#Les Baigneuses

[entre-image-blog]

Les Baigneuses, Otto Mueller

#Peinture #Les Baigneuses #Otto Mueller

[venustapolis]

Las bañistas (Armand Point, 1892)

#art #19th century art #19th century painting #1800s #1890s #armand point #🇫🇷 #les baigneuses #the bathers #1892 #timeless beauty #aeterna venustas #el eterno femenino

[ocearchives]

Les Deux Baigneuses by William Bouguereau

#art #painting #william bouguereau #les deux baigneuses

[les-portes-du-sud]

L’écho demande d’où tu sors,

L’écho l’ignore ; — le rivage

Ne sait de toi que ton courage

Et que les grâces de ton corps.

De qui tiens-tu cette âpre flamme ?

De qui tiens-tu ce bras viril

Qui te fait braver le péril

Du vent qui souffle et de la lame ?

J. Autran

#joseph autran #a une baigneuse #les-portes-du-sud #@kamel #avril 2023

[2t2r]

Baigneurs et baigneuses sur les plages normandes d'Etretat et le Tréport en 1899 [vidéo]

Nouvel article publié sur https://www.2tout2rien.fr/baigneurs-et-baigneuses-sur-les-plages-normandes-detretat-et-le-treport-en-1899-video/

Baigneurs et baigneuses sur les plages normandes d'Etretat et le Tréport en 1899 [vidéo]

#19eme siecle #années 1890 #années 1900 #baigneur #baigneuse #cabine #costume #Etretat #France #Georges Méliès #le treport #mer #normandie #océan #plage #robe #vidéo #vintage #imxok #Insolite

[sibelin]

I don't want people to reblog that AI art post so I'll put my addition here:

One thing that will always make me cringe with those AI imitations of middle to late 19th century art is how the intelligence will always try to match ALL the women figures with the current 21th century beauty standards. Now, of course, I wouldn't be complaining if these kind of images weren't plaguing the "classical art" or "oil painting" tags. But since they are, I will show you what 19th century painting of women really looks like. And yeah, I know, some paintings match with current beauty standards but it's still more complicated than that. "Classic" painting is not all about representing pretty ladies. Otherwise historians of art would be bored.

Okay, if it's a "classic" painting, let's go with neoclassicism which is basically a return to the classic inspirations from antiquity and a return to simplicity after years of the wild Baroque and Rococo of the 18th century. Want to see portraits of women in that time?

(Left : Detail of Portrait de madame de Verninac by Jacques-Louis David, 1979. Right : Portrait de Madame Duvaucey, 1809, Jean-Dominique Ingres).

So far, notice how these two women don't look at all like the women in those fake AI paintings. They are portraits of real women, thus real models. But even when they were painting gods, 19th century painters HAD models! Not only that, they were also inspired by antiquity, which wasn't really doing realism either, they had their own ideals like, to cite one exemple, the really straight noses you always see in greek statues. Well, that's also in neoclassical paintings! Look:

(Detail of La Mélancolie by Constance Marie Charpentier, 1801)

On the other side, you've got two strong opponents (and logical responding movements) to this return to classical culture : Romantism and Realism. Once again, look at the diversity :

(Left: Details of Les foins by Jules Bastien-Lepage, 1877. Right: Jeune orpheline au cimetière, Eugène Delacroix, 1824.)

Realism is pretty self-explanatory. The painters were going back to show normal people, farmers and workers. They weren't here to make them beautiful or to conform to beauty standards but to show the world as it is. Result was a lot of controversies, notably with Courbet and Les baigneuses, a representation of a strong woman in an unflatering pose and dirt on her feet that shook the beauty standards so dear to the academic ideals of his times. Check it out if you're interested, there's plenty of articles about it. And romanticism? Once again very diverse. Just look at pre-romantism, with Goya, who loooved representing fucked up little scenes. Or with Delacroix, here with one of his most famous portrait (Jeune orpheline au cimetière) probably because of the expression, the pose, everything that makes that girl look alive, real, unique.

