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cero-sleep · 7 months
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Okay guys! Invites for DCAH2023 the Halloween event will open tomorrow 23/sep/2023 at about 7PM CST and willl remain open until 100 ppl have entered!
Please only enter if you can make a new piece of art or writing specifically for the event!
Hope to see y'all there! ^^
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CLICK HEAR TO HAVE SOME FUN!
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STOP ITTTTT SO FUCKING CUTE!!!!
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bestosunglass · 7 days
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Hello! I love your work so much especially how you do your animatics and animations! I have a couple of art related questions if that’s alright but no pressure at all I understand!
I’ve been wanting to get into more digital art/animation but I was wondering what program do you use and what canvas size do you rec for uploading to TikTok and other social media? I’m using procreate but just wondering! (Your work looks so crispy and clean and I struggle with quality drop at times 🫡) do you use a custom brush for your linework or the default brushes in your program? Also what do you use to edit for videos? Do you adjust the image to fit when making a video or do you use a canvas size that will work with TikToks? Lastly what program do you use to animate?
I’m sorry this is pretty long but thank you so much for reading I appreciate your time and patience!
Also your ATHF designs are so effen amazing I just started watching the show because of you!! Sending good vibes! ♡ ♡ ♡
Ok these questions I have received quite often and I will be genuinely honest, I don't know how to answer them KkkkKkKkK
I don't consider myself nor am I a professional artist, this is mostly a hoobie that I enjoy very much and have been doing for long years so first of all it's all practice, practice and more practice. Everything is achieved with hard practice even though it sounds repetitive!
Regarding what programs and tools I use; IbisPaint and my trusty finger. I draw with my cell phone and I have always used Ibis because I think it is one of the most comfortable programs to make art, very easy to use and learn to master especially with the little instructions it gives you. My brushes are the default, crayon type brushes, only with some configurations. My canvas size is always 2550x2550 (the limit so it doesn't go slow, lol), I make all the drawings, move them to the same folder and then I move that folder to the center of the canvas so it looks like it does in my videos.
For animating, I'm just getting back into it since I haven't animated for many years but what I do is to take a reference video (in my athf video it was a jjk scene, now what I do is to record myself to have better and accurate references of what I want) and take a capture frame by frame, then I pass each of those frames to Ibis and draw over them! Regarding what app I use for editing, Capcut 乁⁠|⁠ ⁠・⁠ ⁠〰⁠ ⁠・⁠ ⁠|⁠ㄏ
Sorry if this isn't the detailed response u would have expected, but thank you sooo much for your message!!!!<3333
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nyttvera · 23 days
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dianagj-art · 1 year
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love it when a joke gets out of hand :)
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voidcatgalaxy · 9 months
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hi! if you were looking for a sign to give your characters a typing quirk, here it is!
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eldritch-spouse · 10 months
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Bestie pinnie!! I am so very tipsy, is there any chance you could do some hc's of the icons with a drunk/tipsy s/o? One that's affectionate and shit?
Hope the dungeon is going well!!
[This was a while ago, hope you're okay lmao. The dungeon is alive and full.]
TW: Dubious consent.
Vesper finds this so cute. Oh, you're so adorable. A couple drinks and you want to climb him like a tree, you're just the cutest. Vesper meets your affection twofold, cooing and goading you into waxing poetic about how you feel regarding him. He's also definitely taking this as an invitation to find out what type of drunk you are doing sex. Do you get sloppy and lazy or are you the type that comes alight with passion? The giggly ones are always fun.
Zizz also thinks fondly of these moments. He's one of the icons that drinks the least, so you can get pretty drunk around him, Zizz will be there to protect you (though never from himself). He welcomes your affection, enjoying petting you while you ramble half-coherently and love on him. He's the type to lay there with a wagging tail and point to several parts of himself, asking you to kiss them if you really love him. Eventually, he'll recommend you sleep it off on him, what he does to you while you're in a drunken slumber stays forever a mystery...
Kalymir finds this so fucking funny. Look at you, you little bumbling fool! What a lightweight! He's on his tenth bottle, you're such a pussy (you are worryingly drunk, that was not a drink for humans). He definitely makes fun of you, leaning out of your reach when you try to kiss him and goading you into getting irritated enough to drunkenly snap at him. If you're half-crazy enough to bite him out of frustration, that's what he wants. For every smooch and coo you land on Kalymir, he slaps your ass and pokes around at you, but your pathetic state is getting to him. Wanna sweat that alcohol off, runt? Start running, he'll give you a head start since you're already giggling about it. He's laughing too.
