#septic theories

[musingsofmessa]

The timing of this ad, especially for the certain content I'm watching, makes me all the more uncomfortable.

Do I trust the WTCHR or do I fear it?

#jacksepticeye #jse anti #jacksepticegos #anti #jse egos #jacksepticeye community #jacksepticeye egos #jse community #antipocalypse #jse #wtchr #jse theories #jse fandom #jacksepticeye fandom #septic egos #ego theories #egos

[waywardnajsepticeye]

RIP C!Jack, you'll always be my pookie.....

#jacksepticeye #jse #jse egos #septic egos #c!jacksepticeye #c!jack #so that means my batshit theory that i have cooked for YEARS that jack woke up frok his coma and was being possessed by anti is BULLSHIT now #oh god

[bisthefairy]

Only real Hazy Maze Cave fans will understand

#Mario 64 #Super Mario #Super Mario Brothers #Princess Peach #Peach and Bowser's Poop Mixed #Hazy Maze Cave is a septic tank theory #I made this meme for my lovely partner Alayna #and she doesn't appreciate it :c #despite loving Peach and Bowser's Poop Mixed

[eldritch-biqch]

KJSE is a direct threat to IRIS (and other bits)

So rewatching KJSE I have some thoughts. These mostly hinge on assumptions about what we know, but it all has basis in what we’ve been shown so far:

1. “It’s in your ear Jack”

The IRIS Twitter account have been posting images of prototypes they’ve developed over their timeline. One of these is the ‘Computer’s Aid’, which is a small, bone-conducting implant that ‘improves arithmetic skills’. If this was developed early on (it seems that way from the images), then imagine what it could be today, this thing could be microscopic. (A side note: issues concerning the brain can cause changes in homeostasis, affecting things such as blood pressure which, when too high, can cause blood buildup in the eyes). Anyway, Jack and Hen both have these chips and Anti causes them to malfunction, hence bleeding eyes.

2. “I need your help!”

The surgery is held in an IRIS facility, or at least he was moved to one when he was ‘admitted to the ER’. Henrik knows that Anti is attacking Jack, and he knows that IRIS know about Anti (either studying him or they created him in the first place), and he knows they’re monitoring the surgery through some kind of camera (no one in their right mind would be in that room knowing it’s Anti). Henrik knows IRIS can give him help on how to save Jack, and he is literally begging for them to tell him what to do.

3. KJSE and Sentient

It’s a long running joke that when Seán had the wall full of foam padding that it was a padded cell, he even mentions it in the BTS segment he did on the end sequence. If IRIS is keeping Anti in a cell for monitoring/study/safety, then they’d have to keep a camera on him to make sure he’s not up to anything, giving the end sequence a hefty vibe of Sentient (remember the thumbnail had anti’s eyes?). He exclusively talks to an audience (you all), which is either us or the watchers at IRIS.

4. “I wonder what will happen to your favourite boy next time”

Firstly, Anti is talking directly to the camera, to us. Bear in mind that this was after Seán ran the community poll that decided Hen was the community’s favourite ego, so I’m assuming the ‘favourite boy’ here is Hen (it could also be Jack, but Hen is much more immediately obvious considering the context).

I imagine Hen is important to IRIS. Mans a genius. Saved peoples lives, dudes working on time travel, interdimensional shit, dudes a beast. He’s like IRIS’s prized possession. So why on Earth did IRIS let Anti possess him and kill Jack at the same time? Assuming that IRIS isn’t completely evil and sort of cares for their employees, the only reason I can think of why they’d let Anti get away with this is that they didn’t know it was him and they had reasonable proof that Anti was exactly where he was meant to be (aka, in his cell). He is talking to the camera, basically telling whoever is watching that they suck and they should have trusted Hen when he said it was Anti and that he needed help, rather than trusting what they see through a computer feed (risky business when anti is around anyway). He’s telling IRIS that they failed, and look what the consequences were for being so lax with what they were doing. He knows they’ll probably be able to bring Jack back one way or another (retrowave maybe, good ol’ IRIS easybake oven), so there was no real reason for him to kill Jack, no real gain other than getting close to Hen. KJSE is just Anti proving his point that IRIS cannot contain him. He managed to slip out, possess Jack, jump to possessing Henrik, successfully kill Jack, kidnap Henrik for 9 months, and slip back into his cell without anyone noticing he was gone. It’s too easy for him, he’s bored and wants a challenge, he wants IRIS to make it hard for him. He’s proving that it’s too easy. Anti isn’t playing around. He will kidnap Henrik again, and this time, it won’t be as pretty. It’s IRIS’s job to stop him, and to do that, they need to step up their game.

