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#ALSO EGGMAN HAS EGGMAN-SHAPED EGGS BECAUSE WHY NOT
viliantropy-art · 10 months
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"More bread please!"
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An injured Amy Rose seeks shelter – without Eggman's permission.
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HOPPING ON HERE AGAIN FOR ANOTHER SUPER LONG THEORY POST BOYSSSSS
Hello THOAM people! How are you all doing today? Good? Great? Did you just have one of the best days in your entire life and you are certain that nothing could possibly ruin it for you now??
WELL YOU ARE WRONG. /j I AM HERE TO RUIN IT ALL.
that is very much a joke I’m sorry I’m very high on adrenaline right now becAUSE THE NEW COVERS FOR ISSUE 9 JUST DROPPED AS I’M WRITING THIS OUT AND I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT AND I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS. So why don’t I just cut the dilly-dallying and get right on with it?
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So, first thing I wanna mention is Sonic’s current state and his relationship status. (You may take that as out of context as you want lol) Sonic is currently in an internal state of panic mixed in with exhaustion. MAJOR exhaustion! Bro had to rush to Omega’s aid right after fighting Shadow in a cave full of ice. If that’s not draining as heck then I have no idea what isn’t. And on top of all that, he not only almost killed Omega, but he also knows now that his friends have known what was going on with him for a while! Probably ever since the scene where him, Tails, and Knuckles went out for breakfast and he passed out at the table. (I can’t remember which issue that was atm. I think issue 3…?) In short, Sonic is experiencing a whole rollercoaster of emotions right now, and he isn’t even awake yet! As soon as he wakes up I theorize he’s gonna be asking everyone a lot of questions, and will then ask for elaborations on top of all the answers he receives! I also don’t think he will be as trusting of others anymore, since his friends all knew of his biggest kept secret for a long while now and nobody said or did anything about it!
Now combine that with the guilt he must feel for Omega… The last thing Sonic witnessed before passing out was him going on a rampage and almost killing the robot. He must not feel great about that…! 🫢 And his relationship with Team Dark will be relatively strained as well. I mean, aside from Rouge probably. She loves Omega, but knows the context behind the situation and doesn’t blame Sonic much for what happened, so I think she won’t change much around the Blue Blur. Though his relationship with Shadow was already strained before all that, so… Yeah.
ALRIGHT TIME TO TALK ABOUT CHIP WOOHOOOOOOOO
We all know now that Chip has finally experienced what I’m calling, “✨God Puberty✨”
(Imagine there are pretty pink sparkles floating around the name. Kinda like the classic “You’re watching Disney Channel” thing)
This ✨God Puberty✨ has essentially opened Chip’s eyes, and changes the game completely! Now we not only have a god on our side but also a god who has context! I believe Chip will try and guide Dark Gaia back to its sleeping state to restore balance like they usually do, as explained in the comic, but the attempt will backfire seeing as Dark Gaia was awoken prematurely by Dr. Eggman. (More on him in a second) Chip will keep trying, because they’re a big floofy funny god that just wants food and just went through ✨God Puberty✨ so they’ll naturally wanna keep this going at a peaceful rate. Because despite all of his power, Chip is still Chip. Just a smol bitty guy who wants ice cream. With the addition of being a god. Sonic will then of course have to step in, leading to him getting his Gaia energy taken away and him being free of this curse, and then the events of the game finale play out as normal. Probably. It’s getting late now and I’m getting tired so my brain energy is wavering so idk exactly if that’s what will happen but it’s some food for thought I suppose.
NOW WE CAN FINALLY TALK ABOUT EGGMAN OH MY GOSH YES LET’S TALK ABOUT THE PATHETIC EGG-SHAPED SCIENTIST THAT WE CALL A MAN MADE OUT OF EGGS
To keep this short and simple, I’ll discuss Eggman within the context we have based solely on the new covers alone. Meaning the only speculation I’ll be doing is based off of those and the last few times we’ve seen the guy in the comic. Which actually was… A long time ago, actually. If I’m remembering correctly, that is. I could be wrong. ANYWHIZZLE LEMME STOP JABBERING AND LET’S GET ON WITH THE THEORIZING-
So the first cover shows a new, most likely final form of Sonic’s, encasing Eggman in a cracked eggshell while using his claws. Or more specifically, there is Eggman, acting as an egg yolk, sitting in a puddle of egg whites with the shell on each side of him, while Sonic’s Gaia claws slowly close in on him in the back. Sonic is staring at him menacingly, his anger and frustration reaching a boiling point due to all the stress he’s most likely experiencing combined with the Dark Gaia energy within him. This cover makes me assume that this issue is gonna act as the final battle against Eggman, a final “Screw you!” To the fat man in red. Obviously, Eggy ain’t going down without a fight, as shown in the next cover, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
The first cover suggests that Eggman is gonna be the main role of the issue, and that he’s gonna get his ass kicked. Sonic is gonna confront him, fully transform into his final Werehog form due to anger and stress, and we’ll then move onto the next issue probably. Again, I’m getting tired so this theory is getting pretty sloppy.
Now onto cover numero dos! I love this cover honestly, and it’s literally only because Knuckles and Tails are seen defending a transforming Sonic from Eggman. They are literally using themselves as like. A meat shield. Normally I’d be like “Oh no what happened????” But right now all I can think is “Omg ✨Brothers✨ 🤩”
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AGAIN IM GETTING VERY TIRED NOW SO I WILL UNFORTUNATELY END THIS HERE AND WILL NOW GO BRUSH MY TEETH BUT HOPEFULLY I WILL REMEMBER TO COME BACK AND ELABORATE TOMORROW IF I HAVE THE TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR READING, IT MEANS A TON THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME OUT OF THE DAY TO DO THAT.
oki ima go sleeb now thank you bai
The art for the covers was great btw I just wanted to let you know it’s absolutely wonderful I could look at it all day
you're gonna love what's gonna happent his issue, i can tell!!!!!!
only um. i think you were wayyy too tired so you confused sonic with metal sonic. either that ur ur just very polite to metals insistance that he is the real sonic.
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crusherthedoctor · 5 months
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Get a Load of Traits - PART 2: Dr. Eggman
It's that time again, folks. Time for another analysis you didn't ask for.
I explained how the setup goes with my previous installment revolving around Sonic, but to recap: for the sake of not dragging things out too much, I’ve decided to keep it all thematically consistent by sticking with 9 main points per character, in terms of what I personally consider the highest priorities for each of them. These will usually not be listed in any particular order of importance or relevance unless stated otherwise, and while there may be other major traits that might not get mentioned (in which case, feel free to bring them up yourself if you see fit), this keeps things simple and focuses on the points that have the most flexibility with how much of the character they encapsulate.
It should also be noted that these posts are made with the game portrayals in mind, because the games mark the core of the franchise, and as such, they objectively contain the purest essence of the cast. Adaptations generally like to play by their own rules, some more gratuitously and inexcusably than others, and this will inevitably crop up with certain entries. All that being said however, I’ll attempt to stay focused rather than devolve into another rant about this adaptation or that adaptation, only directly referring to them if I feel it’s necessary for the point being made.
Anyhow, for today’s installment, the spotlight shines on everyone's favourite villain that they pretend isn't a villain: Dr. Eggman.
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He's larger than life.
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Where could he be???
He's shaped like an egg. He laughs and bellows like it's going out of fashion. He proudly announces when he's in the room for no other reason than to inform everyone that he's in the room. He takes sadistic glee when you don't have enough memory in the memory card. Why would you want to sawdust away this side of him? What are you, a Hollywood writer?
Just as Sonic is a fun hero, it's integral that Eggman is a fun villain. He's all about the colour, the spectacle, the raw energy. This is non-negotiable. If you approach this character and think he needs to be made grounded because he has a silly name or something, then you are going about this the completely wrong way. Villains like Eggman get praised all the time for being vibrant and wacky, so frankly, there is no excuse to write him off for it.
He is genuinely smart.
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"Oh yeah? Well if you played nice, I wouldn't need to transform you into a tedious gameplay mechanic that appeals to furries and is guaranteed to give this game negative reviews from IGN. Haha, gottem."
Look at the screencap above. He was able to turn the tables against Super Sonic right when it looked as though he was thoroughly cornered. How was he able to achieve this? By planning.
*leans closer to the mic*
P L A N N I N G.
Yes, he is not literally omniscient. Yes, he can be prone to the occasional oversight. Yes, unexpected events can transpire that would be difficult if not impossible for him to account for. But all that aside, Eggman is a genius. He does have an IQ of 300. He talks a big game, but with all the amazing tech he's created over the years, and with all the ways he's pulled a fast one over the heroes, he has proven that he can play the big game. Need I remind you that this is a human, and his arch-nemesis is the fastest thing alive, not some dude on the street. He would need to be on his A-game in order to last.
And yes, it is indeed him who does all that brainstorming. Ever since day 1, he's always been very hands-on with his operations, not needing to steal the credit from another scientist or force a hostage to do it all for him. His plans? His weapons? They're all him. Would a mere bumbler be able to subdue the Time Eater?
He is genuinely evil.
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"What's this shite I'm hearing about a Mr. Tinker...?"
We've got the Triforce of Funny Man. We've got the Triforce of Real Intelligence. Now here comes the hardest pill to swallow: the Triforce of Actually Malevolent.
For reasons that can be pinned on certain portrayals that are coincidentally more commonly found in adaptations, fans are all too willing to remove agency from Eggman's villainy. When they're not claiming an amnesiac personality that peaced out as quickly as it arrived is his true self, they're claiming he has all these heated gamer moments for the purpose of avenging his Wasted™ grandfather, Professor Gerald Robotnik. Or they claim he's not as bad as other villains in the franchise because he "only" wants to conquer the world, rather than destroy it.
Now how can I put this gently...
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No, I am not just saying this because I personally happen to favor Eggmen with proper villainous balls to their name rather than glorified frenemies with Sonic at best. Even when exorcising myself of all potential bias, the Eggman we see in the games is still a very different fellow from what a concerning number of fans say with a straight face he is.
He stuffs animals inside robots on a regular basis. He lies, cheats, and backstabs on a regular basis. He fired a laser at the planet with the intent to fracture it, with no consideration for destruction or fatalities. He conquered other planets just to reduce them to self-indulgent attractions for his theme park. He drove a friendly robot to insanity after they were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wanted to destroy Station Square right out the gate, with the only difference come the end of his rope being that he changed tactics to more suicidal means out of desperation. When the Deadly Six were defeated, and the world remained in a dire state, his only reaction was to express relief that there was still something for him to lord over. And although Forces may have glossed over much of his rule, it's clear that it wasn't pleasant for anyone other than himself. Throughout all of this, he rarely brings up Gerald in a consistent manner outside of SA2 and ShtH, and in fact, even in those games, it's pretty clear that he only cares about Gerald's scientific legacy and how that makes him special in the process due to being his grandson. He's never been shown to give a damn about the rest of Gerald as a person, including the philanthropist he was at heart prior to his last days.
Not wanting to destroy the world is not an act of kindness. It's simple logic: he can't conquer something that's not there. And is treating the population to a lifetime of slavery really that softer than a quick and (relatively) painless death? I'm sure TV Tropes would say yes, but what do you think?
He's a self-made man.
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Egg Jameson confirmed.
Our horizontally enlightened fiend did not start with a kingdom of his own. He was not a test tube baby who could shoot lasers out of his hands from day one. He was not born a demon, nor did he hail from a bloodline of gods. When he began his path in life of being a furry shamer, he had only his gadgets and tools to work with. Yet, he has managed to carve himself a bountiful list of pro gamer moves over the years despite his mortal human status, including harnessing the Time Eater as mentioned, bringing his dream Eggmanland to life in all its glory, and the engineering marvel that is Metal Sonic... and almost never suffering from financial troubles despite the frequent destruction of his machines at Sonic's hands. (Keep Sonic 4's name out your fuckin' mouth.)
And speaking of that last part, there has been evidence across the series that he has more than one way of ensuring the moolah keeps rolling in. We've seen him set up casinos, carnivals, Extreme Gear companies, newspaper factories, and other facilities to extend his reach. We've seen his robots mine for resources all over the world, and occasionally other worlds. We've seen him own a literal ocean of oil. We've even seen him sell his stripped down robots to chumps who don't know any better. For all his childish ways and penchant for plagiarizing the Death Star, he's surprisingly good at money management.
Then there's his specific approach to scheming and beating Sonic. Winning on its own is never enough for him: he wants to win on his terms, by doing things his way. So he might steal a shiny gem, but he'll use it to power the tech that he made. He might wake up a sleeping beast, but he'll have an Egg Carrier operating alongside it. The doc is always pulling his weight no matter the game, because if he didn't, how could he back up his self-admired intellect without it ringing hollow? You know he wouldn't be having that.
All of this goes a long way to explaining how he grew a knack for being so pro-active as a villain in the present day of the games proper. Instead of having it easy by being born an almighty superbeing, he had to work his way up using nothing but his brain. Because Dr. Eggman is a man with quite a few admirable qualities. Just a shame that morality is not one of them, no matter how much I've been gaslit by fans into believing otherwise.
His ego is his motive.
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Don't say it.
As we discussed, for all his manufactured admiration of his late grandad's genius, he doesn't mention him as often across the franchise as fans would lead you to believe. But you know which moustached gentleman he does mention a lot throughout the franchise...?
An overfilled sense of pride is to be expected for a pure villain. Regardless of their motive and their means to fulfill said motives, they're expected to think highly of themselves to some degree. But Eggman is not your everyday egotist: he IS the ego. Many villains have made statues of themselves, but how many do you know who have defaced historical monuments and plastered their visage on them? How many villains do you know who call half of their machines Egg Something? How many villains do you know who make up every single boss in more than one installment?
That's because Eggman's ego isn't just part of his character: it's the source of his drive. Everything he does, everything he wants to do, is fueled by how much he loves himself, and how displeased he is that the rest of the world does not feel the same way. He wants everyone to bow down to his excellence, he wants to conquer the world to satisfy his lust, and even that wouldn't keep him satiated forever, since evidence has shown that he would just make a grab for the whole universe if he got bored. He cannot picture a world where anyone else matters, because they're not him. Over the span of three decades, his inflated self-worth at the cost of everyone else's agency and wellbeing has not diminished one iota, and unless SEGA decides to pander hard to the Eggdad standom, this is not likely to change anytime soon.