Vorticia drinks plenty. There's nothing like a fine wine, even if she also indulges in harder stuff often enough. Point is, you're not drinking alone with her more often than not. By the time you're tipsy, she's hammered. And you'll note the way her serpent tongue gets the best of her because she starts slurring those "s"s pretty heavily. It's actually very easy to fluster the Queen in this state, so you'll get her to blush and laugh loudly, laying down somewhere just to enjoy some pleasant moments with her charming Queenie. She's definitely going to try to at least finger you a little, joking around when you react in shock, as if she's not really doing anything weird. You're likely to get very sloppy, drooling oral. She'll empty a bottle on you and go to town.
Cero is chastising you for having absolutely no self-control, even if there's a drunken tint to his cheeks as well. You're a complete mess, this is shameful, get a hold of yourself- Why yes, he is handsome. He's very kind to you, that is also true. My my, you're being very honest today, aren't you? What started as chiding and bitching very quickly turns into a reluctant tolerance, and then very eager conversation- As Cero blushes heavily and his usually frowning visage melts into a genuinely soft look full of adoration for you. He'll let you cling to him, kiss around and even stain his outfit, if only just to hear you say you love him more than anything, that you think he's so hoootttt and prettyyy and smart and wowwww. You should get drunk more often, he concludes.
Rinx has such an endless selection of liquor, it's a small miracle you're only tipsy and not blacked out on the floor. He's very talkative when he drinks, so your affectionate quips are returned with his own affectionate thoughts for you and invitations to try different brands- This one's so old, it might kill you, better not. He can't help picking you up and walking around with you under his armpit like a purse dog as he rambles on and on and flusters while you kiss at him drunkenly. There's definitely going to be some very messy humping at one point, he has yet to shut the fuck up, even when you kiss him.
Livius gets as drunk as you do, which takes more drinks than it does for you. Since he mirrors a lot of your mannerisms in all sorts of situations, he's also going to mimic your drunken stupor, to the best of his abilities. "I loves you"s are met with "I love you more"s and it escalates into stupid, cheesy comparisons. His voice gets high and whiny and Livius needs to have his arms coiled around you, he might even be more affectionate than you. He's very prone to tickling you a lot in this state, just to hear you laugh and try to torture him back. It's adorable and painfully lovey-dovey from start to finish.
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0-g-i · 1 year
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Okay, Sun and Moon are werewolves, Eclipse is just a big cryptic in the woods.  
Also big thanks to @h0pef1lled​ @chaireem​ and @cero-sleep​ for helping out with ideas, and rambling. And also, others for the input and drawing the boys! 
The plot was fluff but got two different version of it instead.
Overall, the AU is platonic. 
The boys have three forms. (Except full wolf form is not shown and may only happen in one version of the AU)  
Full wolf form:
Both Sun and Moon only have this form at night.
Looks like an actual wolf but have odd features which represent what they are based off. Like Sun has yellow to orange, brown colors while Moon is dark blues and whites. Sun has fluff around his head. Moon doesn't have nightcap, just fluffy main. Red of their ribbons still remain normal like ribbon. (w.i.p )  Only can walk on all fours, and have full body covered in fur. 
Half/werewolf form:
During the day. They look more like the animatronics from the game but wolfified. Moon does have a long nightcap.
Moon has black eyes with white iris. 
Sun has white eyes (but also can have black. w.i.p) 
Sun has his sun rays but two are folded like puppy ears. They both have pants. No shoes. Bean pads on hands and feet.
Full Moon werewolf form:
Seems to happen every full moon.
Both are Taller
Lanky but also buffer
Big hands
Pants look torn or tattered.
Ribbons maybe a little tattered looking.
Sun's rays are more fur like.
Wide eyes
Moon's nightcap is longer.
 Moon’s one eye is white and the other is black with red iris. 
Sliver effects them severely in this form. Burns/stings them. Takes longer recovery. 
For all three forms: In all forms they can eat and drink (because they are living robotic cryptic creatures), and they have blue blood. 
Also, lowkey liking the idea of that one post about military robots that can eat organisms for fuel, thus making Sun and Moon kind of like those energetically autonomous tactical robot (E.A.T.R) (in w.i.p)
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(Newer drawing down below) 
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Then there’s Eclipse. 
(He’s the one in the trees)
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Can shapeshift.
 Doesn't change into human form.
 May be only able change into small to tall forms only. 
