#batwrites

[bi-bats]

Tim snatches Jason’s helmet from him and treats him to a taste of his own medicine, standing on his tiptoes to reach up and push it onto Jason’s head. “Get on the bike, sweetheart,” Tim throws back in his face.

And fuck, is he glad that Tim didn’t say that last bit until the helmet was over his head, because whatever Jason’s face just did can’t have been normal.

He’s so surprised he can’t even think of anything to say. He just stands there blinking like a fucking idiot under his helmet as Tim’s eyes crinkle in the corners, the way they do whenever he’s winning.

“Oh, look at that, you’re blushing down to your neck,” Tim says, and Jason doesn’t need to be able to see his mouth, he can hear the grin on Tim's lips.

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Day 2's fic for Jaytimweek is up! If you've seen the snippets about Tim's beloved mochaccino in the jaytim tag, this is the fic those are from!

#jaytimweek2023 #jaytim #jaytim fic #batwrites #sorry it went up late!!! #my day EXPLODED #enjoy 💚💚💚 #this is by FAR my longest jtw fic jsyk #jaytimweek #jaytimweek day 2

[10-pints]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Call of Duty (Video Games) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: John "Soap" MacTavish/Simon "Ghost" Riley Characters: John "Soap" MacTavish, Simon "Ghost" Riley Additional Tags: Fluff, Established Relationship, Far Future, Domestic, Haircuts Summary:

How many a moon will it take To make a forever lover of a stranger?

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There was something so warm about the thought of too-tall grass covering all the decades of love that was poured into a place where people brought their loved ones to be buried. As if, somehow, the grass took care of them, laying a gentle blanket over the forgotten lost.

Perhaps not a place for a wedding, but God, what a place to be loved.

#soapghost #ghostsoap #soap mactavish #simon ghost riley #mw2 #cod #batwrites

[artfromsaturn]

 Previous Dresses: Scarecrow | Riddler, Ra’s, Two-face, & Penguin

I think this will be the last of my Batman Villain Lolita Post for now, with a few of the more challenging villains.  Again, feel free to make your own designs or use these in some way, the more the merrier. :D  

A few thoughts underneath the read more + alt colors for Zsazs & Killer Moth

Black version for Zsazs to keep with his pants & classic Killer Moth:

Pyg: I think he’s one of the most Devianart Edgelord of the Batman villains, but his portrayal in Arkham Knight was done well enough that I warmed up to him.  His plastic surgery nightmare face design is fun and the reactions of the victims & other people worked well, and showed Lazlo as terribly messed up instead of cool edgelordsona.  Like, you know, a person who’d exist.  Good job Batwriters. 

Anyway I leaned towards the guro lolita + simple butcher look his comic and his game designs went for.  There are extra additions of frills for both a more “doll”ish look and a touch of ita, since tacky feels part of his character.  I didn’t want to just make a mask so I framed the hair as “pigtails” (what else?).  I think some make up would add to the look to make the doll idea and the pig idea go farther.  The pattern on the bottom of the skirt and boots is supposed to be those chain link people you can cut from a piece of paper that all hold hands, all perfect, like Pyg declares his dollitrons.  I’m not sure how successful the transparent apron is but at the end oft the day I like it and that’s what counts.

Freeze: This design might lean too much towards literal costume and less into a more practical interpretation of the design, but I can’t help it, I like the Tron and glowy stuff aesthetic.  Doing a retro futuristic lolita look was too fun of an idea to pass up.  Not much has changed outside of converting it to a dress and turning the gauntlets into Miku bell sleeves.  Snowflake earrings & delicate hair for Fries’ one true love & because they’re pretty.

Black Mask: I didn’t want to do all skulls since there’s enough dresses out there that do that, so I ended up with the mask part of his name.  Made sure to give the rich colors of a mobster along with the swag of the suit as well.  I think this one could be designed to be better and less busy (to fit in with the sleekness of Black Mask’s look more) but I wanted to go a bit over the top because why not, Lolita’s very theatrical.  

