#el just wants to help

[estrellami-1]

If I Should Stay

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Just then Eddie walks in, raising his brows at the veritable mountain of food Steve and Eleven are putting together. “What’s all this?”

Steve smiles warmly at him. “Hey, Eds,” he says, which is certainly an experience. He’s spoken roughly twice with the guy—in his memory—but Steve’s three chapters—nay, three books ahead. Eddie is Frodo, about to embark on his first journey, and Steve is Bilbo, or even Gandalf: someone who’s done this all before, whose eyes carry the weight of worlds.

Speaking of, Steve’s eyes dim slightly the longer Eddie takes to answer, so he waves his fingers at Steve, trying to ignore the swoop in his stomach when Steve’s smile brightens again. “So… what’s this?”

“Dinner,” Eleven answers. “We are making sandwiches.”

Eddie nods, because sure. Why not. “Okay.”

“How’s the song coming?” Steve asks, and the swoop returns, because not only is Steve asking, but he’s asking about Metallica, and Eddie’s gay, metal little heart can’t take it.

“Holy shit,” he breathes out, grinning. “It’s so good, oh my god. I mean, it’s gonna take a bit to learn, but it’s gonna be the most metal solo I’ve ever done.”

Steve’s smile dims again. Probably because he’s remembering what happened last time, i.e., Eddie’s death. Eddie pushes down the queasy feeling.

“Eddie,” Eleven says.

“Yeah?”

She turns to face him. Her eyes are more serious than any twelve-year-old’s eyes have any right to be. “You will be okay,” she says. Then, apropos of nothing, “And I can move things with my mind.”

Eddie blinks at that. Apparently his face is doing something, because Steve chimes in. “She can.”

“I can show you,” she volunteers.

“Anything but the utensils,” Steve says in a distracted voice, like this isn’t the first time he’s had this conversation. Eddie wants to laugh hysterically, or maybe cry. Smoking a joint seems like the best third option, except all his stuff is at home. Fuck.

Then she does, lifts a whole cutting board—complete with tomatoes— and moves it over to him. He resists the impulse to snatch a piece and eat it. He doesn’t even like tomatoes, what the fuck, brain.

Steve’s watching with an amused little smile, like he can somehow read Eddie’s mind. That legitimately wouldn’t be the weirdest thing to happen today, so Eddie does his best to stop thinking about it, because he doesn’t think he can deal with more than one real-life superpower right now.

“I need that back, El,” Steve murmurs, and she grins at him before zipping it back over, stopping it just before it hits his face. He nods, brows raised, impressed. “Nice control. Put it down and go wipe your nose, please.”

She does, Steve watching her as she goes, fond little grin on his face. “She’s a good kid.”

“She can move things with her mind.”

“Yeah. Honestly, that’s one of the easier things to get used to. Y’know one of the craziest things, to me?”

“Do I want to know?” Eddie asks hesitantly.

Steve just grins at him. “Jonathan Byers has this baseball bat that he sticks a bunch of nails in.”

Eddie blinks at him. “What the actual fuck.”

Steve nods. “I took it, sometime back during the first year. Actually,” he thinks about it, “what month are we in?”

“Um. October.”

Steve winces. “Great. October…”

“Um. Twenty-fourth.”

Steve hums and thinks. “In about… less than a week, actually, I think—I don’t really know, the concussion messed up my days—oh, hey!” He suddenly says excitedly, then raises his voice. “Rob!”

Robin pops her head in a moment later. “What’s up?”

He grins at her. “No concussions!”

She stares. Slowly, a grin spreads across her face. “Holy shit!” She says. “No concussions!”

“No memory loss!”

“No hearing loss!”

“No eyesight problems!”

She freezes. “Steve. You were having vision issues?”

“Um. Not anymore?”

She groans. “Since when?”

“Um…” he thinks, tilting his head toward the ceiling. “Billy, I think. At least that’s the first time I really noticed it.”

She sighs. “I’m going to murder you.”

“Are not.”

“In cold blood.”

“Are not.”