Edit to add a good old why. Why is Anti doing this? He wants to show IRIS how easily he could have taken away one of their main assets. They probably don’t think he’s as big a threat as he actually is, and being the narcissist he is, Anti wants them to be absolutely terrified of him, rather than treat him like some kind of curiosity. So he stole one of their best minds for 9 months, just to show them what it will be like if he decides to go in for the kill next time.

Another addition (slightly crack theory edition):

You may ask “how did anti do all of that to Henrik and Jack whilst he was very obviously sat in his cell? Surely someone would know if he was missing for the time it took him to possess Jack, the surgery and the 9 months Henrik was gone for?” My response, of course, is time travel. We’ve seen hints of it in the past (retrowave, ‘when am I?’, ‘oh dear that’s far too early’), as well as a major theme of the story being ‘time is broken’, and IRIS is most likely messing with the multiverse.

Basically I don’t think Anti would be so cocky with his little monologue if he wasn’t 100% sure it had gone perfectly. And the only way to know something will go 100% perfectly is to know that it’s already gone perfectly, and it’s just got to play out. There is no changing the timeline with time travel; whatever happens in the timeline has always happened and always will, Anti set up a predestined event. Anti snuck out, events of KJSE played out, Henrik was gone for 9 months, and as soon as it was over he skipped back in time to the moment he left. The antis we see possessing the boys, and the anti we see in the cell at the end are not from the exact same time. They’re the same Anti, just one is about a year older than the other.

(This could give so much cool setup for cryptic shit that Anti could say or do during the time Hen was away. He knows exactly what happened and he knows likely he’s our only source on it, since Hen will probably block it from his brain)

#jacksepticeye #septic egos #kill jacksepticeye #jacksepticeye egos #henrik von schneeplestein #antisepticeye #eldritch theories #IRIS

[katies3pticeye]

I was going through Jack’s “3 Scary Games” video, the one with the camera watching over him? I’m not sure if this is the same one everyone was talking about with Watchr watching over Chase.

However, as a loyal Jacksepticeye theorist and a 5-year fan of Game Theory, you learn to go frame by frame to check out all of the glitches. And this is what I found:

Is that a person? Am I looking too much into this? I could definitely be, but it’s only there for one frame. It vanishes directly after that. I wouldn’t take this as a confirmed person glitching in and out of the room, but it does make me question antimatter.

If this is Anti, he could be trying to break through and try to take a physical form, kind of like we see in Dark Silence. Or maybe Anti can turn into a physical entity, and that’s why he’s there for that split second. To say hi to us. The viewers. After all, we created him.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Also, thanks @isa-ghost for inspiring me to look deeper into Jack’s content- been awhile since I’ve theorized, but your posts inspired me ✨

(And don’t mind all of the tags, I don’t have a huge following on here, so I rely on them.)

#jacksepticeye #jacksepticeye theory #jacksepticeye egos #chase brody #jacksepticeye ego #marvin the magnificent #antisepticeye #dr schneeplestein #jj #septic egos #theory #pma #jacksepticeye pma #bro average #jackieboy man #jameson jackson #argentum inanis

[daisychainsposts]

I love the difference between how Mark and Séan drop ego lore lol

Mark drops lore and he’s like “ oh you don’t understand what happened? Here’s a three hour explanation live stream 😊”

Then there’s Séan and he just goes “oh you don’t understand what’s going on? Sucks to be you!”

