BUCK & EDDIE ACTUAL SIZES: A Thorough Essay, Part 1
(I would post this all at once but the new tumblr thingee only lets me post 10 photos at a time, and THAT WILL NOT DO)
Alright folks, have a seat! Today we’re going to discuss the REAL size difference between Eddie and Buck once and for all. There are too many discrepancies at the moment, so I'm going to burn an unGodly amount of time I should be using to work to set the record straight gay bi.
Currently, based off of a good deal of collective fandom description, Buck looks like this:
And Eddie looks like this:
This discrepancy presents itself in many ways, from Clothing Sharing fanfics that show Buck *HULK SMASH* splitting all the seams of Eddie’s clothes, and the reverse of Eddie veritably swimming in Buck’s clothes (wHy to both??). Then there’s Eddie having to get in his ippy tippy toes to kiss Buck (nope), or Buck having to bend alllllllll the way down to kiss Eddie (also no). Onwards we have descriptions of hugs where Buck holds Eddie in his arms, delicate and small like a wee starved orphan and Eddie struggling to reach all the way around Buck’s *HULK SMASH* massive girth... I can go on, but I think I’ve made my point. (actually one more: What the fuck is up with giving Buck massive hands and Eddie lil teeny tiny ones?? ‘Kay I’m done now) Okay, onward to the important corrections accompanied by useful visual references.
Note: I will be going over various proportions, from head to hands, to height to torso size to musculature--and for musculature I will go by season since that changes quite a bit (but NEVER ENOUGH to justify the descriptions above). ALSO fair warning, once you have seen the proportions I will point out, you CANNOT unsee them.
(More underneath the cut to save your dash ^3^)
Let's start with the most basic: height. This is simply done with a Google search--Oliver Stark is 6'2 and Ryan Guzman is 6' exactly. So Buck and Eddie are two inches apart. Enough to be noticeable but hardly enough that anyone has to stretch/duck to reach anything.
Why torso, you ask? Well, for buddie it actually makes a large impact on the above mentioned height difference, you'll see what I mean in a minute:
Have a good long look at that. Wardrobe dressed them the same and it is going to help illustrate this IMMENSELY (thank you, wardrobe! ^3^)
What do your elf eyes see?
Correct, Ryan Guzman's torso is A LOT LONGER than Oliver Stark's! Why is this important? Well for one thing, it creates the illusion that Oliver is even taller when they're standing up, since Oliver's short torso gives him gorgeous legs FOR DAYSSSSS. It also means their belt lines are miles apart, despite being almost the same height, which again makes Ryan look artificially shorter at first glance. Don't let yourselves be fooled though--remember, height is only measured in one thing: How far the top of their heads are from that off-white ceiling.
The other reason their torso height difference is very important is this:
Do you see it yet? K one more:
That's correct!! Because his torso is longer, EDDIE IS TALLER THAN BUCK WHEN THEY'RE SITTING DOWN. Proportions are wild, I know XD
Part 2 coming up! In it we'll discuss head size, hand size, and the highly anticipated (and highly contested) mUSculAtuRE :)
Many thanks to @blutterlie, our discussion on this topic is what inspired this post! And thank you also to @trashendence for sending me the wardrobe photo where they're dressed the same, I could not find that thing to save MY LIFE!
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I typically don’t make content like this but I feel as if we need to open this conversation up. Please educate yourself before commenting.
Toxic mlm shipping is homophobic.
mlm shipping is almost exclusively a straight women’s fantasy. However, I don’t mean the people who want two male characters to get together. I mean specifically, the ones who are damaging the LGBTQAI+ community without even realizing it.
To bring in some real life examples, I’ll talk about ‘buddie’. For those who don’t know, this is a ship between the characters Evan “Buck” Buckley and Eddie Diaz on the show 9-1-1. The show has many forms of representation from a black lesbian couple to a black gay couple to an interracial straight couple. Not to mention; a kid with mobility issues and complex family dynamics. It’s spin-off show 9-1-1: Lone Star has an interracial gay couple, a muslim woman firefighter, a black transgender man and even representation of learning disabilities. So to say that it is a well represented show is an understatement. Yet, all I see online about the show is how by not making buddie a canon ship (aka: written on the show) the show is queerbaiting. Or how the actors must feel uncomfortable acting as gay men. Or people harassing the showrunner who is a gay man. Or people hating the character’s female love interests and the actresses who portray them (which is sexist but that's a whole nother conversation). I am so tired of this.
Harassing the actors online is not going to make the ship canon. All you are doing is causing harm and stigma around not playing gay characters (which people actually in the LGBTQAI+ have talked about being unfair to actual gay actors who struggle to get parts because of their sexuality). You are harassing an gay man in real life just for a ship.
Now let’s back up a little to why I think mlm ships at least half the time are just straight women putting their sexual fantasies onto these men. In the spin-off of this show, the ship for the gay couple (tarlos) is based on how attractive the actors are. If you were to look up that ship on tumblr, you’ll see mostly gifs of on screen hookups between the characters and then less popular gifs of their actual relationship. In the original 9-1-1, the gay men in this show are older but have an adorable love story. But they aren’t shown sexually so no one in the fandom talks about them or gifs them. The fandom brushes them aside and eventually the show had to as well since it wasn’t a popular story line.
When all you’re looking for is sex between mlm characters, you are not supporting the LGBTQAI+. You are not an ally. Yet the same people will pat themselves on the back for “speaking up for the community” that they are not even apart of.
9-1-1 was the first show I thought of (as it is currently airing new episodes), but not the only show this has happened in. Teen Wolf was another. People harassed and read into everything Dylan Sprayberry and Cody Christian did. As well as Dylan O’Brien and Tyler Hoechlin. Rumors started about Cody Christian being homophobic and uncomfortable playing a gay character (not true btw). Sebastian Stan and Anthony Mackie is another (although the MCU truly doesn’t have good representation for the community). The list can keep going. Straight women cause harm and ignore the cries of the actual LGBTQAI+. There are real issues in representation but they get drowned out as out of control fans talk over us. Most of the shows I listed have other gay characters that the fans just don’t like. Probably because they are actually portrayed as gay and not as “normal” straight men. Just admit you like the idea and sexual component to gay relationships and not actual gay relationships.
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