“Nancy’ll help.”

Steve considers this. “She might. She’d be good at it.”

They both pause for a moment, then Robin turns to leave. “I’m gonna go make sure Jon doesn’t give you a concussion this time.”

“Have him make the nail bat, too!” Steve calls as she leaves.

“What,” Eddie says desperately, “the fuck.”

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#stranger things #if I should stay #pre steddie #steve harrington #eddie munson #el hopper #Robin Buckley #platonic stobin #steve and el #el just wants to help #Eddie’s doing his best not to freak out every other second #he’s trying yall #starambles

[clownsuu]

I give you an

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Also I stole this ask just so I can post this fuggin weirdo I made smhh (I raise from the dead just to post an oc again LMAOAOAOAO)

Hopefully this will be my last one in a long while I can live with 7 fuggin wh characters HHFHFUDJSNKSSJ- well- technically 8 if you include Betsy-

But to keep it (somewhat) short and sweet- my loser- a ye ol Milkman- Zachary Milksop (chronically lactose intolerant) and Betsy (a lil mascot moo sentient puppet)

Another character made almost spur in the moment again (like Mari) though thankfully not another bUG, but just some average human smhh. He’s a really simple guy, a loser, is as interesting as normal milk— he’s just the ye ol milkman who delivers you that gud shid smhh— enjoyer of the finer things in life (lunchables). A lil flirty and charming (in possibly the cringiest way possible) however he doesn’t really seem to pick up anyone besides the local cows that constantly harass him (and eats his pants). He enjoys watching them though, from v e r y m u c h afar——

hes just kinda, “that guy”

Also Betsy- a very sweet woman! She always greets everyone and has the friendliest extroverted personality ever! Always the type to bring (albeit tiny) gifts for her favorite neighbors and always leads when talking to anyone. Not like she would allow Zach to say anything anyway, she hates his polyester guts (and only him smhh)

#HOPEFULLY #h O p e fu l ly #Last oc in a while I am too tired to make another one in the spur of the moment again JDHCGDDH #I’m trying to rest damn it LMAO #But also doesn’t help that iv been feeling like absolute garbage lately #Last night specially- I just couldn’t sleep for the life of me- I was so upset and disheartened- #Dw I’m a lot better today- just still feelin a lil hollow #But anyway! #a loser 😔💔🥄🥄 iv been wanting to make a painfully dumb human character since iv made Dusty #But nOOOOOOOOO I MADE EVERYTHING EL S E #Now iv basically made every version of characters iv been wanting to make- #So now I can finally be at e a s e - #Welcome home #welcome home oc #Also hopefully that will actually motivate me to draw welcome home content again LDNHDJDDJDJ been severely l a c k I n’ #Zachary Milksop & Betsy #They share a tag 💔🥄🥄

[sandinmybed]

can i be fr for a minute?? sending abuse to people online for holding different views than you is not activism and in fact actively hurts your cause. most people are not extreme in their viewpoints, you can give them a new perspective if you're willing to spend some time explaining shit. if someone is saying something you disagree with and you rush in there to condescend to them and call them disgusting and subhuman and dont even TRY to explain calmly why their views are harmful, they're going to shut you out instantly and double down on their views.

most people are simply genuinely ignorant to the issues they're talking about - they just pick their views up from the news and the world around them and express opinions because that's what every person does. if you run in there and tell them they're scum for it, what then? if someone does that to you, are you going to think "maybe i should do some research" or are you going to think "this person is an asshole, im blocking them." a lot of you think you're activists and then refuse to do any kind of actual WORK to support your cause.

