#antitransmasculinity

[songofsonnets]

the idea that testosterone is a dangerous hormone that inherently makes someone domineering and difficult to be around is transphobic all round, leaning on bioessentialism.

for trans men and transmascs, we are warned against medical transition for fear that we may lose our agreeableness and perceived passivity. we are seen as potential aggressors after going on it.

trans woman and transfems have any testosterone in their system, whether on hrt or not, held over them like an original sin that can not be escaped that positions them as more aggressive and dangerous. it is seen as something that threatens their womanhood and can be brought up against them at any time to revoke it.

testosterone is not an evil hormone. it does not change your moral character. it does good for some and bad for others, like any other hormone.

#testosterone #hrt #transphobia #transmisogyny #antitransmasculinity #anti transmasculinity

[threads-and-pages]

Young trans men will come online, looking for community, guidance, and support only to be pushed away and mocked for expressing any vulnerability and insecurity, as if they were naive to think they deserved any ounce of care.

The cruelty is especially jarring when it's presented as some sort of common sense. Is it common sense to tell trans boys, because some of these people are boys, 13-15-17 years old, that they should expect and accept adversarial reactions because of their boyhood and masculinity because that's just what being a man is?

These are trans people, trans children, which everyone seems to care about so much when it comes to legislation, but a lot less when they actually express needs and wants beyond 'I wanna be alive'

why can't trans boys be met with comfort when they express their pain to older members of the community?

What kind of trans elder are you going to be if in your twenties and thirties you are telling trans boys that it's normal for other queer and trans people to isolate them because of their gender?

A shit elder, that's what you are going to be, a shit fucking elder who at best will be left alone in your toxic circles and at worst will actively harm younger trans people.

#antitransmasculinity #atm #transandrophobia

[luckynein]

So glad to see this post getting attention! It kills me when I see people ignorantly using that disgusting meme.

#antitransmasculinity #transandrophobia #trans #Brandon Teena

[transvarmint]

The reason why you can't seperate our transness from our manhood is the exact same reason why transmisogyny is one word.

Its not just transphobia and misogyny. It's transmisogyny. The discrimination transfems face isn't discretely divided into 2 categories. Those experiences overlap in a way where you can't adequately address one without acknowledging the other. That's why it was crucial to come up with vocabulary to describe this intersection. To seperate them is to attempt to erase intersectionality.

In the same way, you can't adequately address the oppression transmascs face without addressing all aspects of our identity.

Manhood and/or masculinity in isolation may not be targeted by a specific axis of oppression; but when they intersect with a marginalized identity, they become a target for gendered violence. Because our manhood does not, and cannot, exist removed from the context of our transness and life experiences. That is the entire purpose of intersectionality.

To remove our manhood / masculinity from that equation is to refuse to view us holistically, and is an attempt to seperate us from our identity - exactly the same way transphobes do.

The term intersectionality was coined by Kimberlé Crenshaw, a black woman, who was pointing out that her various identities do not exist independently, rather, they inform each other, and create a convergence of social positions.

White feminists did not (and often still don't) acknowledge the ways that other axes of identity and oppression inform misogyny. They excluded women of color from the conversation because they did not want to discuss how racism intersects with misogyny. There was similar silencing of queer and disabled women, as well, for the same reason.

By telling us "it's because you're trans, not because you're men" you're just repeating history. The marginalization of non-hegemonic manhood and masculinity is a very real axis that must be addressed when discussing the oppression of trans men and transmascs - as well as other marginalized men.

If you refuse to hear about this aspect of our experience, our voices will never truly be heard. You are actively contributing to our erasure and to our continued harm.

I am a transgender man. I am a whole person. Treat me as such.

#transandrophobia #transmisandry #antitransmasculinity

[cyberatioum]

A society that hates cis women will also hate trans men. In addition to suffering all the misogyny directed at cis women, trans men will also suffer the misogyny that interacts with transphobia.

Stop conceptualizing trans men as if they have the same position as cis men within the patriarchy.

#transandrophobia #antitransmasculinity

[trans-androgyne]

Please love transmascs in a world that hates us. I’m begging you not to blindly adhere to the narrative that insists we have it easy.