#jacksepticeye egos #markiplier egos #jacksepticeye theory #jse egos #septic egos

[my-little-horrible-horses]

You ever think, “What if I gave my character the smug cat meme face?” and then you do it. Highly enjoyable, I very much recommend it.

#Septic #High Tide #make up the story in your head #my theory is tide interrupted septic during art and crafts therapy time #sketch

[septic-alex]

My theories, a list.

REGARDING IRIS:

What if IRIS used C!Jack as an experiment for their researches, making clones of him aka "ALTR's". One of the ALTR's DNA sequence severely backfired, AKA Anti.

Each egos DNA sequence was created using different traits and such, but IRIS fucked up Anti's sequence, corrupting that ALTR.

Each ego might be an ALTR in this case with an assigned number. The time thief being 5194, if that is one of our known egos or whatever creature.

So all the ego's could be a product of IRIS.

IRIS seems pretty damn keen on the whole imagination typa thing. They could be trying to make Anti even more powerful to see just how far imagination can take em. But they severely overstepped.

Anti has been gone for a long time, and when he has shown up the scenarios have been rather minor. What if it is because IRIS had him contained all this time, but now they messed up?

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"It turns out that characters with multiple pupils in their eyes are somewhat common in Irish literature (such characters sometimes appear in non-Irish works as well). However, the meaning of this varies between characters. In some instances, having multiple pupils is a sign that the character has an "evil eye."

Found this, pretty interesting regarding the IRIS logo.

And, another thing; An eye symbol can have different meanings.

They can represent a gateway to the soul, or omniscience and all seeing amongst other things.

I wonder how all seeing IRIS is?

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IRIS WTCHR cameras kinda feels like the "Observation duty" cameras. Flipping through them, looking for anomalies. Perhaps Anti is a type of anomaly created by IRIS. As you can see in in the video where there are security cameras on Jack, the door opens and somebody enters, but the person entering isn't visible on the camera. Perhaps IRIS fixed the "anomaly", not letting us see what is going on. Like they are keeping things away from us. Not wanting us to know what they created.

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REGARDING CHASE:

When Chase said in IRIS trailer "You guys knew and did nothing" he could either be referring to us as the viewers, or IRIS.

IRIS could have been observing Chase all this time, just watching.

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REGARDING JACK AND ANTI:

Seán acknowledges all other egos but he's pretty good at dodging Anti. Ego art week, birthday wishes, and the socks. Everytime Anti has been "thrown aside", something has happened. Usually text being Zalgofied. Anti does not appreciate being ignored since attention more or less fuels his powers.

#jacksepticeye #anti septiceye #chase brody #septic egos #ego theories #bellas theories #iris

[silvermaplealder]

I have a theory (head cannon?) that the only vampire that died in lost boys was Max and that the deaths we saw of the other vampires was a trick performed by David to protect his companions. I went perhaps a little too far in depth with this, but it has been bothering me for years that 4 very powerful vampires were killed within minutes of engaging with young teens. After reading the book, prequel script, and watching the movie too many times, I actually think David and his boys threw the fights to get out of the situation all together, and got the added benefit of Max being killed. Warning, spoilers from the book and prequel script because I'm considering both of them somewhat cannon:

To start, I have to bring up the fact that in the book, David's challenges against Michael to join the gang were considered harmless tricks. The stunts David pulls are things that he can get away with as a vampire that wouldn't actually kill them. Quote from the book: "This was another one of [David's] tricks... something that looked deadly but was nothing more than a simple stunt." David has full control over all the stunts and knows that no harm will come to any of them. Star also calls David a 'magician' with his tricks seeming to be real. And of course, as we saw in the movie David can alter the perception of what someone sees

With that in mind, we start with Marko's death. I don't even want to talk about how Edgar would have to be pretty freaking strong to shove a stake completely through the diaphragm of a humanoid being (including through the front and back layer of his jacket, spine, etc. but whatever). However, Marko's hands appear to be covering his heart. Edgar puts the stake under Marko's hands, below where his heart should be. (heart is marked with the x, yellow is where Edgar shoves the stake)

so while Marko certainly had a pretty bad day, with the lore mentioning it has to go through the heart, he should still be alive, albeit, in a lot of pain

It would be after the boys run from the cave that the vampires are obviously aware that hunters have found their nest. At this point, they would only have two choices: either try and kill the hunters, Michael, Sam, Star, and Laddie, whomst they have close affection with, OR they would have to fake their own deaths. Otherwise there's no way that they can continue living without the hunters and Emersens returning to kill them again.