#this is not about the isr*el thing even tho thats obviously a huge issue rn #its just a pattern ive observed online #im not saying you have to be kind to people who oppress you dont twist my words #but if youre trying to support any cause and you think calling people names is going to help #youre a fucking idiot lol #people call themelves activists and pro-X cause because they called their opposition dirty c*nts online #how the hell is that meant to help anyone? theyre just going to retreat into their propaganda chambers because you proved what the leaders #of those spaces have been telling them #you can obvs block people if you dont want to deal w them but thats a neutral action. sending abuse harms ur cause. #text #like educating ignorant people is hard work! yeah! its also the entire fucking point of activisim #and if you think its too much effort then just stop pretending you give a shit tbh #like my parents managed to change our neighbour's very xenophobic stance on migrants with a calm conversation #some people will listen and some wont and shes not exactly going out to protests for migrants rights but shes not hostile anymore #and a lot of yall think that isnt good enough but let me tell you it IS good because these things take time! #unlearning things is MUCH harder than learning them in the first place and a lot of people grew up in environments that taught them #very discriminatory and conservative views and its actually not their fault. and its hard to educate yourself differently on something you #have no idea is not true. where do you start w that?

[clambuoyance]

“But do I have a soul?”

“Of course you do.”

#girl help I was just looking for refs for a comic slash fic and went insane #dc #kon el #Conner kent #kontent #superboy #I COULD ADD SO MUCH #anyways smth smth i think experiencing life and making friends and loving them with everything you have is what life is all about personally #it’s about love #in my head or if I were to make a show his arc of losing that ego and immaturity would be directly tied to him wanting to be more protective #coughs can u tell I’m a Kai stan

[chirpsythismorning]

Some of the evidence supporting Mike not being in love with El is brutal. No, but seriously.

In s3, when El's leg is injured, instead of Mike putting his arm around her waist, allowing him to take some of the weight off her injured leg, he puts his arm around her shoulder, basically having the exact opposite affect of taking the weight off of her, instead just adding more weight for her to have to carry.

Now, I’m not coming at Mike here, I’m actually coming at the writers, because this choice here has everything to do with them using this gesture to signal Mike’s lack of feelings for El, even at the expense of realism.

I say this bc any person with common sense, including Finn and everyone around him and Millie filming these shots, would've known it looked unnatural for Mike to be adding more weight onto El as opposed to taking some off of her.

This means that what Mike did here, Finn was directed to do, and therefore it was for a specific reason.

And we know they could have easily made the opposite choice, because they show us Max AND Lucas doing it.

See how putting an arm around El's waist looks so much more natural? Because homegirl is injured and clearly needs help taking weight off her leg to qualm some of the pain she's experiencing there, which is why Max and Lucas are shown here doing it the correct way.

And so, why can't Mike do the same? Why are the writers making a point to show Mike being incapable of simply taking some weight off of El, instead doing the exact opposite?

I don't think it's as deep as Mike not being able to do something intimate, and that's bc, again we see Max and Lucas doing it.

I honestly think what they're trying to convey with this choice here, is that Mike thinks he's helping El, when he is in fact doing the opposite despite his best efforts. The implications of that and how that sort of aligns with their romantic relationship and what it leads to at the end of s3, going into s4, is pretty spot on.

I do think Mike thinks he's doing the right thing by being with El instead of voicing any doubts at the end of s3, because he is under the assumption that she is in love with him. I do think he believes he is indebted to her and that this is the least he can do after everything they've been through together, which has mostly been riddled with romantic pressures and so continuing that instead of disputing it seems like the only option anyways. Not to mention, he does care for her deeply, so it's not hard to imagine that he's a teenage boy confusing deep care for love (he literally tells us this is his problem when he can only say care and not love to El's face... but that's a whole other conversation).

Still, when it's all said and done, Mike's not actually doing El any favors by being with her romantically, if that is not what he truly wants.

Because that's the sad truth about all of this, which is that you would never want someone to be with you just because you want them. If you knew that they truly couldn't have those feelings for you, you'd want to know, right? You don't deserve someone just because you have deep feelings for them. And I think there's so many layers to this idea, bc many people are capable of not giving Byler a chance bc they truly believe Mike could never return Will's feelings. Will also feels this way atp, so though it hurts, he rips the band aid off, because he would never want Mike to be with him just out of pity or something. No one would want that. And so it all really comes down to who Mike truly loves romantically and wants to be with. And the right thing to do, even if it hurts someone, is to be honest, because being with them just bc you think that will make them happy is never going to be enough if you aren't truly feeling it, or worse, feel it for someone else.

