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warrioreowynofrohan · 2 months
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Posting a poll because I’m curious about the Silm fandom’s thoughts on this:
I’ve tried to include what I think may be the most likely combinations, but I’m interested if there are others. In cases where not all sons of Fëanor are mentioned, the placement of the non-mentioned ones is flexible.
Potential rationales underlying the options:
Option 1: Fëanor is the one who kicked everything off with the Oath etc., and deliberately making his sons swear it a second time right before his death.
Option 2: Sons of Fëanor killed a lot more people in total.
Option 3: Celegorm and Curufin do the most evil with the least remorse (usurping Finrod; kidnapping and attempted forced marriage of Lúthien; second attempted kidnapping of Lúthien and attempted murder of Beren and Lúthien; threatening to kill Thingol; Celegorm as leading impetus for Second Kinslaying; Celegorm’s servants leaving 6-year-olds to die of exposure); Maedhros and Maglor show more positive qualities and remorse than the other brothers.
Option 4: Maedhros and Maglor commit largest number of total kinslayings (due to the others dying earlier)
Option 5: Carathir commits the fewest evil deeds of any of the Sons of Fëanor (Celegorm and Curufin also have everything during the Leithian, the others also have the Third Kinslaying).
Option 6: For those who prefer the Amrod-dies-at-Losgar version, in that version he is the least guilty of the Sons of Fëanor, having been involved only in the First Kinslaying and wanting to return to Valinor and repent.
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cyraes · 7 months
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alright im finally done. *collapses*
Dark Lord, Lady of Light.
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blankdblank · 11 months
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New Chapter is up
Thranduil x Therapist oc
Garlic & Clover - Falling to Middle Earth might have been the best thing that could have happened in your life after two devastating losses. Culture clashes and stubborn Dwarves however bring about a plan to escape with the help of the Elf King no less. Change and a share of histories and talents might find the King was very much in need of saving too.
Pt 1 - Pt 2 - Pt 3 - Pt 4 - Pt 5 - Pt 6 -
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Feanorëan Fancast! 
Feanor- Cillian Murphy Nerdanel - Rose Leslie  Maedhros - Eddie Redmayne  Maglor - Blake Ritson  Celegorm - Emma D’arcy Curufin - Samuel Roukin Caranthir - Freddy Carter  Amrod - Dylan Sprouse Amras - Cole Sprouse 
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novinare · 3 months
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✏️ | Elladan and Maglor
INCORRECT QUOTES // @voxiiferous
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Maglor: I only have 6 weeks left to live.
Elladan: Oh my god, really?!
Maglor: It's just a guesstimate based on the choices I've made.
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Elladan: Astrology is fun because I can pretend that all of my behaviors are just a result of being a Gemini and not symptoms of mental illness.
Maglor: Being a Gemini is a mental illness. That’s not hate it’s just a fact.
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*Maglor and Elladan looking at a locked gate into a park* Maglor: Aw. :( Elladan: You know what they say. Maglor: Please don’t- Elladan: BE GAY DO CRIME! *hops gate* Maglor: Frick-
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collegeoflore · 7 months
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being extremely tolkien autistic sucks because the elf lore does NOT line up. anyway i think astarion would be noldor and was probably pretty okay with at least the first kinslaying LOL
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deadqueernoldor · 1 year
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Elrond has an internal alarm that goes off when she gets pregnant again and finds them. He decides to camp out there and help out.
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Nerdanel's got that gut feeling and cant place it and then she remembers that fuck, tinwe is on vacation with ecthelion. Then she remembers that FUCK, Nerdanel and Feanor have begotten four of their children on their own little vacations.
Girl rides to find where they are to help. By that time babies can already crawl and immediately take a liking to that new person with cool hair colour.
Yup yup yup. Huan knows tinwe is scared shirtless but Luke's cats and birds but birds are shit babysitters. He leaves and comes back with a lynx and tho bobcats lmao
I feel like Elrond knows something is up but cant quite place it bc he's never dealt with pregnant tinwe before. I think that when he sees Nerdanel nust run for the hills he connects the dots.
Next time he gets that weird feeling he's starting to buy baby presents lol
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sotwk · 8 months
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Jennifer Connelly's Beauty: Appreciation Post
Relevance? She is my personal fancast/face claim for the Elvenqueen, aka Thranduil's wife aka Legolas's mother--my OC, Queen Maereth.