David likes to plan shit

When they go to the Emersen house, they would have to leave Marko behind at the cave. Since everyone thinks he's dead, they wouldn't have to worry about him being hurt. Then the fights begin, and this is when it starts to get out of character. David is vibing up in the rafters, alone. Dwayne takes on Sam, alone. And Paul takes on the Frogs, alone. But in every other scene that they kill, they are always together. Their deaths are not simultaneous, meaning that they could have taken on everyone together.

Starting with Paul, I mean let's be real. He could have killed those two Frogs at any point in time when he was chasing them. He literally even shoves them. But the plan isn't to kill the Frogs, it's to fake his death. After getting splashed with the holy water, he has a solid few moments to actually do something. And instead, he stands and waits for the dog to tackle him. Seeing that these vampires can literally fly/float there is no reason for him to actually fall into the bathtub. David is still vibing in the rafters and did nothing to stop the dog or to rescue Paul meaning that this was a part of the plan. He would use his ability to create illusions to convince the Frogs Paul fell into the tub and burned alive. It would also be a perfect way to make his body 'disappear'. The explosion of the septic system is extremely unrealistic, and literally I cannot begin to explain how the heck that would work besides someone manually doing it behind the scenes...

Then to Dwayne. Dwayne literally could have easily killed Sam twenty times over. But again, if killing was the plan, it would have been done in seconds. We saw how violent these boys are with their victims. And speaking of Sam, how about that bow, eh? The force behind the bow to literally yeet Dwayne backwards would not have been something Sam could do. It would take a lot of poundage(45ibs I've been told at the bare minimum to kill a deer with a bow at 25 yards, but should really be 60ibs) to physically drive the arrow clear through his body and throw him back into the stereo. And remember, David is in the rafters watching. He's not jumping in to kill Sam. He didn't try and grab Dwayne out of the air. And yet, when on the boardwalk if someone trips his boys on a carousel David loses his mind. Another explosive death, leaving little to no body for clean up...

And then there's David. Now for David, he'd have to take one for the team. And as we learned in the prequel, it has to be wood to kill a vampire through the heart. David tried to kill Vlad with a metal pipe and Vlad literally just pulled himself off it. Spoiler alert, antlers are not made of wood. So Paul and Dwayne are 'dead' and can leave the scene. That means that David needs to finish up. He fights with Michael, Michael clearly being a baby vampire and David having so many years under his belt. But the plan must go on. David sees Michael's plan is to impale him on antlers, and he makes it happen. David plays dead meaning that the three of his companions are safe and he just needs to finish the part before he can return to them.

As a bonus, Max comes by. The man walks straight up to his 'son' (whether he regards David with parental love or as just a lackey is up to you, but regardless he doesn't seem phased at David being dead) and is like oh damn not my boys being stupid again. Max doesn't look sad or anything when he finds David playing dead.

Max being impaled on the fence post would have been his own fault and David wouldn't have been a part of it. And Max would have to die to release the half vampires from their vampirism meaning that he really did explode.

What happens after that is up to you to decide. Besides David appearing in the comics (which if I recall correctly Edgar says that half the stuff in the comics was fake anyway? My copies are in storage so I cannot cross reference that), the boys disappear and no longer have to deal with Max.

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

#lost boys #the lost boys #the lost boys 1987 #tlb 1987 #vampires #dwayne tlb #marko tlb #tlb david #tlb paul #tlb

[berenwrites]

Arms of Love - Stranger Things - Steddie - G

Rating: G| cw: none | tags: eddie lives, little bit of angst – lot of fluff, post season 4, pre-Vecna being finished off

Prompt: Love is the heartbeat I can feel when I hug him.

