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buggachat · 1 year
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this is so horrible
This isn't even new for him. Gabriel did basically this same exact thing in Collector three seasons ago, faked a breakdown in his office and made Adrien believe it was all his fault. This is so consistent with Gabriel's methods of abuse/manipulation, and I already knew Gabriel did this shit, but seeing it again like this and with the dialogue really drives home how absolutely despicable and purposeful this all is.
Gabriel isn't just talking about the friends pushing food on him. He could've chose to say "why don't children respect me!" or "this suit cost so much!" or "i was so embarrassed in front of all the other parents!", but he didn't. He chose instead to talk about Adrien's conversation with him in the kitchen that morning, the one where Adrien very reasonably mentioned that he was uncomfortable being a virtual personal assistant. Adrien didn't even push it. He just mentioned that he was uncomfortable and then kind of moved on from it.... and this is what Gabriel saw as a fitting punishment for Adrien asking a question. To fill Adrien with such intense guilt and shame while shouting things like "Maybe I wasn't meant to be a father!"
Like, this is traumatizing, right? Adrien is witnessing this, and Gabriel knows that Adrien is witnessing it, in fact, Gabriel is only doing it because Adrien is witnessing it. Literally no excuse. This is just pure 100% emotional abuse, flat out, with zero way to sugarcoat it.
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Gabriel loudly pretending to get akumatized: Oh, hi Monarch! 😃 how are you? 🤔 I'm feeling mad 😠 what? you're gonna give me powers?! 😮 Oh, thank you Monarch! 😄 I will definitely get you Ladybug and Cat Noir's miraculous 😉
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thelibraryloser · 1 year
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Where do we get in the line to smash plates of food on Gabriel Agreste?
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anna-scribbles · 1 year
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the scene in illusion where gabriel nearly flew into a violent rage after getting 1 drop of oil on his pristine white cooking outfit read so exactly like a post from @gabrielagresteofficial that I choked for like 5 minutes 
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aalissy · 1 year
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Obsessed with this endcard omggg
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discomedian · 1 year
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Y’ALL I-
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cakemousse · 1 year
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what Ladybug and Chat Noir have called each other in season 5 so far:
1. Evolution
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Chaton, Mon Lapin (kitten, my Bunny)
2. Multiplication
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Mon Chatounet (my little kitten)
3. Destruction
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Mon Chaton, Chaton (my kitten, kitten)
4. Jubilation
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Mon Doux Chaton (my sweet kitten)
5. Illusion
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞:
6. Determination
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Chaton
7. Passion
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Mon Chaton
8. Reunion
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞:
9. Exaltation
🐈‍⬛: My Lady 🐞: Chaton, M. Pas un cheveu qui dépasse, M. S’accroche à son secret, M. Le partenaire dont tout le monde rêve, Bisou-bisou miaou-miaou (kitten, Mr Not-A-Hair-Out-Of-Place, Mr Clinging-To-His-Secret, Mr The-Partner-Everybody-Dreams-Of, Kiss-kiss meow-meow)
thank you @2manyfandoms2count for the translation in ep 9
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used-tv · 1 year
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redemption isn’t enough anymore I need to kill gabriel agreste myself
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aguinhaac · 11 months
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Ugh I ready gotta do this huh? Everyone says that derision is the "worst episode of miraculous" but I disagree, it is illusion
Well guess It's time, today I will be revealing The fifth episode of miraculous season 5 illusion
Pls god save me