Ventriloquist: Ok, this is a silly one.  This is nice and casual lolita that doesn’t look too close to Wesker, but that’s because Wesker’s design is supposed to be intentionally plain and meek.  Without the (badly drawn, sorry) Tommy gun purse & Scarface, I don’t think he’s recognizable.  That’s not a bad thing - him and Scarface complement each other perfectly and make a memorable design.  So I did my best to make a cute casual coord and add the few touches to make it look more like Wesker, & drew a teeny Scarface to show such.  I wish I could have done more to reference Peyton Riley/the second Ventriloquist but all I could capture was the color since her design is also very simple. 

Scarface himself only got colors that were closer to the outfit.  I didn’t fancy him up too much since I think it would mess with the gangster look he has, which is already close to aristocrat fashion in the lolita world.  He was lucky not to get extra frills at the ends of his sleeves!

Zsazs: another mainly Arkham Design.  Most of mine are based partially on Arkham since that’s where I get most of my Batman fix, apologies!  Anyway, I just liked the idea of a skin-flesh dress with the locks and buckles of the Arkham prisoner jacket/uniform.  The bell sleeves already being on him made this a lot easier.  I left a spot open where I was going to draw the bat symbol, but I decided against it.

Killer Moth: Top are his Arkham Asylum Artwork colors since I think they’re very nice.  Went for a cute little 1960s inspired fur coat & bob, as his design is already psychedelic. Gave a fun flower crown to round out the colors & hold up some cute moth antenna.

Firefly: His The Batman design was the most unique to pull from and a good starting point to make an outfit.  I took some inspiration of the warning stripes, junk around the belt, & burnt skin tights from the Arkham version too.  *ellis voice* I ever tell you about the time Keith and I made fireworks? Otherwise, his design would have been much harder to work with considering it’s mostly a solid suit with not many features in his apperances.  It would have had to be more abstract if I went for one of those.  

But yeah his The Batman design and designs spinning off from it kick ass, so I did a sporty-ish look.  I hope the bonnet doesn’t look too silly, I just wanted headware that differed the outfit from Killer Moth better.

Strange: Another design that had to go with the Arkham look.  Strange is a classic villain with his face being one of his big, defining features.  This is a great thing in character design, it just means it’s harder to make an outfit around it! 

I love the classic mad scientist look so I didn’t stray too far from it, it looks fun medical Lolita already. All I really did was add the medical book brain pattern (thank you British Library) + little bats, because of course he’d have bats on his brain.  It’s also a nod to his habit of Batman Cosplay & impersonation.

A few people I thought of but didn’t make dresses for:

Joker - He’s fabulous, I just didn’t feel jokery & wanted to focus on others more.

Catwoman, Harley, & Ivy - All three ladies have so many designs it’s hard to choose.  They have so much more freedom with their designs than most of the male crooks.  I’d have to make like... 4+ outfits for each just like I did with Scarecrow if I was to ever be satisifed. ;w;

Mad Hatter, White Rabbit - All the Alice themed supervillains have been done as Lolita Coords by Lolita fashion already since, well, Alice was a big inspiration for the fashion in general. I’d be down for them but I just felt bad because I couldn’t think of how to separate them from others as well as I could, like how I made Black Mask’s design more elaborate as to make sure the themes and connections to the villain was clear rather than just a skull design.

Killer Croc & Man-bat: Also hard to differ between a general animal-themed coord and them.  

Thanks, hope you guys are enjoying your new year so far. :D

#batman villains #batman fanart #batman #mr. freeze #batman arkham series #arkhamverse #lolita #hugo strange #killer moth #firefly #zsazs #arnold wesker

[muffinmonstah-art]

Thougts on brucebabs?