A/N: Written for @steddielovemonth day 8. It’s my wedding anniversary today, and my husband bought me two plushy otters cuddling, so of course I had to pick this prompt. Sorry, no beta today - no time, going out to dinner in an hour.

Also on AO3 | All My Other Stranger Things Fic

Arms of Love: Whatever You Need

Steve woke up with a start, breathing hard as the tendrils of the nightmare curled around his brain. The golden sunlight coming through the window helped him push it away as he lay there just breathing for a little while.

It was nearly July and apparently his unconscious mind was determined to celebrate the anniversary of Starcourt, even though he was studiously ignoring it when awake. He hadn’t been sleeping well, so he’d come up to his room to take a nap in the middle of the afternoon. He’d hope the timing would help. It seemed it hadn’t.

The dream hadn’t been Starcourt exactly, but a mishmash of that and their latest encounter with the Upside Down. His mind’s eye was full of Robin and Eddie, both bloody and dead, with the background of the mindflayer and the Russian bunker. It chilled him to the bone.

Robin was at Vicky’s on their third official date, so he could not go and find her to banish the horrors in his brain, but Eddie, lately exonerated, graduated (Steve was not asking how Owens had managed that), but still staying with Steve until Hawkins caught up, was downstairs. The town had decided to hunt him in no time, but it was taking longer for some of the worst culprits to admit their mistakes.

Eddie had been staying with Steve since they’d found him half-dead, spat out by one of the fissures. No one could explain how he was alive, but the latest theory was bat venom and luck. Given how fast Steve’s own injuries had healed and hadn’t gone septic either, Owens had a whole new line of research involving what Dustin and the other kids had christened demobats. Steve didn’t want to know about that either unless he really had to.

All he knew was that something had given them back Eddie, and while getting to know the outspoken metalhead properly as Eddie recovered, Steve had fallen hard. Luckily for him, Eddie had smiled at him, dimples and all, when he had finally confessed, and kissed him until he couldn’t breathe.

Climbing off the bed, Steve headed downstairs.

Eddie was facing away from him, standing, and leaning over the grand dining room table at the end of the living room. There were D&D manuals and bits of paper everywhere as Eddie prepared a celebratory campaign as his farewell to Hellfire.

Without pausing, Steve walked up behind his boyfriend, wrapped his arms around Eddie’s waist, and plastered himself over Eddie’s back, the side of his head pressing against the soft material of Eddie’s Metallica t-shirt.

“Hey, Sweetheart,” Eddie said, straightening up a little, but not trying to escape his hold, “everything okay?”

“Need to hear your heart,” Steve admitted, listening to the regular thump below his ear.

“Nightmare?” Eddie asked quietly.

“Uh-huh,” he replied, letting the rhythm settle into him and calm his own heartbeat.

They both had more than their fair share of trauma to deal with and Eddie didn’t question him, just standing there and letting him do what he needed to do.

“I love you,” he said eventually.

“Love you too, Sweetheart,” Eddie told him, rubbing one of his arms.

“Sorry for…” he started to say.

“Na-ah,” Eddie interrupted before he could get anymore words out, turning in his embrace. “No apologies necessary. Feeling better.”

Steve closed his mouth and just nodded. When Robin came over to tell them all about her date, she was going to get hugged within an inch of her life too, but for now he was okay.

“Good,” Eddie said, smiling at him with those killer dimples he was helpless against, “then I want to know what you think of this hideous trap I just thought up. I need your paladin brain.”

“I still don’t get why you call me that,” he complained with absolutely zero heat.

“That’s just what a paladin would say, Sweetheart,” Eddie told him, kissing him on the nose. “Now, come look.”

Steve’s chest swelled with love. He had no idea what he had done to get so lucky.

All My Other Stranger Things Fic

#stranger things #stranger things fanfic #fanfiction #steddie #steve harrington #steve x eddie #eddie munson #eddie lives #post season 4 #steddielovemonth #eddie x steve #steddie fic #steddie fluff #steddie ficlet

[musingsofmessa]

He's getting closer and closer...

Made by @firebuggey on Twitter.