Main colors are black and white, then colors fade into greys.
 Many spikes around his head, same are soft and wispy like mist and (light). 
(He is a cryptic) 
The shoulders are layer like bug wings and kind of like the flower praying mantis. 
He is shadowy. 
(There was an idea of him being able to change from dark colors to red colors)
He turns red when angry.
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Yes, he's having a tea party with a little girl that got lost in the woods. I'm sure the family will find her in the back yard around midnight, all happy and covered in mud and talking about her friend she met in the woods by the swamp.
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First drawings of Sun and Moon below- 
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cero-sleep · 7 months
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Okay so a lot of ppl were interested in the DCA Halloween event this year so!!!!!!! We are hosting it!!!!!!
Letting y'all know so y'all can keep an eye out for when we post the invite to the server soon!!!!
It'll be the same as the Secret Santa event (DCASS) but a separate thing from it! So everyone will have the same chance to join!
Lmk if y'all have any questions! ^^
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mossyflowers · 4 months
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Tossing this art here so I can ramble abt my Cipher, thoughts below the cut because i've come up with a lot of stuff for him :]
Early life-
His real name is Ciro Palomo, which mean lord and pigeon respectively. However, the name Ciro also sounds a lot like cero, which is the Spanish word for zero
He was born around that gulf area in Sapin that bordered both Osea and Belka before the borders were moved
His parents were allegedly perfectly happy, well off, and could have taken care of him, but decided to leave him at a small orphanage instead. Essentially leaving him with nothing, including no memories of them.
Due to a wide variety of reasons, he didn't learn to speak until he was five, and didn't bother speaking much after that anyways due to no one wanting to listen
A lot of his time was spent wandering OUTSIDE of the orphanage, since he couldn't stand being stuck inside with all the other kids. He'd spend most of it staring at where the ocean met the sky and trying to imagine himself somewhere inbetween it
He also spent a lot of time interacting with some of the adults in his town, with some older women who'd moved to the town to escape the recession in Belka especially taking a liking to him. Telling him a lot of superstitions and other little things from their home, including a few myths about fairies
There was a baker who'd sneak him food that was taken off the shelves and a few days away from going bad, just so he could have some treats every now and then
When he was 17, a group of mercenaries came to town that he ran into while he was out. Eventually convincing them to take him with them before they left town. This was also the group that taught him how to fly.
The squad was called Extraño, which (I hope) translates to Stranger in Spanish
His first and original callsign was zero, as the group preferred to use numbers and he was essentially their first member with "zero" experience.
Cipher did not know how to read until one of his wingmen eventually taught him how to once they realized this.
It was his flight lead who drilled it into his skull to not shoot down neutral targets, insisting on pride above their paychecks.
They flew together for five years, before they took a contract with Ustio some time in September by the name of Operation Thresh. Where they were sent into the Round Table and attacked unexpectedly by another squad.
All of them died except for Cipher, who managed to survive shooting down seven enemy pilots alone, as well as a crash due to a sudden engine failure from sustained damage.
He managed to walk away with only a few severe burns and some damage to his nose. He wasn't happy about the fact he got to walk away.
The Belkan War-
After Extraño squad's deaths, Cipher became increasingly detached and began taking more dangerous missions while taking more risks in the air due to a mix of resentment and survivor's guilt
Cipher also kept a guitar from One, a pocket knife from Two, a rubik's cube from Three, and a notebook full of sketches from Four.
He originally signed on to work with Ustio under the impression he would NOT last long during the war.
Was both very hesitant about Pixy and confused by his behavior. He was pretty confident that Pixy would live longer than him, but still didn't want to get too close in case anything did happen.
The first mission at the Round Table and Pixy saying they'd survive was essentially a massive slap to the face that resulted in Cipher starting to open up to others again.
Alcohol was originally seen as a necessary evil to him for getting new contracts at dingy bars. He started enjoying it after Pixy kept dragging him to the bar on base, though.
He and Pixy would usually end up cuddling in the same bed if one of them got drunk enough, starting after the liberation of Directus.
Liberating Directus also got him to cry a little in his jet, and was one of the proudest and best moments of his life.
During practice and drills, he would purposefully try the craziest maneuvers he could just to see if Pixy could keep up.
Pixy also got him to start reading more.
Being called a demon was something he actually took pride in, until Hoffnung.
After Hoffnung, he stopped taking pride in a lot of things.
Pixy's betrayal hurt him a lot more than he let on, and he spent a lot of time wondering if there was anything he could have done differently before it happened.