I don't actively ship it. For me, Bruce and Dick are the true soulmates, BUT I love that Bruce Timm was true to himself and his taste in ships and made BruBabs a thing instead of Piece of shit DickBabs. Batman The Animated Series, and also the Arkhamverse, are the most important adaptations and the definitive incarnations of the Batman mythos in my eyes. And BruBabs is a beautiful humility lesson for certain insufferable retconed ship and it's fanbase.

I also don't get along with people like Linkara who want to push the deaged Barbara agenda and want to cancel BruBabs for being inmoral and like an incest thing between father and daughter. Pfffft. Do these people even know Barbara's original story? You know, that one where she was an adult close to Bruce's age back when she was first introduced, because she was meant to be a love interest for Batman? Lmao.

Deaged Barbara Is nothing more than a Batwriter agenda creation that was forcefully injected to this character to make DickBabs the teenage romance on the eyes of the puritan comicbros. DickBabs itself is a stinky agenda to keep Dick Grayson on the Batfam property. We all know DC writers don't like it when Batman characters interact with other DC properties too much...

Barbara was never meant to be Bruce's daughter, she was never supposed to have Dick's age. Calling BruBabs problematic is idiotic on my eyes. I say, leave Bruce Timm to ship BruBabs in peace already.

So in other words, I'm okay with BruBabs. I'm okay with every ship that ends up fucking DickBabs on every single media. I root for DickBabs to get fucked.

#Asks

[danny-chase]

TBH, I think the batwriters got Dick back and didn't realize what Marv Wolfman had done with him beyond "logical conclusions of a young man's character development which go without saying" and "disco costume". Like, in NTT, whenever Bruce is mentioned, Dick acts like a classic abused child defending his abuser, normalizing it. Bruce does not come off well. So, a lot of Dick's behavior in 90s batbooks is pretty messed up, and the writers don't even know why.

While agree some aspects of his character got lost over time, I would push back on the writers not knowing why Dick's behavior is messed up in the 90s batbooks - especially in the case of Chuck Dixon's writing. We're pretty much supposed to make the connection that things like this:

Nightwing (1996) #12

Are why Dick has his perfectionism and other issues with Bruce

#cw child abuse #like at the best Dixon portrays Bruce as super emotionally neglectful #it's pretty clear that the writers know how fucked up their relationship is #and are continuing to write it in a fucked up way #asks #anon #undescribed

[fortressofserenity]

Not so useless

I personally believe if writers took Stephanie Brown’s habit of sewing seriously, she could turn out to be one of the more useful members of the Batfamily. But in the sense that she’s the person they turn to if they want their outfits repaired and/or if they want a new outfit at all, with Batman’s funding Stephanie Brown could easily build a successful career off of sewing alone.

Pixar’s Edna Mode may not sew, but on the other hand I feel she is how Stephanie Brown should’ve been. The person they’d turn to if they want to wear something useful for the occasion, not to mention Stephanie herself would know what she really wants to wear. The possibilities are endless if they took her habit of sewing more seriously, if because it might be her biggest saving grace.

But that would mean she’s really good at something else, something writers don’t bother considering or begin understanding how useful she could really be. People would turn to her if they want an outfit fixed, commission her to do outfits for them and stuff. It’s not a stretch for her to build a career in sewing, she could’ve gone on as Gotham’s greatest dressmaker.

That’s a path never taken by DC writers, this is coming from somebody who has made a career out of selling blouses. I know how to sew, so I feel while Stephanie’s fashion sense wouldn’t be identical to mine, I would know what she needs to do or wills to do. Too bad, it seems not too many Batwriters are into fashion and sewing even if these are the things Stephanie herself would gravitate to.

I even think she’d be less of a bimbo this way, in the sense that she knows what others want to wear and what she herself wants to wear. But that involves not only taking her more seriously, but also realising there’s something she’s real good at and one that should make her valuable to Bruce Wayne in a way fighting skills don’t do.