Which leads me to my next point...
The consequences are irrelevant to him.
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Quote by Billy Mitchell.
Part of the recurring problem with Eggman being woefully mischaracterized as not such a bad guy when you get to know him is because people like to suggest that since he rarely shows outright sadism while committing his evil deeds (except this is also not true; see Tails' story in SA1, or the sheer ecstasy in his tone when he betrayed Emerl's trust in Battle), that means the results that spring from them are more excusable than the likes of Mephiles, Starline, Disney, etc.
Putting aside the fact that he's still willingly committing these deeds to begin with - with no regret at that - let's assume they mean in reference to ordinary citizens and the like. Now maybe it's true that he's not known to dedicate much of his career to making things personal with random nobodies. But let me ask you something: when he declared his intent to destroy Station Square with Chaos so he could build ROBOTNIKLAND THE ULTIMATE CITY WHERE I WILL RULE IT AAAALLLL COME ON CHAOS LET'S FIND ANOTHER EMERALD SHALL WE Eggmanland over its remains... did he say anything about letting the residents evacuate? Did he provide a means to help them evacuate?
What you need to keep in mind is that Eggman showing little interest goes both ways. He doesn't give any thought to these folk period. If his giant mech killed people who were in his way, or he fired a cannon at Whocaresville and the people living there didn't have time to get out of dodge, he's not going to shed a tear and call for a moment of silence. Because, as we've already established, the only person that matters is him. So long as he gets what he wants, and so long as there are still other people out there to worship him, what's the big deal if some kid is now without a parent or a home?
He is not a good master.
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"Also, I did create a vaccine. That's what you get for listening to our loving fans who hate us."
Well, at least he shows a more caring side to his creations, right? Sure... if you don't pay any attention to how it plays out onscreen.
My dude is certainly willing to shower his creations with high praise, but what advocates of Good Guy Eggman fail to note is that he praises them because he made them. An achievement for them is an achievement for him, because how would they be so brilliant and competent if it weren't for who built them that way? And you know what else? That praise conveniently only manifests when the creation is doing their job: the moment they fall short of his lofty standards, he flips like a switch. Can it truly be considered sincere and from the heart if he's that willing to turn on them that easily?
Of his many robotic stooges over the years, two that he held in high esteem were the E-Series and Metal Sonic. He made a show of tasking the former with an important mission, and the latter has been recognized repeatedly as one of his crowning masterpieces. And yet, all of the E-Series bar Gamma were discarded and essentially left to fend for themself in an unfamiliar world, with Beta being forcibly modified without a second thought. Gamma was only spared because, you guessed it, he was the one with a victory to his name. As for Metal Sonic, for all his longevity and special treatment, he too is not immune to punishment in the event of failure or disobedience.
And Infinite? His prized right-hand man during his six month conquest? Whisked away without a word after one bruh moment too many, followed by making a point to show off his own mastery over the (real) Phantom Ruby.
Needless to say, this is a stark contrast from the goofy dad you often see in fanart.
His will is equal to Sonic's.
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"I'm gonna have to reset, that was a practice run."
Being a regular human does not serve as a limitation for Eggman's status and capabilities, unless you're a hack writer who believes superficial power levels are the instant-win key to a good antagonist, or a well-crafted story in general. On paper, a hedgehog with Sonic's level of power should have dealt with this silly old man once and then never again. That happened with aliens. It happened with gods. It happened with talking ballsacks. Yet Eggman is still around. Despite being subjected to a wide selection of situations that should have Big Oof'd him, with Sonic normally not considering saving him from said perils a high priority, Eggman keeps surviving, and he keeps trucking on.
Why? Because main villain immunity, yes, but compared to Bowser the fire-breathing turtle, and Ganon the occasional boar-shaped demigod, a human scientist managing to persist for as long as he has is still impressive even without the out-of-universe justification. This detail of his character is even incorporated into his boss fights: the Egg Viper battle ends with a kamikaze attack. The Mega Death Egg Robot had a second machine stored inside it, keeping up where the fight left off as the first one conks out. S3&K in its entirety was practically dedicated to his absolute refusal to call it quits.
He doesn't give up. He never gives up. And he's not the type to piss his pants either. When the odds are stacked against him, he will either give it his all with much gnashing of teeth, or he'll retreat because it's the tactically sound thing to do. What he doesn't do is show fear and plead for his life. (Unleashed doesn't count, that was a Wily ploy.)
He hates Sonic.
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Or else he wouldn't have made this.
You would think this would go without saying. You have not spent enough time in the Sonic community. I wish I was you. (Then again, I met my friends through it...)
There are many people - many, many, many people - who will vehemently drill into your head with the trustworthy assurance of a SonicTuber that Dr. Eggman, arch-nemesis of Sonic the Hedgehog, world's longest Attempted Sonic Murderer champion, secretly likes the guy deep down, and would never wish for the Blue Blur to actually kick the bucket for good. They claim that when push comes to shove, the old doctor would never fully commit to world domination, because he simply enjoys his bouts with Sonic too much.
For X!Eggman? Probably.
Boom Eggman? Definitely.
Game Eggman? The Eggman? No.
Eggman hates Sonic. Eggman loathes Sonic, and he loathes the rest of his multicolored accomplices just as fiercely. The amount of times he has tried to bust a cap in Sonic's ass is plausibly in the triple digits. He has subjected Sonic to all kinds of threatening, terrifying situations with the explicit purpose of either killing him or hitting him where it hurts. He shows happiness when Sonic is in pain, or has appeared to have been vanquished by his efforts. What about any of this suggests that he likes him? Because of respect?
Now yes, that much is true. It's evident that Eggman respects Sonic as an opponent who can keep up with him, and it's true that he enjoys their battles to an extent. That's not the same thing as actually liking the guy on a personal level. For all the respect he may wield, he would still gladly rid himself of the hedgehog the first chance he gets. Remember the big moment in SA2 in which he launched Sonic into space? He bid his farewell, in a semi-mocking tone, then went right back to business like it was nothing. And what about Forces? What did he plan on doing with Sonic once he got bored of waving his victory in his enemy's face? That's right, he planned on slamming the red button on him. Sorry you had to find out this way, that's what happens when you don't Play The Game.
Ivo Robotnik is a jovial man, but his goals are dead serious. He wants his empire more than anything else in the world, and he will get it. For whatever thrills their encounters may provide, he would piss on Sonic's grave without a moment's hesitation in order to make progress with his ambitions. If he wasn't serious about taking over the world... why the fuck would he do all that he does? Do you really think he spends all that time researching ancient tablets because he wants to be Sonic's friend? Do you think he enslaves alien races because it's not like he likes Sonic or anything baka kawaii desu (please don't unfollow me, I won't do it again)? I don't think so, chum. There'd be no game, and no franchise, if Eggman wasn't coming up with ways to put him in an early grave. And then probably vandalize the grave after.
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If you understand all of these points, and if you can take to them, then I believe you should have what it takes to write a good, or even great, portrayal of Dr. Ivo "EDP445" Robotnik. No portrayal is going to be one-and-one with that of another, there'll always be subtle distinctions depending on the writer, but you'll be fine as long as he's not a softie or a fool who only exists to be replaced with a gay platypus.
Oh and, one last thing...
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Heroes manual lied to you. Sorry, English fandom.
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beevean · 7 months
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I'm interested in your views on Sonic as a character. Which games or other media stay true to his core character?
Sonic is cool :)
And I don't mean just cool in a "totally radical" way, or in a "look how awesome his feats are!" way. It's just... he's a friend. He's supportive and optimistic and a full believe in the Superpower of Teamwork™, cocky yet polite, helping others because that's just what he wants to do. Sonic has no moral code, he doesn't operate on hero logic: he does good because he wants to do good, it ain't that deep fam. This is why IDW's portrayal of his as someone who has strong principles about freedom is just OOC - it's not a principle! It's not something that holds him back! He will kick your ass and imprison you in a lamp for all eternity if you proved yourself to be unredeemable! But then you contrast this with how he rejects Tikal's plan of sealing Chaos in the Master Emerald again because that won't make its anger vanish. giving him a super lobotomy to calm it down worked, though
Secret Rings, Black Knight and Unleashed have probably my favorite portrayal of Sonic. The first one shows well his friendship with Shahra, how he put himself in harm's way for her as soon as he met her and got cursed on her behalf, how he could empathize with her and her ambiguous history with Erazor Djinn and didn't hold it against her for not being able to let go of him; the second one is nearly unanimously considered to be the best Sonic of all time, because it actually shows the freedom and strong will of his character, how he's willing to be "the bad guy" in a story if that means doing what he thinks is right, and his surprisingly poignant views on mortality; and as for the third one, his line "Do I need a reason to help out a friend?" is just him in a nutshell :)
Also, I'm still not fond of how they relegated him to wooden secondary character in '06, but I can't deny his relationship with Elise is cute for what little we see - he meets this girl who has been forced into the role of the reserved queen since she was 7 and he teaches her how to have fun and let go of her worries! And Elise is so inspired that at one point she jumps out of Eggman's Egg Mobile to get away from him! Sonic is just this strong positive influence on other people and it's just. ugh. he's so friend shaped <3
Of all adaptations, Sonic X is the one who got the closest to capture this - not surprising, since it's the only Japanese adaptation we have so far and it was the most closely supervised by Sonic Team. It's not perfect, it has its weird moments like Sonic manipulating his friends because he really wanted to get off a boat, but he's overall nice and supportive as he should be. Episode 14 is a must watch to get Sonic.
The OVA is nice too? A bit more dated, and Sonic is just a little more prickly, but other than that I have no issue with his character - the ending is a standout.
Anyway. Sonic is the character of all time. I love my boy so much, I've loved him since 2004. I will protect him against adaptations who think he has to be an arrogant jerkass or a funny little penis man to give him "depth" and "appeal".
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skaruresonic · 9 months
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My earliest memories of the VN are a little hazy because a lot has happened since then, but I'll try to share the bits and pieces that I do recall. ---
One of the first things I did was compile voice clips in order to have a comprehensive credits list. This included sifting through dialogue compilations. The characters' quotes then shaped ideas for plot beats and informed the kind of narrative it would become. In the earliest draft which... hadn't really been written at the time, but was 90% locked away in my head, the plan was to have Sonic help settle a dispute between Shadow and Rouge following a failed apprehension of some bank robbers. Their chapter would have paralleled Tails and Knuckles' in that two characters approach Sonic instead of just one. Not sure where their chapter would have fit into the overall narrative, but I'd guess around mid-afternoon, just before early evening, when Cream's chapter begins. I couldn't find anything viable in David Humphrey's voice clips, and Jason Griffith's sounded... for lack of a better word, a little too mean-spirited to use. It would have made Shadow seem as though he were raking Rouge over the coals instead of being a little annoyed and aloof. So then I was like, "Maybe I should set this aside for now." Eventually, as Knuckles', Cream's, and Amy's chapters grew in size, I decided it would have dragged the plot out for too long to include Shadow and Rouge's story, and hence cut it. --- The first draft was supposed to have the player take Sonic's place instead of Eggman. The implication being that Eggman somehow separated Sonic's sprite from his dialogue variable and is attempting to control Sonic's "shell" through manipulating the player. As time went on, I realized this was a difficult concept to convey properly. It would have also probably broken immersion to dictate the player's reaction after rendering them a silent entity for most of the game. That's why the switch was then changed to a more direct one between Sonic and Eggman. The player is instead given silent involvement where ultimately their say matters more than Sonic's or even Eggman's. The act of choice demonstrates the sheer power imbalance that exists between the characters and the player who directs them. ---
Eggman's "bad ending" speech was the first thing I worked on, which took about 15 minutes to speedread (so... maybe 30 minutes of regular reading?). It's not "truly" present in the current version of the game, though part of it is there in some form; it just requires a little digging to find. About half of the original speech is preserved in base64 when Sonic's dialogue gets deleted and replaced with barcode. You can see the base64 in the script. During the Good ending where everyone shows up to the surprise party, Sonic calls back to this speech. Eggman is confused because this implies Sonic can read his narration despite several layers of encryption, mirroring Eggman's ability to read Sonic's narration. --- The rave cave was originally supposed to take place at Amy's house, when Eggman would have flooded the place with raving Egg Pawns. All that hawt robot mosh pit action would have carried Sonic out the door and tossed him onto the lawn.
--- The final game has just two routes and many looping choices. A third route where the graphics driver fails, causing Sonic and co.'s sprite textures to fail to load, and an angry overworked Eggman assigning you the task of retrieving the lost textures before the end of the workday got scrapped as well.
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I find it funny that Eggman's boom design basically is an egg turned upside down. It has total wtf vibes and doesn't fit the character, but like... you gotta admire the stupidity.
Yeah I still find that the funniest and weirdest way for them to attempt to make the Eggman name still make sense for him, it's not easily noticable and could've been randomly decided after. There's not really any real reason for him to be named Eggman aside from being bald, Sonic calling him Egghead at first actually made more sense lol.
Plus we don't even know why he has the name Eggman within the Boom universe, it seems too randomly specific for Sonic to call him that like he did with modern Eggman for "looking like an upside down Egg." So how else could he have gotten it? It's also strange how little egg references and relation he has in other ways too, such as how he titles creations ___bot instead of Egg ____
But it's not as bad as the movie Robotnik getting the name Eggman because of small barely egg shaped drones and a ship, so I gotta give them that 💀
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Zobotnik and Boom Eggman both sit in between Casino Egg's legs while all three are in nothing but their underwear. Zobotnik and Boom Egg kiss and feel up each other's perfect toned muscular bodies and Casino Egg is only allowed to watch, so he can get an idea of what they got up to together while they were away. His eyes dart excitedly all over both as they get naughty for his entertainment and they look so perfect loving each other up, hands all over each other. He gets achingly hard but they don't touch him like that at any point.
