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#'at this point i'm going to start assuming you're terfs'
rthko · 1 year
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Most reblog iterations of a popular post of mine have a long comment about how considering "queer" a slur is a terf psy op. They're not arguing with me btw, just using the point I made as a starting point and adding some points of their own. I sort of understand where they're coming from but I really cannot cosign. I grew up in rural Indiana. The inconvenient truth of the matter is that the people who view queer as a slur usually have understandable reasons to do so, and experiences are subjective. If you're response to that is "so is gay, but you put up with that anyway," I'm just going to assume we have vastly different upbringings. Where I grew up in the early 2000s, "gay" meant "your shoes look stupid" and "queer," outside of academic circles, meant "I want to hurt you." I always found it ironic that the response to these nuances from the trigger-warning-using, "your trauma is valid" crowd is a resounding "get over it, snowflake." I do use the term these days, but in my own case I prefer "gay" because it feels more unequivocal and, oddly enough, more queer. Now, the people marching with signs that say "GAY NOT QUEER" are terfs and other unsavory types, but to the extent to which it is a terf psy op, it wasn't a plot cooked up from scratch but a matter of taking advantage of very real pain that a lot of people feel.
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pissditching · 1 year
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I've noticed something in the discussion around Gerard Way and trans identity that I am officially fed the fuck up with. While talking about Gerard's outfits from the second leg of the tour, people love to use use the line "clothes ≠ gender" as a gotcha for those of us who are keen to the fact that they aren't cis. This pisses me off for three main reason plus a fourth mini reason that's more of a history blurb than anything else.
Before we start anything, Gerard has been out as not cis for the better part of 8(!) years now. To not acknowledge that is doing them a disservice. Some of you have purposely chosen to ignore that fact. Right out the gate that's fucked up. Ok now we can proceed.
First off, you're right. Clothes do not, in fact, equal gender. I know this, and it sounds like you'd like me to believe that you know this. So forgive me for being a little confused when you go on anon after they're photographed wearing what you dub to be "masculine clothing" (i.e. anything that's not a skirt/dress with heels) and tell me I'm an idiot for implying that they aren't a cisgender man.
Secondly, the concept that clothes don't equal gender in only true to us very recently. If you think that Gerard Way, a 45 year old ex-Catholic Gen-X'er who grew up in an wildly conservative suburb of north New Jersey doesn't have a different relationship between clothing and gender than you, a 14-to-20-something year old who hasn't closed tiktok in three days and averages 0.3 minutes of critical thinking per week, then you're extremely delusional and self-centered. People are socialized in entirely different ways. As humans, our experiences are not in any way universal. What doesn't mean anything to you means everything to someone else. Maybe you don't equate femininity with skirts and dresses, but I guarantee you a 45 year old who has openly struggled with gender identity their entire life does in some capacity. This is not a bad thing.
Thirdly is that in your attempt to sound as woke and morally upright as possible, you're unintentionally (or intentionally, seeing as a considerable number of you are terfs,) discrediting and invalidating the way someone experiences gender euphoria because you personally don't get it. Gerard Way has only ever said "I don't use labels" in response to people implying that they're cishet. If your first reaction to seeing someone who could even potentially identify under the transfem umbrella experiencing visible gender euphoria in a dress is to say "oh well clothes don't equal gender, so I'm going to assume that he's a man in a dress until he explicitly outs himself", then congratulations! You're transphobic. Because that's the thing. When you use the rhetoric of clothes ≠ gender in that context, it becomes crystal clear you don't actually care about trans people. You just want to sound like the smartest person in the room. And you're willing to throw GNC trans people under the bus in order to achieve that goal.
I think people have forgotten big time that "don't assume my gender" originally meant "don't assume I'm cis", because now the way people interpret the rhetoric (don't assume my gender, clothes ≠ gender, I don't use labels, etc.,) and use it to prove a point only use it as if to say "it's inherently wrong and creepy to identify and acknowledge when people aren't cis. Cis is the default and the only safe assumption. Anything else is offensive and crossing a major boundary" and you can tell it's because they view transness as an insult to someone's character. We have to, collectively, stop viewing transness as an allegation you either have to beat or bear with. Alongside that, we have to stop assuming cisness.
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blubushie · 2 months
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Are there some things you dislike about fans' interpretation of the other mercs?
Yeah uh. This is long so it's under the cut. Whole TF2 fandom boutta be like 2Fort on my arse.
I hate how people make Medic "evil". He's fun and goofy and likes doing experiments and he'll betray the people paying him for the sake of his long-time coworkers who he's mates with. He's not evil, he's not manipulative, outsmarting the LITERAL DEVIL doesn't make you a bad person. There is literally nothing in canon to point to Medic being evil except MAYBE stealing a bloke's spine (coulda been dark humour for all we know) and turning a criminal into a sentient pumpkin, which is something that Engie HELPED HIM DO but no one goes around calling him evil. Medic is chaotic good or chaotic neutral, he is not evil.
The amount of people who are downright racist about Demo, or the amount of people who reduce his addiction to the butt of a joke. There's a lot of shit that I notice. They act like Demo isn't fiercely loyal—look at his relationship to his mum). They act like he's lazy because he's an alcoholic—HE HAS 3 JOBS AND WANTS MORE, HE WASN'T LAZY IN THE COMICS HE WAS DEPRESSED BECAUSE HE LOST ALL HIS MATES. On the other end of the coin, you have people insisting that Demo's alcoholism isn't as bad as it actually is, as if substance abuse is a fucking moral failing and they can't have their blorbo be a bad person by just letting him be the alcoholic he's shown to be in canon.
As an intersex man: do not get me fucking started on the amount of intersex+NB headcanons I've seen of Pyro. People need to realise that like the rest of the human population, most intersex people are cis, that gender is not equivalent to sex, and that EVERY intersex character being non-binary promotes a harmful stereotype. Actually I'll be honest—I side-eye EVERY intersex Pyro headcanon what's made by a perisex person. Most the time they give off massive virtue signal vibes and I really don't like how the second you can't clearly determine someone's gender people immediately go "ah, intersex" like we're all visually androgynous. I also don't like how the person MOST OTHERED ON THE TEAM is always given the intersex headcanon. It doesn't make me feel represented, it makes me feel like everyone already seems me as an other and that's all I'll ever be.