I just think Jennifer is SO beautiful, in a very timeless (Elvish) way, with the "dark", seductive beauty of the Noldor/Feanoreans.
Definitely the kind of beauty that would stop even Thranduil in his tracks!
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thranduilswifesblog · 4 months
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Celebrimbor : hello, welcome to eregion, today were talking about... Uuh??
Elrond : *whispering* building loyalties
Celebrimbor : heh? Killing royalties?
Everyone on the room who has PTSD thanks to Feanorean : NO!!
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gwaedhannen · 4 months
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au ideas? 👀
AU ideas! (Also thanks to the anon who asked)
Oh Eru this got long.
One of my first goals when I got into silm fic was a series of works depicting different ways in which canon events could have happened, ranging from different variations of canon compliance to off-the-wall AUs. And of course I decided two of the most controversial parts of canon would be the best places to start: Aredhel and Eöl, and Elwing's leap. I doubt I'll get to these fics any time soon, but I've got some ideas for the variations sketched out:
Ways in which a body strikes the ocean at terminal velocity
Elwing sends Elrond and Elros to hide, and runs the other way to pull the Feanoreans away. Cornered at the cliff, yells at them, jumps.
As before, but Elrond and Elros are captured and dragged before her.
She hands it over, and it burns. The holder walks off the cliff himself (and the other brother follows?)
She throws it away, and either gets stabbed and tossed off the cliff for that, or a brother walks off in despair.
Eärendil is also there. His cousins have made him a kinslayer. He's not happy about that.
Elurín and Eluréd are the leaders of Sirion instead. They leap together. Ulmo can only save one.
Ambarussa are the surviving Fëanorians instead of Maedhros and Maglor.
Ways in which the White Lady of the Noldor was lost in the darkness of Nan Elmoth
Generally canon compliant but give Aredhel a bit more agency (she was content at first, and Eöl's assholery doesn't become as much of an issue until after Maeglin is born, at which point she's unwilling to leave him behind if she flees).
As above, except Eöl has a crisis of conscious and admits his enchantment and manipulation while Aredhel is pregnant. She ditches him for Himlad.
Going off the NoME version where Eöl is an Amanyar Noldor and part of Fëanor's host, and he and Aredhel were followers of Melkor. In which Aredhel takes part in the kinslaying but Eöl doesn't, but Eöl somehow is on the boats when Fëanor and co. slip away. He's not happy about that, fucks off from Mithrim ASAP, and wanders into Nan Elmoth to chill out. Aradhel incidentally walks in 300 years later and shit's awkward.
Galadriel wanders into Nan Elmoth instead. Dunno exactly how this one goes but there's probably explosions involved and at least one of them dead (likely Eöl) within a year.
Nan Elmoth is hungry, and Eöl is trapped there as much as Aredhel is.
Other ideas:
Unwritten AKA "Dior DGAF"
In which Dior noclips out of the Halls of Mandos immediately upon arrival and goes right back into his body. He picks up his sons and walks out of the narrative layer.
The Dusk, the Dawn, the Earth/Dear Shadow Alive and Well/And I am Left
AKA the Beren/Lúthien/Thuringwethil OT3 series. In which Thuringwethil, irrevocably altered by Lúthien taking her bat-fell and partially re-singing her, knocks on their door demanding Lúthien undo whatever change made her start feeling things like "guilt" and "love". Lúthien, horrified by what she did (effectively partially rewriting her personality) agrees to help make a new fell. Beren's along for the ride.
For the fur, she joins Camlost on the hunt. Under his quiet direction she crafts traps for rabbits, whispering her thanks to Yavanna’s bounty as her teeth pierce their necks. She stalks foxes until she is near enough to dive upon them with her claws, Nessa’s most ancient name on her lips for sure steps and bursting speed. She fashions a bow from a young yew sapling, crafts arrows from reeds fletched with Tinúviel’s gifted feathers, strings it with her own hair, and praises Aulë’s ingenuity in searching chirps as the replies guide her aim to a grazing deer. And finally, she calls Tulkas to witness as she hefts Camlost’s spear towards the growls of a desperate wandering wolf bereft of its master. As each prize is skinned, she asks Oromë if she has taken too much from the wild, and trusts in the silence of his answer. The rabbits she consumes entire. The foxes she drains, and leaves the remains for the vultures. The deer she carries back for Tinúviel to prepare venison and jerky. The wolf they burn.
