#infinity train theory

[dalfield]

was talking about music with yellow and thought of something interesting

so this on simon's face is a sine wave. it's the symbol of the apex, and it's also the wavetype that was on amelia's conductor suit thingy.

there are multiple types of waves in audio, here's the most common:

sine, square, triangle, and sawtooth. sine waves are known as the "natural wave" in part because natural sounds are made from sine waves. square, triangle, and sawtooth waves don't occur in nature, from what i understand. i think this can be connected to the apex's worldview. the apex prioritize 'natural' (i.e. not made by the train) beings above all else.

moreover, simon's motif in the book 3 soundtrack is an electric guitar. while acoustic guitars produce sound in a sine wave, electric guitars are often distorted in unnatural ways, for example, into becoming a square wave.

i think there's some interesting symbolism here. simon starts off as a "natural" kid, but grew obsessed with power and influence on the train. as he did, his number rose to the point that he was unnatural. even if he wanted to get off the train, it would take years and years for him to do so, making him almost like a denizen. it distorted his humanity in the view of the train, much like an amplifier distorting a sine wave.

i also think there's some symbolism in the fact that grace was represented by the electric guitar as well in the first half of the season, but nearing the end her motif changes to vox synths. not only is she separating herself from simon and regaining her own sense of identity, but she goes from being represented by a "natural" (acoustic) instrument mimicking an artificial (electric) one to an artificial (electric) instrument mimicking an acoustic one. i think there's a sense of irony in all of this.

#infinity train #infinity train book 3 #simon laurent #grace monroe #infinity train theory #infinity train analysis

[ylsterman]

About the "human" technology on the Train

When I see theories that say that the train is a human invention because there is "human technology" I think they forget a point that I would like to mention. Owen confirmed that the train has been around for many years (I seem to remember), its appearance (at least in The Westland) has always been the same, I highly doubt it can change.

I don't think it was time travel stuff because we haven't been presented with anything similar in the show and we know that time passes the same in both dimensions.

So what if it's the other way around? For example, tapes. They could say that they are VHS tapes and that a human created them for the train, but what if it was the other way around? I mean, what if a human, based on the things he saw on the train, after leaving recreates them in the real world. So, in the world of the show, the creator of the VHS saw how they worked on the train and after leaving he said "hey, I should try to recreate that here."

#ylsterman's theory #infinity train #infinity train theory

[unluckyslotmachine]

Ok I don’t know if this will make complete sense because I only just thought of it but I was watching infinity train and I have a theory about Simons backstory. I think that Simon might have been on the train because he was grieving a parent/loved one that maybe died in the military and they couldn’t find the body. In the campfire episode Simon says that all funerals are is “annoying neighbors bringing casseroles” and as the show progresses Simon expresses more and more of his feelings through anger. He is also obsessed with the military and had a toy soldier when he first went on the train. So I think the point of him being on the train was to overcome his grief and then the Cat left him and he met Grace and things obviously went down hill from there. I’m not saying this to be more sympathetic towards Simon or justify his actions, I just thought this would be interesting and add depth to her character. 

#infinity train #simon laurent #grace monroe #hazel infinity train #Amelia infinity train #the cat #one-one #tulip infinity train #simon infinity train #grace infinity train #lake infinity train #jesse cosay #infinity train theory

[muppet-on-a-spit]

Anyway so I believe the train is infinite because whenever a passenger gets off the train, a car is created in their honor/inspired by them and their journey, meaning the train technically has a first and last car at any point in time, but it’s growing and changing all the time (just like the passengers it picks up 😳)

#i've also been thinking about how many passengers are on the train at any given time but i'm less certain about that #all ik is that the passengers rarely run into each other #infinity train #gray speaks #infinity train theory

[plantsucc]

there's probably gonna be a look back on all the protagonists of Infinity Train at the end. and we will get to see Ryan and Min-Gi in present day, in their 50s, playing a show. and they'll casually have wedding rings. but it will never actually be confirmed whether they're married to each other