We experience the highest sexual violence rates of any gender category. We are being assaulted and killed. Dominant narratives consider us delusional, mentally ill little girls. Others treat us as violent sexual predators. Our reproductive abilities are considered unnatural and disgusting. We experience adverse health outcomes. We are left out of conversations and erased from histories.

We also experience the increased bullying, discrimination, suicidality, substance use issues, homelessness, poverty, etc. that come with being transgender.

Please love transmascs in a world that hates us.

#the erasure sources are lacking bc. how do you cite erasure. but these are ppl we treat as women who maybe weren’t #transphobia #trans #transgender #transmasc #ftm #transmisandry #antitransmasculinity #transandrophobia #lgbt #mine #resources

[intersexfairy]

"T makes you a mansplainer" so true! i never shut up about how much i love men and being a man. like have you seen men? especially trans and intersex men? they're literally the meaning of life. some of the most beautiful beings on this planet. i could listen to them talk forever. what? you meant to insult me? oh well haha that sounds like a you problem. anyway i love testosterone. poison? more like self love potion. i love me.

#ifairy #intersex #trans #trans man #transmasc #transman #trans boy #transboy #transmasculine #transmasc positivity #trans man positivity #ftm #ftm positivity #intersex positivity #trans positivity #transandromisia #transandrophobia #antitransmasculinity #antitransmasc #gay #gay man #gay men #mlm #testosterone #gaht #hrt #T

[genderkoolaid]

really like viewing anti transmasculinity through the lens of consumability. because ive seen so often things be framed as "transmasculinity isn't as interrogated because masculinity isn't as scrutinized" but I think it's much better to view it as transmasculinity being unpalatable to transphobic misogyny. like part of how the patriarchy constructs womanhood is that it is inherently desirable in the sense that women Must be something to be consumed. any part of woman(-ified people) that isn't palatable (body hair, bodily functions) is erased.

#m. #also I don't think that patriarchy is controlled By the desires of cishet men its more that forcing women Et Al to exist for cishet men's #consumption keeps in place the social dynamics which create power #antitransmasculinity #transandrophobia

[dariaxjane]

@pallpokipoki is a terf psyop blog trying to sow division between transmascs and transfems. they use the language transmascs coined to describe their own oppression to make the claim that transfems are "amab supremacists" and that transmasc advocacy should be "sex conscious". (aka reduce people to their agab.) block and report them. anyone who tries to claim that one type of trans person is out to get another type of trans person is a fed and they do not deserve legitimacy in our communities.

#transphobia #transandrophobia #transmisandry #antitransmasculinity #transmisogyny

[songofsonnets]

i do not like the term transandrophobia, i would like to briefly summarise why.

to me, the term transandrophobia implies that androphobia exists and it does not. men are not systemically oppressed by any means and it is strange, to me, to have that term there to validate that. even if you think of black men, disabled men, queer men, etc, it is not on strictly terms of their maleness that they are oppressed. taking an intersectional approach, we can indeed acknowledge how gender modifies how one may experience racism, ableism, queerphobia etc but i think implying men face significant institutional barriers is foolhardy at best.

i dislike how the term is used as opposition to transmisogyny. the oppression of trans men and transmascs works in tandem and as an symbiotic amplifier to the oppression of trans women and transfems, not as opposition. trans women and transfems do not benefit from ‘transandrophobia’ the way it is implied. they can not tangibly oppress us. the theorist Nsambu Za Suekama very particularly pointed this out with anti-transmasculinity.

that does lead to my next point which is that i believe anti transmasculinity is a better term altogether. it points out the link with transmisogynoir and how colonised people are policed by it in particular, removing gender expanses to justify a singular white cishet patriarchy nexus. please read her work for an introduction:

i think it is fine for transmascs and men to have language to describe the particular nuances of how transphobia affects us but we can do so much better than something like transandrophobia.

https://www.patreon.com/qittycorner ⬅️this her patreon so pay her if you appreciate her work

#anti transmasculinity #antitransmasculinity #transandrophobia #transmisogyny #transmisogynoir

[intersexcat-tboy]

The reason why transmascs talk about how they still expierence misogyny (in addition to/it's a part of antitransmasculinity) is bc the way we're often spoken to and treated is very similar (if not exactly the same) to how we were treated before coming out

#anti transmasculinity #transandrophobia #transandromisia #antitransmasculinity #misogyny

[luckynein]

I see twitter is continuing to pretend that there is no connection between transmasculine oppression and demonization of testosterone.