People who act like the pronoun police and insist Pyro's pronouns are they/them. Canonically Pyro is always and consistently referred to as he/him except when he's being dehumanised by his own team and called it. It's cool if you headcanon Pyro as using they/them, just remember it ISN'T CANON and you shouldn't be getting on people's arse about non-canon pronouns. What are you a cop?
On a similar vein, the amount of people who infantilise Pyro. Pyro was literally the CEO OF A COMPANY who was responsible for RECORD PROFITS OF THAT COMPANY. Pyro is an adult. People assume that because Pyro hallucinates or enjoys "childish" things that it means Pyro's a child. Please be fucking normal about mental illness, my god.
People who make Scout transfem for the sole purpose of shipping Scout with Pauling, worse even if they outright make it so that Scout transitioned SPECIFICALLY to hook up with Pauling. You realise that you're enforcing TERF "all transfems are predatory and transition just to get chicks/transfem lesbians are just straight men" rhetoric right? Please tell me you're aware. People who make Scout transfem for reasons beside this (ie you just like transfem Scout) and still hook her up with Pauling for fun, I love you and this post is not about you. <3
People who ignore Medic's likely bisexuality in favour of writing him as a strictly gay male. Bi erasure is fucking real lads. If you have the view that Demo was talking out his arse and didn't actually shag Medic's wife cuz he's not even married, cool ok. I'm talking about the people who insist Medic's wife was his beard.
People who act like the ship police with Pauling's sexuality when her being a lesbian was something mentioned in one tweet on Twitter by Jay, not approved by Valve, and never referenced in the source material (outside of MAYBE how she stared at Zhanna while she was fighting robots, but that facial expression could also be interpreted as impressed or "so horrified she can't look away". Especially when she outright agreed to go on a second date with Scout in Expiration Date. If you headcanon her as a lesbian, cool! Just don't enforce it on other people and give them flak for shipping her with non-women characters. This applies to people aggressively enforcing Medic's sexuality as well. What are you a cop?
How the character people trans the most is the white skinny twink, white skinny otter, or white wolf. Why not Demo? Trans people of colour exist too. I can count the trans Demo headcanons I've seen on one hand. Why not Heavy? Why not Heavy? You know fat trans people exist too right?
My family is southern and half the time people don't know what the fuck goes on down south. Tell me you've never been to a cookout without telling me you've never been to a cookout. They either write him as too northern/coasty and only enforce the "stereotype" southern aspects of him, or they write him as racist/homophobic/transphobic/etc because he's southern. Luckily the latter gets a LOT of pushback on Tumblr so I haven't seen it much, but it's more prevalent on Twitter and fanfic sites.
People conveniently ignoring how Heavy's father was killed and his family was imprisoned by the USSR so they can call him a communist. Lol what. I get that you hate capitalism but you realise there's more options than just capitalism vs communism vs socialism right? That you can hate/dislike communism without also being a capitalist? Heavy would not support communism after what the USSR did to his family in the name of communism because his father was a counter-revolutionary. Also people ignoring WHY Heavy's father was killed, and how his father having different politics got his whole family, including innocent children chucked to a GULAG IN SIBERIA where they were starved and constantly abused by the guards, and how even after their escape the government continued to hunt them with the intent of killing them. He would not be a communist. He probably sees a hammer and sickle in his fucken nightmares.
Spy being evil and an arsehole. You know his schtick is the suave gentleman right? He's cool but he also has to be cringefail. And arsehole is a far cry from a gentleman.
People making Soldier a bigot. Har har I know it's funny to joke about the bloke obsessed with America being a bigot, but do you honestly think he cares enough? He's xenophobic at worst. Everyone is assumed to be American and his best mate is a black Scottish cyclops. Half the time I'm convinced you people want Soldier to be a bigot so you can write bigoted shit and not cop shit cuz it's coming out of his mouth.
Carrying on from prev, the amount of people I've seen use the time setting as an excuse to be bigoted towards the characters. This is ESPECIALLY prevalent where it seems like every story-focussed fic of Demo has a scene where someone is being racist to him and he Heroically Sticks Up For Himself or someone else sticks up for him to show How Much They Don't Care About Being Seen With A Black Man (usually it's Soldier, sometimes it's Sniper). You realise everyone knows racism is bad, right? That that's really not necessary? It wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't in EVERY FIC but it's like the author always needs to proudly claim themselves Not Racist while writing REALLY RACIST SHIT directed at the ONE CONFIRMABLE MAN OF COLOUR on the team just so they can yell "RACISM BAD but here's me jumping at the opportunity to call a man of colour a racial slur".
Well, reckon that about covers her...
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gothhabiba · 1 year
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I think as someone who has followed you for a very long time (pre 2016) other anon will forgive me for saying that you have had open and long mutual interactions with trans women on this website the entire time I've followed you. I recently found an old post you wrote about trans women's right to determine how, what, and to whom to label genitals when "penis repulsion" was the special flavor of terf panic over lesbians dating trans women. I know you would never wave around what you've been doing as an answer to these people because it wouldn't change any missteps you actually made.
It's quite a lot to me that anyone actually could have followed you during that era and believe anything but that you were a little too credulous of butchcommunist's excuses when she started to get called out. Early on, she had trans feminine mutuals who also stood by her. You're certainly not being more supportive or writing completely new content about fighting transmisogyny to cover your tracks. You have been this way for as long as I have followed you. Feel free not to publish this if it seems too defensive, but I think some people's memories are shorter or more muddled than mine.
you're right that I'm wary of appearing to be 'doing PR'—people who are upset with me about this are perfectly within their rights to be upset, and if I can set anyone's mind at ease by clarifying that I believe that to be the case and informing my current followers who may not have been around at the time of what happened with this a few years back, then I'm happy to do that.
the post and the time that you're talking about were around the same time that I first started to feel reservations about some of her posts (like referring to "gender nonconformance" when asked specifically about trans women; or saying that no one is ever obligated to have sex with anyone else, and then later saying that she never "said or implied" that she thought it was trans women who were pressuring cis lesbians to have sex with them, when, like, you kind of don't have to, that is obviously what people are going to assume).
