrom #palerom #ashenrom #how do i TAGGGGG I AM AGONY meows #haiiiiiiiii best friends #if i have to fix anything i will but also autism?! #matesprit #matesprits #matespritship #auspisticism #quadrant rambles #caliborn rambles

[incorrect-hs-quotes]

Jade: *walking around with a “Free Bugs” tshirt and cargo pants with a lot of very full pockets that are visibly writhing*

#homestuck #incorrect homestuck quotes #jade harley #mod terezi #i'm debating in my head if sollux would find that appealing or appalling #either way it's making him Feel Things #quick someone draw me some jadesol #blackrom or redrom either works

[ghoulish-tadpole]

this one is my ALL time favourite.

#in which the main protagonist sits idly till one day he falls head over heels for redrom interest a but redrom interest a is flushing for #jadeharley #harley #jade harley #witch of space #homestuck #homestuck art #homestuck jade

[landoffreaksandfrogs]

i remember back in the old fandom days ppl would put whos in their "quadrants" on their blogs and everytime i saw someone actually having a kismesis i would shrivel up bc Humans Should Not Have Those. dont get into a toxic relationship built around hate bc funny webcomic.

#i REALLY LIKE BLACKROM IN *THEORY* I LOVE DISCUSSING IT AND DISSECTING IT AS A FORM OF *DISTINCTLY ALIEN ROMANCE* #BUT NO ONE SHOULD BASE THEIR RELATIONSHIPS AROUND TROLL QUADRANTS..... #i want to examine what a good blackrom would be like but as it stands #most of the blackroms in homestuck are done by the most mentally ill teenagers ever #their REDROMS are fucking suffering #god. let me think. i remember at the end of act 6 i genuinely enjoyed john and terezis flirting #john in general. AS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. seemed like hed be able to grasp the concept of a blackrom pretty well #which probably also ties into partially into his role as a breath player an aspect that focuses on adaptability and freedom #what was i talking abt oh yeah #um. if anyone suggests you and them should have a kismesisitude. run

[zapsoda]

i jest but the invader zim fandoms weird ass method of distinguishing platonic and romantic ships is actually based as fuck and every fandom should have it

#especially homestuck #so pale shippers dont have to see redrom and red shippers dont have to see pale bullshit in the same tag

[nekropsii]

I saw that you made Mituna and Latula moirals rather than matespirtes in your au. What are your thoughts and reasons about that decision for your story? Just curious!

Considering both of their characters, it seemed like it would be easier and more intriguing to explore their relationship through the lens of Moirallegiance rather than Matespritship. Their canonical Red Romance has very much so been explored and loved for years now, and we wanted something fresh but still familiar. Overall, it opened some new doors for exploration of both of their characters that we thought would liven up the Patron dynamics, and make them distinct from that of canon.

For Sovereignstuck, Moirallegiance is all about balancing each other, and staying in your best health. It's keeping each other in check, making sure your partner stays on the right path, and doesn't go down any dark roads. It's a form of extreme platonic love. It's a QPR with a specific function, though it manifests differently for everyone. Not all are healthy, and not all of them last, but all aim to fulfill the same basic purpose. Latula and Mituna both need each other, and separating them is a bad idea across most timelines. This is undeniable. We felt that with the way we executed their characters, it would be more apt for them to take on that balancing. They both have a lot of things wrong with their brains, and for the longest time they felt like they were the only ones who really understood each other. And, for the longest time, they were right.

The love between them isn't lesser just because they're Pale. It's still there, at the same levels. It's still intense. It's just in a different form.

#plus we just really wanted to explore fresh new red avenues for them #locking them into a redrom for the course of the story restricted the possibility of some *incredibly interesting dynamics* #but the idea of having them be red and then *break up* just felt cruel and... really uncharacteristic? #theyre both very devoted people. especially to each other. i cant see that happening unless something extremely EXTREMELY serious happened #and even then.......... #sovereignstuck #homestuck #alpha trolls #the patrons #sov!mituna captor #sov!latula pyrope #grindrailz.ship #sov!mituna.pdf #sov!latula.pdf #nekro.pdf #nekro.sms

[lesboygamzee]

my interpretation of my favourite ships ( arasol n gamtav ) both have hugely platonic + queerplatonic aspects to them this is a win for cool people i think . they do NOT care about common ideas of typical romantic relationships . W

#arasol is ' vaguely redrom ' but in a queerplatonic way . gamtav flips through a lot romance - wise ( they are doing every quadrant wrong on #purpose ) but there is also a major platonic aspect to it . gamzee is aro so he gets genuinely tired sometimes and then they are just buds #and it affects literally nothing #did you guys know i am arospec . have i made that obvious yet #let the bard speak