Loghain: "So you didn't rush to your king's rescue? I see. Then both of us left the boy to die"
Wynne: "I was no general at the head of an army! I could never have reached him!"
Loghain: "And I had no magic that could break those darkspawn ranks. But perhaps you think I ought to have tried, regardless. No doubt, the lives of mere soldiers are cheap in the eyes of the Circle"
Wynne: "And what of all the soldiers who died with their king? Their lives were worth nothing to you"
Loghain: "You think so, do you? I knew their names, mage, and where they came from. I knew their families. I do not know how you mages determine the value of things, but they were my men. I know exactly how much I lost that day"
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second warden Loghain, I made this drawing lazy so it's not one of the best
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I just finished The Stolen Throne and I’m a mess
Loghain is such a great character and Rowan deserves better, Maric deserves slap. I wan’t them to be happy but also knew what’s coming from the game. So many emotions... considering replaying Origins with different choices, help
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Alistair holds the Grey Wardens on a pedestal, this much is clear. He sees them as this good and heroic guild of warriors and mages who are willing to sacrifice themselves to save Thedas. but that's not entirely the case,
To Alistair, the guild is far too righteous to accept Loghain into their ranks, but Loghain is more than experienced and even...better to become a Warden.
Depending on your origin in the first game, you're a criminal brought to the grey wardens because of a chance arrangement with Duncan or because you're already infected by the Blight, which in that case you have no other choice but to join the wardens and abandon your previous life.
The Grey Wardens are a faction filled with criminals in all degrees who abandoned their lives to die for a better cause and surely Alistair must know this, surely he's met Wardens who were murders, thieves, bandits, and other lowlifes before they died at Ostagar. so why does he hold them on such a high pedestal as this beacon of good?
because they're the closest thing Alistair has to a family unit.
Alistair grew up thinking his mother was just some servant woman who got pregnant by the King and neither parent wanted him, so they sent him away to live with Arl Eamon, who then sent him away to the Chantry to be trained as a Templar. Alistair has never had a stable parental or familial figure in his life he can look up to, so when Duncan recruits him into the Wardens he finally has that. he has a mentor and father figure in Duncan and he flat-out sees the Wardens as his brothers and sisters. while that term may just be used in a "brothers in arms" type of way, I personally don't think it is, When the Hero of Ferelden is brought to Ostagar, Alistair immediately has a connection with you and by that point, you're not even an official warden yet, and if you're not romancing him, Alistair is protective over you as a big brother would be, interrogating Zevran about his intentions with you.
Alistair looks at the Wardens with rose-tinted glasses, this entire order is his life. his friends, everything Alistair is, he can attribute to the Wardens. even his real birth mother was a Warden. so much of Alistair's identity is that of the Grey Wardens and the very idea of Loghain becoming a warden taints that vision Alistair has created for himself
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