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juliakeyoto · 2 days
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Mfw the church unironically bans the printing press, medical advances, telescopes, and oil to keep it’s power. Of course, in it lists reasons why it could be dangerous for humans, but the church is still canonically oppressing human advancement in the way that the Catholic Church did irl. And people ask why Edelgard has supporters
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bowbowis · 5 months
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The Face of... Pure Evil?
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raxistaicho · 10 months
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Mercy, mercy me!
Edelgard to beaten enemies:
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Edelgard’s opponents to beaten enemies:
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Edelgard to other students she doesn’t know personally:
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Edelgard’s opponents to other students they don’t know personally:
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Edelgard to defeated enemy leaders:
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Edelgard’s opponents to defeated enemy leaders:
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More of Edelgard to defeated enemy leaders:
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More of Edelgard’s opponents to defeated enemy leaders: 
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Edelgard when she has her enemies cornered:
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Edelgards opponents when they have their enemies cornered:
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Mercy as much as possible is a repeating theme of her interactions. Edelgard might have started the war, but every indication is that she’s limiting the bloodshed as much as possible. This is not reciprocated by her opponents.
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balanceoflightanddark · 5 months
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As requested by @cobra-diamond. I hope this makes you happy.
If you know me, then you probably know that I have a habit of talking about problematic characters like Azula. You know, the ones who have to have an inordinate amount of hatred attached to them that boggles the mind. It's just Azula is one of the most notorious of this...I guess you can say club.
The thing is...she's not the only one out there.
Spoilers for Fire Emblem: Three Houses below.
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This is Edelgard von Hresvelg. Crown Princess to the Adrestrian Empire. Leader of the Black Eagles House in Garreg Mach. And quite possibly the most controversial character in the entire Fire Emblem franchise. She's been called a lot of things over the years. A fascist. A tyrant. The old "worse than Hitler" comparison. Needless to say, she's had it rough.
And to be fair, there is a reason for that. Traditionally, she's the "villain" of the story. She's the face of the enemy faction, the one you encounter the most if you don't side with her, and she ends up the final boss on the most traditional of the Fire Emblem routes. Her design is crimson red with devil horns, and she turns into a literal monster at the end of one of her routes. So by all accounts, she's the bad guy.
Except...she isn't. Not really. Let's back up a bit.
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Three Houses takes place on the continent of Fodlan, which is broken up into three distinctive factions. We have the Adrestrian Empire that Edelgard is from who used to rule all of Fodlan. We have the Leicester Alliance which is ruled by a class of nobles who are only loosely united. And then we have Faerghus, a proud people with armies of knights and ruled by a king. Above them all are the Knights of Seiros who basically run things in Fodlan, keeping stability and maintaining the balance of power between all three factions from their monastery of Garreg Mach. Here, noble children from all across the continent are enrolled to learn combat and how to be a faithful servant of the Church and its Archbishop, Rhea.
Fodlan also has a strict caste system dictated by Crests. Think of them as bloodlines that grant users special abilities and the power to wield divine weapons. Those who inherit Crests are practically seen as chosen by the Goddess and enforce her will on the earth and are on top. Everyone else essentially gets trampled on, with families doing pretty underhanded things and constantly squabbling in order to make sure their family has Crests.
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Enter a mysterious faction lead by their enigmatic leader, the Flame Emperor. For most of the game's first half, they serve as the ultimate bad guy. They're the face of Those Who Slither In The Dark, (TWSITD), they're the ones who hired the mercenaries who attempted to kill the student heads at the beginning of the game, and their identity is one of the driving questions at the start.
Turns out...the Flame Emperor is actually Edelgard.
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Before now, Edelgard had been one of the class leaders and one of your students should you choose to teach the Black Eagles. She's...not exactly the most open person, but she's also dutiful and dedicated to succeeding her elderly father, the Emperor of Adrestria. So it comes off as a shock to many that she's revealed to effectively be the bad guy for the first half of the game. An indeed, there are people in-universe who genuinely want her head and blame her for absolutely everything that TWSITD pulled.