Also featuring the inherent trauma of watching your spouses die and giving your son the cursed jewelry you can tell will one day destroy him.
Children of Dior roleswap
In which Elurín and Eluréd escape with the Silmaril, and Elwing is captured (and not thrown into the woods for whatever reason) and raised by the Fëanorians and not told the details of the Kinslaying. She's thoroughly unhappy when she finds out.
She wants to scream until the entire hill crumbles into dust and ghosts. Murderers, murderers! Maedhros with his dead eyes and nightmares only she can sing away, Maglor and his endless laments for his own failures, Amrod with his maddened silence and vivisecting gaze, Amras desperate for salvation and haunted by guilt—not haunted enough! How long did they mean to continue the lie? Now she knows why Maedhros refuses to train her beyond basic self-defense. Why Maglor only teaches her Songs of healing and succor. Why Amras never brings her more than a mile from the citadel to practice woodcraft. Why Amrod gives her nothing at all. She is a hostage without need for chains and locks, with no way to survive the wilds and roaming orcs should she run. If she looks east and a little south, can she pretend she sees the shoreline kingdom where her brothers reign? She doesn’t even know their names.
Yet another Gil-Galad origin theory
In which Gil-Galad gets adopted by no fewer than three Finweans and yet is blood related to none of them.
Still-untitled "Fëanor takes the Helcaraxë" AU
Second problem: how exactly is he going to get his people to Endórë? Tol Eressëa is anchored, and regardless Ulmo would not move it again for them. The Noldor have little skill in boatcraft, and even if they did, the sheer number required would take decades to build. But there are already fine ships in Aman, are there not? Well maybe he should've thought of that two hundred leagues ago.
Túrin and Nienor live
Unfortunately they're still cursed.
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warrioreowynofrohan · 10 months
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1, 13 and 25 for the choose violence asks please!
the character everyone gets wrong
Let's see, I already did Maedhros, and and I did posts about most of the other Fëanoreans as well (but seriously, everyone does get Celegorm wrong, he's politically ambitious and dangerous, not dumb and feral).
I think much of fandom gets the Valar wrong. The thing that I always come back to about the Valar is that everything they do is about love for the Eruhini and wanting them to be happy and safe and well. They err (because the Eruhini are meant for more than just being happy and safe), but it's all coming from that place of love and care. They ask the Elves to come to Aman so that they're not exposed to the dangers of Middle-earth. (I think they don't stay in Middle-earth in part because they remember Almaren and the destruction of the lamps, which ruined continents.) They let the elves do basically what they want - they've got virtually no rules besides "don't threaten to kill people" and "don't kill people", both of which come up in response to situations they really never anticipated. The rescue of Maedhros by Thorondor and the foundation of Nargothrond and Gondolin shows that they are clearly willing to help the Noldor, even after the Kinslaying and the Doom.
The difficulty is, in part the nature of their power. The Valar are at the same time tremendously powerful, to the point where they cannot have a direct war with the forces of evil without it levelling continents, and much less powerful than we expect them to be. They can't stop the Kinslaying by snapping their fingers and pulling all the elves' weapons out of their hands; that's not an ability they have, and getting involved would mean personally killing large numbers of elves, something they are clearly unwilling to do. They're far from omniscient; they don't always know what's happening outside Valinor. So people get confused and aggravated by them, because they simultaneously have the powers of gods and lack the powers of comic book superheroes.
13. worst blorboficiation
Finrod!! I get so tired of seeing him portrayed as a ditz, as a flake, as naïve, as sleeps-with-everything. Finrod is probably both the most intelligent and the most intellectually curious character in The Silmarillion (come on, the longest scene we get with him an an extended philosophical debate!), as well as being the wisest and most thoughtful. He's the linchpin of diplomacy for all Beleriand and things fall apart without him. He's not naïve; he walks to his death knowing that's what he's doing (he's already foreseen that his oath to Barahir will destroy him and that Nargothrond will not survive).
I think where it comes from is the fact that he's kind, and there's a sort of assumption running through society that kindness and intelligence/awareness are opposed to each other; that someone who is ruthless must also be intelligent, and that someone who is kind must also be dumb. (I partly blame House and Sherlock.) Neither are true.
25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing
"Yes but the Silmarils are the Fëanoreans' property!" When did tumblr of all places start believing in the absolute sanctity of property rights? No need to go all stand-your-ground/libertarian about it.