#or some offscreen spouses #infinity train #infinity pain #rymin #min-gi park #ryan akagi #im holding out hope for more seasons. eventually #because book 4 ended with 'up to interpretation' so the show likely will too #we will still rejoice and hype though because it SHOULD be canon :''''''3 #infinity train theory

[sophiathetrainwreck]

god i wished i lived in the timeline where companies respected animation

#i hate the multiverse theory because that means there’s a version of me living her best life with all her cartoons still existing #watching the new owl house episode just makes me think of what we could’ve had #WE COULD’VE HAD A HUNTLOW CENTRIC EPISODE #rip to the owl house and all the other good animated shows that were either canceled too soon or snapped out of existence #tagging a shit ton of shoes that deserved better o7 #the owl house #toh #rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rise of the tmnt #infinity train #inside job #close enough #final space #ducktales #dead end netflix #dead end paranormal park #animation #cartoon #cartoons

[jesse-cosay]

So we've all seen the storyboards where Lake speaks French.

Now I got something to add because-

Lake specifies that Tulip does not know French despite taking the class intentionally. (Usually there are options when you choose languages, my school only offered Spanish.)

So Tulip chose a class that she retained nothing from. Why take French if it was harder than the alternatives? (Because it was.) Why take a language elective at all if it doesn't interest you? If it will only tank your grades?

Conclusion: Tulip only took the French class for Natalie. Possibly it was the only class they shared, or just another class she could have with her.

And if Lake knew that Tulip had no interest in learning French, but had full access to picking up a hobby/ability that Tulip didn't have? Of course they would take it!

It wasn't just about being bored, but also a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be someone else.

#infinity train #lake infinity train #infinity train book 2 #tulip olsen #Yellow's theories #Infinity train meta #Yellow's meta #Infinity train book two #Infinity train lake #storyboards #still thinking abt these sorry guys i love yooouuu

[silyabeeodess]

Been listening to remixes of "Runaway" and kept thinking about this.

"Well, I've patched up my relationship with my parents, but now I get constant nightmares from where Atticus turned into a monster and tried to kill me. Amongst everything else that tried to kill me."

#i love the fan theory that the train often gives people a second chance at life #by picking them up in situations where they most likely would have died #but i also wonder how many issues the train caused that were worse than whatever some people came onboard with #does the train come back to help them heal from those too? #infinity train #memes

[canadiancryptid]

One of my favorite things to think about when it comes to modern fantasy type stories is wonder how the supernatural elements may have influenced myths, legends or aspects of history. In a world that seems just like ours, there are so many little butterfly effects that things like magic or mysterious tech could have caused.

Infinity Train has a bunch of these. The Train picking people up would have definitely influenced history, but I like to think about how the existance of the Mirror World would have influenced things like the existance of vampire stories.

As seen with Tulip at the end if Book 1, if a Reflection ever left their post, their Prime would stop showing up in mirrors. If just a few reflections started to go rogue in the right time period, and people notice thier absence, coming to conclusions based on religious stuff and superstition, then all of a sudden you've got people being wrongfully accused of being a vampire. Over time, stories spread, and a case of a handfull of runaway reflections leaves the common story of vampires not appearing in mirrors.

A similar situation could apply to ghost stories. A Reflection runs off after their Prime dies, before the Flecs can take them to have their memories wiped and get assigned to a new Prime. Having grown attached to the family and friends their Prime left behind, they hang around for a while, watching from afar. Someone catches a glimpse of something that looks like someone who died... boom, ghost story.

Reflection Enforcement, of course, would use this sort of thing happening as an excuse to tighten their grip and use more force to keep any rebellious reflections in line. Eventually, nobody in the Mirror World still remembers a time when the Flecs didn't just jump to sanding at the first offense.

How often do mirrors seem to come up with in stories in relation to souls and spirits? How often do mirrors get used as a way to see into or travel to other worlds? How many stories in this alternate world were directly tied to reflections trying to do the same thing Lake did?

Really fun worldbuilding stuff to think about, and that's just a small part of the series. How did the Train itself change history? What events played out differently? Did it change things for the better? Or did it just make them a different kind of bad?