The thing is though...Edelgard's position within TWSITD is less of leadership and more of a weapon. You remember those Crests I mentioned earlier? Well it turns out, Edelgard actually possesses TWO which is unnatural in Fodlan. The reason for that is...well, it was the result of torturous experiments that left her in a disgusting prison and was forced to watch the rest of her siblings die. Leaving her the sole survivor. And going back to my Azula comparison, she too was conditioned to effectively serve TWSITD to bring down the Church and tear Fodlan apart.
AKA: she was set up in-universe to be the villain.
The thing is though at the end of the day...she ultimately isn't.
Her trauma isn't brushed away. It's treated with as much respect as it deserves. And she's not treated as some monster either since all of her traits established before the reveal are still present after the timeskip where the war starts if you decide to defend her from being executed by Archbishop Rhea. Mainly, she cares a lot about her allies and forces. Even giving them an out of what is certain to be a bloody path she embarks on.
And it IS a bloody path. Edelgard's ultimate goal is to dismantle the Church which seems villainous...until you realize that the Church was responsible for the oppressive Crest system that resulted in her experimentation and a ton of backstabbing and suffering in Fodlan. As bad as TWSITD are, they wouldn't have gotten as far if the Knights of Seiros practically didn't create every opportunity for them to cause chaos and destruction. She doesn't even like TWSITD too much, and only allies with them cause they're the lesser evil in the grand scheme of things, and she needs their support to stand a chance against the dominant Church. And she already HAS plans to bring them down the moment the war is over. That seen of her in the of the routes where she turns into a monster? That's her choosing to become a monster when her back is to the wall and her last ditch effort to secure a better future for Fodlan.
What's more, she actually shows more clemency and mercy to her enemies than her rivals. Imperial troops are said to be more accommodating to citizens and captured soldiers than Faerghus who have been known to torture their captives. Edelgard is willing to show mercy and is perfectly willing to let Rhea stand down, showing the same mercy that her enemies don't since Rhea was willing to execute heretics over their rebellious attitudes (practically justifying the war). And the less said about Dimitri, the King of Faerghus, the better...
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So while Edelgard is coded as a villain...she doesn't really act too villainous. She shows regret over her actions. She isn't as brutal as a lot of people make her out to be. Hell, her ending where she wins the war is arguably the best for Fodlan since the oppressive Crest system is dismantled with the only resistance coming from nobles who their claims to power are challenged. Not to mention she IS willing to let territories like Brigid peacefully secede and is going to step down from her position as Emperor once things are stabilized and she finds a successor.
Sadly like Azula, because she's seen as the villain in-universe a LOT of people think she's some power-hungry monster. Even when a closer examination of her actions and character show that it is NOT the case. Which...honestly makes her special to me and a lot of people. She's the kind of character who would be demonized elsewhere, but is given a chance to tell her side of the story and NOT be the monster everyone makes her out to be. And ultimately if you play your cards right, she does get that happy ending denied to so many characters like her.
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It makes it all the sweeter that after so many years of being conditioned to be the villain, presenting herself as the villain, Edelgard gets recognized as the hero and person she actually is.
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foreword: im a lesbian
a lot of the edeldiscourse is just misogyny. same w rhea. like. look at me fire emblem fandom. look at me in my lesbian eyes. why do you people not also hate dmitri for actively saying "yeah lets massacre people" multiple times but when edelgard teams up w people who abused her all her life and are infesting her only accessible seat of power to do somthing genuinely good its worse. hello. hello? all dmitri wants is to kill edelgard because hes a sister in law fucker and she was too busy Having Opinions and Also Being Traumatized to be sad about his issues. i do also kind of like dmitri but in a "aw what a fucked up creature that has rabies that i have to put down. how sad. anyway" kind of way. edelgard, on the other hand, just. wants people to be equal? and she knows the church is corrupt and its been killing anyone who dissents? hello? hello?????
anyway its my opinion that 3H should have just been one fucking huge long and arduous Crimson Flower route and nothing else so edelgard couldve gotten the screentime beating slithies that claude ganked from her (im sorry claude but its true you are nothing)
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floofnwool · 3 months
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Byleth and Edelgard wip
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quitekingly · 10 months
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Edelgard is very cool despite being so wrong 😭🙏
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azelfandquilava · 5 months
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Your honour, I believe Ms Edelgard von Hresvelg deserves a cuddle from her surrogate aunt, Ms Cornelia Arnim. As a treat.