When you contribute to the harmful, deadly, idea that testosterone poisons or damages people, you are joining hands with the transphobes who are currently attacking trans healthcare. That’s a fact. If you don’t like being aligned with transphobes, don’t repeat their rhetoric and pretend it hurts us less because you are also trans. It doesn’t hurt less when it comes from the community you’re meant to be part of, it suppresses and isolates us.

#trans #antitransmasculinity #transandrophobia #transmisandry

[transvarmint]

Have seen a reoccurring talking point in which people claim that non-passing transmascs and GNC women are not subject to violence like non-passing transfems and GNC men are.

And I just frankly want to know what reality these people are living in. As someone who grew up in the Bible Belt, feminine gender roles are violently enforced on us, to a very extreme degree. Often through means such as beatings and sexual assault. And if not physically, then through emotional abuse and social isolation.

Especially as reproductive rights are being taken away at alarming rates, gender roles are being more heavily enforced, and our lack of reproductive autonomy is used as a means of control.

To see people say we don't face violence when we don't conform is absolutely gutwrenching. Especially when it comes from fellow trans people, and even more so when they claim to be transfeminists.

Like, I cannot fathom not just making such an absurd claim, but then using it as a bludgeon to silence us. And often it's used to claim that we're not just "less" oppressed, but that we ourselves are oppressors!!

It makes me feel like I'm in the twilight zone

#transandrophobia #transmisandry #antitransmasculinity

[cyberatioum]

This is such an anti-transmasc, entitled and honestly sexist thread.

Trans men don't exist to serve and idolize you, they own you nothing.

Trans men's place is not subservience to transfems (but solidarity).

Trans men will continue to be targeted by misogyny even if they turn a blind eye on their social situation, even if you try to shame them by calling them “birthay boys” when they acknowledge being oppressed.

''Being a man'' does not mean denying that you are oppressed because you are recognized by society as a woman or as a gender considered worthy of being subjected to misogyny. You are trying to push patriarchal expectations on a gender oppressed group.

This is the type of person who will exhort trans men to "be men" (adopt patriarchal gender roles) and use that and their identity against them when it will suits them. Anything a trans man does will be used against him.

#transandrophobia #anti transmasculinity #transmasc #antitransmasculinity #transmasculine #trans #lgbtqia #queering #nonbinary #transphobia #patriarchy #feminism

[trans-androgyne]

Hi everyone, I’ve just created a community on Reddit to discuss transandrophobia. I don’t know about all of you but I really need to get off this site right now, but don’t want to stop talking about transmasc experiences. I figure it’ll help give us a fresh start and make it easier to keep TERFs and transandrophobes out. I’d love to have help filling it out a bit. It’s r/transandrophobia. Thank you.

Edit: I’d appreciate a reblog for visibility if you get a chance! Tysm <3

#transandrophobia #transmisandry #antitransmasculinity #atm #transmasc #ftm #mine #anti transmasculinity

[pallpokipoki]

Transfems are trying to disempower afabs not so that amabs and afabs have equal group powers in queer/progressive/leftist contexts, so that there is no longer domination by any agab, but they are specifically trying to establish amab domination and therefore subjugate afabs because they fear that if afabs are not under amab control they will almost inevitably reconstitute themselves as a terf political force, and therefore reproduce transfem oppression.

The subjugation of afabs to amabs is therefore seen as a way of minimizing the risk of the terf threat, a way to keeping it under control.

You have to get it into your head that transfems see afabs, whether cis, trans or non-binary, as a terf threat.

#transandrophobia #transmasc #trans man #transmasculine #transmisandry #trans #transgender #transandromisia #antitransmasculinity #afab #nonbinary #genderqueer