#Elliot Dunkel

[dizzyhslightlyvoided]

The attitude Dan Shive takes towards stuff like Telliot or the whole "the entire main cast is in a polyamorous relationship" thing is exactly like if he was a fanfic author describing his blorbos. Like not even as if they were his own OCs (and I mean they are, in actuality he's the creator of the whole thing).

Which, I mean, fair. If you aren't a fan of your own stuff, why make it?

#shenanigans #philosophy #el goonish shive #dan shive #dana shive #fandom #telliot #tedd verres #elliot dunkel #... and everyone else really #gay #polyamory

[foundfamilyadoptionagency]

Below is propaganda submitted in support of why this character should join the tumblr found family:

I haven't read El Goonish Shive in a looooonnnng while but I remember Elliot being the fucking SWEETEST boy ever!! He always looks out for his friends and would beat the shit out of anyone who is mean to them if he wasn't held back There's one point in the serie where he gets a summer job for the first time (at the comic equivalent of a Blockbuster) and he tries so hard to help people find the perfect movie, he's so precious ;-; Also he gains the power to turn into a catboy so there's that

#elliot dunkel #el goonish shive #adoption poll #no tags submitted #no image submitted #redemption event

[egsreactions]

#El Goonish Shive #Reaction image #Elliot #Elliot Dunkel #Ellen #Ellen Dunkel #Mood: BASEBALL #Mood: Vague Ace Feels

[tcringetourney]

#homestuck #hs #dave strider #el goonish shive #elliot dunkel #tcringetourney #polls

[thejazzywaffles]

Re-reading EGS for the first time in a few years and I'm almost caught up to the present pages. But more importantly, I can't stop reading Kevin (the wand)'s dialogue like an old-timey radio announcer. Kinda like the radio demon from Hazbin Hotel.

(See Balance Page 113 for the added context of how Kevin tends to talk.)

#el goonish shive #egs #kevin #hazbin hotel #alastor the radio demon #elliot dunkel #ashley #sarah #dan shive #egscomics #Drew's Posts

[macksting]

continued Rambling Infodump about El Goonish Shive

So it appears the problem was sheer length.

This person who can hardly think about himself without thinking himself monstrous and harmful, and he tries so hard on behalf of others. Elliot Dunkel is basically Sailor Jupiter with less romantic ambition. And Susan! Standing up for something when nobody else does, and in fact it draws ridicule and hatred, is such a horrible and lonely sensation! When nearly everybody abandoned her at once, afraid of being near the lightning rod, and she was left in despair, it's easy to see why she was looking at other schools. She holds her aim too long! Multiple times in the comic she's had a situation where she might have had something if she hadn't hesitated, hadn't stopped to examine it, but it's who she is. She wants to go in with eyes open, resolute, and on firm ground, and life does not wait for that! One can both come to terms with that and yet still curse it when some opportunity slips away because one was unable to act without turning it over again and again to make certain of what one is seeing, to make certain of what one wants. When she looked down at the counter of her video store job, the art very competently portrayed that distress that broke through when she returned to the locker. It was that one last straw, that one more thing. Honestly, if this is her response to change, Dan is in a slightly awkward position because that brings up questions about Susan and autism which are largely answerable as "maybe I should stop prying about one of many characters who Dan identifies with strongly in regards to her potential for an autism diagnosis because it feels rude and weird." Susan is one of the most interesting, fully realized characters I have ever read. Watching her grow from straw feminist to be this nuanced, brilliant character without actually losing any of that fire or wrath at injustice, that concern for the oppressed, was an incredible ride. I only started reading in 2018, so it was 16 years gone by in a couple months of fairly dedicated reading, and I cried and I cried. Even now, many scenes are absolute cry buttons for me. Ellen's "humor me" can wreck my composure most days. Susan's "I want to hang out more." Ashley falling apart at the second party when Nanase talks about the painful ways secrecy burns and scars and drives people apart. Liz's expression when Ashley can't talk to her. Susan's rage and the fire in her eyes as she slams the school doors open, knowing she's in this alone. There's so much. Every time I reread it, it etches itself deeper. When I first started reading it, I had only recently discovered I was not a man. I was in my mid-30s and did not know what I was to become, and while logically I knew that was reasonable, it was still a little terrifying to be so rudderless. What I first took for aestivation had proven to be metamorphosis, and I was not comfortable with the slurry I had become in that chrysalis. By the time I caught up on EGS, I knew at the least that I was not as comfortable with he/him pronouns as I had thought I was. Whatever and whoever I was, I needed to move on from that. It was scary, but it was worth it.

#elliot dunkel #elliot egs #egs #egscomics #el goonish shive #infodump #webcomics #webcomic #my cruft

[thisangstriddenschoollifetragedy]

The implications of this comic are so weird. Was Tedd's mother was not around an established plot point at this point?