But wait.... You've already seen classical paintings were the ladies looked like all the ladies nowadays, right? Maybe you've seen those very pretty pre raphaelites paintings with those women that look kinda like Florence Welch. Maybe you've seen academic art, the most palatable of 19th century style when it comes to beauty norms. And it's true, it could be similar to these prompted AI classical babes, except once again, it's not. Because once again, they had models, and models were different from paintings to paintings. And this is this systematic same face vibes that makes AI so boring. Because even when real historical art comes close to that, it is always way way way more rich and full of surprises.

(left : The North-West Passage by John Everett Millais, 1878. Middle: Detail of Contemplation by John William Godward, 1922. Right: Detail of La Naissance de Vénus by William Bouguereau, 1879)

Then, you have all these art styles that AI weirdly stays away from : those where the style and process is so strong, so much more important than the subject, that it would be hard to copy without noticing the difference. It could be impressionism, it could be symbolism or better, it could be the avant-garde artists that announces then blends into the wild, colorful and tortured art of the first half of the 20th century.

(Left: Le chemin de fer by Edouard Manet, 1973. Middle: I lock my door upon myself by Fernand Khnopff, 1891, Right: Jane Avril by Henri de Toulouse Lautrec, 1892)

Conclusion/ TLDR : If fake historical AI art becomes more realistic every day, it will never be as rich and diverse as the real deal because it will always be used to appease an algorithm for people who just want to see pretty images that catters to them and never challenge their views. When it comes to beauty norm, this could be dangerous and make people believe that these was always how women looked like. That all girls were born with removed buccal fat and symmetrical faces, even in old paintings. I don't know, it may be nothing, but it may be something. Thank you for those who read all that and I hope see many cool paintings in museums :)

Addition: This is of course a very european centric vision of art but it's what the AI will take inspiration from anyway. For the same reasons, these paintings are very white but I was also trying to avoid the icky orientalist representations that were so trendy in the 19th century. Note that there is an even better diversity in paintings when you open your eyes to non-european centric art.

(If I see a terf reblogging this, i'm blocking on sight)

#history of art #art #classical art #paintings #anti AI #ai #long post

[random-brushstrokes]

Honoré Daumier - A zealous student practicing at home, plate 6 from Les Baigneuses (1847)

#honoré daumier #french art #1840s

[balkanparamo]

Les Baigneuses (The Bathers) ~ 1892 ~ Armand Point (French artist, 1860-1932)

#art #painting #bathers #armand point

[oldsardens]

Jean Messagier - Les Baigneuses. 1962

#Jean Messagier

[beatricecenci]

Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun (French, 1755-1842)

Julie Lebrun en baigneuse

#Neoclassicism #Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun #French Art #Art #Female Artists

[gacougnol]

Nelson Evans

Baigneuse alanguie sur le sable , ca. 1925

#nelson evans

[justineportraits]

Charles Camoin Les Grandes Baigneuses 1963

#charles camoin

[detournementsmineurs]

“La Dame des Mers” bois gravé de Paul-Emile Colin (1894) à l'accrochage “Collections Révélées #1 - Le Temps des Baigneuses" au Musée de Pont-Aven, Bretagne, mai 2023.

#expos #illustrations #mermaids #fairies #lune #Colin #MuseePontAven #Bretagne #Quimperle

[mermaidenmystic]

Les baigneuses by François Lafon (French painter, 1846-1913)

[tauremornalome]

Baigneuse rose par Félix Vallotton (artiste franco-suisse)

Je constate qu'avec le tournement d'art je fais deja "assez" pour la culuture polonaise sur tumblr XD et il faut toujours que je pratique mon francais... alors pour Speak Your Language Day j'ai choisi une peinture dont je suis recemment tombée amoureuse, présentée au Musée d'Orsay a Paris. J'adore cette composition simple et tendre, et les couleurs sont encore plus belles vues en direct au musée <3

@polish-art-tournament

#l9

[artthatgivesmefeelings]

William-Adolphe Bouguereau (French, 1825-1905) Les Deux Baigneuses (The Two Bathers), 1884 Art Institute Chicago

#bouguereau #1800s #french #french art #different colour and quality #art #fine art #european art #classical art #europe #france #brunette #women #woman #european #oil painting #fine arts #mediterranean #europa #female portrait #female #the bathers #two bathers #the two bathers #les deux baigneuses