I discussed these reservations with people in my personal life (this must have been 2017?) but basically came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to unfollow or block her yet because my stance on counter-recruiting is that, when it seems like things could go either way (like, someone is still vocally denying animus for trans women or support for policies that limit transition, but evidently flirting with terf ideology), it is the opposite of helpful to cut them off.
because for sure the people who are not going to cut them off.... are terfs..... and so now you've closed the possibility (however large or slim it might have been) of them reading what you write and reblog on the subject and changing their mind. and I believe that terfs know this, and play up the whole "genderists ostracise you just for asking innocent little questions" thing, and use this to drive recruitment. but maybe this is credulous of me.
I also believe that if someone is plainly a 'crypto'-terf to the extent that they are knowingly interacting with self-professed terfs (so, barely 'crypto' at that point) then it is too far gone for that, and the only thing you're doing by continuing to allow them to reblog from you is furthering the point of crypto-terfs in the first place (namely, to draw people in by degrees through 'legitimate,' 'respectable' engagement with left-wing people that gradually shades into more and more overtly terf circles—same as any other fascist or far-right ideology). so that's why I unfollowed when I did.
during 2018-2019 I was attending grad school, which required 16-17 hours of work from me every day, and so I wasn't online very much at all—if memory serves, the 'private terf chat' thing came out somewhere in the middle of this time, and I unfollowed when I was 'back' and able to investigate / catch up to what was going on.
people are welcome to disagree with my ideas about terf recruitment and potential strategies for counter-recruitment, which I am not even sure that I'm right about but am merely trying things out as I go. it makes total sense for people to guess that I saw the writing on the wall and to view this kind of thing as affiliation, and I sincerely am sorry to anyone who felt less safe, then or now, because of my actions.
the reason that I haven't talked in depth about this before is that, like, again, it seems like spin! lmao
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Really beginning to loathe the way one of the battlegrounds of trans people vs. TERFs is "arguing which Wrong Side MRAs are on"
Trans people and their allies seem to think MRAs are allied with TERFs because TERFs have been known to hang around with Tories, Evangelical think-tanks, and White Supremacists, all of which are indicative of MRAs for reasons I find non-obvious. Like, if you're going to go down that route, you could at least point out where the offending White Supremacist has said anything about men's rights. Even for grifting purposes.
Meanwhile, TERFs seem to think MRAs are allied with trans people (going so far as to call them TRAs just for the acronym association) because, uh, all the laws trans people are fighting for will somehow make it easier for men to rape women, which is something they assume MRAs really want, for reasons I again find non-obvious.
And look, I'm not going to No True Scotsman MRAs, there's probably people out there on both sides of the discussion, and a few people remaining neutral besides. All I can really do is give my personal philosophy of men's rights.
I always start with "men are flawed, and varied, and important". Everything else flows downstream of that. If you can't accept one of those premises, I'm afraid we will not see eye-to-eye. One of the first and most important things that comes after is that men should, fundamentally, be given the freedom to be who they want to be, so long as they are not hurting anyone. That encompasses a wide range of things, but important inclusions in that for the purposes of this discussion are full bodily autonomy over the self, and freedom from expectations of behaviour based on gender.
The reasons given for why MRAs are on the wrong side every time seem fundamentally incompatible with these philosophies, and, if I'm perfectly honest, any functional philosophy of men's rights I can imagine (that isn't just grifting).
Like, okay, trans people think we're on the TERFs' side, and sure, I'm not going to deny that there are probably transphobic MRAs out there. But, if you look at the rationale TERFs, the foundation of their beliefs is most often that all men are evil, and these trans people are just more men trying to be evil in a particularly insidious way.
And yes, this is absolutely a conservative belief, so I can see how conservative men would ally with women who hate them! This is a tactic that religious fundamentalists have used for CENTURIES to suppress the freedoms of women. Even when they are men, they say "all men are evil, so don't go out on your own", or "all men are evil, so wear this special modesty clothing so that you shan't tempt them", or "all men are evil, so save your virginity until a marriage which has been blessed by God". This works because, when you accept this belief, you accept their authority and any doctrines around ensuring your safety that they put out.
But, it's kinda fundamentally incompatible with men's rights activism in any coherent form! Religions will take the hit of "making women fear men" because they typically don't care. But seeing men as evil is specifically something MRAs don't want, and so it makes no sense to ally with TERFs while the belief that all men are evil is their driving force. Like, there's no benefit! Hating trans people is objectionable, but hating trans people for explicitly TERF reasons is actively self-destructive.
Meanwhile, TERFs think we're on the trans people's side because any victory for them is an attack on women's rights, which... alright, fine. I can't dispute it because you're looking at human rights as though it's pie. That's a common thing among radfems, tbh. Once upon a time MRAs were shut down on the basis that victories for feminism were bad for them. Silly men, don't you know that rights aren't pie, and more for women doesn't mean less for you? Now the script is inverted, with radfems viewing every single concession to the idea that men have issues as an attack on women's rights.
I'd love to convince you that I don't, in fact, love to rape women, and want women to be as unsafe in public spaces as possible, but I know nothing I say will get through. I can only say that I've never wanted to rape someone, but I've never looked at the women's toilet door and considered it a greater obstacle to raping women than my own unwillingness to rape. I certainly don't think of intruding upon the space inside the door as a greater crime than rape.
Nah. The reason I break in favour of trans rights is not just because I have friends who are trans, but the trans rights worldview is generally compatible with my philosophy of men's rights. (Apart from the fact that they often/usually hate men's rights activists, but to be fair, they're hardly unique.) I quite like the idea of being just who you are without apology, without caring what other people say you "should" be. I think breaking down the rules that define gender roles in society is a very important thing for everyone.
And, on a purely self-interested level, it is poignant and heartbreaking to hear trans men's accounts of what their lives are like, now that they're living as men.
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banavalope · 1 year
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Not to be rude but it’s not really ridiculous for somebody to get prickly when you reblog an article that whines about people softblocking the author for being fine with somebody creating erotic pedophiliac content.
I want to tell you that I genuinely appreciate you being the first of, like, anybody to actually tell me what your interpretation of the article was. It gives me a jumping off point for something I've been thinking about all day, which if you're not in the mood for that feel free to tune out after the first paragraph responding directly to you. Otherwise, I'm just using this as an opportunity to open the floor for discussion.
That was not my takeaway from that article, nor has that been the takeaway I've seen other people have, including people I had to ask in my real life about it. I assumed I must have read it wrong by the strong reaction I got. So I would say that, from my perspective, it was in fact very ridiculous. I also respectfully disagree with your interpretation. To even call it whining I find is an incredibly poor read of it. Maybe there's some layer of discourse I'm not privy to, they left names out so I can't investigate these accused artists for myself.