He tries to grind up into them as he gets desperately horny and begs them to let him touch them, for them to touch him, and for them to fuck him but his huge belly is in the way of his cock, so he's just embarrassingly pushing his fat up to them instead. Zobotnik grabs and squishes the fat and tells him the way he's struggling is so pathetic and cute. He also reaches under his rolls of fat to only briefly grab and squeeze his hard cock and tease him for getting off to this but doesn't pull down his boxer briefs and that gets him even more worked up.
They like to watch him desperately shift in his seat with the wet spot of precum soaking it and he still can't grind up into them because his huge belly is in the way, so he's just pathetically humping them with his pure soft fat instead of even an inch of his cock. Zobotnik pokes a bit of fun at it as he grabs and jiggles the rolls of fat. He starts whimpering and groaning about how he's supposed to always get what he wants like the spoiled boy he's always been but they just tell him to hush because he knows he loves the teasing as much as they do.
They say this is why he's become so greedy and fat and eating so much, this is what he wanted and he can't complain now, he needs to accept everything that comes with it. Which includes him being a pathetically helpless fatty that has to watch them get it on without him because he's too fat to hump them! They keep laughing and teasing, especially Zobotnik the harshest and Casino Egg can't deny he loves the humiliation and denial of pleasure. When they think he's waited long enough and he whines and pleads for it cutely, they finally do more.
They finally start to grab, shake, and kiss his huge fat belly and tits and squeeze his huge fat ass. They touch anything but his cock which makes him whine because he's so needy but he enjoys the love they give to the rest of his body. Both of their hands on him at the same time, suddenly overstimulating his erogenous zones after denying him of it makes him moan and sigh in pure delight. They reduce him to a horny mess with drool trickling down his chin, trembling with his mind clouded with lust. It's a biggest fantasy come true.
He gets lost in the bliss of having his big fat body played with and kissed by two gorgeous toned and muscular men sitting between his legs that are into each other too, it makes him feel so giddy and dizzy and like such a lucky man. When they finally let him feel them up, he shivers and groans at the feeling of their perfect shape and contours under his hands and it drives him crazy. They're perfecting their bodies and getting so muscular and fit while he's ruining his, or as he likes to see it, improving it the opposite way by getting out of control fat.
He loves feeling their flat stomachs and strong firm bodies pressing against his wonderfully soft huge fat belly that squishes against them. Even better with the added pressure of him being pretty full while they sink into his glorious fat. After they play with him while he plays with them, he finally cums hands free and it's the perfect relief from how worked up he was and they tease him for cumming to it. He loves the intensity and he's left totally blissed out. He promises he'll keep getting bigger for them if they do more of this.
They always know they've done a good job when he manages to cum hands free and it blows his mind every time. He loves his boys so much that even just seeing them play with each other and leave him out of it to tease him really does it for him too and even it's even better when they finally both love him up after and let him put his hands all over them while teasing him playfully. He loves them so much and they love their cute big fatty that's absolutely crazy about them 🥰💜
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Sonic Wolf 6 Profiles: Jack the Wolf
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Well, this blog's recent glut of pornbot followers are about to get a shock.
So basically, part of the reason I wanted a Tumblr is to have an outlet for fanfic stuff. I just don't think Twitter cares that much, even if I do try to promote it there.
But of course, I needed to let some context and backlog build, so it's only NOW getting fanfic posts.
Nobody will care about these except for me, but I still want to post some behind the scenes and lore stuff about my ongoing Sonic fanfic series: Wolf 6. It's free, and it's for fun, just like all of my fanfics!
So, why are they called Wolf 6? Because I suck at naming things and couldn't think of a better name.
I might do some stuff on the individual stories if I don't feel that the character stuff intertwines with it enough, but some of this stuff(like my Shadow Android storyline I wanna do at some point)needs the full context to build. Now that "Now and Then" is out, though, I think some focus posts on the main three(I've been thinking of dubbing them "Team Wolf," but that sounds kinda uninspired)and their Wolf 6 teammates are finally ready to go, starting with the patriarch of this bizzaro family, Jack the Wolf.
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Name: Jack the Wolf
Age: 21
Bio: Jack was a fairly normal wolf before the Eggman War. A master chef and overall positive person, you would never think that he'd be one for war, much less leading a team into fierce battle. However, during Infinite's first strike, he lost the love of his life, Sarah. After that, his entire personality shifted. He became cold and distant, donning a facemask and goggles to hide his emotions on the battlefield, leading the Resistance Unit, Wolf 6, on the toughest jobs. Now retired after the war, he lives with Cyber and Raccoon in the Mystic Ruins. In battle, he uses a Void Wispon, and also wields an energy blade gifted to him by former teammate Edge, which can easily sweep through Badniks for a short period after unsheathing, or can be swung to absorb enemy fire, and send it back to them in a large wave.
Please stifle your laughter at my oh-so edgy OC.
So Jack has an interesting creation history. You see, he was the OC I made when I first played Sonic Forces, which yes, is where I make all of my Sonic OCs. It's cheaper than hiring an artist that I can't afford(and to be clear, they deserve that money I don't have. I just don't have the money).
His look developed naturally as I played the game, with the black and white battle suit, accented with yellow here and there. His face mask and goggles giving him a mysterious visage. The only thing I added when he became an actual character was the cowboy hat to make his look more complete.
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But of course, this just begs the question: Why a wolf? And why is he red?
Because the wolf avatars in Forces have the ring attract ability, and red is my favorite color. That's literally the only reason. May have thought subtly of the Gadget OC config, but I don't remember.
Anyway, these pictures actually omit a small detail that's in the stories. This happens a lot with the Forces OCs, so get used to it.
Basically, he has a black utility belt, Batman style, and a sheath on his back for his energy sword. I've used MS Paint to highlight the general shape of these details in red.
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Ah yes, you may have noticed the energy blade. Basically, I felt that purely having him wield his Void Wispon(chosen because Void is my favorite Wisp)was very bland and not Sonic-like, especially since a theme of Jack's character is that he's just a regular dude caught up in all of the weirdness of Sonic canon. He wants to spend a lovely evening with his cyborg girlfriend and adopted feral child, but he needs the power to keep up in a world of super-sonic hedgehogs and egg-themed despots.
Anyway, the energy blade stays fairly short when not energized. It's barely even sharp. However, it lengthens when energized and activated(for short bursts, to keep it from being TOO OP), displaying a rainbow effect similar to one of the pictures below. That effect is because I thought it would look cool in the non-existent art of it in action.
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But of course, that's him in battle, how does he look OFF of the battlefield?
He's naked, that's what.
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(Btw, don't take that wrist launcher and those shoes as canon. Forces limitations)
(Also, Jack is DEFINITELY a fuzzy slippers guy)
As mentioned before, Jack's just a normal dude with deep-ass war trauma trying to live his life as normally as possible. He doesn't want to wear anything special. Heck, the only reason he started wearing the battlesuit was so he'd always be able to make the sacrifice after what happened with OnePunch in a scene depicted at the beginning of "Those who left us behind." I think this first death is where he started clinging to any sense of normalcy, to the point of not wanting to kick Edge off of the team when it was obvious he needed to be kicked off. But of course, that's just some internal logic, so it may read differently to you.
For those curious, here's what he was wearing in that scene.
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And while we're here, here's a reference mock-up I made back in the day of the outfit he was wearing in the third story of "3 Tales of the Chaotix."
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Fun fact, in the original draft of that story, Cyber gave his ass a playful smack before winking at him. I toned it down in the final edit, but I figured I'd mention it here so y'all would know that I'm not COMPLETELY asexual.
Anyway, a recent retcon to Jack's civilian form is facial scars and a damaged right eye. I avoided this in the initial version of "Prototypes," since I didn't want to come off as an edgelord, but as a writer, I've grown to accept the fact that I am, in fact, an edgelord, so scars he gets in my signature MS Paint fashion.
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Also, I chose to damage his right eye because I'm missing my right eye IRL. I think he can actually see a bit out of his, though. It at least perceives light to some degree.
He also gained a new permanent scar on his right arm and hand from the final battle in "Those who left us behind," btw. I'll try to bring it up in story at some point, but for now that's just lame-ass Tumblr lore.
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And so, that's Jack. If you read through this all, and decided it interests you, here are some story links:
The full Wolf 6 collection on A03: https://archiveofourown.org/series/2802334
A Tumblr textpost made to promote Then and Now: https://www.tumblr.com/benis-chillin/698601893325389824/a-regular-run-of-the-mill-ambush
Alright, I'll see you guys next time I decide to upload these for best girl, Cyber the Canary! Take care!
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Sonic Quilford AU Custom "Arcs" 2
Yes, I have more ideas! Including one I'm going to retcon in to previous actions! Yay!
(In between Metal Virus and Belle, but like, right after the final fight in Metal Virus) Rush Return: After ridding his world of the Metal Virus with help from Silver, the Warp Topaz backfired and sent the tired 17yo to the Elemental Dimension, stranding Sonic there. Thus, Sonic and Blaze have to figure someway to get him home before Robotnik tries anything. All the while, everyone in the Chaos dimension is scrambling and a certain purple-wearing warlock is stirring up trouble in the background. How is everyone else handling the information that Sonic's fallen into Blaze's dimension? Why won't the Elemental Citrines send Sonic back this time? Just what did the Chaos Emeralds do?
You know it, I know it, Sonic's visit to Blaze's dimension at the end of the Metal Virus arc is... Troublesome. The amnesia thing didn't even go anywhere! It was just "Hi Mr. Needlemouse. Bye Sonic". Better can be done. Thus, it gets its own arc! Sonic and Blaze have a great dynamic, and Egglock/Clay Melongenik isn't anything to sneeze at either, even if that's just from tertiary decisions in relation to musical song parodies in my head and fully making Eggman Nega Silver's nemesis.
(Time Jump Fair after Story Whirlwind) Clans of Chaos: After Espio agrees to a request from his mother to come home, Eggman strikes with a new set of hired mercenaries, including a few who look awful similar to the Chaotix's resident ninja. Just how close is Espio to this new group of enemies? How has a regular Eggman plot gotten G.U.N. involved? And what did Mrs. Matofore mean by "new governor"?
Since Espio's a trained ninja with family, I figured it'd be a disservice in hiding them from the audience. So, we get an arc about them! This has a few scenes I really can't decide how I want to portray them, because I see them so vibrantly in my head. Especially a very climactic fight near the climax.
(Time Jump Far after Clans of Chaos) A Rose Built With Any Other Scrap: After a fraught night of bedtime stories, muddled directives, and inventing, Metal Sonic now has a partner to keep him in line, due to him slowly wriggling out of his obedience programing. All the while, the Egg Carrier's return to the shores of Station Square brings Sonic back, so the Scrapniks have a friendly face to greet them. How will Metal feel about Mecha? Who is Metal's new restraining bolt? And with it being her home, just who will drag Amy Rose into this?
Considering how Metal can be, I don't think Robotnik just, programming him to obey his every command and not rebel is going to work forever. Case in point, Gamma. Ergo, combining with what I decide are canon ships for the AU, a Metal Amy. Of course, someone prefers the original and won't accept a replacement. Also, the Scrapniks! They weren't in my original idea for this arc, but I figured with the name that it would make sense to let them show up.*
(Sidenote, but Mecha looks wonderful in brown.)*
(Time Jump Far after Sonic's 19th Birthday) Sonic and the Apotosian Dream: After getting invited to see Amy in a play along with Tails and Team Chaotix, Sonic ends up getting dragged off the Fae's Domain in Apotos. What with Theseus' tumultuous wedding-to-be with Hippolyta, Oberon and Titania fighting, and the two couples getting lost in the woods, Sonic's going to have much more on his hands than a lost ticket or two!
Custom Storybook game, baby! As for what's being adapted, why none other than Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream"! As per usual, there's doppelgangers, a way you could say the story never happened, and missions, missions, missions! I'm still working on the outline, but I'll probably talk about this more in the future.
(Time Jump Fair after SatAd) Curiosity of Ages: As time marches on, a certain egg-shaped doctor begins wondering just where in his past he went wrong, and realizing he'll soon be 52, inspiration strikes him. Thanks to the Egg Chicken, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream, Rouge, Vector, Charmy, Mighty, and Ray all end up with their ages swapped around. With Tails, Cream, and Charmy now being the oldest of the group, problems arise further. Can the adults and teen keep their cool now that they've returned to their youths? Can the three kids handle the responsibility of being the front line?
Considering all the ages of the Sonic cast, this kinda feels like it was coming for a while. If I could pick any of my concepts to send to SEGA to be made canon, it would be this idea. Having the youngest members of the cast suddenly being the oldest would be fascinating, along with its flipside. Add a flashback or two... The regular.
(Time Jump Fair after Curiosity of Ages) Scrambled Stories Over Easy: After learning of the events surrounding Starline's death last January, Robotnik nabs the three books emanating with World Energy, leading to encounters of the selves, so it seems. Time seems ready to run out as Sonic has to get everyone back where they belong. Will the crossing of worlds confuse literally everyone? How many people will get called the wrong thing by Sonic? Just how long do they have before everyone gets reamed?
I am forever convinced that the Storybook games are real, and actually happened. Sonic does know a genie, is King Arthur's counterpart(as in this AU, there is a REAL Arthur Pennquilon), and did end up with unwanted romantic affections from the Queen of the Faeries(Sonic's role in SatAD is, loosely, Bottom's). As such, we can get 4 Tails(Miles, Ali Baba, Smithy, and Cobweb) in the same room! What more can you want?
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theultim · 7 months
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I kinda started a project where I re-write like. 99.99% of Sonic Forces and I realized for this to work right I'm gonna need a lot of input from a lot of other people for this.
It's gonna be a huge project, that I kinda already acknowledged/realized when I started formatting it out on Obsidian. It's just gonna be in written form since I'm not confident in my art whatsoever. My current estimate for this is maybe a year or two until I'm maybe fully done? I'm not concerned about what platform(s) it'll be available on since I purposefully don't tag my posts 80% of the time.