I don't care. I really don't. I think that Beren and Lúthien achieving the impossible feat of getting one out of Angband, at overwhelming personal cost and in the teeth of Fëanorean opposition, does give them a right to it, and I think the Fëanoreans cease to have any right to make any demands whatsoever of the people they attempted to rape and murder, or of those people's son. The Silmaril itself accepts Beren's claim, in despite of the Silmarils being hallowed against "mortal flesh", even as it later rejects the Fëanoreans'. Beren and Luthien suffer greatly in order to obtain the Silmaril, they are meant to have it, and the fact that it is part of their family line enables the salvation of Middle-earth. That's enough for me.
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niennawept · 11 months
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Hey look - I'm just not on the side of the Rings of Power fandom that ever talks about the Harfoots, so forgive me if this has been remarked on before, but ... is that meant to be a Feanorean star on her necklace?
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I kind of really like the implication that this just washed up on a river bank somewhere and she went, "oooh - this is pretty" and just stuck it there for safekeeping. I wonder if it's a fragment of armor or something.
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modernmythic · 5 months
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Do you have any theories about Glorfidnel's lineage, parentage, or blood relations? For example, might he have been related to the Feanoreans somehow?
I already have my own headcanons about this since Glorfindel is a supporting canon in my AU stories, but I wanted to see what a Glorfindel expert thinks. 😊
Thank you!
Well I will not pretend to be an expert I'm just obsessed with him and he lives rent free in my head but I think if he's related to the Feanorians it's probably quite distantly? I personally don't think he's related to them, but who knows! We know he's nobility since he's one of the Lords of Gondolin but I don't think he (or the other Lords with the exception of Maeglin) are related to Turgon. Perhaps his family was loyal to Fingolfin and followed Turgon after Fingolfin was killed? I hadn't really thought much about his parents honestly. Maybe they didn't make it when they were all crossing the Helcaraxë? This answer is all wild speculation but thank you for asking because it was fun to think about something I hadn't considered much!! 💛
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Tolkien Index
Sauron Meta
The Nameless Enemy (Deep dive into the name "Mairon," why Mairon may have been considered an exemplar of his order, and why being "Admirable" makes it hard to be alone)
Why Is Sauron's Original Name In Quenya If Sauron Was Never In Valinor? (Extrapolating from thoughts in "The Nameless Enemy," why might the Elves have translated The Admirable's Valarin name into Quenya?)
Tolkien the Horror Writer (How Tolkien uses the magnetic power of Sauron's ability to subvert, capture, and direct his image and the image characters have of each other as a horror device)
The Inverted Mountain (On the only moment in LotR where we get a look into Sauron's perspective)
Reckoning Nothing of Wizardry or War (My favorite LotR passage—and a bit about the things that Sauron can't control)
How to Destroy Your Enemies and Influence People (What was Sauron really doing in Numenor? Was it really just about revenge? Or was he "Making a Point"?)
Whom Morgoth Made (On the first appearance of Thu-Sauron in the Primary World and what Tolkien might have meant by calling him one "whom Morgoth made.")