But this perfectly segues us to what I really want to talk about. The entire article is from a japanese artist aimed at a japanese audience, explaining how the word "proship" is an american fandom centric term that has no specific meaning, and therefore cannot be taken at face value. I understand the people coming at me for reblogging it feel that we all unanimously agree proship specifically refers to being pro incest/pedophilia, but I regret to inform you it's not as unanimous as you think.
As someone who was around in 2015 when the words "proship" and "anti" started to enter the common fandom vernacular, the muddling of what proship actually meant can be pinpointed to bad actors in the MHA twitter fandom at the time, popularizing the use in order to attack people that shipped BakuDeku, or fans who wanted Endeavor to have a redemption arc. This is when the meaning of being "proship" or "anti" began to get extremely conflated.
I'll take a step back real quick to say that the words "pro shipper" and "anti shipper" have been used since the 90s to mean, quite simply, someone who wants to talk about shipping or someone who doesn't. There was no laundry list of ulterior meanings, it was a way to identify who in fandom had no interest in shipping. This is also coming from someone who's been around in these spaces long enough to know this as fact from experience.
Somewhere along the way it started meaning pedophilia/incest/abuse, I find that very suspicious the way it shifted meanings from something so literally innocent, to something so ambiguously ill intended, when you can just say "they fetishize incest" without having to bring shipping into it. You can just call someone a MAP, what does shipping have to do with it. More people should be questioning why that is.
Who benefits from ambiguous terms the most? What kind of people are looking for ways to get around calling themselves pedophiles? Why let them feel safe in fandom spaces by giving them ample opportunity to hide behind something that has nothing to do with them. Shipping isn't your problem dude, you like children, fucking go to therapy. (not a statement aimed at you, the anon)
People are taking issue with the article even wanting to have a nuanced discussion about the word proship, when they should actually be taking issue with the fact nobody knows who our enemies and allies are anymore because we keep inventing new ways to include our personal """squicks""" (for lack of a better word, not huge on the word squick tbh) into it. Just say what you hate, it's fine. I hate people who abuse children, I hate people who abuse adults, I hate terfs, I hate fascists, I hate incest, I don't like pregnancy, eye stuff is weird, death makes me really upset, I think I should be allowed to kiss Rom the Vacuous Spider. Really easy to just say that in no uncertain terms. Anybody of all languages can pick up what I'm putting down.
If someone from another country cannot understand the point you're trying to convey without you first giving them a fandom history lesson as to what it really really means for REAL to be called a proshipper, idk maybe just say you hate pedophiles instead, coward (not calling you, the anon, a coward. I have aimed this at God himself).
And keep in mind too, this is barely a fraction of a tangent to a larger discussion that could be had about this, philosophically. We haven't even touched on the effect media has in real life, the dissolution of fandom minors being able to have safe friendships with fandom mentors, or even how the recent infighting of fandom, and fandom """""Purity Politics""""""" of the last 5 years, can be traced back to decisions made by corporate web3.0 wanting to monetize its 3 biggest platforms SO BADLY that it refuses to create spaces for minors to escape adults. A minor cannot even play roblox without being under threat of a 30 year old content creator existing near them, and I think that's fucked up.
A real plethora of nuanced discussion here to be had.
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bananonbinary · 9 months
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Hey, I just wanted to send you an ask apologizing, because I may have accidentally caused/added to some of the vitriol accusing you of being a terf.
What happened is that I saw your post get blazed and clicked on the person who blazed it instead of your heading— it directed immediately to the blog of greater-than-the-sword, where I was greeted immediately with some of the most horrible vile shit I've seen said about trans people. So when I reblogged a post talking about how we shouldn't give Tumblr money unless they focus on accessibility— I'm disabled myself and have had several really bad experiences because of flashing ads, which they haven't fixed— I added that the person who started it is a Christian fundie anyway, so why are we supporting it. At the time I didn't immediately link to the blog of the person who'd blazed that post, because I didn't want to be the subject of a hate campaign (It's happened to me before on here) but in hindsight that was irresponsible.
Since then a Couple christian fundamentalists seem to have gone Whole Hog on supporting crab day— And they are big users of blaze, as a demographic, So I think people have been seeing more of their posts and it's gotten worse where it's caused more anger from other people, but I think my addition to the accessibility post spread rather further than I intended it to— and I'd meant more to highlight discomfort with the way that Christian fundamentalists are going All In on the crab day thing. I'm still not in support of it while the website is rolling out changes that are aggressive to disabled users, But your post has been one of the ones gaining the most traction and obviously you do not deserve to be lumped in with the idea being co-oped by a horrible demographic, and I hope you're doing alright.
this is very kind, but i don't blame you. there ARE horrible people talking about crab day, and it is NOT My Concept, i'm just someone whose post about it got blazed, so a lot of people are assuming i'm The Leader of it. and while i obviously think crab day sounds like a fun idea and that giving money now is the best way to motivate tumblr to make the necessary changes, i don't really think it like. matters that we disagree on that point, on any sort of moral level. there's a huge difference between disagreeing with someone on the best way to solve a problem, and disagreeing on whether the problem exists in the first place, and we definitely agree that tumblr has Problems.
i feel like people think i'm getting a ton more hate than i actually am; its mostly relegated to the replies on that post, i haven't gotten any genuine harassment in my inbox or callout posts or anything. there's just a few people going into the reblogs and insinuating that everyone who talks about crab day is super suspicious and probably transphobic, and one or two people just blatantly lying and saying "this op is a terf" in the notes. which is obviously frustrating, and i worry that some people will block me pre-emptively because of it, but it's far from a Serious Harassment Campaign.