We see how Mike's inability to be honest with El at the end of s3, leads to a season of Mike feeling deeply insecure and undeserving of the love El has to offer him, and even though he does try, he always comes up short. Despite Mike putting up this front that they are the perfect couple, the details are telling us something is off. And it gives him away.

Another example that I think is very similar to this loaded gesture from Mike to El in s3, is the scene in s4 when they hug in the airport.

Common sense ppl, picture this: You're reuniting with your long distance girlfriend. Then suddenly, she runs up to you, with her arms wide open, and instead of opening your arms wide to embrace her properly, you take the bouquet of flowers you brought her as a gift, and shove them against your chest just as she approaches to hug you, effectively squishing the present you got for her (a pretty delicate present at that) for no reason other than to... what exactly?

Like?? El isn't even squishing the present Mike, she's trying to hug you, dude! Your gf is trying to hug you properly and you threw the gift you got for her in between you so you could throw in a careful! x3??

Again, this has less to do with Mike's thoughts and reasoning behind this gesture in a literal sense, and more to do with the simple fact that this is a narrative choice! Mike is not a real person! There are real people sitting down and writing this and actors are having to do multiple takes to act it out. What feels natural for a situation is going to be what is often chosen 9 times out of 10, because of realism and wanting the audience to see stuff happening that is believable. That 1 time though, when it's not being done the way it would usually be, is usually because there's a specific reason for it.!

So the question really is, not why is Mike doing this, but why are the writers having Mike do this, and what message are they trying to convey about Mike's feelings based on his behavior, in these moments where he's just not capable of committing to El genuinely, one way or another?

#byler #no but most of the gay subtext is just so like... you really didn't have to do all that? #gay subtext at the expense of realism? check #mike thinks he's helping el by not breaking her heart and just being with her despite feelings for will he can't deny #very reminiscent of mike's 'maybe you thought you were helping but you weren't. you hurt me! what you did sucks!' #i do think it would be epic too see that moment come full circle but with el saying it to mike this time #bc i'm sure el would much rather have her heartbroken finding out that mike is incapable of loving her romantically #than to find out he was with her bc he didn't want to hurt her even at the expense of his own happiness #like no one wants to have someone be with them out of pity or obligation #we want someone to love us truly and deeply and genuinely! #we see how much el struggles in s4 bc of all the hints she's getting from mike that he doesn't genuinely love her #bc that's the most important part of a romantic relationship #it being equal #and it didn't feel that way #sure she's gonna be pissed #but she's gonna be more pissed he wasn't just honest #friends don't lie obvs

[razberrypuck]

I do not trust el q at all but also his response to charlie saying that it felt like gegg was gone being just. "no, gegg is my son. gegg is my son." like I GET it could be some way to get charlie to feel bad for him but I'm also thinking about. when foolish shot gegg in the first presidental debate, el q physically jumped in front of him while yelling at foolish to stop. put himself between foolish and gegg, with a gun momentarily pointed at him, while baghera and jaiden made sure gegg was okay. this is the same man that doesn't usually address the eggs at all. this is the same man that barely recognized the ticket quackity got when he adopted tilin. rrhgvhehgr idk im. conflicted.

#i just think “evil clone isnt supposed to care about anything- but this weird little guy thats supposed to be his son is so strange-- #--he cant help but form SOME KIND of attachment to him“ is neat #listen. if anyone on the server could be a friend to el q. it would be charlie. #i want the DRAMA #qsmp #qsmp el quackity #qsmp charlie #qsmp slimecicle #qsmp gegg

[cosmic-d1ce]

Q!Slime is such a genuinely tragic character

He's talked about his bad childhood and how it affected the way he raised Flippa, he wanted to treat her well but this is the best he can do. He never had a good model, but he knows he was hurt by what his father did to him. His parenting is a toned down version of his father's parenting.