#stephanie brown #dc comics #batman

[fancyfade]

Yeah, but Damian shaming people about the environment would lead to modern bat-editorial saying wait, Ra's Al Ghul has a motive? (Seriously, modern batwriters are as clueless about him as Devin Grayson essentially making him a troll who sends fake grandparents to Dick for some reason never explained.)

omg i forgot that existed until you reminded me why would you do that to me anon ;_;

Society if DC writers remembered Ra's has a motive

[Image: the ‘society if’ meme, showing the futuristic city with tall skyscrapers that are shiny and flying cars and a park and a guy walking a robot dog. end image]

#anon #ask #ras al ghul #dc comics

[ambelle]

TBH, I think creator preference for DickBabs is simpler. Both of them existed outside the batbooks, Dick in New Teen Titans, Babs in Suicide Squad, doing more interesting things, and the batwriters hate that. So anchor each other.

Yeah the point of DB is to ground/trap them but we were specifically talking about why they keep dragging Starfire into it.

#anonymous

[milfzatannaz]

Help girl

They keep implying that Bruce Wayne is so cosy with magic he has John hanging on the batcave to see his occult collection -last batgirls issue with Zee

I think every batwriter who wants to namedrop John should read the first Hellblazer run entirely before they ever think to use him as a magic consultant

wait what? john was in a batgirls issue? ok damn throw the whole fucking company away I can’t keep dealing with “john is the bestie you call for magic advice” I never want him to interact with a bat ever again

#answered

[bi-bats]

trick or treat!! 3-sentence fic or wip sneak peak? (up to u!)

HELLOOOOO MY BELOVED!! HAPPY HALLOWEEENNNNNNNN

For YOU I have a snippet of the one shot I'm working on that was like. supposed to be a drabble for the prompt you sent me and has gotten. long. lmao.

also it's going to be a fic with smut in it and I haven't even gotten to the smut yet and it's already 2.5k words lmao

so here my TRIUMPHANT RETURN TO WRITING JAYTIM

~ ✨ ~

“Do you… well… I mean… I could give you a massage?”

Jason blinks at him.

“Did… I’m sorry. Did you just say you could give me a massage?”  

Tim’s face burns furiously hot. What does he say, no? 

Well. He kind of wants to say no, actually. Maybe he can just gaslight his way out of this one—

No, no. Jason heard. 

Damn. 

He tries to say yes, but it tilts up into a question at the end. 

“Yes?” 

Jason blinks at him, and Tim’s skin feels too tight. The material of the couch is suddenly itchy on the back of his arms, but the heat on his face distracts him from it. Mostly.

“…Okay.” 

There’s a stutter in Tim’s breathing, the slightest hitch between in and out, right after Jason answers. It’s unnoticeable.

If you aren’t a bat.

Jason raises an eyebrow, because of course he fucking noticed.

Tim can’t just sit there while Jason looks at him like that, so he moves. 

He shifts forward on the couch, scooting an inch or two closer and waving his hands in what he hopes is a gesture indicating ‘turn around so I can rub your shoulders’ and not ‘I have no idea what to do with my hands right now this is so awkward why did I offer this oh my god’. 

He’s probably fine. The gesture for that would have had more flapping. 

Probably. 

It still takes Jason a second to get in gear. He shrugs, tilting his head to the side in a way that says something like ‘eh, why not’, which isn’t exactly what Tim had been hoping for when offering to touch a guy he’s had a crush on since he knew what crushes were, but he’s letting Tim do it, so it’s better than rejecting—

Jason slides his shirt off in a smooth motion, reaching over the back of his head to grab the neck of it and tug it off. 

It’s like one of those fucking thirst trap reels on Instagram.

Tim was just watching him move over on the couch while his thoughts went on a little spiral, and then Jason reached for the back of his shirt, and bam.