We start of the episode as some journalists are interviewing citizens to find out popular opinion about their two idiotic heroes. Really, I think it would be a neat idea, show how the citizens of Paris feel about ladybug and chat noir, it could lead to some interesting drama of Marinette having to deal with the guilt of losing almost every single miraculous AND a lot of people hating on ladybug, making her sick, but then Alya could help her, maybe even su-han. Her school friends could help and it wouldn’t need to reveal, if a friend of yours is feeling bad you don’t need to know what happen to comfort, they. Chat noir could help too giving a bit more of a reason why ladybub fell in love with him, you gotta admit, the square flip was out of nowhere, and with this all plus the people that still believe in her, Marinette would slowly get better. I personally think that it would be some good drama. BUT THIS HAS THE WORD "GOOD" SO IT IS ALREADY DISCARDED AND INSTEAD MAKING ONLY THE ASSHOLES LIKE BOB ROTH AND CHLOE SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT LADYBUG BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE "BAD GUYS" THEIR POINT IS TOTALLY UNVALUED BECAUSE THEY ARE EVIL WHILE THE "GOOD GUYS" LIKE THAT PIGEON MAN AND MR DAMOSHIT ARE THE RIGHT ONES BECAUSE “oH LoOk aT tHeM tHeY aRe sO lIkeBlE sO tHeY aRe PrObBaLy RIgHt” THE WRITTERS ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE THAT LADYBUG WAS NOT AN IDIOT WHICH IS A BIG FAT LIE, AND INSTEAD OF GIVING SOME INTERESTING DRAMA THEY JUST TRY MAKE US EAT THAT EVERYONE IN PARIS BELIVES THAT A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL IS WORTHY ALL THE TRUST IN THE WORLD, BECAUSE WE CAN’T HAVE GOOD THIS IN THIS GOD FOR SAKE SHOW. Not even two minutes in… AND I AM ALREADY PISSED
Chloe: ladybug? She’s turned paris over to supervillains, that would never have happened with queen bee
We know my queen, I am so sorry that the writers took your crown and tried to make you look like a butthole, and yet you still there shining, thank you my queen, thank you for being the only one in this show that still have a brain.
We cut off to the program presenters talking more about everything, we have Nadja that I learned the name but I still do not give a shit about, the banana man, alec, and bob roth
Nadja the reporter: And we are back on the set of leading questions on its answers, with our experts You’ve heard the people of Paris, monarch is more powerful than ever, and ladybug can’t seem to regain the miraculous from him, so the question on everybody’s mind is, are ladybug and chat noir the heroes we need?
Alec: the midia has paralyzed us with fear but what we need to defeat monarch is more love and kindness, people need to follow their dreams and have more hope, that way we wouldn’t be feeling these negative emotions, come with me now everyone just love one another-
Bob roth: if you ask me there’s too much talk about ladybug and chat noir and not enough talking about my son’s- I mean that wonderful indie artist XY new album!
Nadja: thank you for that bob, and you mister banana? What’s your take in all of this?
Banana man: stay peachy~
Nadja: thank you we’ll be right back after this message.
Monarch, please akumatize this person and make her beat up everyone in this studio, she deserves it after all this humiliation
Ok first of, experts in what? Bob roth is an expert in music, the banana is an expert in dad jokes and alec is an expert in show tv shows, COULDN’T YOU BRING SOME MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE? Like idk AN POLICE OFFICER? MAYBE A POLITICAL? OR MAYBE JUST MAYBE ANOTHER SUPER HERO BECAUSE THE AROUND THE WORLD SPECIAL PROVED THAT THERE’S MORE OF THEM? THE HELL? WRITERS THIS TYPE OF THING WAS SUPOSSED TO BE A SERIOUS SCENE, BUT INSTEAD YOU MAKE THE WORST JOKES EVER? IF YOU WANT YOUR SHOW TO BE SERIOUS DON’T MAKE EVERYTING BE A JOKE. YOU CAN PUT A COMIC RELIEF SO IT DON’T BECAME A BATMAN, BUT WHEB ALL THE CHARACTERS ARE THE COMIC RELIEF, IT DOES NOT WORK!!!
And then they play the… alliance ad….
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I shall not make this joke again, I shall not, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Kill me, pls
The scene cuts (thank God) to Adrien’s room where Plagg in playing with the alliance, making AA (Adrian alliance) say facts about cheese
Adrien of course gets uncomfortable with the thought that there’re right now a lot of creepy fans being able to make AA say anything they want or make him necked, the HELL was you thinking Gabriel? So, Adrien goes to talk to his dad and have a surprise he was making him some breakfast, and that he was going to the parent meeting in school.
They talk about how they've grown apart since Emelie’s death. No man you’ve grown apart since you became a terrorist. And we have a scene where a little drop of pancake butter falls on his Richard sphinx cosplay shirt and he goes ape shit, but gabe stops being mad and Adrien gets to the point.
Adrien: dad I’m not really comfortable with having my face in all this rings, that’s actually why I didn’t wanted be a model anymore, to avoid that, do you understand?