I'm very storyline centered, so I want to know what people liked/disliked about it, the characters, and the pacing. What do you think could've been done better? What do you think is pretty important? This will help me shape out my drafts for the characters and story I want to tell better. I personally have only played SA2 (Not to completion) and I might be able to get Sonic Frontiers this weekend! So yes, that does mean I've never played Sonic Frontiers. My friend has though; And I've watched a no commentary compilation of the game.
I personally noticed a big trend when it comes to Sonic games, where they basically reset the progress the characters have made in previous games to the point where they're no longer able to be self-reliant. That's another reason why I want other people to have input in this project of mine! (It also keeps me open to new ideas!)
Honestly, I couldn't tell what Sonic Forces' goal was, storyline-wise. It was a headache for me to watch because of all of the time jumping back and forth. I can find/create ways to justify characters like Shadow and Silver being in this game, I'm just upset there wasn't one given to the viewers in the actual game.
I don't want to take too much from the IDW comics/other media. The main exception to this that I've made is using NebrocRock's renders of The Jackal Squad to help give Infinite just a bit more story to work with. (And me some characters to work with. For Infinite.)
Some ideas on locations! We only really see Green Hill and the Death Egg, with only a mention of Seaside Hill. (And that. City or whatever. I don't know its name) If Eggman took over the whole world, what would that consist of?
And on character development/inclusion.
There is literally no character development in this except for the Avatar. Speaking of, I still want to include them and the other two game renders they have! (Which are bird and cat. I've named then Rotary and Javelin! Might change though.) Avatar will stay as the "MC" with the other two being sides. I'm not gonna do some y/n stuff though, because they actually have stuff going on.
We only really see the Chaotix Squad, Team Dark.... AND SILVER? FOR SOME REASON??
Anyways, if there's characters you'd want included in something like this, say who and why! (And characters you'd make changes to)
I'll be tagging posts in relation to this project with Sonic Frontiers Remixed! (Since that's what I've been calling it in my docs.) I'm not sure what else to add to this post, so I'll be ending it here. If you need more examples of what kind of information I'm trying to gather, feel free to ask! And if you already have some ideas you'd like to share, please do!
I honestly really do think Sonic Frontiers is worthy of this project. Its plot is vague enough for me to fuck around with it, while also having key points in the story.
(Reblog would be appreciated on this one [1] post, I'm gonna need all the input/help that I can with this)
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thankskenpenders · 4 years
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So, about the movie...
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At long last, a week after it came out, I was finally able to see the Sonic movie. The Daytona 500 being held across the street from my favorite theater and conflicting work schedules had been keeping me away, but now I’ve finally seen it. And it was...
Decent!
Which is way, way, way, way, way better than a movie with this awful premise has any right being. That’s for damn sure. I enjoyed my time at the theater. I don’t know how they did it, but they did it. If you like Sonic and haven’t already seen it, you will probably get a kick out of this film. If you don’t like Sonic (or Jim Carrey), there is very little in this movie for you
Okay, now that that’s out of the way, it’s time to break that whole movie down. This will contain full spoilers for the Sonic movie
This movie kinda gave me deja vu because it’s set up so similarly to the Bumblebee movie. Both open with a slavishly faithful CGI sequence on another planet to ensure long time fans that the creative team gives a shit, but a conflict sends the title character to Earth. There, they form an emotional bond with the human lead as they’re pursued by the bad guys, who are working with the US government and tracking the energy signature of the title character. This setup worked extremely well for Bumblebee, because it’s so similar to the usual plot of Transformers. For Sonic, it was... a mixed bag. But it worked better than I expected
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(This shot does not happen in the movie.)
That opening though, huh? Green Hill Zone looked great, and I was pleasantly surprised to see they did, in fact, use the Hyper Potions track from Sonic Mania in the actual film. (The piano rendition of the Green Hill theme used later was also lovely.) Longclaw was also interesting. I’ve seen one person bring up all the bird-themed ruins in Sonic 1 and 2 as a possible source of inspiration for the character, and I think that’s a valid take. And man, the echidnas! I wasn’t expecting that AT ALL. I guess that was probably the Knuckles Clan or something? I would never, ever picture them being alive during Sonic’s lifetime, but like... I guess Knuckles had to come from somewhere, right? If they do another movie with Knuckles, will the rest of his kind have died out?
Sadly, though, this sequence felt like it was over in a heartbeat. We barely see Sonic’s life on his home planet, and we’re expected to feel emotional over Longclaw’s sacrifice when she only gets like three lines before Sonic is sent to Earth. This is a common theme with the film--it goes for these big emotional beats that it just does not earn with its rapid fire pacing
Anyway, then we fast forward and Sonic’s a teen. This is actually kind of an interesting one if you’re constantly neck deep in Sonic Character Analysis like me, because it’s a pretty different take on the character. It’s hard to give them credit for doing something somewhat fresh with the character, though, because like... how much of that was intentional, and how much was just Hollywood writers trying to squeeze a generic action-adventure movie out of Sonic? (Honestly, it’s probably mostly the latter.)
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The closest other piece of Sonic media to the movie would probably be Sonic X, a story in which Sonic isn’t really the protagonist. The Sonic of the anime is fairly emotionally distant. He cares deeply about his friends, and does nice things for them, but he’s totally fine with running off on his own for extended lengths of time, and he doesn’t really talk about his feelings. He’s not the character the audience is meant to sympathize with, but is instead this cool older kid who Chris wants to impress. This is pretty much in line with how Sega likes to depict the character. He cares about his friends, but he’s also cool with being a loner. It feels like he only runs into them incidentally, usually when Eggman is causing trouble, and then when the crisis of the week is taken care of he’s back to going on his own adventures. There’s a reason why one of his catchphrases is “long time no see”
The Sonic of the movie is the polar opposite. His main conflict is that he’s lonely and desperately seeks friendship. He’s also an overly-eager, extremely earnest goober. He literally flosses twice. (Which I loved.) I’ve seen him compared to Silver, and honestly, that’s not a bad comparison. I did like it, though! I don’t mind Sonic being a more emotionally open character, like he was in a lot of older Western media. I mean, he cried in like the second or third episode of SatAM
It’s just that, like many things in the movie, it feels less like a deliberate creative choice and more like a logical string of decisions to make when writing a generic action-adventure film for general audiences. Sonic’s the only one of his kind on Earth, so of course he’d be lonely. He has to have some sort of arc for audiences to connect with him, and if he’s gotta be accompanied by James Marsden for the whole movie, well, his arc’s gotta be about them becoming friends
I’ve gotta say, though: Ben Schwartz is great as Sonic. As much as I like Roger Craig Smith, I wouldn’t complain if he became the new main voice of the character. And thanks to the redesign, he looked great. I can’t imagine how nightmarish this movie would’ve been if Sonic wasn’t cute
My main fear with this movie, though, was that Sonic wouldn’t really be the protagonist. As a fan of Transformers, I know all too well that the cost of doing a full CGI character usually means that said character can’t really be the star of the film. Optimus and Bumblebee aren’t the stars of the Transformers movies--they’re supporting characters who are primarily present for the sake of the action scenes. The humans are the real stars in those movies, and the robots are barely even characters. I was terrified that Sonic would be the same, with the actual character I paid to see taking a backseat to James Marsden The Cop
I’m not quite sure if they struck the right balance there, but they did better than I worried they would. Sonic is central enough to the film and gets enough screentime that you can easily say he’s the protagonist. BUT there is absolutely too much of Tom and his family. The human cast is fine, the performances are fine, and there were a few good jokes, but every time the movie tried to get me to care about Tom’s life I was bored out of my mind. It’s just so trite and passionless. The other characters barely felt fleshed out at all, including Tom’s girlfriend (wife?) and Agent Stone. The little girl who gives Sonic the shoes had some cute moments, though
I do, however, love the part in which James Marsden is walking around in a San Francisco t-shirt, to remind us that he’s planning on moving to San Francisco... which then becomes the excuse for Sonic to think about San Francisco and accidentally send his warp rings there, which becomes the excuse for the buddy road trip aspect of the film. And as much as that was a focus of the marketing, the actual road trip part is like... maybe 20 minutes of the movie? There’s like three scenes with Sonic and Tom on the road and then they’re in San Francisco for act 3. The movie tries to act like they’ve formed this deep bond and I just did not give a shit. I don’t care about the cop. All Cops Are Bastards, and that absolutely includes Tom, whose dream in life is to join the extremely corrupt San Francisco PD
The whole excuse for Sonic having to sit in the passenger seat of a car going the speed limit for a good chunk of the movie is also, just. Stupid. If he doesn’t know where San Francisco is and time is of the essence, just... give him a map?
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And then there’s Jim Carrey. I was worried about this one. The previews tended to highlight his most Jim Carrey Being Wacky moments, and as fond as I am of movies like The Truman Show and Bruce Almighty, that’s just. That’s not Robotnik. I was pleasantly surprised by the actual movie, though! I thought he was pretty good. I’m not sure what incarnation of Eggman I’d most compare him to, but like... it was close enough, and he was entertaining enough. I’d pay to go see another movie with him as Robotnik. Sure. (Especially with how he was looking at the end of the film.)
There were some other little interesting tidbits here with Eggman, although again, a lot of that is less “let’s do a new take on Eggman” and more “let’s do a marketable movie with Eggman in it, which requires us to explain some stuff.” Like him straight up just being a normal human from Earth, with none of the confusion present in the current “two worlds” canon of the games. Or him apparently being an orphan who was bullied in school, and who trusts machines more than other humans. It’s a safe way to depict the character in a Hollywood movie, but I thought it worked
The way they got to his nickname was kind of funny, though. Like, obviously they didn’t put Jim Carrey in a fat suit, and thank god for that. So instead of mocking his weight, the nickname is derived from the egg-shaped robots he uses. Which made sense, I guess. It at least felt logical for this incarnation of Sonic, who had annoyingly been calling Tom “Donut Lord” the whole movie, to make up the nickname “Eggman.” (Said robots, by the way, were a weak point of the movie to me. They just didn’t have that Eggman whimsy and felt very safe and very Hollywood. Honestly, though, if they had just made Robotnik’s ship grey and slapped some hazard stripes on it, it’d probably be fine.)
As a whole, I thought the humor of the movie was... okay. Sonic had a lot of good moments thanks to Schwartz’s great performance, as did Robotnik. There were just so many weird lines, like James Marsden telling Robotnik that he was breast fed, or the agonizingly long child trafficking joke with Sonic in the duffel bag. Stuff like that
The action was great, though. They definitely owe a lot to the Quicksilver scene in that one X-men movie (I forget the one), but they had a lot of fun with Sonic’s powers and it felt extremely true to the character. Seeing him do one of his Smash poses during the San Francisco fight was great. The action scenes were an absolute delight
And then the ending. Oh, that ending
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So, I had already heard that Tails shows up in the stinger before I saw the film. And when I heard that, I expected it to be like, the classic Tails origin story. Maybe Sonic would return to his planet, and run into this precocious kid who decides to follow him around... but no! Not at all! Tails is already the Tails we know and love. He’s already an inventor, he’s already tracking down Sonic. I’m shocked that Sonic actually stayed with Tom instead of running off to have new adventures, but hopefully this is a sign that more characters will be brought into the fray if they make a sequel
And boy, they better make that damn sequel. This movie had a great opening weekend and a positive reception. They have no excuse not to. GIVE US SONIC AND TAILS GOING ON AN ADVENTURE
Other stray thoughts
Holy shit they put Sanic in the movie
The Sega logo animation meant that Kiryu from Yakuza was in this movie for a few seconds
The pixel art credits sequence, which featured both the Sonic 2 special stage and Get Blue Spheres as well as the Eggman logo screens from the Studiopolis Zone boss, was cute
The Saturn logo could be seen on the diagram of the other habitable planets
Robotnik had a label for “Badniks” on his circuit breaker. I wonder if the drones in the movie are intended to be Badniks, or if we’ll see actual ones if a sequel gets made
Also, was it implied that Robotnik committed war crimes for the US government
One of the government guys who I think only got one line was played by Garry Chalk and as such sounded exactly like Optimus Primal
I can’t tell if Sonic getting a red race car bed was an intentional shout out to the Archie comics or if it’s just a coincidence, but I loved it
A dude about my age wearing a Sonic Mania t-shirt literally stood up and clutched his head in shock when Tails showed up
After the movie a very excited kid got his mom to take his photo with the Sonic display in the lobby. Afterwards he was so excited that he flossed
I can’t believe they talked about Olive Garden so much
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mobius-prime · 4 years
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285. Sonic Universe #12
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Knuckles: The Return (Part 4 of 4): Echoes of the Past (Part Four)
Writer: Ian Flynn Pencils: Tracy Yardley! Colors: Jason Jensen
Things are certainly dire, as both teams of heroes (minus Julie-Su and Ray, still up on Angel Island) have been captured by Finitevus and the local Dark Egg Legion chapter. Finitevus gloats about how well his plan has gone, that he found the Legion when he was investigating the very same ruins that had Knuckles so confused, and from there orchestrated an alliance between himself and them, so they could capture Angel Island for Eggman/the Iron Queen's regime and Finitevus could study the Master Emerald at his leisure. After monologuing a bit at the furious Knuckles, he takes his leave to go oversee Angel Island being reeled back into the Great Crater, something which… really should be more stunning to everyone involved, if you ask me. I mean, literally the past several centuries of echidna history have been irrevocably shaped by exactly this concept, returning the island to the planet's surface. Dimitri did his whole godhood insanity thing entirely because people didn't agree with his plan to set this in motion, and perhaps even more importantly, his plan was shown to have failed in an alternate timeline, causing the island to crash into the earth and kill everyone on it. Apparently, this entire time they shoulda just been using regular ol' chains to do the job! Imagine after so many hundreds of years of this being an issue, Finitevus really did just accomplish the task with some random chains. But anyway, Finitevus leaves the prisoners to the overwatch of Bill, who so far hasn't said a word during Finitevus' speech despite his former friends being among the imprisoned.
