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Not-for-profits shouldn’t have portfolios even though all not-for-profits of a certain size have portfolios to help protect them from financial instability!!! Those monsters!!! Shut down homeless shelters and youth centres right now!!! They are disgusting!!!
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literally every time ao3 needs donations ppl always gotta pull out discourse about it. the only difference this time is that people are using the pandemic as part of their glass house arguments and i just roll my eyes. ppl need to give it a rest
I didn't even know anyone cared about a NFP organisation doing a drive until... nowish. I'm a little offended by how obtuse people are being.
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your point, shows, yes, it is possible for the owners of a website that hosts to make money off of fancontent, which they do, and it would be absolutely fucking hilarious for you to say there isn’t a huge portion of websites like deviantart, tumblr, wattpad, etc. making money off of fancontent.
Those are... all of those are for-profit sites. I said that they are able to skate by on the PREMISE that they fundamentally host original content. You haven’t actually read what I’ve said. 
You do realise that if, as you suggest, we completely change copyright law, the people most heavily affected would be content creators. Big organisations wouldn’t have to worry about plagiarism anymore. Small content creators could have their work transformed with no regard for copyright. 
You’re also suggesting that somehow creators profit off fancreations without requiring the services of other for-profit organisations. 
And the only place that isn’t allowing this monetisation is NFPs like Ao3, who provide a great space for people to have fanworks but not the only space for people to have fanworks. Why do non-profit spaces have to do as for-profit spaces do?
What you are promoting is capitalism. More than that, the further economisation of not-for-profit spaces, which is something people in the third sector are very concerned about to begin with. Do you not see the irony?
my question is if it’s illegal and apparently unethical for fanfic authors to make money off of fan work, why is it ok for the owners of a fanfic hosting fanwork to make money from fanwork ?????????
thats what i been saying but they aint listening. because in their own words i’m too stupid to word it to them
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so why exactly does ao3 disallow creators from putting donation links in their author’s notes?
Hey anon, 
That would be because, as mentioned, Ao3 is a third sector organisation. Please click this link for a short explanation of what a third sector organisation is. 
Ao3, unlike other websites that host fanfiction (such as tumblr and wattpad) does not monetise its site or, and this is important, provide any other service other than hosting fanfiction. Original fiction is allowed as a very obvious sideline. Other sites are for-profit sites than largely promote themselves as hosts for original content. They have plausible deniability with respect to people promoting their patreons. 
Ao3 has fought very hard to allow transformative works a place on the internet at all. Fanworks are on shaky legal ground in the USA. If you don’t want to do your own reading, Wikipedia has a synopsis. You will notice that one of the key issues with fanfiction is fair use. The non-commercial nature of Ao3 is key to its survival.
So, Ao3 disallows creators placing those donations links because:
1. They do not have the wiggle room a for-profit org has. Tangentially, they don’t have the same financial protection a for-profit would have should Disney come at them with a lawsuit. 
2. They provide a very specific service and need to abide by specific laws and regulations to survive. 
There’s other context too, but those are the big ones. The third sector isn’t the private sector. Comparing the two is apples and oranges in a very real way.
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I’d really love it if people could hate capitalism while knowing what it actually is. 
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Alright then, whoever else could you possibly be talking about?
Because, thus far you have specifically been talking about Ao3 and then suggesting that Ao3 acts as private (for-profit) organisations do. 
1. NFPs cannot be run as the private sector is. 
2. Websites like tumblr and wattpad are for-profit and are able to be so because of the presence of advertising and the thin premise that they are primarily hosting original content. 
So, if you, zerocapitalism, have been suggesting that a NFP is less ethical than for-profit, capitalistic organisation which profits off the work of writers... how does all of this work logically or from within an anti-capitalist framework?
This all seems to arise from Ao3′s funding drive, which, as explained above, is a common occurence with NFPs like Ao3 or Wikipedia. 
I would like to ask again, what, if not this, are you even talking about?
my question is if it’s illegal and apparently unethical for fanfic authors to make money off of fan work, why is it ok for the owners of a fanfic hosting fanwork to make money from fanwork ?????????
thats what i been saying but they aint listening. because in their own words i’m too stupid to word it to them
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i drown myself in a thousand oceans of my own fluids
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Third sector organisations don’t make a profit.
All money raised goes directly back into the organisation, towards the purpose of providing better service delivery to stakeholders. They are raising money. They are not making money.
You don’t actually know the difference between government, private and third sector organisations based on everything you have said. In promoting Ao3 paying writers, you are effectively suggesting that Ao3 become a private sector, for-profit organisation. If you had something to say about social enterprise you might be able to skate by... but you do not. I don’t think you know what social enterprises are, either.
All third sector organisations above a certain size have a portfolio to ensure that they can provide stable delivery even as their financial situation inevitably changes. Most third sector organisations, particularly ones based in the USA, rely on donations to stay solvent. In Europe and other regions, the government pitches in heavily. That will never be the case for Ao3 due to the nature of the service it provides. 
You do not know what you are talking about and I sincerely hope no one is putting any weight on what you say.