The lights drop, the music starts, the speed slows down, and Tim can see every ripple in the muscles of Jason’s forearm, every inch of skin revealing as he lifts the shirt, every angle of the dips in his spine, every scar, every scab, every damn freckle — for god’s sake, he can even see about a half an inch of elastic above the top of his pants. 

It’s red. 

Of course it’s red. 

Tim takes a deep breath, trying to disguise it by shifting closer to Jason, who’s sitting with his back to Tim, his arms threaded through the shirt in his lap. 

He can do this. He can do this. 

It’s just a massage. 

“Come on, Timbo. Let’s see what those scrawny fingers got.” 

Tim lets out an exasperated scoff, and Jason’s shoulders shake two or three times as he chuckles. 

He considers digging an elbow into Jason’s spine, just to be an asshole, but he has a better plan. 

He’s going to wow him. It’s going to be the best damn massage in his life. 

Scrawny fingers, Tim grumbles in his head as he places his hand down on Jason’s left shoulder. 

Immediately, Jason flinches and lets out a noise of surprise, and Tim flinches back because he’s surprised.

Great start.

“Jesus fuck, your fingers are like ice!” 

“Sorry, sorry,” Tim mutters, even though he isn’t, not really. Still, he rubs his hands together quickly, just a few times to get some of the cold out of them. 

He puts his hands back on Jason’s shoulders, and Jason stiffens, but he doesn’t flinch away this time. 

Okay. Good. 

Tim starts applying pressure, rubbing up and down the muscles, and after a few moments, it’s easier to shift into a more clinical headspace, even with the warmth of his skin seeping through Tim’s fingers. 

“Where is it bothering you?” he asks. 

“Oh, uh. By my spine. And…” Jason pauses for a moment while Tim’s palm digs into the meat of his shoulder, and when he resumes speaking, his voice is a little higher. “…my neck.” 

Tim nods, letting his palm dig in again. He wishes he had lotion or something. Jason’s skin drags against his every time he moves his hand, and it’s uncomfortable. Also, Jason’s skin is warm, flushing pink under the area he’s been rubbing, and… a little bit up his neck, too actually. The tips of his ears are pink, Tim realizes as he works his way up to the crook of Jason’s neck. 

He digs his thumb into the muscle right by the top of Jason’s shoulder, and he’s just starting to lose himself in it when he hears a breathy noise, almost like… 

No. No, Tim’s making shit up. Jason did not audibly moan. Tim is putting things where he wants them to be, because that’s what he wants.

On the next roll of his palm, Jason says, “Ngh, Christ, Tim.”

With Tim’s hand frozen on his shoulder, he can feel the way Jason tenses, has a front row seat to the burst of color across his neck.

Thank god they’re in Jason’s apartment. In Jason’s living room. With Jason’s cameras recording. He doesn’t have to memorize the way that sounded coming out of Jason’s mouth.

No, he can go hack into his files and save it as a clip and then back it up on three separate servers, and then also a hard drive, and maybe also on a USB in a lockbox buried in the woods somewhere, because he doesn’t think he can live another moment of his life without having access to the way his name sounded coming out of Jason’s mouth. 

“Sorry,” Jason mutters, and he sounds… meek? It’s weird, but Tim doesn’t think he’s ever heard Jason sound shy. 

“No worries,” Tim says, feeling like he’s regained some ground. 

“You can… make noise,” Tim adds. 

Immediately, he feels like he’s lost that ground. 

Jason clears his throat a little. “No, it’s — it’s fine, I’m good. You can, uh. Keep going.” 

A grin tugs across his mouth as he resumes his massage, listening to the way Jason’s breathing is getting heavier. 

“I thought my fingers were scrawny?”