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Oh no! Whatever horrible tortures are about to befall our heroes? The torture of having their shackles fall off harmlessly, as it turns out. Yeah, of course Bill didn't just turn evil for no reason! Though he does appear to have some beef with Vector, remarking angrily that he'd have preferred if Vector stayed chained up. Man, what in the world did Vector do in the past that pissed off so many people? Barby demands an explanation, with her dialogue vaguely hinting that she and Bill were possibly involved romantically, so Bill explains that several months ago when Eggman began pushing in this region, the other platypuses decided they wanted a little taste of that power and began demanding to join up. Bill couldn't talk them down, so instead, he went to Eggman and voluntarily joined his cause, becoming outfitted with cybernetics along with the other platypuses, hoping to manage the situation from within. Apparently he never found a chance to tell his former teammates that he wasn't actually evil after all, but he's been doing his best to mismanage the campaign in Downunda without seeming too suspicious. Everyone is pleased and relieved, and he urges them to quickly make their escape so he can play it off as having been overpowered while separated from his backup. Thrash happily obliges, and reveals his own special power - yelling so loudly that it can break down doors. The fight against the Legion in the crater quickly commences, but Walt encourages Knuckles to head back to his island while they carry on the fight here on the ground. Vector can't see a way to get back up without their warp ring, but Mighty apparently has an idea of his own.
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I just need everyone here to remember that according to canon measurements, this island floats forty-three miles (69 km) in the sky. Yes, I realize that's only the case because Penders didn't create his units of measurements with sanity in mind. No, that does not mean I'm ever letting this fact go. It's also worth noting that this entire arc portrays the crater as not looking much bigger than like, a mile across at the most, but the island is forty-seven miles (75 km) across at its narrowest. I mean, we already knew that no one pays attention to matters of scale in these comics, but still, I notice, and it bugs me to no end. Consistency, people!
Anyway, Mighty tosses Knuckles alllll the way up to the island, as the fight continues to rage on the ground, and he hops up over the edge just as Finitevus is about to put his grubby hands on the Master Emerald. No sign of Julie-Su or Ray anywhere, huh? Knuckles is immediately ready for a fight, but Finitevus tries to talk him down, actually apologizing for forcing him into the role of Enerjak before. Knuckles still isn't buying it, but then Finitevus hits him with the bug guns - Dimitri actually wasn't the first Enerjak. Finitevus claims to know everything about the echidnas' history, the fact that Enerjak goes back much further in their history, the true history of Albion, the origins of the mysterious ruins in the desert, even some secret about Aurora and how she may not even be a real goddess. Knuckles is clearly torn for a split second, because damn are those some juicy-sounding secrets, but he's shaken back to reality when Finitevus tries to pull the "We're two of a kind, you and I" trick and promises, if he joins him, to give him "anything he wants." And what does Knuckles want?
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Finitevus is not amused by Knuckles' defiance, and turns the fight around on him while mocking his childish desires. Hilariously, he actually does the cool-guy thing of catching Knuckles' punch in his own hand, which seems badass until you realize we're talking about the guy with spikes on his fists. I can only assume Ian forgot this little detail, or else the rest of this issue would just be Finitevus yelling in agony at the two brand-new holes that had been punched into the palm of his hand. Knuckles powers up with the energy of the nearby Master Emerald, while Finitevus summons his… I dunno, dark black evil-guy energy or whatever, and they go head to head, Knuckles reciting Tikal's prayer for strength, while Finitevus puts a new twist on the same chant.
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I actually don't get Ian's fascination with Tikal's prayer at all. It's always recited verbatim from the version of it in Sonic Adventure, but personally, I always felt like it was strangely translated in that game, not really making a ton of grammatical sense, or any real sense at all, really. I mean, the chant was originally just supposed to describe the relationship between the Master Emerald and the Chaos Emeralds, but that's not relevant at all in this universe given the vastly different origins of both - the Master Emerald in the comics isn't a direct counter to the Chaos Emeralds like in the games, but one giant Chaos Emerald itself. I dunno, maybe this is just a nitpick, but it still confuses me.
Finitevus is impressed by Knuckles' display of raw power, but decides to end the fight quickly, and pulls out one of his warp rings, encircling it around Knuckles midsection and happily threatening to close it while Knuckles is still only halfway through. However, at that moment Julie-Su finally makes her entrance and shoots Finitevus in the shoulder, distracting him long enough for Knuckles to grab him and make good on his promise to throw him off his island. That doesn't seem like a proper solution to this threat at all, but eh, whatever, Knux is happy with it I guess. He, Julie-Su, and Ray all head back down to the crater, where the Downunda Freedom Fighters have finished running the Legion off for now, and say their goodbyes. Barby makes a remark that her father would have been proud of Vector, hinting at yet more unexplored history between him and the others, but he still refuses to explain further when Ray tries to pry. Thrash leaves through a warp ring of his own, making some odd comments about how it would be such a shame if the rest of the echidnas were to be wiped out - this guy really doesn't like echidnas for whatever reason - and with the threat settled, Knuckles and his friends finally head back onto Angel Island for some peaceful rest.
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Yeah, gee Vector, I wonder why no one found a body? I mean, it's not like Finitevus has demonstrated that he can warp himself to safety mid-fall during literally the previous big battle against him or anything. Of course, he's safe and sound, and heads back to the crater once it's clear to watch the island's departure and muse to himself how his plans aren't through yet and he's ready to kill Knuckles when he next gets the chance - anything to put him closer to the Master Emerald. Let us know how your quest to off one of the comic's most popular characters goes, buddy!
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the-alien-enby · 5 years
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Metonic Week- Machine
Metal had only been a part of Sonic’s team for a short while, after abandoning his own creator due to difficulties. Sonic had gladly accepted his metallic copy on his team, but as for Tails, Knuckles, and Amy, they weren’t entirely on board with it. Metal even knew this, but as Sonic had asked of him, he tried not to think too much of it. After all, he had so many other things to worry about. Like what if Eggman tries to control him again? What if he somehow leads his new team into danger? What if he... did something horrible to Sonic. On the outside of his thoughts, Sonic was standing beside him, tapping his foot and watching Metal’s optics going in a swirly motion.
“Uhh Mets?” He asked, “Ya doing okay, bud?”
In response, Metal spazzed out some, mostly in surprise as to Sonic’s voice suddenly chiming into his internal thoughts. His optics turned back into their usual oval shape as he looked at Sonic.
“yes. I am doing ‘okay’. Please do not... scare me.. like that again.” Metal spoke, only somewhat in his usual monotone voice, now kind of developing his own special voice.
“Fine, Metal. Anyways, Tails and I are about to go invade one of Eggmans bases! Wanna come?” Metal had noticed Sonic had his brown backpack on. The same one with an emerald colored charm. Only almost matching his bright green eye color.
After Metal gave a simple nod in response to Sonic’s offer, he, Sonic, and Tails headed out. The base was located in Chemical Plant. Of course, Sonic would have something to say about this.
“Mann! Egg-head always builds a base there, huh?”
“Well,” Tails began, “There are a whole bunch of.. well, chemicals, there for his machines. And a lot of machinery in general! That could be why he likes building so many bases there.”
“What do you think, Mets?” He looked over at the blue robot, who didn’t expect to be a part of the conversation, “why do you think Egg-head loves building bases there?”
Metal thought for a bit. “I will be honest, even though I’ve worked for him for as long as I’ve even existed... that’s a great mystery. But Tails’ answer seems to make more sense to me.”
“Yeah, I guess you’re right!” Tails laughed some, causing the other two to laugh along.. even if Metal’s sounded more awkward than normal.
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It took the group a few hours, but they were soon at the entrance of Eggman’s new base. Metal wondered if Eggman had even changed the entry passcode since he left him. Wouldn’t be surprising if he didn’t, considering how much of a buffoon he was.
“AAlright, Guys! So what’s the plan? Sneaking in? Busting in?” As sonic spoke, he was doing his usual pre-running stretches.
“Now hang on..” Tails had his Miles Electric out, and was using it to scan the base’s entrance and beyond, “It seems that Eggman loaded this place up with security. Even if we do sneak in, we’ll have to be a whole lot more caref-“
Tails was interrupted by Sonic. “Psh! Funny, tails. But what’s the worst ol’ Eggface can do? Catch me?” Sonic continued laughing.
“Sonic, this is Eggman we are talking about. My creator. He knows I work with you now, so he has most likely created something stronger than even myself to take care of you. Tails is right. We do need to be careful.” Metal spoke in a serious tone. Of course, being a robot, he almost always sounds serious.
“An egghead is an egghead. Even if he’s lost one of his creations, I think his limit is at you.” Sonic chuckled, “now let’s get a move on!”
“Fine..” Metal followed Sonic as the spindash drilled through the metal door, immediately afterwards dashing in. Tails stuck with his plan of sneaking in carefully.
Inside the base, it was almost pitch black dark. The only source of light Sonic and Metal had were Metal’s bright red optics, but even that made it hard to see. Sonic used his “hog-sense” to figure out where he was going, as Metal simply scanned around.
“Sonic, this really was a bad idea.. now that there’s a gaping hole in the door, that’s sure to alert someone..” Metal said, almost expecting a snarky response from Sonic.. but to his surprise, nothing. “..Sonic?” Even after that, nothing. Not a sound. He scanned around for the blue hedgehog, but nothing. Metal had a bad feeling about this. But there’s no way Sonic himself could’ve been captured, right?
Well, unfortunately, Metal was wrong. Sonic was in fact captured. Silently knocked out by Eggmans newest creation... which was literally just a spy bot. Eggman did want a new killer robot. But he currently did not have the materials to build a new Metal Sonic. So what’s just as fast and could easily be made as strong, if not stronger? The real deal. This was also a great opportunity to test out a new creation of his; the Roboticizer. A machine that can turn organic matter into machinery through a painful process. Perfect.
Metal was growing worried, but soon spotted a light. From what he could tell from silhouettes, someone was being carried into that room. Metal already had a feeling who it was, and ran towards it. Quietly and slowly however because he didn’t want to have whatever was gonna happen to sonic happen to him as well.
The spy bot dropped Sonic off inside of a cylindrical container, and left before it sealed Sonic inside. Eggman, seeing this, laughed to himself.
“Oh OHOHOH!! Not only do I get a new powerful robot, but I finally have the problem with this blue pest out of the way!!” Eggman continued to laugh before stopping himself. “Right then! Let the Roboticization process... INITIATE!!” He quickly pressed a button, just after Metal had walked in.
“RELEASE SONIC, DOCTOR. OR THINGS WILL GET MESSY.” Metal had his sharp claws out, not joking about how things would get messy.
“Ah, well if it isn’t my former robot, Metal Sonic. I’m afraid you’re too late to save Sonic now!!” Just as he finished that sentence, the roboticization process on Sonic had finished. The cylindrical container lifted, revealing Sonic... only now robotic. His optics now a red color similar to Metal Sonic’s. “Mecha Sonic.. ATTACK!”
Following the orders of Eggman, Sonic got out of the roboticizer and attacked Metal.. but oddly enough, seemed to deactivate right as he was about to actually try hurting him. Both Eggman and Metal were confused as to why this was so.
“N.. NO! HOW COULD I OVERLOOK SUCH A FLAW!!?” Eggman exclaimed, “I HAD MADE SURE THE PROGRAMMING WAS PERFECT!!”
“And yet, here I am leaving.” Metal said, as he picked Sonic up, “Oh.. and for your own safety, get lost.” Metal walked out of the room, leaving Eggman just whining about his defeat. As Metal left, he contacted Tails to let him know that an escape was required, due to what had happened to Sonic.
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Hours had passed since Metal brought the now robotic Sonic back. Tails was trying to reactivate it, Amy was horribly worried for Sonic, and Knuckles was blaming Metal for all of this.
“Maybe had you just been left as scrap metal, Sonic wouldn’t be like this!” He yelled at Metal.
“Knuckles I’m sorry, but can you shut up!? It was Sonic that didn’t listen to my or Metal’s warning and rushed in anyways!” Tails was defending Metal’s case. Sure he didn’t entirely trust him yet, but he had seen the warning before his eyes.
“Oh so now you’re taking his side!? What’s next?! Are you gonna be trusting EGGMAN of all people next!?” Knuckles raised his voice. Metal has had enough by now. He went between Knuckles and Tails and of the first time, showed true emotion through his voice.
“YOU KNOW WHAT?! I get it!! I get that you don’t like me! I get that you won’t accept the fact that I have changed! That ive decided to be my own person- robot- whatever!! And I get that you would think that I would be responsible for this happening to sonic!!”
No one had known this, but Sonic was already reactivating, actually acting like himself, green optics instead of red, just in time to hear the rest of what Metal had to say, “and you know what?! I’ll accept responsibility for what happened to him! I should’ve forcefully kept him from breaking in like that! I should’ve kept a better eye on him! So you know what?! Maybe I don’t belong here after all! Maybe you’re right! I SHOULD JUST BE IN A SCRAP PILE!!” And with that, Metal stormed out. Everyone in the room was baffled. None of them, not even Sonic, had ever seen Metal like this. Sonic finally got up.
“METAL!! WAIT!!” Almost as soon as he got up off the table Tails and Metal had set him on, he had fallen down. When getting up, he finally realized what had happened to him.. or was at least getting an idea of it.
“...huh.. Well Tails.. you were right. I should’ve listened to you.” Sonic was beginning to tremble some, but soon stopped. “I’ll ask about how the heck this happened later. I’ve gotta stop Metal from doing whatever he’s probably about to do!!” Sonic ran off again, but unfortunately for him, going at a normal running pace.
“Oh come on!! GO FASTER, FEET!!” And almost as if they listened to him, he began going his usual speed. Thanks to the thrusters on his legs. Tails tried to go after him, worried that he would deactivate again, but Sonic was already gone.
It didn’t take him long to catch up with Metal, as Metal was not using his back thruster. Sonic was about to ask him to come back, but Metal beat him to the first words.
“You know.. you know it’s my fault Sonic.. dOnT you tell lies..” Metal kind of sounded like he was crying, his optics in a sad expression.
“Metal.. why would I even lie to you!? I’m not one to lie anyways!” Sonic slowed down to talk to Metal, “And assuming that you’re blaming yourself for.. this..” he motioned to the rest of his now robotic body, “well don’t. It’s my own fault for not listening to you and Tails.”
“But..” Metal robotically sighed, “What about the others? Even if you defend my case, they’ll still think it’s my fault.”