He was not a good dad but he tried his best and he loved his daughter. Accepted her with no problems when she came out, provided for her through any means necessary. He made a literal deal with the devil for his daughter's safety. He gave everything to her, all the food he had, even when he was starving, every resource went to making her safe and happy.

Everything he's done was out of love, and later grief.

Mariana was never a good spouse, but Charlie trusted him. Charlie thought that Mariana could be trusted alone with their daughter. He put so much trust in him and the next day, his daughter was laying dead in the house they made together, the bed he made for her.

Not only was his daughter dead, it was his wife that did it. They swore, "until death do we part" but Charlie could've never imagined the death that would part them would be their daughter's. Everything he loved and cared about was gone so quickly, taken like it was nothing. But it was everything to him. His home, his wife, his daughter. They were everything to him.

And his grief was so dangerous, Flippa's death, Mariana's betrayal, it broke him. In that moment, he wasn't him anymore, a broken man with nothing left to lose. If he had lost everything, why did everyone else get to be happy? Why him? Why Flippa? Why his family?

He lashed out, hoping that if he was loud enough, he could get her back. If he made an impact, destroyed the world, they'd HAVE to give her back. Right?

And then everything was good again, he got Flippa back, he had Mariana, even if it was tough, he had his family back. For a short time, he got exactly what he had wished for, a second chance!

But he blew it. So fast.

And again, for a second time, one misclick had ruined everything. Flippa wasn't gone but she hated him. Tilín was dead and Quackity was going to hate him. Nobody would help him this time.

So, he left, gave Flippa everything, but kept the flower she gave him. The only thing he cared about enough to keep. No food, no weapons or tools or resources, just a flower, a gift from his baby girl.

And he exiled himself, promising to be better by the time he comes back.

But Flippa won't get to see him better.

Because Flippa is dead.

By Mariana's hands, again.

#qsmp #qsmp slimecicle #qsmp juanaflippa #qsmp el mariana #qsmp spoilers #slimariana #I love him #My favourite goopy guy #Hes goopin and gunkin in sorrow #help him i beg #Also his egg thing is like a rlly weird form of age regression real #HE JUST WANTS TO BE LOVED #HE WANTS A HAPPY FAMILY #IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK??

[bylertruther]

if will has to be the one to teach el what homophobia is when she asks him why he lied or didn't tell her about mike or even something as innocuous as the painting then please know that i WILL be passing away because noah is going to put his entire schnappussy into channeling the bone-deep ache of every repressed gay kid that grew up in a conservative environment, was abandoned by a parent for their sexuality, and that has had to hide who they are if they wanted to survive, to deliver the performance of a damn Lifetime

#and millie's face... when el learns that it isn't the same thing #that el can talk about mike and miss him openly but will can't even give him a painting bc it could come off #the wrong way and he never wanted to hurt her and he's so sorry and so on and so forth #AND IF EL HITS HIM WITH AN 'I UNDERSTAND' BECAUSE SHE DOES! SHE WAS THERE WHEN TROY SAID WHAT HE SAID! #WHEN MIKE GOT SO ANGRY AND HELD BACK HIS TEARS AS HE CHARGED FORWARD TO SHOVE HIM! #SHE UNDERSTANDS NOW! AND SHE'S SORRY TOO! #AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH #imagine if el finds out in will's mind bc henry reveals that fact to try and divide them but it backfires #will feels enough guilt n shame tht he tries to pull away but el won't let him bc he's her brother and she loves him #as a parallel to when he was there to help her pick up the pieces when angela humiliated her yknow #UGH S5 JUST HAS SO MANY POSSIBILITIES ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE #mine

[rotisseries]

the way elmike had the possibility of a very close and real and intimate friendship stolen out from under them because of heteronormativity telling them the only way they were meant to fit in each other's lives was romantically, even though neither of them truly wanted that... pushing them further apart... tragic. literally so tragic