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random situation time. one of your mutuals that you are pretty close to (let's say mutual A) hates one of your other mutuals you are also pretty close to (let's say mutual B). like, there's no beef between A and B, it's completely one sided. A thinks B is repulsive and awful and have them blocked. B knows they're blocked, but they barely know A, so they don't care. A never starts drama, just used to vaguepost sometimes about B when they were a follower.
go back to before A blocked B. you saw one of the vague posts A made about B. it's clearly mimicking B's op, even though it doesn't say any names, so it's obvious what it is about. B "knows" A, but doesn't follow A back, so they have no way to know about this unless they are told. do you tell B what A did? or do you just let it be? are you annoyed by what A is doing? remember you are close to both, but definitely closer to B.
sorry for the long ass text lmaoo. hope you're having a good saturday 💕
before i give my two cents, let me please express to you how much joy it brings me to get messages like this that basically just ask my opinion. i looooove having opinions 😂 and i'm having a good saturday despite it being a pretty bad pain day. i hope your day is going well, too!! 💙
let's break it down bc ya bitch likes lists and bullet points
Person A:
Hates Person B
Blocked Person B
Does not start drama with Person B
Vagueposted about Person B
Person B:
Knows they are blocked by Person A
Does not know Person A well
Doesn't care that Person A has them blocked
Wasn't following Person A pre-block
You:
Are mutuals with both Person A and Person B
Are close with both Person A and Person B
Are closer to Person B
Saw Person A mocking Person B before they blocked them
Firstly, I think there are a lot of variables in this situation that I don't have that would almost certainly inform my decision. Context can be everything. I would assume that Person A's reasons for despising Person B aren't over something that's that big of a deal because you still follow them both and are, in fact, closer to Person B than to Person A. So, it's not like Person B is like. A zionist or TERF or something along those lines. But for me, it does really depend on what about Person B that Person A has taken issue with.
Secondly, you say that Person A doesn't start drama with Person B, but that Person A has vagueposted about Person B in the past (again, I'm assuming they no longer do). While not directly engaging with Person B, I would argue that that very much is Person A starting drama. As someone observing this, it would definitely put a bad taste in my mouth towards Person A. Like, I'm 29. I spent years on this website engaging in drama and I have absolutely no interest in doing so anymore. I'm best friends with the block button. We paint each other's nails and do face masks together. It still depends on the situation and why Person A hates Person B so much and my personal feelings on the matter, but that could be something I would unfollow Person A over.
One other big factor that would affect my decision is how long ago this all transpired. Was this something that happened a year ago? A few months? Yesterday? Because there will always be a part of me that would want to tell Person B if I saw someone talking shit about them behind their back. I'd want someone to tell me if I was Person B. But if it's a situation where the dust has clearly settled and there haven't been vagueposts for a while, then let sleeping dogs lie. From what you stated, Person B doesn't really seem to care about Person A or whether or not Person A likes them. That's what pushes me more toward not telling Person B and just leaving the situation alone. I think if Person A was still actively vagueposting about Person B and this was a recent occurrence, I probably would tell Person B, but I don't have enough information to know for sure.
Regardless, I think that yes, Person A's actions would annoy me. It's just kind of a dick move to vaguepost, especially over trivial stuff. Obviously, I don't know if this is something trivial or if it's a legitimate grievance that Person A has, but with the information you've provided, I would probably say that I wouldn't tell Person B.
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transinclusionary · 8 months
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Were you the person cosplaying as a transwoman when you are AFAB? Because that's just sick af. I've seen post circulate around you - I just came here because I recently followed you ... and .. now .. Idk ..
I used to used to refrain from confirming my gender with anybody, due to how uncomfortable I was about my gender being a talking point online. I have always struggled with my gender identity. The idea of people focusing more on what's under my clothes instead of the content of my character really bothered me. I believed that since people often call out racism without people assuming they belong to the group they're advocating for, that I could do the same for transphobia. Oppression is not comparable, however, and I realized that this did not work for these discussions. If I am to effectively advocate against terfs and for trans people, I then need to use my privilege as being cis passing in discussions. I don't really love people online knowing my gender, because I dont really know my gender either. But this feeling is the exact same thing trans women constantly go through: the feeling that their gender is constantly subjected to ridicule by any random you encounter, both online and IRL.
I have never said that I was a trans women, merely deflected whenever someone asked me about it. In retrospect, it was a selfish thing to do that I definitely regret. I started this blog as a teenager and it's aged with me to mid twenties. If I could, I would go back and re-do some interactions. The mistakes have been uncomfortable but necessary learning lessons for me. I learned I can not effectively advocate if I keep my gender a secret, because it means I refuse to do the same thing that trans people are expected to do.
I wish I could go back and state what my gender was when it mattered. I didnt know entirely how to classify myself, however, so I redirected any attempts to talk about my gender identity because I myself didnt want to think about it. I dont feel cis, but I also dont feel trans, so how can I tell someone what my identity is if I dont know it myself? However, since my gender identity will never be a trans woman, it wont hurt me to confirm with people as much.
I came to the conclusion that I can not have both my ambiguous gender identity and be a terfexclusionist. I chose to sacrifice the comfort of my ambiguous gender identity, in solidarity with trans people who are expected to disclose. Unfortunately, the world we live in is that we are representatives for our gender (which I think is bs). We all deserve to live as individuals and not spend our short lives worrying about how our life will influence the collective's public perception on others who share a gender identity. Unfortunately, this not how the world operates, especially not online as it pertains to trans people. You speak for members of your gender identity when you're anything other than cis, heterosexual, and endosex. Instead of selfishly denying the reality that trans people are forced to be model minorities, I instead adapted my advocacy to better fit this unfair aspect of life. If trans people are forced to cater to cis people's comforts for their safety, it should be up to cis passing people to (safely) show to cisendosex people that it's not just trans people who care about this. This is obviously a fine line, as you dont want to advocate in a way that might cause more violence than it helps. I'm still figuring out the best way to do that. I make mistakes, unfortunately I am not perfect nor will I ever be. But the mistakes help me learn who I want to be, and not starting this blog with everyone knowing my gender was one of those mistakes.
You're right, cosplaying as trans women is disgusting, I've seen it both IRL and online. It pushes trans people out of spaces designed for them, and that's something I would never want to do. However, my refusal to confirm my identity should not mean people just assume I'm a trans woman. I do not believe trans people should exclusively be expected to call out terfs. It means that cisendo people are not doing their jobs as allies to use their priviledge to call out bigotry.
I never started this blog thinking anyone would actually follow me or even have opinions about me. I definitely did not think "terfexclusionist" or "transinclusionary" would be followed by anyone other than my best friend. This blog initially started because of my (admittedly) unhealthy anger about the absolute refusal of terfs to admit that they are doing is wrong. To this day, the rhetoric that terfs spew almost brings me to tears of frustration. The LGB community makes me want to pull out my hair and scream. This is why I often take extended breaks from this blog. I still probably can develop a healthier way to cope with the anger. I want to do something to help this epidemic, but I'm just one person. I just want to do the right thing, but it is often unclear about what is the right thing to do. This is why I appreciate having my followers give me feedback, both positive and negative, as it allows me to introspect.