Fixation and Attachment Can Lead to Missing Fingers (On why Sauron seems to have trouble fixing injuries to his physical form even when he can still shape-shift and rebuild a body)
Ordering Reality (On Sauron the conlanger, or how Sauron and Tolkien shared a hobby that allowed them to conceptually organize existence)
Quote: "The Necromancer Is Not Child's Play" Sauron and The Panopticon [r+] Sauron Doesn't Use "Sauron" [r+] Methods of Forging the Rings in Visual Adaptations [r+] Sauron's Villainy as Parody [r+] Quick Thoughts on PE17 Sauron's Numenorean Misinformation Campaign Sauron's Canonically Pretty Handwriting [r+] Babel Builders A Little Sauron Crack More Sauron Crack Evolution of Depictions: When Sauron Became Sexy Excerpts from "Moral Vision in The Lord of the Rings" Bombadil and The Ring Gollum's Song or Sauron's Song Ar-Pharazon the "Besotted"
Metaphysics and Eucatastrophe Meta
The Whole Damn Thing Is Fallen (Some dark and at times personal thoughts on theodicy, the nature of Nature, and Arda (un)Marred vs Arda Healed)
The Whole Damn Thing Is Fallen II (Continuation and elaboration of the previous thoughts on theodicy, the nature of Nature, Arda (un)Marred vs Arda Healed, and Tolkien's Felix Culpa)
Is Eucatastrophe Inherently Teleological? (Questions about whether Tolkien's idea of eucatastrophe requires a universe that is understood to be teleological and differences in reader engagement based on differences in metaphysical viewpoint)
Perspective and Scale [r+] (Adding thoughts about the way Gandalf and Aragorn are able to interact with Middle-earth due to their unique experiences of the extremes of scale)
The Ainur and Subcreation [r+] (Thoughts on The Exploration of Potential Things (imagining/fantasy) > The Invocation of Potential Things (envisioning with a clear purpose/planning) > The Evocation of Potential Things (making))
The Imagining and the Making (Follow up to "The Ainur and Subcreation")
Emergent Properties of Ea (Thoughts on Vaire and Story and whether story can be said to be an emergent property of Ea)
Balancing Myth and Metaphysics [r+] (On Tolkien's struggle between the "legends/mythos" conceptualization—flat world—of the Legendarium and the "theological/scientific"—round world—conceptualization)
They Shaped and Wrought, and Light They Caught (Art as it relates to light imagery in gems and elsewhere in Tolkien's work; light as a material constituent of Ea)
Quote: Tolkien Coins Eucatastrophe Is the Ending of Disney's Hunchback Eucatastrophe or Deus Ex Machina? Justice is Not Healing Tessellating a Feanorean Star
Primary and Secondary World Meta
Valie Evolution [r+] (How Nienna and Varda become more passive but more metaphysically and theologically important, and how they trade the Marian trait of listening back and forth)
The Poet of Prague (Comparing the lives of Prague photographer Joseph Sudek and Tolkien, who both produced work that investigated faerie, light, and story)
Tolkien and Final Fantasy (On what Tolkien might have meant about realist or representational visual media being unfit for Fairy-stories and whether this is why I engaged differently with earlier Final Fantasy games whose graphics were iconographic rather than realist)
The Road Goes Ever On and On (On journeying through the Fall and the perilous call of nature in decay)
How to Make a Flat World Round? [r+] (Thoughts on possible ways to present the physical change of Arda from flat to round in adaptations)
Tolkien and the Far Tree (Letter 96 and Tolkien's thoughts on the power of untold stories like Celebrimbor's)
When the Far Tree Becomes Near [r+] (How The Silmarillion reveals the machinery behind LotR)
Thuringwethil [r+] (Thoughts on the different iterations of Thuringwethil)
Christopher's Work on Maps Tolkien's Elves are Ancient Aliens Christopher and the Tear Tolkien and George MacDonald Tolkien Blames Bilbo for Plot Holes Barahir's Snake Ring [r+] Heraldry Development [r+] How Perspective Makes Aragorn a Better King [r+] Tolkien, Language, and the Construction of Reality The Cauldron of Story and Fanfiction Tolkien Wanted The Hobbit to Be An AU [r+] Owen Barfield on Julian Jaynes American Numenor My Leftist Propaganda Is Tolkien Was the "Atlantis Haunting" Sleep Apnea?
Events, Talks, and Media Meta
Art of the Manuscript (review of the Marquette Exhibition)
The Magic Ring (On my favorite piece at the Maker of Middle-earth exhibit, the original LotR title page)
The Little House of Lost Play (Adele McAllister's performance of Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva among other adaptations)
Tolkien Biopic (Thoughts on the missing Silmarillion in Tolkien)
Thoughts on Project Northmore [r+] (On why I personally have reservations about the project)
Collecting Namárië Performances [r+] Paul Kocher and The Road Goes Ever On Signum Symposium on Christopher Tolkien John Garth on the Catholic Culture Podcast Shaun Gunner on TEP Oxonmoot 2021 Post 1 Oxonmoot 2021 Post 2 Oxonmoot 2021 Post 3 Marquette's The Art of the Manuscript The Nature of Middle-earth American Numenor My Leftist Propaganda Is Tolkien
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Tom Shippey Discusses the Show Announcement of Writers Main Cast Announcement Some Thoughts on the Nudity Issue Official Summary is Released/Lindon Questions First Image With Two Trees of Valinor Title Announcement and Logo Feature Thoughts on the Celebrimbor Infodump Teaser Trailer "Sauron" Trailer No Annatar?
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