#what am I ON tonight someone get me help since when do I care this much about the 2 of them #no but literally. season 1 they're understanding each other so well... it warms a bitch's heart #like truly it's the foundations of something so sweet but then everyone is telling them it must be romantic #and it sours it. now they're no longer just 2 people with a budding friendship #now they're a Boy And A Girl and The Boy And The Girl and can it get any more obvious? #and then in s4... they're both gripping so tight to a dead thing because they've never allowed their relationship to be anything else #they've never BEEN allowed to BE anything else #SO THEY'RE CONVINCED THAT IF THEY WANT TO BE IN EACH OTHER'S LIVES AT *ALL* IT HAS TO BE ONLY THAT WAY #THAT'S THE FUCK OF IT ALL #sorry that's my new favorite phrase all of a sudden #BUT WHAT. SORRY LIKE BEAUTIFUL ELMIKE FRIENDSHIP KILLED DEAD IN THE WATER BECAUSE OF FUCKING HETERONORMATIVITY #stranger things #el hopper #mike wheeler #elmike

[ghost-bard]

Yknow. I dont think charlie is gonna win the trial.

I think that because of what Charlie did yesterday its going to be ruled that hes a danger (mainly to himself and his family) and because of that, Mariana gets custody and Charlie gives away his soul to bring JuanaFlippa back.

And i think Charlie will go “back to hell.”

And i think he is going to crawl his way out because he doesn’t think Mariana can take care of their daughter.

And i think he is going to cause much more chaos than he did before. Probably by accident if we’re being honest.

#qsmp #quackity smp #qsmp slimecicle #qsmp elmariana #qsmp mariana #qsmp juanaflippa #el mariana #slimecicle #charlie slimecicle #this is me just saying i want him to stream being in minecraft hell im not even gonna lie #i think itd be so interesting #ALSO!!! mariana trying to be a good parent to juanaflippa :) #after the accident #i wanna see him get a redemption arc #teehee #i want the absolute just whiplash of mariana trying to be a good parent #and like getting help from the others (prob jadien and rorier if im being honest) #and then charlie dragging his way out of hell #so this way he can take care juanaflippa #or at the very least make sure that she is being taken care of

[grapesodatozier]

“#true love won't desert you truly a mileven thesis statement of a lyric damn” EXACTLY!!!’ Exactly.

the way mike refuses to let her ever isolate or sacrifice herself. the way he is always there for her when she needs him and vice versa. i am going to cry i love them so much

#i could go on forever about this #about them being there for each other constantly #and when el is upset mike never stops until he knows whats wrong and how to help #the way he just wants to be there for her supporting her in every way he can #from setting the tunnels on fire to protect her to crossing the country just so she doesn't have to go through something so hard alone #HOW am i supposed to be normal about them?? #el seeing mike in trouble and getting on a bus to him as soon as possible in s2 #there are a million other examples but im going to go into cardiac arrest lmao #mileven #my favorites in the whole world <3

[givehimthemedicine]

El learning about volunteer preemie cuddlers at the hospital. it's explained to her that babies need to be held and comforted a lot for their development, and that babies who get lots of loving contact grow up healthier. her only question is what about the other ones. the ones who don't get enough. she wonders if she would be different today if...

this becomes something El does regularly in her adult years. she hates hospitals, they remind her of the lab, but that's exactly the reason. she won't let those babies be alone and unloved in some sterile room. this is not the same, she knows, but that's what drives her. and that's what Max knows drives her, and that's why Max often goes with her even though she hates hospitals too. it both swells and breaks her heart to watch how sweet El is to the babies. she never does vocalize her understanding. she doesn't need to.