#batwrites #batsasks #☁️ eidoloony #jaytim #jaytim fic #writing snippet

[10-pints]

Chapters: 1/2 Fandom: Call of Duty (Video Games) Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: John "Soap" MacTavish/Simon "Ghost" Riley Characters: John "Soap" MacTavish, Simon "Ghost" Riley Additional Tags: Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Simon "Ghost" Riley is Bad At Feelings, Emetophobia Summary:

Suck the rot right out of my bloodstream Oh, dilute me, gentle angel Water down what I called being grateful

——

He can almost hear Ghost’s heavy heartbeat, undoubtedly pounding in its cage beneath many layers of bone, flesh, and cloth.

“Where’d you go, love?” Soap asks a set of eyes that don’t seem to be focusing on anything in the room, searching for something not there.

#soapghost #soap mctavish #simon ghost riley #mw2 #cod #batwrites

[ursie]

Like that "people who disagree with me dni" banner. tt's Twitter in a nutshell. (Personally I've been pushing for more batwriters to do things with Dick's mental health. NOT TOM KING!)

LET ME AND MY BANNER LIVE 😭

#you’re right but should you say it? no #asks #anon

[batwritings]

Pretty sure I found the old list for boundaries, and accidentally also found an old masterlist (just so you are aware)

https://www.tumblr.com/batwritings/649519466587242496/heyo-do-you-mind-posting-what-you-arearent

Slay, serve, survive,

🍁

That'd be the one! I can most definitely put that back up (and I'll update it as well. There's a few things I'm a little more comfortable writing nowadays than I used to be).

Thanks friend! I'll be real, I'm not sure why I took that down to begin with...hm....

#bat squeaks #anon response #🍁anon

[muffinmonstah-art]

I think because nobody really makes any ship content for Jason and Barbara and it is extremely rare to see art for them, especially right now where everything is Dick and Barbara. So it’s nice to see that there is still a community out there or people who still like Jason and Barbara as a pairing. I absolute adore your JayBabs art! It’s so beautiful!

It's cute that my JayBabs art has been feeding my ask box a lot lately. I've produced a lot of fanart for niche ships over the years and I've never brought this type of attention to myself. By what you're saying the JayBabs tag has been very deprived of content. That's kinda sad. But it's not a big deal in my eyes. You'd be surprised by the fact that the majority of people engaging on the Batfam fandom online probably don't even know this ship exists and have no previous judgement towards it.

Sometimes you just need the one fanart that gets viral for the ship to gain a few new entusiastic shippers :)

The DickBabs ship is just Batwriter agenda, crafted with the purpose to keep Dick isolated from having any relevant bond outside the Batman property. And it's so fucking plastic and poorly writen that constantly gets in the way of everything even inside the Batman related stories. I'm starving for Jason & Dick content first and foremost, and I can't stand this shit getting in the way of every single Batfam dynamic involving Dick. Seriously, where are my Jason&Dick centered stories? I want Nightwing&Batman stories too without any nasty ships stealing valious pages from the story that could be used to explore other more relevant things. Do I also have to mention how annoying it is that Dick cannot count on his friends anymore because now his only bestie is the woke bitch?

The idea of me shipping this kind of editorial plastic craft that stank of "Batwriter agenda" since day 1, instead of a blank page full of potential for writers like JayBabs is laughable honestly.

Even worse it becomes when you add the fact that my most hated fictional trope of all times: the "childhood soulmates" one was injected to this turd back then, when the characters' ages were retconed to add their off-panel "history together" bullshit.

I have a problem with this trope. I have a big personal problem with any fictional ship that follows this shitty trope. This bland idealized fantasy that consists in two characters that meet each other as kids, and they become the first crush for each other, and become best friends and later on they start to date and they make love and they grow up together and stay together for the rest of their lives blablablah does not vibe at all with me. The reason? I LIVED IT IN REAL LIFE. The love of my life is the first man I've dated and the only romantic experience I had. It's been many many years since we started dating.