“No they won’t.. they’re only rough on you because of things you did in the past. Even then it was only because you were following your programming. But now you’re your own bot! You’ve even developed your own personality!”
“You’re.... you’re right about that.” Metal finally stopped.
Sonic stopped as well. “Now come on. Don’t go and scrap yourself over all of this. That wouldn’t be good for either of us.”
“..Alright.”
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-Epilogue-
Sonic and Metal soon headed back to Tails’ workshop. Sonic had confronted Knuckles about how he basically told Metal to go kill himself, and pretty much made Knuckles apologize.
Tails began figuring out Sonic’s situation further, with Metal helping out. Unfortunately for Sonic, he would be stuck like this for the rest of his days, if not just for a long time. While this did upset the blue hedgehog, he understood that this was what he gets for going into everything head first. Metal was there to help Sonic get used to life as a robot. Their relationship began to blossom over time, causing them to begin to crush on each other... but what happens afterwards is only to be assumed.
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This took forever to write
@metonic-ship @enigma--machine
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crusherthedoctor · 3 years
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Let’s try this again...
So for those of you who can’t currently see asks, I was informed in an ask about this statement by Ian Flynn in regards to why IDW Eggman acted the opposite of a respectable, well-characterized Eggman during the zombot arc:
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Needless to say, this Steamed my Hams. Here’s why. (Credit to @beevean​ and @colony-drop-program​ for several additional points.)
In SA1, Eggman was constantly one step ahead of the heroes by swiping their emeralds, had both Chaos and the Egg Carrier operating at the same time, resorted to a missile when both were seemingly dealt with (which only turned out to be a dud cause of bad luck), and revealed a second Egg Carrier in the event that Chaos would betray him. And in the case of the missile - he was clearly at his wit’s end by that point, and suicide attacks on the brink of a villainous breakdown are common among many villains, including clever schemers... like Eggman.
In SA2, Eggman suspected there was a fake emerald in the mist that the heroes wanted to use to trick him, so he set up a situation perfectly in a way that would reveal which one it is.
In Battle, he was able to drive Emerl insane with energy in case the robot defeated him in battle.
In Unleashed, the game starts with Eggman setting up a trap based on the expectation that he would know exactly how Sonic (or rather, Super Sonic) would react, and it worked flawlessly. And upon learning that Dark Gaia woke up too early and his spawn were scattered all across the planet, Eggman managed to lure Dark Gaia spawn to him, and he still able to create Eggmanland and did his best to prevent Sonic from reaching the final temple.
Even in ‘06, he had that trap where he sent Sonic and Co to the future. It may have relied on the heroes being stupid, but it still counts as Eggman preparing for something.
Even in Heroes, arguably his most pathetic role in the game canon due to being locked in a room by his own creation for the whole game, he still had the initiative to hire the Chaotix into getting him out. And Metal Sonic’s flaws with his own plan... are Metal Sonic’s. Not Eggman’s. Metal Sonic didn’t take control of Eggman’s plan, he came up with his own plan to begin with. Metal’s failings in Heroes are not in any way, shape or form the fault of Ivo’s, and I don’t know why this example was even mentioned.
And keep in mind, these are just the games where Eggman was still upstaged. We’re not even going into the games that KEPT him as the top dog from start to finish, like in Sonic 3 & Knuckles where he’s constantly doing everything he can to stall you from reaching the Death Egg (which implies planning at least some of it in advance), Rush Adventure where he created the pirates as a proxy to search out the Jeweled Scepter, Colours where he kept his mind control cannon a secret, Generations where he teamed up with his past self in order to tame the Time Eater, Lost World where he brought a Cacophonic Conch with him to subjugate the Deadly Six, then bounced his way back up even after they stole his tech, and everything in Forces (storing Phantom Ruby copies, the artificial sun plot in case the Death Egg was destroyed, being able to dispose of Infinite in case he acted up, keeping the real Phantom Ruby for himself, even having a second mech inside the first mech in case the latter was destroyed).
Hell, the entire reason he set up a racing tournament in the original Sonic Riders was so that he could uncover the Babylon Garden.
And didn’t Flynn himself write that Mega Drive comic from a while back? The one where Eggman made a similar SA2-style bargain ploy for the last Ancient Gear, only to then reveal he had the other Gears already once he got it?
Eggman may be careless at times, with occasional details, but he’s not a Mephiles-tier moron who doesn’t understand the concept of a plan or strategy. He’s a mastermind, with many elaborate plots over the years to live up to that title, and when he’s not planning things out in advance, he’s just as quick to improvise or take advantage of the situation as best as he can.
He knew what would happen with Chaos upon feeding him Chaos Emeralds, because...
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He knew something would happen with Dark Gaia, because...
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(He also proceeded to kidnap Professor Pickle for the specific purpose of obtaining even more information on the subject.)
And while he may not have known exactly what Project Shadow was at the time, he still knew its existence in the first place (and by proxy, the ARK’s existence), because...
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...And he brought a Chaos Emerald along with him. And knew the password, “Maria”.
There is no excuse for the doctor to just shrug and do absolutely nothing upon being informed about a potential error in his plan. The fact that Ian Flynn - a man who has worked with this character for over a decade, and thus by all means should know this character by the back of his hand - completely disregards this official, canonical element of the main villain of a 30 year old franchise, only makes me less willing to trust any of the characters’ handling under his pen. And that’s putting aside how questionably handled everyone else has been in IDW.
And you might say “But it’s IDW, it’s a different interpretation”. But here’s the thing: it’s following off of Forces, a game where Eggman was at his brilliant best. There’s no way you can go from his backup-plan-after-backup-plan strategy from that game, to his DarkSydePhil-tier “nothing I could do dood” showing in this comic, and chalk it up to anything other than, at best, an extreme display of inconsistency. And as far as we know, this isn’t even the cause of those mandates that everyone loves to point to... this was all Flynn.
So yes. If I wasn’t certain that Flynn’s widespread fandom status as the Best Sonic Writer of all time, every time, was just a teensy, tiny bit exaggerated... I am now. I may be an Eggman fan, so naturally that does fuel my annoyance with his statement on the doc, but I’d be just as annoyed if it were any other character who was blatantly misinterpreted to this degree, even if it were a character I was apathetic to or even flat out disliked.
Best Writers™ do not selectively choose how characters from long lasting IPs act. You can experiment with a character. You can play around with a character’s traits. But you can’t turn a character completely inside out and expect it to work just like that.
It doesn’t work.
/RantOver
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astroni800 · 5 years
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Since Sonic Twitter Takeover #4 transcription by pacifistchara is no longer available I reupload it here:
Sonic: Hey, what’s up, everyone? Sonic here, excited to be with you all for our fourth ever Twitter Takeover! You can ask me any questions with—
[knocking sounds in background]
Sonic: Oh, sorry, one sec. Yeah? Hello? Oh, Tails!
Tails: Hey, Sonic! Heard you were doing that Twitter thing again! Can I join this time?
Sonic: Of course! You, uh…you didn’t invite Knuckles, though, right?
Tails: Nah, just me! But, uh, I think Eggman was actually waiting outsi—
Eggman: Surprise!
Tails: [sighs]
Eggman: You didn’t think you could host another of these without me around, did you, Sonic? Ooh, and I brought a friend!
Shadow: I’m still not your friend, Doctor. I just felt this Twitter Takeover could use a little help from the Ultimate Lifeform.
Sonic: Ah. Well, it’s a bit crowded in here now, but we’ll make this work! Tweet us your questions today on Twitter with the hashtag #AskSonic, and you might get a special response from us!
Shadow: Wait. Why is it “#AskSonic”? I think it should be “#AskShadow”.
Eggman: Or #AskEggman! I do have a PhD.
Tails: Or #AskTails! I know all sorts of stuff, I’m really smart—!
Sonic: Guys, guys, guys. Guys! It’s just #AskSonic, okay? You can all answer, don’t worry!
Tails: Fine…
Eggman: [sighs loudly]
Shadow: [indistinct grumbling]
Sonic: So send us your questions here on Twitter for the next six hours, and you might get a response from us! Until then…
All: See ya!
Shadow: Hmph. It really should be #AskShadow.
~ #1 ~
Eggman: Let’s see…here’s a question from Sonicguy001. He says, “Tails, what’s the greatest thing you’ve ever invented?”
Tails: Oh, the greatest thing I’ve ever invented? Oh, man, but there’s so many! Uh…maybe the Tornado? No, no, maybe Miles Electric?
Shadow: “Miles Electric”?
Sonic: Oh, that little translator pad you keep with you?
Tails: Yeah! Or – wait, I know, maybe…the Sea Fox!
Eggman: None of these are really that impressive, in my opinion.
Shadow: I’ve never even heard of the Sea Fox.
Tails: Oh, right. We hadn’t really met you yet.
Sonic: Yeah, Game Gear days, my dude.
Eggman: Tails is responsible for the death of so many batteries.
Tails: Thanks for your question, Sonicguy! Between us, I hope my best invention is yet to come!
~ #2 ~
Shadow: TassaneeKunchai asks… If I pronounced that name wrong, change it. Anyway, they ask, “Eggman, do you have any hobbies? If so, what are they?” Heh. This should be good.
Eggman: Ooh, I like this one! Let’s see, my hobbies include long walks on the beach, creating robot armies, and oh, of course – conquering the entire planet you live on.
Sonic: Seriously? Can you really call it a hobby if it’s something you fail at every time you try it?
Tails: Hahaha, are you talking about him conquering the planet or the long walks on the beach, Sonic?
Shadow: He means both. The doctor spends far too much time indoors.
Eggman: I do not! I get outside all the time. You guys, stop ganging up on me! Anyway, thanks for the question, Tassa… [stutters] When I take over this planet, unlike these three, you’ll be on my good list.
~ #3 ~
Eggman: Hope I’m pronouncing this right… LoveyDoveyii asks, “Hey guys, hope you’re all having a nice day. To Sonic, if you were to list everything you like about your little buddy Tails, what would it be?”
Tails: Aww, this one’s about me?
Sonic: Well, let’s see. Tails is awesome for a ton of reasons! But I’ll list the big ones. He’s always there for me when I need him, and—
Shadow: Sure. Just like that time you were sent in a capsule that exploded from the Space Colony ARK, right?
Eggman: Oh, right, I did do that.
Tails: Hey, no, I—!
Sonic: Plus he’s always optimistic, he’s a genius mechanic, and I know he always does the right thing. He once even saved all of Station Square from Eggman!
Tails: Haha, I mean, y'know…
Eggman: I wasn’t really trying, you know.
Sonic: So, anyway, those are just a few of the things about Tails that I think are great. You’re the best, man.
Tails: Aw, thanks, Sonic!
Shadow: I think I’m going to throw up.
~ #4 ~
Tails: Here’s one! Col0rsandmayhem asks, “What are some of your favorite snacks?”
Eggman: Oh, wonderful timing! We’ve just arrived at today’s Twitter Takeover Sponsorship! Here, Sonic, read this.
[paper rustling]
Sonic: Wait, do I really have to—
Eggman: Come on, just read it or I don’t get my free minifridge!
Sonic: UGH, fine. [in a bored monotone] “This Twitter Takeover is brought to you by Chaos Cola, the official cola of Chao Races and Chao Karate worldwide. Crack open a relatively chilled Chaos Cola today.”
Tails: Personally, I like their mint juice drinks better.
Shadow: You’re all such corporate sellouts. I say support indie drinks. There’s nothing cooler than supporting the little guy.
~ #5 ~
Eggman: Jirard the Completionist asks, “Hey guys, huge fan, all hail Shadow—”
Shadow: Ooh, yeah, I like this guy already.
Eggman: Shadow, let me finish, please. [clears throat] “What is your ideal chilidog? Does Eggman’s have egg on top?”
Sonic: Ah. Plain dog, hot chili, and cheese. Easy answer.
Tails: I mostly give my chilidogs to Sonic. But I think I get the same thing he does.
Shadow: First, bonus points for showing me the respect I deserve, Completionist. Second, I add peppers, and even more cheese than Sonic. Just to prove I’m better than him.
Eggman: Mine would have three eggs on top, all with little Eggman faces—
Sonic: Hey, Eggman, check this out. I was searching this dude and he’s got a band called “Big Bad Bosses” with you in it!
Eggman: Huh? That can’t be right. My musical career is kept remarkably secret!
Tails: Oh, wow, there’s a whole Eggman song and everything!
Shadow: If you’ll excuse us, Jirard, we’re about to watch this video and laugh profusely at Eggman. Thanks for the great question.
~ #6 ~
Sonic: Evil_Antho asks “Hi guys! Question for your glorious, egg-shaped mad genius…” You know what, I think we’re just gonna throw this one out.
[paper rustling]
Eggman: Hey, give me that! Let’s see. They want to know if I secretly keep a Chao Garden in my evil lair. “If so, would you please share your secrets to Chao care?”
Tails: Eggman, you have a Chao Garden in your evil lair?
Eggman: What? Heh, not at all, I wouldn’t do that! Even if the evil ones are surprisingly cute, and understand me at a psychological level far deeper than anyone else ever could.
Shadow: Doctor, last time I was at your lair, I could’ve sworn I saw little Chao toys all over the floor—
Eggman: Nononono, those were, those were…those were Tails’s.
Tails: WHAT? That is NOT TRUE!
Eggman: Anyway, uh, thanks for the question, Evil, but I most definitely do NOT have a bunch of secret evil Chao in my lair, haha. CUT THE MIKE! CUT THE MIKE!
~ #7 ~
Shadow: SlashClaws asks, “Eggman, have you ever used your tech for a non-evil purpose?”
Eggman: Good question! But of course, SlashClaws. I did help save the planet from a falling space colony once.
Tails: Yeah, but to be fair, you also kinda started all that.
Eggman: Okay, then how about…I once used it to stop the Deadly Six from also destroying the world.
Sonic: Yeah, but that was using your creation, Eggman. You started that one too.
Eggman: Okay, wow, you guys are just really being mean to me here. I’m not that evil—
Shadow: Don’t trust anything the doctor says, ever. That’s my motto.
Tails: I agree.
Eggman: I just can’t win with you people! Thanks for the question, SlashClaws.