#tess verres #tedd verres #elliot dunkel #telliot #el goonish shive #egs #tedd's mom

[artificialkids-2k23-official]

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[zeemczed-blog]

If I can ask another pair, maybe Ashley and Elliot if you could? They grow on me way quicker that I expected. (Due to Ashley thing with labels I prefer you skip those parts of the game for her if you don't mind, just a me thing.)

Can do!

GENDER: Elliot is Extremely genderfluid. SEXUALITY: Elliot is Pan! SHIPS: All of `em. They're adorable together, but Ashley/Grace is awesome, Elliot/Tedd is squeeworthy, Elliot/Ashley/Susan is hhhhamazing, Elliot/Noah is something that's gotta happen eventually... BROTP: Canon Ashley/Liz, Elliot/Tedd, Elliot/Sarah, Ashley/George (I don't know why but it feels like they'd click in weird ways). NOTP: Elliot/Diane, Ashley/Liz. BRAINCANONS:

For Ashley:

Is trying to learn Japanese, but isn't very good yet. Key word: Yet.

Her internet girlfriend? Tedd. Neither of them realize this yet.

An absolute chilihead. Loves spicy food, and doesn't get enough of it.

For Elliot:

Has come up with a dozen names for the heretofore-unnamed review show he does with Susan. They all suck.

Probably plural, has no idea what that means but would be super chill with the idea if it was brought up.

Is a really, really good DM, but doesn't homebrew much.

OPINIONS: They're good beans, Jim.

Gimme peeps, I give you headcanons! It's a good trade!

#El Goonish Shive #Elliot Dunkel #Ashley #Headcanons #Askbox game

[cantheykillmacbeth]

Can Ellen Dunkel from El Goonish Shive kill Macbeth?

Yes, Ellen Dunkel from El Goonish Shive could kill Macbeth!

She is a female duplicate of the character Elliot Dunkel, created due to a magical artifact called the Bewitching Diamond. This applies her for all three Clauses!

Thank you for your submission!

#asks #unconventional birth clause #gender clause #birth parent clause #ellen dunkel #el goonish shive

[dizzyhslightlyvoided]

The more I think about Ellen Dunkel, the more I'm struck by how weird her whole concept would be to actually live through.

Like, let's set aside the fact that magic exists and Wacky Transformations are possible, because Elliot and Tedd are familiar with both, and to them it's relatively normal. But Elliot was accidentally transformed into a girl, and the specific method he used to "separate the curse from the cursed" resulted in creating a clone, complete with his mind, except in the girl-form. And "Ellen" (originally an alias Elliot used in front of people who weren't in-the-know about the transformation) became this ... fully-formed flesh-and-blood human being, she's completely real to any mundane or magical test, with Elliot's personality and all his memories up to the split.

After a brief stint of Ellen trying and failing to be Elliot's "evil twin" (she mistakenly thought she was going to disappear when the transformation would have originally worn off), she just started living with Elliot's family as his sister, because what else are you gonna do when you're a female clone of a dude with all his memories? And also she became more introspective than Elliot, in the name of becoming her own separate individual instead of just "a copy of Elliot", because that was kind of do-or-die, so to speak. Elliot and Ellen share a bedroom.

And like. "A clone/duplicate with all your memories" is pretty standard, as far as wacky-science-and/or-magic shenanigans go? But every time I try to imagine living through Ellen's specific situation, on either side, it's like ... I can't fully wrap my head around it! Just the fact of suddenly having someone in your life who's sort-of-"you" except she's an entirely different gender, who knows you better than you know yourself. Or suddenly being a big tiddy AU of yourself, and having to deal with that on top of the fact that you're not "really" yourself, you're a clone, and after you've figured yourself out, your original self doesn't know himself as well as you know him or yourself, and he occasionally says things that make you want to go c'mon, this is dumb, I've already had that personal revelation (and/or we already had that personal revelation before the split). It's a big huge ridiculous and surreal thing, how do you even deal with that!? The page where Edward Verres told Ellen in no uncertain terms that she's a different person from Elliot apparently sparked off a debate about selfhood, and whether a duplicate counts as "you", which ran for at least eleven years after that.

(Upon her creation, Ellen was a complete mess of emotions and confusion, leading to a complete breakdown in less than two minutes. For Elliot's part, his thoughts began and ended with "she's family, help her", and that was that.)

I also feel like it's worth remembering that everything Ellen did immediately after her creation was, by definition, in-character for Elliot. Like Ellen straight-up assumed that she was going to die, and that even if she didn't, Elliot's family would just not accept her on the basis of her being a clone, and so she decided to try to be an "evil twin" and get Elliot into trouble in what little time she had left (until she saw Elliot's new girlfriend and came back to reality). You have to understand that that's what Elliot would have done in those circumstances, and we know this because in a sense, he did. (Add that to the list of things Elliot has clearly not been introspective about ...)