I am quite happy to provide resources to anyone who doesn’t understand why this entire discussion is based on a misunderstanding of third sector structure and economics.   
my question is if it’s illegal and apparently unethical for fanfic authors to make money off of fan work, why is it ok for the owners of a fanfic hosting fanwork to make money from fanwork ?????????
thats what i been saying but they aint listening. because in their own words i’m too stupid to word it to them
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i drown myself in a thousand oceans of my own fluids
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*points up*
is this what ao3's employees r payed to do?? fight losing arguments against anyone who criticizes the company????? or are these people embarrassing themselves for the sake of some obscure fetish
They don’t pay their employees, the people who work on their site are all volunteers.
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Lio gets out of prison on a Wednesday
After a year in detention, Lio is released back into the world. Meis and Gueira drive him home as he thinks about what freedom means.
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Honestly, this is perfect.
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Brand new chapter of my WLW Wangxian fic full of outsider POV that Wei Wuxian didn’t ask for. 
In this chapter Song Lan prepares to go to a Gala he really doesn’t want to go, but he has to now, because A-Qing already got paid to babysit his friend’s kid and he agreed to drive.
Wei Wuxian stopped before him and held her arms up, like a toddler that wanted to be picked up. Behind her, Hanguang-Jun’s lips pursed in a manner that implied Song Lan would suffer if he didn’t indulge her pregnant wife.
“Bring it in,” Wei Wuxian said.
Song Lan sighed, for what felt like the fiftieth time that evening, and brought it in.
“You look like an organza nightmare,” he whispered, as he carefully wrapped his arms around her.
“You look like a little bitch,” Wei Wuxian whispered back, gleefully.
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Cropped update
I’m really only on twitter now, but! Cropped has updated recently! 
There’s a new chapter dedicated to Nie Huaisang being terrifying and a side story about Yu Ziyuan. 
Hope you like them!
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Recognition
Galo used to love attention, any way he could get it.
He grew up forgetting the faces of his parents. Their photos had burned in the fire, lost to him. He hadn’t thought to write his memories down (the words would jump around the page, the letters upside down and turned around). The details of how they spoke had faded, as had the smell of their shampoo and the little nicknames they called him. He spent his childhood in a dormitory full of children who would come and go, while he remained.
The people who worked at the orphanage were like that too. New people every year. Something to do with ‘Outreach.’ They wouldn’t stay, but if he helped and smiled and made them laugh, they might hug him and pose for photos with their phones. It was like being loved for a while.
Every few weeks the Gov would come, and there would be kind words that came with a flashbulb. Galo would steal the newspaper and cut out clippings when the articles came out. He took them with him, when he aged out of the orphanage. No more photo ops, but the Gov still got him his first proper, adult job.
He'd wave for the people, when they looked at Burning Rescue with relief and awe.
Kray told him he was an eyesore.
And maybe so, but why would that ever stop him? Galo was so much more than the broken portion of his heart. He'd built a truth over a lie and Kray was wrong if he thought Galo shouldn't be proud of it. Everyone deserved to be saved.
 Afterwards, when he was alone at night, he'd think about the people who had used him for selfies and bylines, and he found he couldn't remember any of their names. Their regard was as transparent as a pane of glass, but he'd needed it then.
He’d needed so many things, back then.
When it comes up (and it doesn’t, not that often), Galo will smile and flirt with the camera, a symbol to the world he saved. He does it because he thinks he should, and it’s what he knows, but it's not about him. He doesn't enjoy the attention anymore.
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Failure
 Princess Pear danced across the television screen, smugly rubbing her stolen victory in Dowser’s face while he was forced to politely applaud her. Lio gripped his controller so hard it almost creaked.
“The blue bomb is for cowards,” he said.
“That’s what you get!” Galo shouted, hands raised to the sky as he did a lap of the apartment. “That is what you get when you take on the champion, Lio!”
“You’re so immature!”
“I can’t hear you over the sound of how amazing I am!”
Galo graduated to performing a series of mid-air jabs, aimed at nothing, followed by an uppercut. His beautiful arms flexed in a manner that would’ve been very appealing had Lio not been consumed by his fury. Lio was amazing at Marko Kart. In eighth grade he had been unbeatable. Meis and Gueira could not compare to him. Lucia had never bested him on the rare occasions they’d been alone and bored at the fire station. He was the king of Chromatic Causeway.
Not once, in two whole months, had Lio managed to win a single race of Marko Kart against his boyfriend.
“You know what this means,” Galo said, gleefully.
“That wager was non-binding,” Lio hissed.
“We shook on it.” Galo held his hand up, as if in demonstration. “Be a man, Lio.”
“This is juvenile.”
Galo leaned in close, his voice firm and husky, “Lio de Galon, Fotia.”
“Damnit,” Lio said.
   Lio rode on Galo’s shoulders the entire way to the pizza place. 
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I love you for writing this. It’s been a while since I did my first aid certification, so I thought he had placement right but hadn’t considered the rest. I love that they got so much right in between their poetic licence. 
It is 7 am. I have not yet slept and I spent half an hour analyzing Galo's actual cpr skills with my red cross certification instead of like actually saving someones life or going to bed
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