#infinity train #cryptid says stuff #if you really wanna think about it you could say the mirror world DOES exist in our universe and that's exactly how it happened for us too #infinity train mirror world #I have SO many thoughts about the implications of the mirror world that come back into my head every few months I cannot escape it #and just about how reflections work in general because MIRROR ONE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DRINK HIS PRIME DOESN'T HAVE A MOUTH #I have so many theories about it and the train in general gonna be hyperfixating on that again for a bit apparently #I could probably do a whole rant on just the implications of reflections needing to have their memories wiped when their prime dies #might have done so already but I don't think I ever posted it

[linkspooky]

Rengoku and Uzui

The enertainment district arc follows immediately after the Mugen Train arc, with the introduction of another Hashira to mentor Tanjiro and friends immediately after the tragic death of Rengoku. Uzui is presented at first as the complete opposite of noble, selfless to a fault big brother Rengoku as he’s presented as being much more individualistic and obsessed with flashy things. However, if you compare and contrast them they have much more common than it might seem at first, and Uzui turns out to be just what Tanjiro needs after the loss at the end of the Infinity Arc. More underneath the cut. 

1. Two Different Kinds of Mentors

The first comparison drawn between the two of them is that their introductions to the sense squad (Tanjiro, Nezuko, Inosuke, and Zenitsu otherwise known as THE SENSE SQUAD because that’s what I like to call them)  are complete opposites of one another. Rengoku is immediately a model Hashira, not only is he incredibly helpful to them and is introduced defeating a demon easily on the train, he’s also totally willing to take in Tanjiro and the rest as a mentor.

Tengen on the other hand, is introduced literally trying to kidnap the girls at the butterfly estate for a mission. The contrast is immediatelyapparent, Uzui is presented to us as willful and arrogant. Even their chosen disciplines are opposites, Rengoku is a swordsman, and Uzui is a ninja. Rengoku faces his opponents head on, Uzui sneaks around and uses deception. Uzui is also, totally uninterested in Tanjiro and the others at first. 

Unlike Rengoku who immediately steps into the role of mentor, Uzui isn’t really interested in mentoring anyone, he’s not even looking to be accomodating of the fact that Kanao might have different needs and require a more tender hand than Tengen’s forceful one. Rengoku’s number one priority is protecting the people around him, while Uzui seems too focused on the mission. 

Uzui at the beginning almost chafes at the idea of trying to work with these kids. If Rengoku is selfilessness taken to an extreme, on first brush Uzui seems to be made up of nothing but selfishness and egotism. Which shows in his complete lack of cooeprativeness with Tanjiro and the others, his controlling nature, oh and also the fact that he declares himself a god. You know, like they do. 

Even the presentation of the characters is in reverse of one another. Rengoku is seemingly perfect, the model Hashira, he devotes himself entirely to slaying demons and protecting others. His flaws are hidden underneath the surface. Uzui is so obviously flawed. If the kidnapping attempt didn’t clue you in on that. Rengoku doesn’t think too highly of himself despite all of his talent. Uzui looks down on other people as the god of flashiness. Rengoku works with the kids, and Uzui bosses them all around, and the fact that he was willing to kidnap Aoi and force her into the mission leaves a bad impression on his qualities as a mentor. 

2. Ninjas are masters of Deception

The first clue that Rengoku is more than he seems however, is when we learn why Uzui is in such a hurry to complete the mission in the enertainment district. His three wives are already undercover and he’s completely lost contact with them. Though he doesn’t show it in front of the kids necessarily or voice his worries, his actions of completely strongarming and bulldozing everyone begins to make sense.

He also exrpresses genuine concern for Zenitsu when he disappears, and regret for bringing them along on the mission and putting them directly into danger. Uzui isn’t harsh to the sense squad because he’s cruel and uncaring, but because he understands the danger of the mission and is trying to bring them up to his standards. 