#jacksepticeye #jse anti #jse egos #jacksepticegos #anti #jacksepticeye community #jse community #jacksepticeye egos #jse #antipocalypse #ego theories #egos #septic egos #septiceye egos #anti theory #anti hype #antisepticeye #antisepticeye audio #antisepticeye+imagines #antisepticeye edit #antisepticeye art #antisepticeye? #jse theories #jse fandom #iris theory #iris #jse iris #jacksepticeye iris #i.r.i.s #watch out iris logo

[waywardnajsepticeye]

There’s eight spaces....there’s six egos.....but there’s eight spaces.

My speculation/theory on who the other two could be? Jack and us (the community).

#sorry about the shitty screenshot y'all #jacksepticeye #jse #jse egos #septic egos #chase brody #jse iris #irisitwt #jacksepticeye egos #jacksepticeye theories #jse theories #jse community #jse fandom

[theboombutton]

Spoilers Ahead

OK let's talk about the lore implications of The Magnus Protocol episode 4's statement.

Timeframe

The Mannheim School was founded in 1741-1742; and the Royal Court of the Palatinate left Mannheim in 1778. This gives us a roughly 35-year timeframe within which which our violinist could have made his initial carriage journey to Germany - barring timeline differences.

This absolutely destroys my theory that the Fears arrived here from the TMA universe, found a universe without Fear, and broke through in East Germany during the Cold War. This episode firmly establishes that there were Fears in the Protocolverse in the late 18th century, and that they were well-established at the time - established enough to have a guy giving out cursed artifacts in the woods of Baden.

Were they the Archiverse Fears, that just happened to arrive earlier than I thought? Were they Protocolverse Fears? Were they Fears from yet another universe, escaped from their own Fearpocalypse?

The Fears

So this is a really fascinating statement because it seems to marry our old friend TMA Slaughter Classic, with whatever the fuck Ink5oul was doing in TMAGP episode 2, with just a mention of the Archivist-associated power to elicit an unintended confession.

The Slaughter connection I'm sure I won't have to argue - it's straight out of TMA. In fact, it's so straight-out-of-TMA that to me it suggests that this is almost certainly the Archiverse's The Slaughter. If we were dealing with an artifact of a different universe's Fear of violence, I wouldn't expect it to be so connected to music. There's nothing about music that inherently connects it to horrific violence, and yet Bardwell jumps out of a carriage and dashes his skull on the rocks because of what seems an awful lot like the Piper's Song. Violin Audrey Two goes full Grifter's Bone when it's unable to get blood.

The interesting part though is that these incidents are the exception to the rule of the violin's favor. At first it seems happy to make small, flesh wound mutilations of its player, which doesn't sound like the Slaughter at all. Yes, he moves on to serial killing, but it's a very methodical, planned kind of violence - not at all what I'd expect from the Archiverse Slaughter. And the theme of an artist mutilating themselves in service of their art seems very similar to Daria in Protocol episode 2.

Of course, the art connection might just be a coincidence. There is a disproportionate amount of art about art and artists, just because it's high on the list of things artists tend to think about. It's the same reason there's not a whole lot of art about septic tank maintenance*.

I doubt it, though.

Here's my working theory: I think there are at least two universes' Fears at work here, and there wasn't enough room in the Fear-Space for two full sets of entities to represent and feed on essentially the same fears. So they got smooshed together.

The Archiverse Slaughter got smooshed with a close equivalent - a fear that included Archiverse-style violence, yes, but also included a significant element of self-harm, and was culturally wrapped up with artistic performance in the same way that the Archiverse Slaughter was wrapped up with the sound, but not always the performance, of music. The Smooshed Slaughter teeters between its aspects, showing one face or the other depending upon the situation.

OK but what was with the Archivist powers?

idk tbh. I can think of two theories, neither of which I find particularly compelling:

The guy in the woods wasn't actually an avatar. Instead, he was a Salesa type, a distributor of supernatural trinkets. He had some kind of artifact of the Eye on him that gave him archivist compulsion powers.

All of the Archiverse Entities were changed by their time under the rule of the Eye, so being strongly-enough touched by an Archiverse Fear gives you mild Eye Powers for free.