If you want to remain followed, that's fine, but do not feel pressured to. Life is way too short to continue following someone you dont feel comfortable with. I am always open to any suggestions, criticisms, and concerns by both anon and DM. This goes for both you, anon, and any other of my followers. Please never hesitate to reach out. I appreciate you (and all my follower) for caring about doing the right thing and keeping me on the straight and narrow. Have a good day.
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pizzaheadtv · 1 year
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Hi! And welcome to my Pizza Tower blog. This is my awesome epic pinned post that will have all of the information you need!
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Let's start with the TAGGING SYSTEM
I always loved themed tags. So. Considering the theme of my blog is televisions... we'll go with that!
PTV News Channel - Any analysis or theory posts I do
Director's Cut - Posts from me that aren't analysis or theories
PTV Arts Channel - Idk if this will ever get used but just in case I post art (or writing) here that I made, here is the tag
Special Guest Episode - Crossovers
Squid Tower - My adventures in Splatoon as Noisette
And all characters are tagged with their names. I also rb Sugary Spire art here too so those will also be tagged as Sugary Spire.
Spoilers will not be tagged. I assume you know spoilers if you follow me, considering this blog is themed on the final boss.
More tags might be added as I think of them!
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Okay now. DNIs. I will block you if you're pro ship, aka the fancy term for "I'm okay with children being in romantic relationships with adults or siblings/cousins being in romantic relationships with each other". I will also block you if you're a terf, homophobic, racist, or anti semitic. So don't follow me, this isn't a place for you.
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I'm going to talk about this here too. Yes, I know about the controversy. But I am still going to interact with this game and enjoy it.
McPig may have said some racist things five years ago, and he put caricatures in the game, but what he's not doing is donating the money he gets to hate groups. He's not using his platform to continue to be racist and to convince people to agree with him. While the apology wasn't perfect, he did say he regretted it instead of ignoring it or confirming that he stayed the same by doubling down on the racist things he had done in the past.
I see people talk about FNAF all the time despite the creator using the funds to donate to republicans. People still love Stranger Things despite its anti semitism. People love Undertale and Deltarune even though Toby Fox has collabed with "problematic" people, was friends with Andrew Hussie, and even has some racist and anti semitic stuff in his games. Hell, even Splatoon has its faults. The only reason PT is so easy to condemn is because it's new, and people love to hate popular things.
Point is- I'm not going to throw away an entire game just because of caricatures in the game. Maybe it's because I'm used to it already being in everything (I watch a lot of old cartoons). Maybe it's because I've experienced far worse hate towards me, my family, and friends irl than a couple of caricatures.
I still think it's bad. I still think it should be changed. And I'm not going to buy any merch or any dlcs unless things in Pizza Tower change.
Sometimes you just have to be uncomfortable. The caricatures in PT should be making you uncomfortable, they are not okay. And I'm not just ignoring them. I'm not going to defend the dev either. There is not an excuse for what he said and did.
And if McPig ends up to still be spouting hate and saying racist stuff and using his fame to spread more hate? Then I'll eat my own words and try to distance myself from the game.
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And with that, let's wrap up this pinned post!
Feel free to send me asks to talk about the characters, I love talking about stuff!
Also my pizza tower discord server is RIGHT HERE! It's small and quiet but we love talking about Pizza Tower.
This is an awkward and abrupt end, but so be it.
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feenyxblue · 2 years
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Hi, I just wanted to let you know that self-described ‘femcels’ are not associated with the radfem community and that post you reblogged is unfair to label them as such. Not attacking you at all I hope this comes off as fraternal and not critical
Okay I am going to take this one point at a time. I am going to be nice about it because I believe people are capable of growth and change, including you, nonnie! So I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
The modern "radfem/gender crit/terf" and femcels both draw water from the same ideological well. They assume you can neatly divide the world into two types of people (men and women) and that men are always men and women are always women and that men have dicks and women have pussies, or xy and xx chromosomes respectively. Men are horrible people who should die because the testosterone corrupts them, and uwu women are inherently pure creatures who can do no wrong. More nuanced takes will say that men and women start out the same, but men are socialized to be evil, whereas women are socialized to be compliant victims.
Both ideologies start from this assumption, and the idea that there are universal female experiences and universal male experiences, and it's ultimately not true. It makes perfect sense to lump them together, even more sense when I've lurked on terfblr before, and I've seen people advocating to abort most of the male fetuses (or kill the male babies) because "any society that has a majority men is bound to become sexist."
One last bit: I'm assuming, based on this ask that you are a radfem/terf, and like... drop the transphobia, please. Class analysis can be a decent intro point to analyzing social movements, but its not the be all end all. Outside of me having trans friends who I care deeply about and your ideology harms them, (and also being a dick to trans people is just bad) your ideology keeps cis women on the lookout for gender deviance in other cis women, and GNC cis women wind up suffering a good deal under your ideology. I've seen you guys bring out the phrenology and wingspan to assume a guy was trans and was surprised when he was cis. You're hurting everyone, please stop.
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kittythelitter · 2 years
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I think the best advice I can give anyone on this site is to filter dog whistles. Like. Not just the tags (tho filtering tags like 'radfem', 'antisemitism', 'xenophobia' etc can be helpful) but content filters.
I'm not saying to do this so nothing crosses your dash, or so you can avoid looking at/thinking about this kind of thing.
I'm saying that sometimes I'll be scrolling and see that a post has been filtered because I have "gender critical" filtered. And I'll click into the post, something someone I follow and presumably like reblogged, and it'll be something seemingly innocuous about feminism but because I know it was flagged as gender critical I'll have little alarm bells going off in my head. Something about the phrasing feels weird so I'll go into the notes and see that the post was started by terfs and is being used as a jumping off point to be hateful and transphobic because the women they were representing in their so called feminism were exclusively cis white women.
If you see a post that's about. Idk how lots of religions are cults, you might assume it's about Mormonism or catholicism and reblog it without analysing it. But if the post has already been flagged for you with the phrase 'antisemitism' or 'islamophobia' you're more likely to doublecheck the language and the notes and realize that what you think you're agreeing with is not something you actually believe in.