PJ was like a little brother to him <:)
Despite everything, he thought the duel over Avalon dam was extremely romantic and attractive
Cipher also decided to disappear on the same night/morning after all the stuff with AWWNB and V2 happened for a lot of reasons. Mainly not wanting to be seen as a hero or remembered for what he did, though, there was also a lot of guilt over what happened to both PJ AND Pixy
Post war-
As soon as he could, he moved to what was left of Belka and into the city closest to Avalon Dam
Working with different groups of volunteer and rebuilding efforts helped him get into construction.
He still does contract work, but instead of being a mercenary pilot, it's mostly either construction or music performances.
Cipher also does a lot of street performances with his guitar, with him having a specific spot in the park near Avalon that he goes to perform at fairly often.
At some point, he gets a degree in music theory from a local college.
He ends up performing the music for his own documentary ten years later, too.
After the documentary, he tracks down Pixy again. The two of them work out most of their stuff eventually and end up getting together because they deserve it I think <:)
Misc stuff-
Cipher doesn't know when he was born, but I like to think it was 6/6 just so it'd be an extra punch to the gut.
He's Sapinish and was born and raised there, but doesn't have a very strong accent.
Has a chronic case of resting bitch face, unsurprisingly.
He also struggles a lot with emotions, specifically internalizing them after he realized getting mad at people who killed people you cared about and then killing them doesn't actually fix the fact the people you cared about are dead. It's easier to make him happy than it is to get him mad.
Thinks a little too much and tried to use flying as a way to cope since it cleared his head a lot
After his squad died, he also became physically incapable of speaking while flying as a trauma response. This also applies any time he's in the air, or somewhere that reminds him too much of flying or the sky.
He knows how to swim and is actually very good at it
Ended up learning how to walk silently as a kid to sneak out and never unlearned it
Somehow managed to completely train out his fear of heights and falling as a child on accident.
His first flight lead was the one who taught him how to play the guitar
Cipher was also a bit of a cunt before he went through his whole character arc during the war. He'd purposefully try to end missions as soon as possible and screw over other mercenaries he was flying with if he thought they'd try and shoot something they shouldn't
He's got a huge soft spot for kids and is actually surprisingly good with them
Also has a soft spot for pigeons, even if he's not great when it comes to getting them to not immediately fly away from him
Very sentimental, he collects things that other people give him and goes out of his way to take care of mementos from all of his dead wingmen.
Refused to die unless something killed him (nothing did, so he just left in the end)
He feels really bad about what happened to Belka after everything
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nonbinarylocalcryptid · 3 months
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Having a different brain is kinda funny
READ AT YOUR OWN RISK
I have no accent, zero, nul, xoom, eber, kore, zewo, cero, nada de nada
I don't have an accent by default, not in English as you know me, not in my native Spanish and definitely not in French. Given the case you talk to me, you won't be able to pinpoint my procedence in a map.
Yet, there's this funny little thing my autistic brain likes to do: mimic accents.
Let me explain. My brain, for some reason, has come up with the next strategy: in order to blend in, it assimilates whatever accent the people around me have. Still not getting it? Don't worry, I have an example. Let's say I'm into Supernatural for two weeks and I rewatch half of the show, I shit you not, the nest Tuesday I'm gonna show up to my English class talking with the same accent as Dean fucking Winchester.
The month I was talking like the Tenth Doctor was a funny one.
Even now! I can recognize in my way of writing in English some grammatic structures and vocabulary derivated from Jon Sims' way of speaking! BUT, it has a great disadvantage, people think I'm mocking them when I "adopt" their accent, soooooo haha, nice work, brain but it kinda sucks
I mean, some people don't really care, others don't notice as I sometimes pass as a native from wherever we are, but there are times when it's too noticeable to my own liking.
Anyway, that's enough rambling for today, have a nice day!
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xjulixred45x · 5 months
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Las pociones de amor siempre me han dado asco, así que agradezco que Asmodeus se niegue a hacerlas. Y sé que el próximo episodio va a ser una patada emocional en las pelotas.
¡¿Es Verdad no!? Digo, todos crecimos con caricaturas con ALMENOS un capítulo de Pociones de Amor con un aspecto """""cOmIcO"""" pero lo REALMENTE jodido no es solo el hecho de que lo ven como algo gracioso (el OBLIGAR a alguien a quererte) sino que solo ven ALGO MALO cuando la persona afectada se obsesiona con el protagonista☠️(y no porque literal le quitaron el libre albedrío a alguien).