Gabriel: of course, I understand my son, but that’s the point it is just an image its not you. And since this image frees you from your obligations, we the agrestes are able to spend more time together, but if you rather everything went back to the way it was before just say the word
Adrien: you’re probably right,
Gabriel: you’ll see my son; alliance will bring us closer.
Ugh this is other thing I hate about this show, it can’t decide if they want Gabriel to be pure evil or sympathetic. Sometimes we see Gabriel caring about his son (gorizilla, queen wasp) and other he doesn’t give a shit about Adrien (chat blanc, oblivion, ephemeral, etc.…) and I hate this so much, but I liked that they made Gabriel being an passive aggressive toxic dad instead of just a butthole to Adrien all the time, makes more sense that why Adrien don’t know his dad is toxic, toxic relationships normally aren’t just the person being an asshole all the time, heh bet it won’t last longer because it isn’t miraculous if something utterly stupid happen every 5 seconds
We cut the scene to marinette and alya talking on the cell phone while walking to school with the split screen showing off what they're doing, and then…. They start talking about rena rouge and the lost miraculous……. TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE A SECRET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET IS A GREAT IDEA, HELL YOU
They talk about how monarch is able to get the jewels back in the last second and alya suggests that maybe he is using the dog miraculous to fetch the miraculous back, which would be a better idea than HE BEEING ABLE TO BREAK A MIRACULOU, AND EVEN IF IT’S BROKEN USE THE POWERS AND WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE THE DOG MIRACULOUS SOMETHING TO DO INSTEAD OF BEEING A STUPID SUPPORT MIRACULOUS JUST LIKE THE SNAKE AND THE FOX. Who am I kidding? The dog will never stop being a support miraculous.
Marinette and Alya arrive at school and Nino tell the group (Alya, Adrien, Marinette) he is going to form a resistance to help ladybub and chat noar without powers. Nino gets the name comrade ketchup and Adrien comrade mayo. The scene cuts to the group in the cafeteria, they get some food, Adrien flirts with Marinette,
Alya: hey, did I just hear Adrien say he wanted to spend more time with you? Woah that awesome!
Marinette: No, it’s not, whenever I’m near Adrien I can’t concentrate what if I lose my miraculous because I stop focusing on superhero stuff?
Alya: don’t worry, I’ll keep you focused
FUCK U ALYA, COULD YOU STOP BEEING AN HYPOCRITE FOR 2 MINUTES?????
Nino then pretend that they are doing some secret meeting which…
Nino: this lunch is just a cover comrade mayo
Alya: comrade mayo?
Nino: from now one you’ll calm me comrade ketchup, I summoned you to this secret meeting because-
Alya: you didn’t summon us to anything Nino
Nino: of course, I did otherwise I wouldn’t be a secret comrade hotel
Breath… breath aguinha… Chloe comes in but it’s just another way to the writers demonanize her and we go back to the group talking and….
Alya: what’s up with the sauces?
Nino: what’s up is ladybug and chat noir don’t have us to help them anymore
Alya: uhh, what do you mean us?
Nino: well, us, you rena rouge me carapace
Alya hits him because he deserved*
Nino: aught, what’s the big deal? We can tell Marinette and Adrien we used to be superheroes
Nino: it’s not like we have any miraculous that could steal from us, the only ones who need to protect their secret identities are ladybug and chat noir. And anyways I already told Adrien about carapace
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FUCK OFF NINO, YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING??? OK IF ALL THE MIRACULOUS WERE GONE FOREVER WOULD MAKE SENSE HE REVEALED, BUT WHAT IF LADYBUG ONE DAY BE ABLE TO GET THE MIRACULOUS???? I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT TRUSTED HER, AND WHY THE HECK DID YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE CAFETERIA? THIS WHOLE SCENE DON’T MAKE SENCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lila that I don’t care about but she is a big part of the episode according to the writers comes in and asks to sit down with them, which Marinette says no
Nino: technically we are in the middle of a meeting
SHUT UP NINO
Lila posts a picture of Adrien in the cafeteria, while that Nino explain the plan to the group using yogurt metaphors, the plan it to cause an akumatization and record it
Adrien: isn’t that cruel?
Alya: totally, make someone suffer just to discover monarch’s technique? Super cruel.