Augustus

Yes I know everyone thinks this is Jonah, and I admit there is a good chance it is Jonah. But I don't like it, and I hold out hope that it isn't.

Personally, I like the idea that the Fears were specifically attached to the voices that told the stories in TMA, in which case Jonah wouldn't have been dragged along; but, if it was based purely on the physical presence of the people in the top room of the Panopticon, then yes, Jonah could have been brought along. To our knowledge nobody ever went after Jonah's body down in the labyrinth, so his eyes would presumably have been left alive in Elias's head for like, the whole episode.

I still hold out hope that Augustus is an Archivist-equivalent from another universe that also went Fearpocalypse and also released its Fears to the multiverse. While I'm pretty certain we're dealing with two sets of Fears here, possibly combined into one set of Smooshed Fears, I'm not at all certain that the non-Archiverse Fears are originally from the Protocolverse.

Conclusion

It's 3 AM and I have to go to bed. I think I've properly scheduled this to post an hour after the episode drops; if I'm wrong about the episode timing and accidentally spoil someone, I'm very sorry.

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* yes I know there's septic tank dive fetish photos, I said "not a whole lot" not "none whatsoever."

#tmagp spoilers #tmagp 04 #tmagp s1e04 #the magnus protocol #the magnus protocol spoilers #tma spoilers #the magnus archives spoilers #tmagp meta #tmagp theory #tmagp speculation

[eldritch-biqch]

Say Goodbye is Anti’s Demonstration of Power, c!Jack is IRIS’s equivalent of a Class D, and How IRIS Pissed off Anti (revival technology)

It’s a long title, but I think some people might enjoy these short theories all about Say Goodbye.

I’d recommend reading my theory on Kill Jacksepticeye and how it’s all about Anti threatening IRIS, this will kind of be in the same vein, and definitely follows the rules of ‘take this with a pinch of salt, it hinges on a lot of assumptions’. Also, as always, I’m open to being corrected on what we do and don’t know! Please just be polite about it :)

1. SG is just Anti establishing himself as a Professional Menace(TM)

In Say Goodbye, there is no obvious reason for Anti to kill Jack. Of course, there could always be backstory beef between them, but apart from Anti wanting a vessel (in which case he could kill anyone and take their body), there isn’t really much basis for Anti having it out specifically for Jack.

If Anti and Jack were put together for the express purpose of IRIS seeing what he’d do, then we can narrow it down to a couple of reasons:

Anti was bored and wanted to shake things up

Anti does have something against Jack, in which case it’s antis lucky day (but why did he wait the entire month before going in for the kill?)

Rather than having something against Jack, Anti wanted to send a message to IRIS. “Hey, look at this. I’m literally playing with you. I can murder this guy right now in a horrible way if I want to. Don’t believe me? Just watch!”

We’re going with the third option here. Anti knows that IRIS is watching their interactions, and he plays along, making them believe that he’s just annoying and makes people glitch out a bit, luring the watchers into a false sense of security with him. As soon as Say Goodbye comes along, they’re confident enough that Anti is harmless to give Jack some knives. They’re trusting Anti around weapons. Anti sees his chance, and not only demonstrates his power of possession and murderous intent, but also his ability to manipulate people: he made an entire agency believe he was harmless (of course, Jack was terrified but so would you if you were put with this entity for a month to see what happened and you were being constantly possessed).

Only after Say Goodbye do IRIS take Anti seriously, they give him his padded cell and keep him under surveillance.

2. C!Jack is IRIS’s equivalent of a Class D (SCP Foundation)

IRIS wouldn’t put anyone in a room with Anti if they thought they were important. They knew he could be dangerous, and it’s not worth risking your best people. That’s where c!Jack comes in: they put the two of them in a closed off space (all of the first month of the Seánanigans take place inside his house) and kept watching to see what happens. Jack starts playing video games as a way to keep himself entertained, and starts talking to the watchers to keep himself company. They give him the brain chip (see KJSE theory) to monitor him (he is an IRIS employee after all) and let anti loose on him.