(Commission by @platinumamiii)
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ephemeral-dreamer · 1 year
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There is something so poetic about the fact that Crimson Flowers is the only route you actively have to chose.
Every other house leader gains Byleths loyalty as a matter of course.
Edelgard is the only one you actively have to choose.
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horaceinkling · 7 months
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Just Monica
Happy Monica Week, I’ve been sitting on this drawing for almost a year but now is a better time than any to share.
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wenja45 · 1 year
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Edelgards legacy in the fandom
Since people are bringing up post launch Engage (looking at you Raxistachio) not creating much buzz whilst in comparison to Three Houses which is only kept alive by the Edelgard discourse it is time to talk about Edelgard's legacy.
Edelgard's legacy is not looked at fondly she isn't a famous character she is an infamous character that has created the worst discourse in the entire fandom and likely no future games will ever be able to overcome the toxic shithole that is Edelgard discourse.
Edelgard will not be remembered for her character, her route it anything she will just be remembered as the character that created the worst discourse in Fire Emblem history.
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juliakeyoto · 6 months
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bowbowis · 5 months
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In a World for Humanity... There's No Need for Gods...
People trying to make out that CF is the bad ending because Byleth loses their godhood really need to learn about context. As Edelgard says in the very same scene, "when humanity stands strong, and people reach out for each other, there's no need for gods." Byleth's loss of divinity isn't a tragedy because because their godhood is, and always has been, redundant.
Byleth the god didn't show Edelgard she could be loved, or help Dimitri find redemption, or teach Claude to trust others; Byleth the person did. Only one person in the game reduces Byleth to their status a vessel for Sothis's power, and that's Rhea, something even she admits she was wrong for doing in her S-Support. Edelgard doesn't weep in the end of CF because she's mourning that Byleth lost the Godess's power, she weeps because she's overjoyed that the person she loves, the part of Byleth that truly matters, survived.
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raxistaicho · 8 months
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Like a teacher would
There are those who might wonder, "why doesn't Byleth criticize Edelgard for her indirect involvement in the destruction of Remire and the death of Jeralt," and that's a fair question. Let's ask Byleth!
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Wow, it's almost like Byleth is consistently portrayed as a patient, understanding, and forgiving person! Like a teacher!
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usaigi · 6 months
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I wrote a fic Edelgard and Dimitri actually talk. Go read it 🔫
Cuz they deserve to be friends!! In a modern au where they don't have the power to declare war, they should talk!!
Some world building:
Edelgard's father was the PM and leader of the CR party. Ferdie's dad(and the other Seven + the Agarthans) were members of the Far Right Party. They tried to blackmail Edelgard's dad to pass some laws they wanted but when he refused, they started poisoning his children. Slowly, one by one, they all of died. Only Edelgard survived.
Due to the poisoning, Edelgard got Leukemia. She didn't start attending GM until she was in remission (around 13). Dimitri attended starting in middle school but took a year off after the attack to recover. So, they met again when they were 14/15.
Dimitri is still a prince. This universe tragedy of Duscur as basically our equivalent of 911 and it led to the war on terror
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adrestianflames · 9 months
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Not to reopen a four-year-old debate from a four-year-old game but. If you played FE3H and you call Edelgard a fascist? You either do not remotely understand what fascism is, or you didn't pay a modicum of attention to anything Rhea or Dimitri did the entire game, or both. Probably both.
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