Que Asmodeus no le gusten y hasta se niegue a usarlas se ve muy en personaje, después de todo, el pecado de la Lujuria se define como el deseo excesivo, si, pero es siempre MUTUO, un deseo ardiente y tan pasional que es visto como un pecado. Por lo que para Ozzie debe verse como una "trampa" el usar las posiciones de amor, porque al usarlas no buscas LUJURIA, buscas PROPIEDAD sobre la otra persona, saltando la parte de pasión y deseo MUTUOS . Algo más asociado al ORGULLO(por esto mismo creo que actos como la violación entran más en el Orgullo que en la Lujuria, porque aún si es algo con inclinación sexual, eso no es lo que se busca, lo que se busca es PODER sobre la otra persona, pero bueno ya me estoy llendo por las ramas).
Si la Lujuria no es concentida no es Lujuria, solo es posesividad. Ese es el punto.
Y en cuanto a lo del siguiente capítulo, no lo se sinceramente, pero espero que Stolas reconozca su error, sus actitudes tóxicas del pasado y sobretodo SE DISCULPE por haber ignorado los claros signos de disconformidad que tenía Blitzø con el arreglo y que se Gaslighteo para creer que era algo "mutuo".
Ojalá Stolas le de a Blitzø el Cristal Asmodeo y así puedan empezar de cero, obvio, personalmente no le gusta la idea de que sigan como pareja, pero creo que aún si siguen con la perspectiva del romance, al menos ahora pueda hacerse bajo una base que no sea DUB-CON.
Sino, sinceramente estaré sumamente decepcionada. Pero tengo fe en que AL MENOS tendremos algo de crecimiento de personajes.
Espero....
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TRUE RIGHT!? I mean, we all grew up with cartoons with AT LEAST one Love Potions episode looking """""cOmIc"""" but what's REALLY fucked up isn't just the fact that they see it as funny (FORCING someone to love you ) but they only see SOMETHING BAD when the affected person becomes obsessed with the protagonist☠️ (and not because they literally took away someone's free will).
That Asmodeus does not like them and even refuses to use them seems very in character, after all, the sin of Lust is defined as excessive desire, yes, but it is always MUTUAL, a burning desire and so passionate that it is seen as a sin. So for Ozzie it should be seen as a "trap" to use love positions, because when using them you are not looking for LUST, you are looking for OWNERSHIP over the other person, skipping all the passion and MUTUAL desire, it seems Something more associated with PRIDE (for this reason I believe that acts like rape fall more into Pride than into Lust, because even if it is something with a sexual inclination, that is not what is sought, what is sought is POWER over the someone else, but hey, I'm already rambling).
If Lust is not conscious, it is not Lust, it is just possessiveness. That is the point.
And as for the next chapter, I honestly don't know, but I hope that Stolas recognizes his mistake, his toxic attitudes of the past and above all APOLOGIZES for having ignored the clear signs of disagreement that Blitzø had with the arrangement and that he Gaslighted to believe that it was something "mutual."
I hope Stolas gives Blitzø the Asmodeus Crystal and so they can start from scratch, obviously, personally don't like the idea of them continuing as a couple, but I think that even if they continue with the perspective of romance, at least now it can be done on a solid basis. other than DUB-CON.
Otherwise, honestly I will be extremely disappointed. But I have faith that AT LEAST we'll get some character growth.
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cerosin-bis · 4 months
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does our irredeemable bastards been a good boy this Christmas? hmmm
maybe a bit early but, man.. a year goes by so fast hope you have a rememberable year and a good new year
i have discovered you maybe in march or April (im not sure) but one thing that im sure of is, you certainly made my year better.🥰
keep up the good work cero. you are feeding us with yummy, delicious, feral contents. and i love that!
(I have tons of asks to answer before this, but for once given the time of the year I'll post this first) A year does go by fast. When I made my art vs artist on twitter recently I couldn't believe just how much I drew in just 2023?!
Getting so many incredibly sweet and encouraging messages and comments on my fics and art played a part in that. Although I had been doing krueger/nikto mostly just for myself from 2020 to 2021 and a few friends starting from 2022, getting to share this (technically very niche) ship art with a bunch of people unexplainably and suddenly interested in it, let alone my specific take on it, genuinely feels like a privilege.
