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#i hate hate hate seeing detransitioners like 'it destroyed and mutilated me'
lazylittledragon · 30 days
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hey idk which anxious pre-t babe needs to hear this but i didn't get to when i was younger so. testosterone will not make you ugly. it won't make you a horrible person. it won't 'mutilate' or ruin your body. if you want to go on testosterone then literally all that happens is it makes you really fucking hot and REALLY fucking happy.
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redfemblack · 2 years
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What absolutely gets me is some trans activists (and a few conservatives too) trying to claim that detrans people, particularly detrans women, are being “used” and “brainwashed” by gender critical feminists. Do they not see how insulting, condescending and presumptuous and patronizing, it is to detrans women to infantilize them in this way, portraying them as stupid airheads who can’t think critically and for themselves?
If you actually listen to detrans people, both women AND men alike, without ideological blinders on, it’s clear that they gravitate towards being gender critical because of hostility from the trans community and radical feminism relating to their experiences. The trans community treats detransitioners the way a cult treats apostates, and now trans activists are trying to turn around and lament on what a shame it is that the evil terves got a hold on detransitioners? Mf, practice self-awareness and self-reflection. You treat these people like their mere EXISTENCE is an attack on yours.
And then, many dysphoric/desisted/detrans people are gender nonconforming and/or same-sex attracted females, a lot of them neurodivergent (autistic) too. This is because of the way in which society (mis)treats these groups of people and makes them believe they’re wrong for simply being themselves. Plenty of deeply sexist and homophobic parents would rather have a trans son than a butch daughter (and a trans daughter over a gay son) because they hate gender nonconformity, and many neurodivergent girls especially have “problems” conforming to the social dictates of femininity, which makes them feel uncomfortable as women. Radical feminism offers these people a clear and simple explanation for their feelings, putting their own personal experiences into a broader societal context: that gender is the problem, not the solution.
And to be clear, gender critical/radical feminists have some problems too and aren’t doing a perfect job in taking care of detrans women either. Shit like using dehumanizing rhetoric to refer to them (“mutilated”, “ruined”, “life destroyed”, etc) and being kinda tokenistic with them, just waving them around as political props without actually addressing their concerns. That’s what I see, I’m not detrans so I could be missing a lot, detrans women feel free to add. But compared to the other options, it’s little wonder why many of the most vocal detransitioners align with radical feminism in some capacity. Radical feminists are the ones willing to listen to and platform them, because the existence of detransitioners is very inconvenient to trans activists (“gender identity” might not be innate, people can be mistaken/confused, etc) and their real experiences are also very inconvenient to conservatives (gender stereotypes, misogyny and homophobia motivating transition).
And of course, it should go without saying that not all detrans people align with radical feminism — I’ve personally encountered detrans gender ideologues on both ends of the spectrum, both trans allies and conservatives. But the fact that many (apparently) do isn’t the result of grooming by ebil tervs or feminazi brainwashing, try listening to what said detrans women have to say for themselves instead of speaking down to them so disrespectfully.
I want EVERYONE to actually listen to detrans people first and foremost, as opposed to demonizing them as a hysterical hoax or dismissing them as collateral damage or denigrating them as stupid pathetic little sob stories or infantilizing them as brainless pawns.
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