It's really easy to assume. Especially with content put on your dash by people you like, that the content is something you agree with in good faith. Especially when its claiming to be feminist or anticapitalist or anti republican. But the extra step of knowing that someone in the notes is using dog whistles makes it easier to remember to double check what op means and what the people in the notes are saying before you put a terfy post on your trans friendly blog.
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shinygemstone · 12 days
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sorry that you got threats!!
anyways uhhh ramble about your wip. i know you're writing something 👀
Bet.
So, I've been working on this thing for a while now. It's about a dysfunctional family (the mom is a terf and one of the kids is transmasc, which is the quickest summary of one of the ways they're all dysfunctional) and there's this fantasy world that serves as a metaphor for escapism, except I'm beginning to wonder if it's really the best way to go about it.
The central character, Tresta, is the youngest of the four, and is definitely in denial about her family. She's thirteen in the current wip, and thinks everything is normal. She complains about her parents to her friends, but her friends complain about their parents too, so she assumes everyone has trouble with their parents. The middle two siblings, Kassie and Luca (tboy) have fully accepted everything, and Luca wants to go no contact asap while Kassie wants to keep communication channels open with the dad because while he sucks and is a massive enabler and is actively cheating on his wife with her first love, he's not as bad as the mom.
Now, if I changed things, one key thing would be altered. The oldest sibling, Aria, would not have anyone think she's dead. Aria is the golden child, and would probably join an mlm, a cult, or become a tradwife because her mother unintentionally groomed her to be very susceptible to that sort of thing. Aria is very naive, even moreso than Tresta, who is eleven years younger than her. In the current wip, she found a portal to a fantasy world and got groomed by the king of one of the countries in that fantasy world, marrying him shortly after turning 18. Fun stuff. Aria is very silly because she's a victim, but she's not fully innocent. Aria pushed Luca into his role as the scapegoat and Tresta into her role as the forgotten child.
That, of course, leaves out Kassie. Kassie doesn't fit squarely into one of the three categories - her mother flips between neglecting her and getting mad at her for little stuff when she knows Aria is alive, and between doting on her Successful Little Girl and getting mad at her for little stuff when she doesn't. Kassie is also her father's favorite - he reasonably keeps his distance from Aria, is disappointed in Luca, and resents Tresta. Kassie is very aware of these dynamics. She loves her family and gets that they're all flawed human beings, and does her best to make sure things end well for them as much as possible, and is kind of Luca's lifeline.
Luca is so silly and transgender and mentally ill. He's meant to parallel Aria in certain ways. Luca was shielded from the world like Aria was until he came out, when he was branded as sick and delusional by his mother. Thankfully, the rest of the family was supportive and basically forced her to play nice. Still fucked him up though, especially since he lost his dad's support once he decided not to go to college. At this point in his life, he could either give up and go to college and rack up immense amounts of debt to please his dad or detransition to please his mom. Luca isn't a pushover, so he's doing neither, but it's hard to save money to leave when he's expected to do the lion's share of taking care of Tresta, as well as paying rent and buying his own gas and personal items. Man is also depressed, and his parents brush him off. Kassie tries to help, but she's a broke ass college kid, and Tresta is thirteen.
Speaking of Tresta, I never mentioned the fact that her conception nearly destroyed her parents' marriage. For context, the agreement when Ken (dad) married Penelope (mom) was three kids. Well, after Luca's birth, the two drifted apart, and when Luca was 4-5 they started trying to get closer and fucked more. Well, one day, they accidentally conceived another child. Ken wanted to abort Tresta. Penelope lost her shit. This wasn't the first bit of conflict between the two, but it was the one that ended up defining their marriage.
Point is I love these silly mentally ill bitches and will have lots of fun with whatever I decide to do with them <3
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remix-of-your-guts · 1 month
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insisting that you're 'literally trans' over and over sounds kind of like the terf line about how everyone's non binary, so given that and your post history it looks really suspicious
okay i legit can't tell if this is bait or something because?? what???? i said i was "literally trans" one time because someone asked if radfems reblogging my post meant i agreed with their beliefs and i chose to interpret their question in good faith so i gave a legit answer. i haven't bothered to respond to a single comment from obvious terfs because im not into giving them the time of day.
i'm not sure how me simply existing as a trans individual is agreeing with the argument that terfs make to try and erase the existence of us that "everyone is basically nonbinary because gender isn't psychological at all it's just what's in your pants" (im assuming that's the line you're talking abt and if not then idk what that is) and that's frankly a bizarre leap to make. especially because i don't even call myself nonbinary, im just a genderqueer (as in my gender is inseparable from my queerness) transsexual man.
and just what the hell is suspicious about my post history? i've been posting about trans rights and trans-inclusive feminism since i started this blog, though i can't guarantee every hot take i've had on incredibly niche intra-community discourse aligns with my current beliefs (which mostly boils down to "internet discourse is stupid" and idc)
i don't understand the phrasing here as though i'm fighting widespread accusations of transphobia or transmisogyny when this is literally the first comment i've ever gotten insinuating something like that??? of course that's not including the terfs saying "so close bestie" right before calling me a "retarded tra" but since when do we base our claims of who is and is not a terf on what the terfs themself say, instead of what the person in question has actually said/done? plus making fun of how im "close but missing the point" because i said that a trans woman may have a bit of internalized misogyny is hardly saying i clearly agree with everything they stand for (in fact it's fundamentally about the fact that i dont). if thats what you consider being claimed by terfs, and if being claimed by terfs is what you consider the deciding factor in whether or not someone is one, then basically every blogger who's ever mentioned general feminism, periods, or being a woman on this website would be a terf (even trans femmes cuz ive seen posts from them accidentally get passed around terf circles without them knowing who op is). especially every transmasc on this website would be a terf then considering that they're so bizarrely determined to get us to join them while being violently bigoted against us and dehumanizing us (obv not to the extent of trans women but still it's hardly an effective recruitment tactic) and allying with the people that explicitly want our extermination.