#el goonish shive #ellen dunkel #elliot dunkel #unreality #philosophy #gender #queue continuum

[foundfamilyadoptionagency]

#Elliot Dunkel #El Goonish Shive #no image submitted #no tags submitted #adoption poll

[multiplebirthinwebcomics]

Multiple Births

Round 1 Poll 3

Read El Goonish Shive

Read Schoolbus Graveyard

Submitted context (including spoilers) and propaganda under the line

Ellen and Elliot : While they are twins, they aren't technically "same-birth" because Ellen was a duplicate of a gender-bent Elliot created by a magical artifact.

So, for context, one day Elliot got hit with a magical beam of "turns-you-into-a-hot-girl". In an attempt to disenchant Elliot using the magical artifact the "dewitchery diamond" the enchantment on him was actually extracted and transformed into a whole new person with an entirely new soul: a girl named Ellen, who has all of Elliot's memories, but is her own person. Ellen later gets a second set of fake childhood memories from a non-existent dream alternate universe where, among other things, she was raised as a girl, which helps her personality grow beyond just being a female duplicate of Elliot. All of this to say that the answers to the question "is Ellen Trans?" is "by any real-world definition, technically no. But beyond that, yes, very much so". (Side note: Elliot would later figure out that's he's "gender casual", in part because of Ellen asking him "haven't you ever wondered about the fact that I was able to adjust to being a girl so easily despite having all of your memories?")

Anyways, Elliot immediately viewed Ellen as his sister, and Elliot's parents immediately accepted Ellen as their daughter. Elliot/Ellen's friend Tedd's dad (who works for the part of the government that covers-up the existence of magic & hides it from most of society) used his authority/resources to make it so that all legal documentation says that Ellen is Elliot's twin sister, with the "official" cover-story that:

Mr. And Mrs. Dunkel couldn't afford to support themselves and two children, and could barely afford to keep one (Which. Technically, would have been accurate [since we later find out Mrs. Dunkel had to drop-out of college at 21 when she got pregnant with Elliot]). As a result, Ellen wound up in foster care. Now that the family is financially secure, she's been reunited with them

Regarding the "They fall in love with the same person" cliché, at the start of the comic, Elliot was dating Tedd's cousin Nanase. However, unbeknownst to both Elliot & Nanase at the time, Nanase was actually a Lesbian. Even though she really liked him as a person and they got along really well, she just wasn't interested in him romantically and was going through the motions trying to make the relationship work. She broke up with him when she realized that he had unresolved feelings with one of his childhood friends, because she knew he would be too passive to act on those feelings himself.

Flash forward to the storyline of Ellen's creation, and picture this: You're Nanase, you've recently broken up with the person who was the closest you've been able to get to really feeling something romantic for a guy, and after telling your gay best friend Justin this fact, he starts needling you about the about the possibility that you might be a lesbian, which you deny. But lo and behold, you are face to face with someone who is literally just said ex-boyfriend, but a super hot girl. You get close because you are one of the only people able to comfort her through the very traumatic experience of "being brought into existence with only memories of a life that aren't your own". And you feel things with her that you've never felt before.

Long-story-short, Nanase and Ellen develop mutual feelings for each other, confess said feelings, and become a couple."

Taylor and Tyler : They are each other's whole family (well their mother is alive but not very present since the death of their father). As of the last chapter, one might end up being used as a tragic backstory for the other.

#tournament polls #round 1 #indie webcomic #webcomics #webcomic #indie comics #comicblr #el goonish shive #schoolbus graveyard #school bus graveyard #multibirth tournament

[egsreactions]

#El Goonish Shive #Reaction image #Tedd #Tedd Verres #Sarah #Sarah Brown #Elliot #Elliot Dunkel #Mood: Delight #Mood: Confusion

[do-you-know-this-queer-character]

may i ask who you've had submitted for star trek and also if you've had any submissions from the webcomic el goonish shive 👀

From various Star Trek medias, Elim Garak has been posted already, and in terms of other submissions, I have Jazida Dax, Paul Stamets, Hugh Culber, Adira Tal, Beckett Mariner, Hikaru Sulu, Jett Rino, Gray Tal, Seven of Nine, Andy Billups, and Jennifer Sh'reyan.

For El Goonish Shive, I have submissions for Tedd Verres, Grace Sciuridae, Elliot Dunkel, Ashley, Nanase Kitsune, Ellen Dunkel, Justin Tolkiberry, Diane, and Catalina Bobcat

#why does one character have the scientific family of squirrels as their last name lol #asks #not a poll #Submission check

[lily-of-the-flame]

Elliot Dunkel: S I S T E R

Granted Ellen is actually a duplicate of him. So different situation I guess. Still. I wonder how Ellen would respond to this.

#el goonish shive