A reminder that some of you guys only use LGBT activism to shit on religious people and do exactly no activism whatsoever if you can't use it to be anti-theist. Some of you will have no problems harassing and being racist and homophobic to queer people if they're religious.
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Atheistic Satanists who go SO FAR to separate themselves from (in a way that actively looks down on) theistic Satanists, especially ones who not only do that but also act like theistic Satanists are so rare or just don't exist at all are fucking weird. I promise you treating theistic Satanists worse will not ever make anti Satanist people like you more. It will not erase religious discrimination to stomp all over theistic Satanists. Theistic Satanists deserve to be treated well and have their religion understood and respected just as much as you do.
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People who pride themselves on their normalcy paradoxically also want to stand out and be viewed as unique individuals at the same time, while they dress, talk, act, and behave like everyone else, they want their normalcy to be revolutionary in part because they make a frequent habit of constantly contrasting themselves against everyone that doesn't fit into conventional boxes so often, that they really come to believe that degeneracy and freakishness is rampant and taking over when it's just not, and that they're the ones who are in the margins by being normal, which causes them to feel persecuted for their normalcy, even while remaining in the majority and meticulously adhering to mainstream social, gender, and behavioral conventions
Also, they view adhering to normalcy as a type of obedience to society's values and they view obedience itself as a direct measurement of how much moral worth they have as a person, and come to feel like they should get rewards or special privileges for behaving, acting, and presenting in the ways society tells them to, and are thus more likely to view themselves as better and more moral than people who defy these norms
Which, when this reward cycle is reinforced, makes them start to see anyone who acts outside these conventions as being disobedient, and therefore deserving of punishment and discipline...
....so now you can kind of see how people get to a point where they perceive queerness and oddness and strangeness in people and interpret it as unruly, disobedient, defiant behavior that must be "corrected" in some way, and how this view on discipline, obedience, and punishment has been twisted into fucked up apologia for horrible oppressive behavior
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Thats it im putting "religion" on the high shelf where you cant reach it until you learn the difference between the complex and diverse sociocultural phenomena that fall under the umbrella of "religion" and your personal experiences with Christianity and whatever US media has told you about Islam and Judaism
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Dipping into the atheist/ex-religious circles of Tumblr just to see a bunch of religious mockery and misinterpretation.
Gah!
Well, glad I took the time to craft a lengthy response, poured out all my grievances in it and left it at drafts.
Very relaxing.
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Hot take for queer christians or affirming christian allies, but focusing on picking apart mistranslations in the clobber verses as the means to address homophobia, transphobia, or queerphobia in the church community is literally not gonna take us anywhere further. Okay, now we've disproved that Lev 18:22 doesn't imply whatever the English translation means. Oh and Deut 22:5 applies to a certain context. And then what. Do we just acquiesce in the fact that, after providing a rebuttal to some points raised by exclusionists, we still gotta sit in this unwelcoming and often spiritually stifling environment that they created.
I think what's fundamentally imperative is understanding what the core tenets of the Christian religion stand for (aka the Great Commandment). The second commandment, "love your neighbor as yourself" already makes it clear that there's no room for prejudice and bigotry. Bring up the verses and stories where the laws change to empower women, sexual minorities and outsiders in social systems that initially deny their rights (the daughters of Zelophehad, Isaiah 56:3-6, Acts 10:9-16). Stories about people who were underdogs, or from such communities, praised, promoted, and occupying an important position in the narrative.
The Bible's a big book and any argument can be extracted out of it to befit one's agenda. With so much hateful and intolerant rhetoric being thrown around, it's way better to highlight the passages that reaffirm marginalized people are blessed and cherished and deserve a place in faith, ESPECIALLY for vulnerable queer folk within the religious community that are told they can't belong. That's all I'm saying.