I get why normies instantly become attached and idealize this kind of relationships in fiction. Because in real life this is not the norm. The probabilites of someone having their first crush on their soulmate at a young age are what… 0.00001%? I've met many many people in my life, so did my boyfriend (and he knows thrice people than me), and even for the Catholic standards from my country, the number of people we've met that had a story similar to ours is NONE. It's no wonder really why so many writers write this ships so badly, and why the audiences of those stories cannot identify how awful those ships are. It's a fantasy scenario.

But I lived it, and I hate 99% of ships that fall into this trope because I consider they do a terrible job at depicting a reality that has been my normal day by day basis for the last 13 years. DickBabs is the worst of them all but in my eyes is just another example of why this shitty trope shoud burn in flames and never be used again, unless your typical writer actually tries to sit down for a minute and think about how humans behave and how human relationships work. You don't need to experience what you write in first hand to depict it well, you just need to be intelligent about it, do some proper research.

One day I'll write my own story featuring the childhood soulmates theme. It's going to be heavily based on my personal experience and it's going to bitchslap every stupid writer who ever wrote this trope as a bland boring idealized fantasy. It'll be the deconstruction of the childhood soulmates trope. I'll get to be the Latin American female version of Alan Moore!!!!1111oneone

But either way, I think it'd be nice if we stop mentioning DickBabs while talking about JayBabs. That ship is not a ship that has earned the status of relationship by the sweat and effort of countless writers that tried to make it work over the years like say, Clark and Louis. No. It's a Batwriter agenda shit. A retcon. The fact that it gets constantly shoved down our throats lately doesn't add any depth to that. It just makes it more forced and annoying. It really does not deserve the mention, unless it is to use it as a punching bag lmao.

Let's focus instead on why JayBabs has potential to be a great ship if it ever gets explored on the main continuity.

#asks #anti dickbabs #jaybabs

[danny-chase]

I mean, I don't hate Tim. I think he's good to balance the qi; everyone else among the bats has this depressing backstory, but Tim, while he is ultimately orphaned by a yandere trying to get back together with her ex-husband, is really kinda normal? But modern batwriters don't get that that's what works for him. (And also Bette Kane.)

i think modern batwriters have lost site of what made most the characters interesting. like imo it hits the girls the hardest, you can literally describe each of the batgirls in their book with one word

i think dc writers kinda shot themselves in the foot when they killed off jack drake, because part of the point of tim's struggle with being in the batfamily was balancing his personal life and keeping secrets from his dad - and like i'm not saying characters shouldn't change, but it would have been much more idk interesting if they'd gone to a period where his dad learned he was robin and had time to accept that before they killed him off? like i really don't get the point of jack getting killed off, other than to make tim sad and edgy, to which i say *gestures to every other bat character around at that point* and like i get it was the trend at the time, but it just gets boring when they do it with so many characters. idk just thought it would have been more interesting if we saw jack adapt to the fact that tim was robin, and that they had more time to work things out, and talk about all the lying, like they spent all this time building up how bad tim felt about lying to his dad, and put all that effort into having tim maintain a secret identity, and then jack finding out had 0 consequences other than tim being not robin for 3 issues, because then both jack and steph died, like. way to work up to such an anticlimactic moment 😭

#happy #edgy #girlboss #you already know who's who #asks #anon #momo don't look #i have no idea who you're referring to as a yandere #i think tim works best when he has other people to bounce off of and balance tbh #like the more interesting parts of his solos i thought were his relationships with others #but also infuriating cuz he could be a bit of an ass at times #but like understandable cuz he's just every white guy i ever met at my high school

[disniq]

Depends on how you read Jason. He was also an overachiever. A lot of it is different writers over the years. (And of course his background pre-Crisis was just Dick 2.0.) For a long time, batwriters did not want him to be a victim of anything, since "inadequate" Jason was the narrative rather than "monster" Bruce which Starlin was going for. What's interesting here is Jason already being homicidal. Before his resurrection, Jason killing was similar to Dick killing.

Hi anon, I'm sorry but I have no idea what this is in relation to?

#asked and answered #or not as the case may be