See also: “you kept me inside” this could mean a lot of things, but I imagine they contained Anti, then when he got freedom it’s only like, diet freedom: he’s kept inside a locked house with one guy to torment. He feels like he deserves more (this links to part 3 as well).

3. How IRIS pissed off Anti

As I said above, Anti is firstly annoyed at being captured. We don’t know what he is, but I don’t think being kept in a small cell will be nice for anyone or anything. When he’s finally given some freedom, he’s allowed to roam one locked house and has one guy to torment, but that guy doesn’t acknowledge anti at all, he just talks to the camera and occasionally comments that his eye is itchy. Anti thinks he deserves more respect, so kills Jack to prove his point.

But then one day he sees Jack walking around like nothing happened. Mans been revived one way or another (looking at you Henrik and Marvin) and Anti is furious. It’s like IRIS looked at his demonstration, locked him up and just went ‘yeah as long as he’s in here he’s no threat’, basically adding insult to injury re Anti’s self esteem.

Anti wants to prove that he’s strong and menacing, and to do that he sets off making a plan on how to get IRIS to finally take him seriously: show them what he can really do. And that’s where we find KJSE.

#jacksepticeye #septic egos #antisepticeye #say goodbye #kill jacksepticeye #IRIS #eldritch theories

[katies3pticeye]

I think now is a good time to remember that Marvin’s book said “IRIS = Antimatter”, so Marvin is well aware of IRIS. IRIS follows the Magic Circle on Twitter, which makes me wonder if IRIS is working for the Magic Circle? Or maybe antimatter is connected to Anti somehow?

I’m so excited for this project nonetheless, but I’m curious where Anti stands in all of this. He was clearly glitching out the advertisement, which makes me wonder if Anti created IRIS, and he’s the power source. Maybe Anti glitches through reality because he himself is antimatter.

I’m so excited Omfg

#jacksepticeye #jacksepticeye theory #jacksepticeye egos #chase brody #jacksepticeye ego #marvin the magnificent #antisepticeye #dr schneeplestein #jj #septic egos #theory #pma #jacksepticeye pma #bro average #jackieboy man #jameson jackson #argentum inanis

[legionnaireslover]

Came by to see if the skeptics were still at it 10 YEARS ON. good God

Yeah, they're still at it.

Their little "narrative" is all they've got, so they can't give it up.

Of course the narrative has "evolved" over the years.

A lot of Septics left when it became apparent that the marriage was really happening, the baby was real and Sophie and BC were making a life for themselves.

But diehards like Gator and Aeltri came up with a really fantastical new "villain" after the "Weinstein/Oscar/Rogue Sophie" plot had worn thin - voila! BC was now a VICTIM of the EEEEEEVIL Sophie, who was a SEX TRAFFICKER WORKING FOR A SECRET RUSSIAN ORGANIZATION!! And she was using BC for money to finance this cabal! She was keeping him drug addicted and under her control so she could serve her Russian masters! She had even been ARRESTED and had GONE TO JAIL!

More Septics left. And Gator and Aeltri's gang grew smaller still.

And there were now THREE kids and the marriage seemed rock solid, so the desperate Haters now had to explain why BC was seen openly praising Sophie!

So they hatched the "BC's a BRAINWASHING victim of a multi-generational vendetta against him." He suffers from DID and a multitude of other mental disorders! If you see him hugging and kissing his wife - that him being CONTROLLED BY EEEEEEVIL SOPHIE who is "triggering" his alternate personalities, so he will do as she says!

And in fact, this "MKULTRA control" over BC started with his mother Wanda! She "pimped" him out waaaaay before he met Sophie (this is where the generational vendetta comes in - all connected to the Eeeeeevil Freemasons, you see!).

Throw in a "theory" that Sophie was dying of syphilis/cancer/etc. horrible disease and at the same time she's now an active agent of Mossad (WTF?) and her trip to Argentina was just a ruse to traffic children, secure land for Jewish billionaires and bring BC along to do covert intelligence operations for the CIA (???)... and you've got the Hater narrative where it stands today!

Wheeew! That's a LOT of BULLSHIT!