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Wtf is up with people and hating others religions can't we all just get along 😒
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Did Mary, young Mary, terrified Mary, know that her love was the love of the Lord bestowed to humankind through her, a humble girl, too young to be a woman, when she looked for the first time at her newborn son?
How would she feel if she saw her love, her pure, powerful, tender maternal love, turnt into the most burning hatred toward your neighbour?
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Religious discourse on this site is truly wild, it’s all like
A: You say you’re religious, so how come you don’t do/believe/practise [thing that is specific to three weird fringe cults that are loud on American TV and literally isn’t a thing anywhere else]? I thought all religious people did/believed/practised that thing
B: Please, don’t be ignorant about other people’s beliefs! While Christians indeed all do/believe/practise [thing that is specific to three weird fringe cults that are loud on American TV and literally isn’t a thing anywhere else], some other religions, including mine, actually do not!
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So on Twitter, the Church of England said that the roots of the church go back to 3rd century England, and several thousand people are loudly telling the CofE that they're wrong because they think that Henry VIII created the Church. Except that Henry VIII didn't fucking create the CofE and their roots DO go back to 3rd century England. Twitter is so fucking stupid it invented mansplaining for atheists holy shit 😭
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hey fun fact NUNS SHOULDN’T BE FETISHIZED TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY ARE
the world has a bad habit of fetishizing modesty and the concept of virginity. that is gross. in the case of nuns, it is also disrespectful. the “sexy nun” costume is disgusting. let people be pious in peace.
leave my page if you think it’s okay to fetishize modesty ever
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Free will is one of those myths that very suspiciously functions way too well as a baseline justification for treating people like shit and not feeling bad about it because it turns actual human behavior, which is largely unconscious and automatic, into purposeful, meaningful, deliberate actions that become the sole basis for disciplining and punishing people who happen to upset us for any reason whatsoever
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I might’ve talked about this before; but one of the Bibles I have actually acknowledges that the Bible is about 2000 years ago, so a lot of things have changed since then that modern religion has to adjust on.
I was reading the alcohol section, and they say that wine 2000 years ago had WAAAAAAY less alcohol content than today, ALSO bringing up the water-to-wine scene. After a lot of musings, they came to the conclusion that alcohol itself isn’t a sin, but getting drunk is.
I’m not sure how to feel about that, considering I want to try getting drunk, but I also am very bleh about the idea of other people getting drunk; but it’s certainly interesting how some churches within the same denomination don’t take the sacred texts as seriously or literally as American conservatives politicians, it seems, would.
Humanity really is diverse!
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It honestly seems like you can make employ arguments about whiteness for very many things when it comes to the religion discourse. Anti-theist anarchists appear content to dismiss pagans (or "neopagans" as they may call them) as bored white people venerating the gods of pre-Christian European lands, without any sight of the irony in play that comes from attachment to their precious rationalist ideology which is, itself, invaribaly, borne of the white bourgeois Enlightenment.
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Can I just ask something that is bothering me? Why are you always making fun of us catholics? I mean I can't imagine someone making fun of Muslims for example and yet for us is somehow acceptable? It's already a bugger having to grow up in America and media making fun of us all the time because the country is Protestant but it seems like the whole world jumped on that bandwagon. Yet if someone said something about Protestants the world would burn, oh well.
you can't imagine people making fun of Muslims???? bestie might I remind you of The World post 9/11 🥴
however, just for you, fuck Protestants as well. as least catholicism has erotic Jesus art and painted church glass... American Protestants are some of the worlds most sexless fucks as portrayed in their media and culture who have no real concept of faith so they worship the concept of US Constitution and the president is their pope.
if you as an American Catholic feel oppressed over the mildest jokes about tradcaths being repressed and internalized homophobia on this blog (where the jokes are 'haha pierre wears a cross during sex'), I suggest reading the history of christianity and colonialism~ or what missionaries have done in Africa
however, if that is something that is hurtful to you I do suggest blocking/unfollowing. curate your own content and what you want to see
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