So yeah. Rambles aside, I'm glad if I could help make your year better. It's an honour to know this! Thank you so much for your message. Have a wonderful end of the year! You and everyone else! ♥
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autistic-lan-xichen · 7 months
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Hi!!! I am here with the promised etymology fact! I have a few smaller tidbit ones soo yeah
Helicopter! Most people think it divides into heli+copter (think heli-pad) but actually it's helico+pter!
Helico meaning spiral (as in helix) and pter meaning fly/flight! The same as in pterodactyl which, btw, is ptero+dactyl
Dactyl means fingers so pterodactyl litrly means flying fingers or finger flier! It's also the same dactyl that appears in polydactyly which is poly (many) plus dactyl!
Another one i really like is the difference bw and Elegy and a Eulogy! They're both poem kinda things that you say when someone dies like in memory of them, but an Elegy is about mourning the one who died while a Eulogy is about celebrating and appreciating the life they lived, it has a more happy vibe! Which makes a lot of sense when you see that the prefix 'eu-' is usually used to denote happiness and good feelings. Think euphoria!
The seeming exception to that is euthanasia, but it ends up making sense when you see that euthanasia originally meant 'a good death' which is a nice way of thinking about it if you ask me!
Another cool one is how the Fruit that adam and eve ate in the Bible came to be an apple. In the Bible it's never actually mentioned the the fruit is an apple, we don't know what fruit it is! The thing is though, that in Latin, the word for general Fruits was also often used as the word for apple (malum), not only that, the Latin word for 'Bad' is written and pronounced in a very similar way, so the theory is that somehwere in all the translation, 'Bad Fruit' got condenswd down to just. Apple. Cuz it all sounded similar!
Speaking of Latin 'bad', the word is Malum (there are some accent marks but i forget them rn) which is where we get the suffix 'mal-' for bad things! Like maleficent, malnourished, malcontent.
Another kinda funny one is Rhinoceros! Rhino means Nose. Think rhinoplasty, rhinitis(inflammation in the nose), rhinovirus (the common cold).
Ceros comes froma root word that basically means like. Stone? Thorn? I am not 100% sure rn but something like that. So rhinoceros litrly just means Nose-Stone lmao
Soeaking of Ceros, it's also where we get the word Keratin! The stuff out hair and nails r made of. So that's cool
Last one, u know the words 'human' and 'man'?? U ever wonder why they don't have the same plural endings when they're so similar?? Well the thing is they sound very similar but they're actually from completely different roots! Like. Not even the same root language. Human comes from the latin 'humanus' which has prety much the same meaning.
But 'man' comes from Germanic roots! Think german and the slavic languages, which is a completely seperate language system with its own grammar rules to latin and the Romance languages (french italian spanish etc. Languages that descended from the language of Rome hence the name)
Which is why their modern day remnants human and man also follow different grammar rules, the rules of their root languages!
Anyway i hope me rambling on was not boring i personally find this so cool one time i sent my friend a good half hour long ramble about this. Thank you for asking!!!
this were really interesting i know almost nothing about this besides the bad one(learned about it in spanish class) so it was fun to learn about it
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OMG you are right. But it only makes it worse because I just saw this morning on twt someone saying the visenya thing and now you factually end the other reason. They have cero evidence and.is still preaches like the bible HOLY FU
This is just only one of the many nonsensical takes/fanons/theories that are passed around as canon in this fandom.
Some other ones being, Dany burning Kings Landing, Political genius Sansa, Indian Martells, Executioner Arya, Jon being Ned 2.0 (this one is such an insult to Jon.).
...and Jon is the somehow chained to the North, Wall and Winterfell. His story begins and ends there.
Look, if people wanna go off and believe that Jon is the Starkiest Stark to ever Stark, they can. I dare say that it would be interesting if (because we don't know what GRRM intends to do with Jon's Targ heritage/Aurane and FAegon are feasible candidates for dragons riding) he was somehow the son of Brandon and Ashara but things happened so Ned claimed Jon for a bastard and then sent him to the Watch.
Someone would still know the truth about Brandon and Ashara and we can still have a conflicted Jon and a good Stark Succession Crisis...and yes, Jon can also fall in love with his supposed sister (whichever one you ship him with) because it would still be cousin incest.
As for Dany and Jon, it can still happen. Jon and Dany falling in love with each other with all the complications of what their respective fathers did and the complicated family history.
The whole thing also works because it makes Jon, a candidate for Dawn, a blade more potent than Valyrian Steel against the Others.
I am sorry I am rambling. BUT WHAT DOES THAT MAN WANT TO DO WITH R+L=J PLAGUES MY WAKING HOURS!
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