Nino: no it’s not, you forgot ladybug always fixes everything in the end with her magical ladybugs
Nino, what the actual hell? Make someone suffer in the name of public good? WHAT IF IT DIDN’T GO RIGHT? WOULD HE JUST DO IT AGAIN UNTIL THEY CATCH SOMETHING?? THIS IS IMORRAL, UNETICAL, AND I BET FITS AS A CRIME. HE IS BASICALLY DOING WHAT CHAT NOIR AND MARINETTE DID BUT WORST, well chat noir already tried to kill so, HE IS BASICALLY DOING WHAT MARINETTE DID, ARE WE SUPOSSED TO ROOT FOR SOMEONE TRYING TO MAKE ANOTHER PERSON SO SAD THAT SHE WOULD AGREE TO GIVE FULL CONTROL OF HER TO A GOD DAMMIT TERORIST? AND THE PHRASE “you forgot ladybug always fixes everything in the end with her magical ladybugs “THE PERSON WILL STILL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE SHE GETS AKUMATIZED, YOUR ARE BASICALLY DOING SOMETHING MONARCH WOULD DO, FUCK OFFF.
A bunch of Adrien stans go in the cafeteria look for him, but they are able to run away and they go to the same basement we see in “rocketear” to talk more about their plans.
And they decide that the person they would akumatize would be…. Gabriel….
THE HELL? IT IS YOUR BEST FRIEND DAD, WHEN HE WAS FINALLY BEEING NICE AND GIVED SOME FREEDOM TO HIS SON, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ALREADY CROSSED MY LINE, YOUR NAME WILL NOT BE NINO ANYMORE, BY NOW YOU WILL BE STUPIDINO BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE, A STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
Stupidino tells Adrien that probably his dad doesn’t care about him and was just doing this for marketing, what a good friend!
Alya: seriously thought, ladybug would never approve this plan. Your with me in this one right Marinette?
Marinette: well, ugh, if it could help defeat monarch, maybe ladybug would agree! After all she can fix everything afterwards
W H A T ? WRITTERS? WHAT IS THIS? WASEN’T LADYBUG/MARINETTE EXTREMALY CAREFULL ABOUT SUPERHERO STUFF? THE HECK? IT IS OBVIOUS IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK, SHE SHOULD KNOW THAT MIRACULOUS DO NOT WORK LIKE THIS, SHE IS THE FREAKING GUARDIAN. WHAT THE HELL, DOES SHE JUST WANT TO TORTURE GABRIEL OR SOMETHING? WASN'T MARINETTE SUPPOSED TO BE A HERO? SHE IS ACTING LIKE MONARCH.
Lila tells Gabriel about their stupid plan, and the parenting meeting begin, Marinette comes In saying she forget her organizatior holding A GOD DAMMIT PIZZA, WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, she makes a little scene and drops the pizza on Gabriel’s clothes
Wait… is this pineapple?
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Adrien and Alya also drop some food in Gabriel clothes, and I'm not going to narrate this part, it's just cringe that’s all. Gabriel takes Adrien home and says that he will now be homeschooled again. Really this is the only episode in this season alya is likable, BECAUSE DIFERENTLY OF EVERYONE SHE USES HER BRAIN
Alya: I told you this plan was bad; all we’ve achieved was getting rid of your “BFF”, at best he is the one who is Gona get akumatized
Gabriel, please do what she said, akumatize Adrien, AND MAKE HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THAT STUPID MORON,
They go apologize with Gabriel, while that Gabriel as monarch uses illusion to create an illusion of himself, the ilugabriel ( illusion of Gabriel) starts to regret not being a good father and gets akumatized, so then it was like REALLY useless, because it was an illusion of an akuma, THEY DIDN’T EVEN COULD LEARN ANYTHING FROM IT.
Adrien and Marinette transform and go fight the ilucollector (illusion of collector, not the toh one) and the fight scene is really good, the ilucollector is able to use his tablet like a boomerang, both the heroes and the villain try as much to not be touched, pretty cool. Ilucollector runs away. While that, Monarch then fuses with the real horse miraculous, the bee, the mouse, and the rooster miraculous. Monarch uses voyage to go to the sewers, activates venon, use multitude and became invisible with the rooster, wow man he is really powerful. Grab your popcorn everyone, today we will see ladybub’s plot armor in action. Laybub uses her lucky charm and gain a bag full of shredded cheese. Monarch again uses the voyage to make the heroes fall in the sewers. And monarch paralyzes chat, dude wouldn’t it be better paralyzing ladybug first? You never captured her but captured chat a billion times. Ladybub finds out that there is invisible mini monarch’s walking around and throw the grated cheese in the mini monarch’s making some rats that where there run after them. Monarch then reunites. With ilucollector he makes some drama, gets deakumatized and jump off in the sewer water.