~ #8 ~
Tails: Oh, I got a fun one here! maliasorce asks – sorry if I said that wrong, heh – “Sonic, what is the key to your positivity? What makes you so optimistic 24/7?”
Shadow: Yes, please tell us so I can finally put into words what bothers me about you so much.
Sonic: Hey, Malia! Great question. And, uh, ignore Shadow. [mockingly] He’s just grumpy because he hasn’t had a question in a bit.
Eggman: So what is it that keeps you so positive all the time, Sonic?
Sonic: Easy! Part of it’s my friends, like Tails and Knuckles, and part of it is knowing that no matter what, we can always overcome whatever life throws at us.
Shadow: Aw, how adorable. And remarkably cheesy.
Tails: He’s right, though! Everyone has bad days and rough times, but I think it always helps to know that even if they’re rough, things are going to get better someday.
Eggman: Thanks for the question, Malia.
~ #9 ~
Sonic: All right. Gushers asks, “Yes, hi, Sonic, sir!” Wow, so formal. “Why do people always send me this?” Oh, and there’s a…picture here…
Tails: It’s a picture of you, Sonic!
Eggman: Whoa, looks like an old one! What is this, Dreamcast days?
Shadow: It’s a little picture of you saying “I like Gusher”?
Eggman: Wait, I know what this is…
Shadow: Leave it to me, Eggman. I’ve been waiting for this moment. [clears throat] Silence, brand.
Sonic: Whoa, guys, chill out. I like their Twitter. Thanks, Gushers!
Tails: PS, if you wanna send us any free samples, my workshop’s address is 101 Mystic Ruins Lane, Suite—
Shadow: Tails, you’re doing it again. Stop being a corporate sellout. Listen, Gushers, if you send any samples out, you send ‘em straight to me.
~ #10 ~
Tails: Thomas Capella asks, “To everyone except Shadow, because he already answered, what’s your favorite anime?”
Eggman: Oh, mine’s a bit dark, you might not like it, it involves ghouls and the like…
Sonic: Ha, mine’s easy. Sonic X! Not that I’m biased or anything. How about you, Tails?
Tails: I like the one with the kid who becomes a hero. “One for All!”
Shadow: Mine’s still the one with the girl and the scissor blade. It’s the greatest anime of all time, and none of you will ever change my mind.
~ #11 ~
Shadow: _kimmyko_ asks “Hey, Eggman, where do I sign up to join the Eggman Empire? Is there a paid internship program or something? Asking for a friend.”
Sonic: Whoa, whoa, whoa, kimmyko, let me stop you right there. You really don’t want this internship, trust me.
Tails: Hey, I could use an intern! I mean, I couldn’t pay you in anything but gold rings, but—
Eggman: Would you two stop trying to poach my new hires? People wonder why HR can’t find quality candidates, and now I realize it’s you two! kimmyko, I don’t pay my interns because it’s the most evil thing I can do. But I’d be happy to have you join the Eggman Empire.
Shadow: Between us, I recommend going your own way. You don’t need Eggman or Sonic and Tails. Trust only yourself.
Eggman: Exactly. Trust yourself to ignore Shadow and follow me! Welcome aboard!
~ #12 ~
Tails: Hey, Eggman, what’s that one?
Eggman: Let’s see. SonicReikai asks, “For your Spanish fans, could you four please sing the Macarena?”
Tails: Wait, you guys sang last time?
Sonic: I mean, yeah, a little bit.
Shadow: You have no proof I sang anything.
Eggman: Well, they soon will. Let’s do it!
All: [a few lines’ worth of indistinct mumble-singing] Ay macarena!
Tails: [a few more lines’ worth of indistinct mumble-singing]
All: Ay macarena!
~ #13 ~
Tails: Heh, I like this one. Brandon Santiago asks, “To Shadow, if you’re the ultimate lifeform, how come you need your rocket shoes to run fast while Sonic doesn’t, hmmm?”
Eggman: Ooh, he’s going right in with that one, isn’t he?
Sonic: [mockingly] Yeah, Shadow, why do you need rocket shoes to run fast?
Shadow: What a presumptuous question from this “Brandon” person. I’m not just fast because of my rocket shoes, Brandon. I’m the Ultimate Lifeform. And you would be wise to respect my power!
Eggman: Whoa, he’s actually getting a little angry.
Tails: Do you think he’s upset because it’s maybe a little true?
Shadow: No, it’s NOT true! Tails, you couldn’t even come close to beating me if you tried. Especially if—
Sonic: Guys, why is Shadow glowing red?
Shadow: —especially if I—
Eggman: Oh, no, I’ve seen this before—
Shadow: Chaos—
Everyone else: [screaming]
Shadow: —Blast!
Everyone else: [screaming continues]
~ #14 ~
Tails: DarkNecroDizzy asks, “Hey, Sonic, what do you do with all the golden rings you’ve collected over the years, anyways?”
Shadow: Yes, what do you do with those, Sonic?
Eggman: Ha, he doesn’t have that many! I normally knock them all out of him.
Sonic: Really? Good question, NecroDizzy. I save a lot of them, but I do spend a good amount on Chao and power-ups, too.
Tails: And I use them to fund my creations!
Shadow: I donate all my gold rings to those in need. Check out Global Giving, St. Jude, and Extra Life for some great places to send your gold rings, too.
Eggman: Shadow’s a philanthropist? Who knew? Thanks, NecroDizzy!
~ #15 ~
Shadow: LuckyPaola asks, “Dear Sonic, Tails, Shadow, and Doctor Eggman, what do you eat for breakfast?”
Sonic: Oh, hey, they drew a little image here.
Tails: Oh my gosh, this is so cute!
Eggman: Oh, hey, that’s me on the right there! Am I…am I flipping eggs or pancakes?
Sonic: It’s gotta be eggs, because you’re Eggman, right?
Eggman: Well, sure, but I actually really love making waffles for breakfast!
Shadow: Am I drinking tea or coffee?
Tails: Do you drink a lot of coffee, Shadow?
Shadow: No, I just eat the beans straight. Didn’t you listen to the last Twitter Takeover?
Sonic: Tails, we’ve got little breakfast chilidogs, I think!
Tails: This is my new favorite art ever! Thanks, LuckyPaola!
~ #16 ~
Shadow: Recko the Dark asks, “Well, Eggman, would you sell TV products? What would be the first one that would occur to you?”
Eggman: TV products, hmm… Well, that’s easy. I’ve got so many wonderful products I’ve made over the years.
Tails: All of them remarkably dangerous and definitely not safe for TV.
Eggman: Oh, that’s not true, Tails! I built the Hedgehog Trapper 9000, which is only dangerous if you’re the one being trapped.
Tails: That one has sawblades!
Eggman: Purely decorative, don’t worry! And I’m working out this neat design for a new Metal Sonic – he’s got rockets on both his hands and feet!
Sonic: Wait, whoa, this still sounds really dangerous.
Eggman: Oh, no, no, not for the people on TV, don’t worry. Only dangerous for you, Sonic.
Shadow: Recko, I don’t think we can legally allow Eggman to keep talking, so I’m going to cut the mike here. Thanks for your question.
~ #17 ~
Sonic: Oh hey, the Sonic Stadium – nice fansite name, guys – asks, “Many of our readers want to know, what is the secret to growing such a fine moustache?”
Tails: Wait, is that for all of us or just Eggman?
Eggman: I’ve got this, don’t worry. Listen, the secret is quite simple. First you need good product. I use a firming gel called “Adam and Sven”. Then you use a comb, and also carefully trim it to become impeccably stunning and handsome.
Tails: I wonder what Eggman would look like if we shaved his mustache off.
Eggman: Oh no, trust me, you really don’t wanna see that.
Shadow: I agree, Tails. Maybe we should shave it off right now.
Eggman: Shadow – no no no, please, guys, listen, I—
Sonic: Just grab him, quick!
Eggman: No, no, nonono, wait— [screams]
~ #18 ~
Tails: smoov22_sonic asks, “What’s Shadow’s favorite place to go shopping?”
Sonic: Oh, it’s gotta be that store with all the edgy clothing and goth stuff. What is it, Lukewarm Topic?
Eggman: I bet it’s the Halloween shop down the street! I saw him wearing a cape once.
Shadow: What? Those are both fine establishments, by the way, but I do my shopping at the local convenience store. It’s called “Maria’s”.
Eggman: [quiet intake of breath]
Tails: Oh, wait, um, Maria was…
Sonic: Oh, wow, sorry. I – I didn’t mean to—
Shadow: No. No, it’s fine. As long as I can keep supporting some Maria out there in the world, I…at least feel like I’m making it a better place.
Eggman: This question turned out to be quite the emotional rollercoaster. Thanks, smoov22.
~ #19 ~
Shadow: JadeUltra asks, “Where do you guys see yourself in the future?”
Eggman: Oh ho, that’s easy! Sitting atop my mechanical throne, ruling the world!
Sonic: Also an easy answer. Stopping Eggman from whatever plan he thinks he can pull off, and spending some more time on Twitter when I can.
Tails: I’d like to create more inventions that could support everyone.
Shadow: I’d like to open up a cat orphanage someday, for all the stray cats of the world, so they have a place to stay.
Everyone else: Wait, really?
Shadow: What? I have a soft spot for adorable little kittens. Don’t judge me.
Eggman: So judged.
~ #20 ~
Tails: TheHaasManWyatt asks, “What is your all-time favorite memory?”
Sonic: Oh, I like this one! For me, probably that time we all saved the planet together. Well, the one with the Biolizard, anyway.
Tails: My favorite memory is meeting Sonic for the first time. And after that, uh… My adventure on Cocoa Island.
Eggman: My favorite memory was finally beating Sonic, e-even though it happens all the time. What about yours, Shadow?
Shadow: My favorite memory was being dead.
Sonic: Wow, okay, that got dark.
~ #21 ~
Eggman: GottaPostFast asks – oh, I get that, that’s a reference – “Hey Tails, you probably get this a lot, but what does the fox say?”
Tails: Oh, uh… [quietly] Hey, Sonic, are the lawyers gonna get angry if I sing the song and stuff?
Sonic: [quietly] Yeah, probably. You just have to come up with something else real fast.
Shadow: [quietly] What are you two whispering about?
Tails: N-nothing! The fox says, uh… um… I’ve gotta fly high!
Eggman: Wait, that’s just your theme song from Sonic Adventure—
Tails: So I can reach the highest of all the heavens!
Sonic: Nice save, bud.
Shadow: I’m very, very confused by all this. Thank you, GottaPostFast. Next question.
~ #22 ~
Tails: AshleyChan456 asks, “I’ve got a question to ask all of you. Seeing that summer is nearly upon us, I’ve gotta ask: What’s your ideal summer vacation?”
Sonic: For me, a nice, beautiful beach, a palm tree or two, an umbrella to block out the sun, a boombox to play some tunes…
Tails: A motorized surfboard so I can splash water all over Sonic on accident, then go out of control and try to rescue a big owl guy.
Sonic: I almost feel like we’ve done this before.
Shadow: My ideal summer vacation is a trip to somewhere dark and spooky. I might invite Rouge or Omega to join me.
Eggman: Mine would be in my evil lair, surrounded by my own creations, watching as my minions conquer and capture all the little animals of the forest and turn them into more robots.
Shadow: Wait, can I change my answer? Instead—
Tails: Nope, we’re outta time! Thanks, Ashley, and hope you have a great summer too!
~ #23 ~
Sonic: Menno asks, “Hello, Shadow! What would your ultimate day look like?”
Tails: [imitating Shadow] “Dear Diary, today I brooded. And brooded some more. And then raised some Chao.”
Eggman: Hey, that’s not bad, Tails.
Shadow: Quiet, fox. My ultimate day would consist of a nice two handfuls of coffee beans in the morning, followed by a playthrough of the world’s greatest video game—
Sonic: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric?
Shadow: No, Shadow the Hedgehog.
Tails: Probably should’ve seen that one coming.
Shadow: Then I head outside to do mysterious things, like saving people in need at the last moment, or picking up cool dark clothing that I’ll never wear.
Eggman: And then after that?
Shadow: Finally, I head home and put on a good movie, like Chao in Space 3, which features me. It’s much better than Chao in Space 2.
Sonic: …yeah. Well, thanks for the question, Menno.
Shadow: Wait, I’m not done y—
~ #24 ~
Sonic: [clears throat and proceeds to stumble over the pronunciation of the asker’s name several times] aoii91 asks, “How many chilidogs could a hedgehog eat if a hedgehog could eat chilidogs?”
Shadow: Let me get this straight. “How many chilidogs could a hedgehog eat if a hedgehog could eat chilidogs?”
Tails: A hedgehog could eat all the chilidogs.
Eggman: Well, if a hedgehog could eat chilidogs. I think they’re vegetarians.
~ #25 ~
Eggman: Hyper Potions asks, “What’s your favorite Team Sonic Racing track?”
Tails: Oh, man, we have to pick one? But I love so many!
Shadow: Do they mean track, or musical? Aren’t these some of the people who worked on the game’s soundtrack?
Sonic: Hey, I know these guys! Hyper Potions also made the trailer music for Sonic Mania! Well, to answer your question, Whale Lagoon for me.
Eggman: Personally, my favorite track is Final Fortress.
Shadow: Mine is Boo’s House. I love watching Knuckles get scared of ghosts.
Tails: Okay, then mine would be…Sky Road.
Eggman: There you go, Hyper Potions. Oh, and special thanks to the other musicians who helped make the soundtrack so amazing, too!
Sonic: Yeah, like Jun Senoue and Crush 40!
Tails: And Tee Lopes!
Shadow: And Tyler Smith. He also made the theme of Infinite, which I enjoy very much.
Eggman: And TORIENA!
Sonic: Thanks for the question, Hyper Potions!
~ #26 ~
Shadow: TheChaosSpirit asks, “To all of you, what do you guys like to do to stay motivated when the going gets tough?”
Eggman: Personally, I build more robots. Keeps my mind off things. And believe me, the going gets tough for me a lot.
Tails: I like to think about new inventions, or go outside.