#but imagine El finding out there's just. a room full of babies. and she can't conceptualize it any other way than Lab #El bursting into the nicu like HANG ON BABIES I'M COMING TO FREE YOU with like 3 security guards hanging off of her #Max: EL STOP THEY'RE HELPING THEM #THAT'S WHAT THEY !!WANT!! YOU TO THINK #EL DO NOT FREE THOSE BABIES #WHY WHAT HAVE THEY DONE #headcanon #angst #mine #elmax

[clambuoyance]

All he needs is one last chance to prove he’s good enough for someone

anyways stream good kid from the lighting thief musical it reminds me of Kon ☹️ esp the part about moving homes and schools so much and wanting someone to have faith in you and just give u a chance

#WARREGHHHHHHHHHHHH #said this on twt but I was like #what if the reason kon is so willing to help and believe in the good of his antagonist or believe that they can change is bc #he is just reflecting the same faith in others he hopes ppl will have in him #and ofc this is not what johns intended but it’s the hc I am adding for reasons as to why #kon was desperate to find out if lex had good in him #bc one it’s just in his nature to do so #and two bc he thinks it’ll have an impact on his own worth and it shakes up his faith in himself #URGH THERES MORE TO THIS I WANT TO SAY BANGS A POT ON MY HEAD VIOLENTLY #clam draws #dc clamics #kon el #KONTENT

[chirpsythismorning]

Mike yelling at everyone for expecting El to fight for ‘no reason’ in s3… please Mike, share with the class what would qualify as a valid reason for El to fight?? Will being in danger perhaps? The plot of s1-2 perhaps?

#byler #stranger things #mike wheeler #i think it’s really interesting tjay in s1-2 mike never asks el if she WANTS to help #she’s in danger and is running from bad men #and Mike feels the urge to help her bc she is in a situation that no kid should be #but then also his best friend is missing #and this girl has super powers and knows where he is??? #Mike doesnt take a moment to talk with el to assure helping and straining herself and her powers #if this is what she wants to be doing #and i think el interprets that as this being a requirement for her to stay around #she also recognized Will and so for all we know she did want to help #but the back and forth between both Mike and Dustin and Lucas sort of doubting her #and in worst case scenarios lashing out #ultimately leading to her sacrifice #it makes sense why Mike specifically felt sooooo much guilt #bc he just expected her to help w/out asking first if that’s what she wanted to do #and so then she returns in s2 ALIVE #and yes relieved #but again Will is in danger again #but el is also putting herself in danger after JUST returning #yet mike doesn’t try to convince her to not fight despite the dangers implied #bc the reason for her fighting is valid to him #i just think it’s interesting that the instant Will being in danger is off the table #Mike is now suddenly critical that they need a more justified reason for her to fight #who wants to guess that if Will’s well being wasnt involved #Mike never would have all those doubts in s3 about el going through with it #he might have told her to be careful bc he doesn’t want to lose her #but i don’t think he would have tried to convince her to not fight #i just find that to be something we should examine… in terms of understanding mikes deeper feelings/guilt (survivors)

[1-800-whatwouldbillydo]

Something about Billy still running to that phonebooth and calling for help, even after being let down so many times...

He still had hope. The world turned its back on him long ago and he ended up dying to save it. 

#HE WANTED HELP AND NO ONE HELPED HIM #except heather #my underrated queen ily #and el ofc #for him to STILL HAVE HOPE #UGH I HATE IT HERE #billy hargrove #late night posting #ch: billy hargrove #it is my personal opinion that #he did not want to die #he was tired of the life he was given #and he wanted out of that life #i know that feeling very well #you just want to kill off your personal hell so you can live in the heaven you were owed since birth

[doodlboy]

Silly lil meme ft. B-EL-phie lore 💙

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#obey me #obey me belphegor #belphegor obey me #belphegor #lesson 16 spoilers #obey me spoilers #anyway yeah so L16 happened BUUUUT!!!! immediately upon coming back to life El made a beeline for belphegor #and jumped on his back to try to yank his head off by his horns #they're fine now tho. el got a few months of nightmares and trauma and then therapy abt it #and then threatened to maim belphie within an inch of his life if he ever tried that shit again and they were good after that👍 #i should also mention the reason el was so pissed off is bc he was crushing HARD on belphie and just had faith bel wouldn't kill him #bc el knew belphie was lying to him from the start but he still had faith in him and wanted to help him get out of the attic #powered by pure heartbroken rage baybeeeee #anywayyy just realized i forgot my art tags oops #digital art #elliot doodles #exploding tumblr for desaturating my art AGAIN