Ladybug: its not too late, anyone can change.
Except Chloe, chole is a brat and will always be a brat. Right Astruc?????
Ladybug transforms in aqua bug without eating any magical macaron, you know what I don’t care. this has already 6 pages, and my pc do NOT withstand something longer than that, lets just get this over with.
Nino finds out that when monarch gives or removes a power a lightning bowl appears, which as I said its not true because that was an iluakuma (illusion of akuma) Alya gives stupidino a hug and says sorry? What? No man you really shouldn’t say sorry to him. The writers are the ones who needed to apologize for giving you such a stupid boyfriend.
Stupidino explains everything to Gabriel and apologizes, and ladybug… says what they did was very risky and… they should not do it again…..
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Gabriel allows Adrien to go to school again and we find out that the whole class is now in the resistance, this feels like when feminists say “we fight in name of gender equality" then some person say "wow cool I'm going to join" without knowing what they were getting into XD
And we find out that Lila is also a part of the resistance.
Alya: everyone wants to help ladybug Marinette.
WHAT??? HOW THE FUCK DO YOU STILL TRUST LILA??
AFTER LYING IN YOUT BLOG, ALMOST GETTING YOUR BFF KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL. AFTER KNOWING THAT SHE TRAITED LADYBUG MULTIPLE TIMES (like in oni-chan) HOW THE FUCK DO YOU STILL BELIVE IN HER. Ok Alya, I will give you one last chance because you are my third favorite secondary hero, but if you screw up ONE MORE TIME, you will be called fucklya.
And this is where the episode ends, wow I didn’t saw that much bullshit in a while now, stupidino is a psychopath and Marinette just agrees with him. I would say I ship those two but Marinette is terrible and Adrien is terrible, they deserve each other. Alya was AWSOME in this episode, except for the end.. and the beggining.... But still ok, The fight scene was good but it didn’t last much. I like the idea of people helping the heroes without powers, but the execution is just like everything in this show, bullshit
I will give this episode a 2.2/10. Life is misery.
That’s all I have to say, thank you for seeing, see you in the next post
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zacharyblank · 1 year
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I truly honestly LOVE the fact that Gabriel is trying SO HARD to at least look like a decent parent and yet the only thing he can think to do is flip flapjacks in the kitchen.
Like he just sat down and thought to himself "Is this what good parents do? Feed their children pancakes for every meal? Kids love carbohydrates, right?"
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buggachat · 1 year
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I????????????
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I for one cannot wait for Gabriel to find out Ladybug herself shoved a whole pizza onto him
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zaaaras · 1 year
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that illusion scene
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thelibraryloser · 1 year
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So you're saying... Adrien really doesn't like that people can use a ring to control him...
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friendfromdsmp · 1 year
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Wait so Illusion spoilers but did Nino just admit to Alya and Marinette that he previously revealed his identity as Carapace to Adrien, as well as obviously revealing his AND Alya’s identities to Marinette, but we never see any consequences to this? Just Alya being annoyed for a couple of lines and then that’s it? Even though her identity was just revealed to Adrien and Nino also outed her to Marinette without realising she already knew?
And Nino specifically said that he told Adrien that he’s Carapace, but he never mentioned the fact that he revealed Alya to him a good while ago. You can’t tell me he didn’t keep that a secret from her intentionally. It’s now down to Adrien to mention it even in passing, but that’s not going to happen due to how the issues in this show are structured, so Nino escapes with all this with hardly even a slap on the wrist. Not even a Ladybug confrontation
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aalissy · 1 year
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Idk how I feel about this… bc at the same time I’m glad Adrien’s father is showing SOME care for him but at the same time I know it’s all a lie bc he’s Monarch. I just want Adrien to have good parental figures 🥹. Guess I need to wait for him to marry Marinette and have the Dupain-Chengs become his family 🤭🤪
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