Sonic: And I like to stay motivated by running. Anywhere, any place. Oh, and by blowing up Eggman’s robots.
Shadow: I look back on my past dark, traumatic moments, and use those to shield myself from the impending challenges of the future. No matter what may come, I’ve surely faced far worse before.
Eggman: And there you go! Always so optimistic, Shadow.
~ #27 ~
Tails: Ann Michal asks, “Hi, Sonic! Have you ever considered dyeing your fur black and red to look cooler?”
Shadow: Who is this girl? And why does she have such good taste in hedgehogs?
Sonic: I’m sorry, what? Dye my fur black and red? Pshht, no thanks. That’s a Shadow thing right there. I’m good with blue.
Eggman: Wait a minute, you guys. I looked into this person’s history and it says here she even gave a presentation about Shadow.
Sonic: Wow. That’s a lot of retweets, too.
Tails: Ooh, someone’s got an admirer!
Shadow: “An Exploration of Shadow the Hedgehog’s True Moral Compass (& Knuckles)”. Impressive. Very impressive. Nice work, Michal. Thanks for being one of my biggest fans.
Sonic: Blue quills are better.
~ #28 ~
Eggman: LiatrisBlossom asks, “So, Shadow, where was that fourth Chaos Emerald?”
Tails: Yeah, Shadow, did you ever find that thing? It’s kind of a meme on the internet, you know.
Shadow: No, Tails, I never found that [bleep] fourth Chaos Emerald. I tried searching for the [bleep] Chaos Emerald many times, but I never found it.
Sonic: Wait, are you censoring yourself on purpose, Shadow?
Shadow: What? No. I just said exactly what I said in the game. You know, that [bleep] fourth Chaos Emerald.
Tails: Holy cow, he’s being censored in real time!
Eggman: That is some pretty impressive tech, SEGA.
Shadow: You may think you can stop me, SEGA Twitter team, but if I said it in the game, I’ll find a way to say it on Twitter. That [bleep] fourth Chaos Emerald – argh! [bleep] fourth Chaos Emerald! …Curse you, SEGA.
Sonic: Sorry, Shadow, but this was the only way the ESRB would let us continue. Thanks for understanding.
~ #29 ~
Sonic: Sam’s Procrastination Station asks, “Hey, @sonic_hedgehog, do you mind finally explaining to the general audience why you’re in a car in games like Team Sonic Racing? People still ask this question for some reason, so I think this is the perfect time to address it.”
Tails: Oh, that’s an easy one! He’s in a car in Team Sonic Racing because—
Sonic: Because if I was on foot, I’d win instantly. Exactly, Tails!
Tails: Aww, I wanted to answer that one, Sonic!
Shadow: Hold on a second. If you were on foot, you’d still lose just as badly to me, Sonic.
Tails: Hey, I can run too. Doesn’t anyone remember Sonic R on the Saturn?
Eggman: The car makes things even, Sam. But let’s be honest, even in Sonic R, I’m still the best racer by far. Thanks for the question!
~ #30 ~
Eggman: snowcanine asks, “If you guys could change one thing about yourselves, what would it be?”
Sonic: Good question! I’d like to be able to know exactly where the Chaos Emeralds were at any time. Would make stopping Eggman much easier.
Tails: I’d like to be able to keep flying without ever getting tired.
Eggman: I’d get rid of that silly sense of mercy that keeps stopping me from ever finally defeating Sonic. It’s just a weakness, really.
Shadow: I wouldn’t change a thing. Our mistakes make us who we are, and I’m comfortable with my identity.
Sonic: Yeah, I feel like Shadow’s answers are either the most depressing or the most inspiring, depending on the question. Thanks, snowcanine!
~ #31 ~
Tails: Barry Kramer asks, “You guys are in the business of moving quickly. What’s the best way to keep your shoes on? Laces, hook-and-loop fasteners, or, uh, other? Thanks.”
Sonic: Good question, Barry! Personally, I’m all about the buckle. Had it since the classic days.
Shadow: Other. I don’t really need a buckle. My shoes were specially designed and fit my feet perfectly, no matter how fast I’m going.
Tails: I actually don’t use one either! But I totally modified my shoes a bit so they’re a perfect fit too.
Eggman: I, um…I don’t do much running. A genius like me can conquer the world from the comfort of his own chair!
Sonic: Well, thanks for the question, Barry! And hope your next project comes out amazing.
~ #32 ~
Shadow: LTDork asks, “Sonic has become pretty notorious for his terrible taste in puns. Are there any specific jokes you guys like?”
Sonic: Whoa, whoa, whoa! Now, hang on, terrible taste in puns? That’s not entirely true—
Tails: But what about the games, Sonic? It’s definitely kinda true there.
Sonic: Yeah, but those are totally different writers! I’ve got a script to follow! Twitter Takeovers are way easier because I can just…be myself.
Eggman: I’d just like to add that I appreciate all of my writers, no matter the script. Please keep casting me as the villain!
Shadow: Suckup.
~ #33 ~
Shadow: Elsie Fisher asks, “Why do you guys always wear gloves? What are you hiding?”
Eggman: Uh, hands, mostly.
Tails: Hey, Sonic, have you ever tried taking off your gloves?
Sonic: What? No, why would I? They’re super comfy.
Tails: I dunno, like…for science and stuff?
Sonic: Huh. Well, all right, let’s see if I can— [grunting] Huh. Wow. That thing is – yeah, it’s really stuck on there.
Tails: Wait, Sonic. Rrrgh… My gloves won’t come off either!
Sonic: But Tails, what if I have, like, creepy blue hands under these!?
Tails: Uh…
Shadow: Would you both stop panicking? Elsie Fisher, thanks for your question, but we wear gloves because they’re comfortable and cool, and there’s absolutely nothing hidden underneath. …wait, wait. Can she – can she see that I’m winking right now, or is that not going through?
~ #34 ~
Tails: RubberNinja asks, “On a downward incline, would Eggman’s top speed while rolling surpass Sonic?”
Shadow: Wait a minute. That’s Ross. He’s one of the Grumpy Guys or whatever they call themselves. I was a grumpy guy before it was cool.
Sonic: The Game Grumps, Shadow. But this one’s easy, so I’ll answer it. There is absolutely no way I’d lose to Eggman at anything. Especially a speed competition.
Eggman: Hold on, hold on. Let’s think about this scientifically. From a momentum perspective, since I weigh more than you, I would almost certainly eventually—
Shadow: But your body is clearly not built for spin-dashing, Doctor. I don’t think you’d have nearly as smooth of a roll downward.
Eggman: Oh, no, no, we can just do the math here, let’s see. On a downward incline, assuming Sonic begins with a spin dash—
Tails: And also assuming Eggman has no bones to slow him down—
Eggman: Wait, what?
Tails: Eggman would eventually pass Sonic after roughly 7.8 miles.
Eggman: Hold on a minute, what was that about no bones?
Shadow: Well, there you have it, Ross of the Grumpy Grumps. That’s just science.
~ #35 ~
Tails: Chris Scullion asks, “Do ghosts and spirits of our deceased loved ones exist, or are they merely mental projections constructed in our own minds as a coping mechanism, as knowing they still have some presence (albeit a merely etherial one) gives some comfort?”
Shadow: Don’t worry, I got this one. Yes.
~ #36 ~
Sonic: SakataLouis asks, “Can you all say Happy Birthday to my little brother Diego? He’s seven years old today and he really likes you guys, especially Shadow.”
Tails: Aww, that’s adorable! Yeah, we can do that!
All: “Happy Birthday to my little brother Diego. He’s seven years old today and he really likes you guys, especially Shadow.”
Shadow: To Diego, one of my ultimate fans, happy seventh birthday.
Eggman: Thanks for being a good brother, SakataLouis.
~ #37 ~
Tails: Ooh, listen to this one, guys! From Lisamellow1, “An innocent question for Sonic, if he doesn’t mind. I’ve read in a book that it is confirmed by the Sonic Team that Sonic has feelings for Amy, but he’s too nervous to admit it! So, is that true? Also, have this very quick doodle of Amy I made.”
Eggman: Oh my. Is that true, Sonic?
Sonic: Whoa, what, what? A-Amy? Why are you guys asking me this all of the sudden?
Tails: Hey, the fans just wanna know! And you did say they could ask you anything…
Sonic: Yeah, but, well – listen, I don’t really feel comfortable talking about that on Twitter right—
Shadow: Are you afraid, Sonic? Are you running away from your feelings now, too?
Sonic: I just really don’t want to – I’ll be right back!
Tails: …Wow, he’s not normally like that. Well, one thing’s for sure now, the Sonamy fans are gonna go nuts.
~ #38 ~
Tails: theminemanner2 asks, “Doctor Eggman, how long did it take you to come up with the plan of luring Sonic and company into a false sense of security by joining the Twitter Takeover?”
Eggman: Good question, minemanner. Let’s see, how long has it been now…approximately six hours. Surprise, Sonic!
Tails: Oh, if you’re talking about the traps you placed, i already disarmed all of those.
Eggman: What?
Shadow: And the robots you were trying to hide above us were all destroyed when I used Chaos Blast earlier.
Eggman: H-how?
Sonic: And we totally had Knuckles trash your lair while you were doing this. Actually, this was just a plan to get you away from your base, Eggman.
Eggman: Are you kidding me? No! This is not okay! Rrrrrgh…
Sonic: Well, all’s well that ends well! Let’s keep the questions going.
~ #39 ~
Sonic: All right, here’s one! BluSlashed asks, “Who’s the best driver between all of you? You can only choose one.”
Shadow: Is that really a question? It’s well-known that I’m the best driver in this room.
Eggman: Oh no you aren’t, Shadow! You may be fast, but I could outsmart you any day.
Sonic: Ha, didn’t any of you guys watch “Team Sonic Racing: Overdrive”? Tails and I clearly won because we worked together.
Tails: Yeah, it’s all about the real superpower of teamwork!
Shadow: I was winning. You were all slow and had to rely on that Team Ultimate to save you.
Eggman: You know, it’s strange, but I really don’t have much recollection of what happened after that race.
Tails: Oh, uh, yeah, that’s, uh…probably for the best.
Sonic: Should we tell him?
Tails: No way!
~ #40 ~
Shadow: egoraptor asks, “Sonic, have you and Tails just straight-up forgotten how evil Robotnik is? I find it very disturbing to see y'all pal around with this joker.”
Sonic: Y'know, it’s a fair point that Eggman is pretty evil sometimes.
Tails: And he has tried to ruin our lives on multiple occasions.
Shadow: And risked the lives of the entire planet.
Sonic: But he’s more like…a lovable kind of bad guy, you know? There’s just something about him. Well, that and he just shows up uninvited all the time.
Eggman: Dear Arin Hanson, interesting question. I see you’ve chosen poorly when it comes to selecting your allies. I’ll be in touch. Very soon.
Everyone else: Dun-dun-dunnn!
~ #41 ~
Eggman: Caddicarus asks, “So hey, @Sonic_Hedgehog! Why do you collect rings when an anagram of your name is 'coins’?”
Sonic: They’re rings! Way bigger, way better, and you can throw them over your arm, too.
Shadow: Who would even collect coins, anyway?
Tails: All sorts of people, Shadow! I mean, there are people in the street, coin collectors, and that one plumber guy we ran into, y'know.
Sonic: In my humble opinion, Caddicarus, gold rings are way better than coins, and a much better investment, too.
~ #42 ~
Tails: Whew, I had no idea there’d be so many questions coming our way!
Eggman: Well, buckle up, fox boy, it’s normal. I’ve done this for years, trust me.
Shadow: Don’t worry. Eggman’s just upset because we’ve got more questions than he did.
Sonic: Guys, there’s even more questions still coming in, but I think time’s up.
Tails: Well, we’ve gotta stop somewhere. Thank you all so much for sharing your questions with us today, and for inviting me to join in!
Eggman: As always, a huge thank you to my adoring fans.
Shadow: And to the supporters of the world’s greatest hedgehog.
Sonic: Aw, you shouldn’t have, Shadow.
Shadow: No, no. I meant me.
Sonic: Oh. Well. That’s typical.
Eggman: So, what about all the people whose questions we didn’t get to answer? We have to come back for a fifth Takeover someday, right?
Sonic: Whoa! I mean, guys, we just finished the fourth!
Tails: Yeah! And let’s invite someone else next time, too! Like Rouge, or Big, or Amy – oh, maybe Cream—
Sonic: Nononono, uh, Tails, listen—
Shadow: From all of this in this cramped little room, please accept our appreciation for hanging out with us today.
Sonic: Yeah. Thanks, everyone!
Tails: Thank you!
Eggman: 'Til next time!
Shadow: Chaos Control!
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egg-emperor · 2 years
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I don't understand because they'll be people that are mad about those that woobify villains like Eggman just like I am, right. and I 100% agree and to show that, I express that I don't woobify or sugarcoat anything fucked up Eggman has done and instead embrace it, find his actions entertaining as they're written to be, and love him as a character. which means that I clearly recognize how evil he is, don't condone or excuse these actions, and just think he's an interesting, entertaining, and well put together character for that because they don't have to be good people to be fun and interesting in fiction.
but then those same people are like "waaa why are you attracted to dictators/fascists/abusers/murderers/etc!!!" just because I happen to find him hot too and don't say I hate him for being a terrible person. he's fictional and you should be glad that I recognize how fucked up he is and don't excuse his deeply evil fucked up actions, like I clearly just said when agreeing with you! you just can't win with some of these people. like damn sorry for recognizing the evil in his actions just like you but liking him in the "wrong" way just because I'm also attracted to him. as if that means I think the shit he does is good and I support real life terrible people 💀
how can these people judge me as a person in such a wild way and accuse me of loving real life types of fucked up people based on characters I happen to find sexy? absolutely stunned. stop putting words into my mouth and don't try to make such a bizarre and drastic connection that isn't true based off of that. Eggman is a terrible man and I know this and I'll never pretend that he isn't but I can love him all I want while knowing this, you can die mad about it. besides, there are worse characters I could be attracted to than an evil and funny old egg shaped man, so no need to be so judgemental and accusatory towards me and what I think and feel as a real life person. cut that out, it's fucked up
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