i'd once again like to remind everyone that all i did was point out a woman who happens to be trans accidentally veering into perpetuating misogynistic stereotypes (something that i will call out even quicker when cis women do it, which they do all the fucking time) in a way that made it clear it wasn't a big deal and expecting no one except my followers (which i'm pretty confident in saying none of whom are at least obvious terfs) to see. hopefully we can all agree that trans women are not immune to accidentally perpetuating misogynistic stereotypes- not because of their gender but in spite of it because all women can be misogynistic because MISOGYNY 👏 IS 👏 NOT 👏 STORED 👏 IN 👏 THE 👏 GENDER
and for the record even in the tags of the og post i was saying that it's really sucky that people totally are going to overreact to this and give dylan disproportionate hate because there 100% is a double standard in how society at large responds to these things, and that terfs are going to use it as "proof." but i don't think that just because accusations of misogyny are often weaponized against trans women we can never engage in good faith criticism of them??? in fact i think that makes it very important to help each other make sure there isn't any grain of truth terfs can latch onto (by which i mean being conscious of misogynistic patterns for everyone in our community, including anyone who considers themself an ally to trans people, not unfairly policing just trans women).
however obviously i regret making the post now since it clearly just encouraged the transmisogyny hate-train. and has caused my asks and notes to be flooded with transphobic bullshit directed at dylan, obviously, but also at myself. seriously, i've been deleting all the anons that are from terfs (like ive always done cuz they've targeted me before) but it's been some nasty shit. and it's really fucking annoying having to block every one that crawls over here to tell me why i'm apparently retarded for being trans and supporting my trans sisters. (sorry about the r slur- their words not mine)
okay done talking abt this forever now
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my-strange-attraction · 7 months
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>call yourself a label anarchist
>use incorrect pronouns for someone every chance you get
yeah that checks out. the act of degendering by using they/them is transphobic and is radfem rhetoric. You call other people TERFs without proof and yet you are the FIRST IN LINE to misgender someone and defend yourself with “oh but it’s gender neutral”. It is not when a person has specific pronouns!!! use👏 correct👏 pronouns👏 idiot👏
"every chance you get" Factually incorrect I did use he/him in my response to the ask that mentioned it, and I apologized! I messed up, I admit it. I am a human being! Mispronouning somebody once by accident does not a transphobe make, I should hope anyone if the queer community at all is aware of that, otherwise a lot more of us are transphobes than we thought (even actual trans people!).
Also factually incorrect that I called him a terf. I specifically said he wasn't one, and I honestly don't think he's even likely to be one in the future. He seems very genuinely supportive of trans people, which made me feel better when I first clicked on his profile. I was just pointing out that this is the kind of exclusionist thinking that terfs will absolutely latch onto to start a conversation and convince you that using the label of trans is hurting regular old queer people. That's why I called it a pipeline, not a terf dogwhistle.
I'm assuming because of the timing that you're also the person who called me a straight up liar for saying how queer my school is. I don't know why anyone would lie about that, I mean just being at any college you're going to be surrounded by queer people, especially if you are queer yourself. I wouldn't need to make up a fake number about my school to say I'm in college and my friends are all queer except for like five people.
It just happens to be one of the main selling points of my school that there is a majority queer population, so the percentage is higher (although I do want to reiterate that 70% is on the higher end of the figure, rather than the lower end like I implied in my first post where I mentioned it before I looked up the figures). Also my school is quite small so it's not as difficult to attain a higher percentage as it would be at a state school or ivy.
I would be happy to tell you all about my school in the spring after I graduate and get out of this place, but I was raised to be very wary of putting any information on the internet. I know it may surprise you, but cloudy is in fact just my screen name and not my real name. I'm really careful about this stuff.
Also it's just wild to me how many people have questioned my intelligence or called me stupid in this whole thing. I have never done that! I would never do that! It's one of the meanest things you can call somebody imo. Is it just that you get a rush from saying it? Does it make you feel morally superior? Or is it like a confirmation bias thing, like me being stupid confirms that my disagreeing with you is not due to something you should actually think about and consider but just because I'm obviously not very good at thinking things through?
Idk, I know it's the internet, I just think for a bunch of people who claim to be arguing for the liberation of queer people, you sure put down other queers a lot.
Although maybe you're not fighting for queer liberation, seeing as you want to police what words other people use to describe only themselves...
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macro-microcosm · 2 years
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How is it transphobia? It doesn't suggest all transwomen are inherently violent, just as segregating prisons by sex doesn't mean men are inherently, or all, violent. It just means they are disproportionately so and there are differences in sexuality, psychology, and strength between men and women. It's wrong to put males in women's prisons but ESPECIALLY those with a history of male-typical violence. This isn't even a "terf" view, it's a very normie, average view held by most of the population.
Before I begin:
"Don't feed the trolls." I know.
"It is a mistake and a waste of time to engage this person." I know.
"It's over Cosmo, you have the high ground." I know.
Who even are you? I sincerely doubt you're following me, and the only thing I did to that post was reblog it with a transphobia trigger/subject tag. Are you just going around sending this to every person who's reblogged it??
Anyway, for those who might not know, this is the post in question.
You ever mix a drink really hard, and a lil tiny layer of bubbles starts to appear on the surface and then pop almost immediately? That's the amount of good faith I'm assuming of this person. The gender essentialism- a strong foundation of TERF ideology- laced throughout, the attempt at an appeal to the majority, and a misreading of the post so bizarre that I'm left with no choice but to assume it's intentional lead me to believe that they sent this to me to get an indignant essay to feed the vultures, a strong emotional reaction, or just to plain ol' fuck with me.
However, the way it's worded gives the edifice of someone who may very well have a legitimate question about the issues and intentions of that post, even if it's not this person. For the sake of my sanity and time, as well as those of my followers, I'll keep this short.
Let's say you have a sandwich. Everybody talks about the meat and cheese or whatever, but a truly vital component of the sandwich is the bread. Without it, there is no sandwich. Sure, the middle body of post is about gender segregation in prison. But the lines surrounding it discuss trans women in a way that implies an inherent predatory nature- with a barely-sourced statistic, to boot. Hell, it doesn't even state that all of the people whose pictures are on there are IN women's prisons. Just that they're all trans women.
A sandwich is held together by the bread, an argument is directed by the ideology and point of view in which it is couched. An argument about gender segregation in prisons becomes transphobic when its points are made through the demonization of trans people.
And that's how I'd explain this to someone with a genuine question to ask. To you, though, I only have this to say:
L + ratio + ur on anon + "male-typical violence" lmao + you use "normie" unironically + get a hobby
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