Underneath his loud and flashy behavior on the outside, Uzui is thoughtful and self aware of the dangers present in their lives, and also the consequences for his actions. He starts the arc in a rush, and selfish, but he has a genuine moment of self reflection where he acknowledges his selfishness when he realizes how it’s hurt others. He even tries to take responsiblity for using the Sense Squad the way he has by shouldering everything by himself from now on. Tanjiro believes it’s because he doesn’t trust them but it’s actually the opposite, it’s Uzui showing his selflessness in his own way. 

Uzui is still a prideful and self-centered peron, but those flaws aren’t all he is as a person, and there’s also a positive side to his attitude, he has something positive to teach Tanjiro. 

There’s no shame in this, to survive means victory. Remember what Tanjiro has immediately been through. Not only did he put Rengoku on a pedestal for his selflessness and willingness to help others, he also has survivor’s guilt for the fact that Rengoku sacrificed himself to take down a demon, and not only did it not work,b ut Tanrjio was able to do nothing other than survive at that moment. 

Rengoku even tries to verbalize to Tanjiro that his death isn’t Tanjiro’s fault,t hat the leaders and older members are supposed to protect the younger ones. However that’s not what Tanjiro internalizes. Remember, Tanjiro not only has survivor’s guilt he has a double dose of it, not only wasn’t he able to stop the death of Rengoku, he also wasn’t even there when the rest of his family was picked off by demons, and Nezuko was turned. Tanjiro’s survivor’s guilt tells him these things are his fault, and invites him to feel he should have died alongside him. Tanjiro continually struggles on his own feelings of helplessness, that these situations are somehow his fault, and if he were stronger they wouldn’t happen. 

Tanjiro even assumes afterwards in this scene that Uzui wanting to continue the mission alone from now on must be Uzui looking down on them or thinking of them as useless, not, genuine concern for their safety. However, Uzui ultiamtely believes the same thing that Rengoku does. There’s no shame in Tanjiro’s survival. Tanjiro living another day is a win in it’s own right. 

If Tanjiro internalized the wrong lesson at the end of the Rengoku arc, it’s Uzui’s mentorship that allows Tanjiro to realize that there’s value in his survival to continue to struggle along another day.

Uzui is a character who stresses over and over again that there’s value in everyone else around him living, that they should prioritize their life voer the mission. This even reflects on his background, he started out as a shinobi in a shinobi family, completely unafraid to die to complete an objective, watching all of the rest of his siblings die for the mission as well. 

We have an arc of self-sacrfice, and the immediate follow up emphasizes again and again, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to live and continue living. Rengoku’s flaw is that he burnt out too fast. He was too selfless. The result of his selfless sacrifice is yes, he proected the kids who were under his responsbility, but he also died right in front of them and they suffered from his death. That’s always the dark side to self-sacrifice, it’s never a completely positive actions, especially to the people you leave behind. 

Uzui is selfish, and he tries to encourage others to be selfish because he wants them to take care of themselves. It’s the positive aspect of selfishness. You can still help others, while prioritizing yourself and taking care of yourself.  Uzui is basically telling Tanjiro’s survival guilt as loudly as possible to shut up. 

Most of all, Uzui emphasizes you don’t have to be perfect, or even completely selfless to keep on living. Uzui’s background is as a ruthless ninja. He’s not someone bold and kind like Rengoku. He even thinks that he can never be like Rengoku. 

Yet, Uzui is also someone who survived all of that. He lived on carrying all his sins he committed being born into a ninja family, and is carrying them every day of his life. It’s because Uzui lived and survive for so long that Uzui was able to also grow into a more selfless individual, who is no longer taking others lives, but protecting them. Uzui is like Tanjiro in a way, a survivor who is struggling with his inner weakness. 

By the end of thearc Tanjiro has learned something important from him, that no matter how much he feels he should have died alongside his family, he should have died alongside Rengoku, that both times he should hafe done more, there’s no value to him dying at those moments. This is a lesson he carries with him for the rest of the series, and because of that he’s even able to give helpful cousnel to Giyuu who struggles with the same survivor’s guilt. The same Giyuu who at the beginning of the series lectured Tanjiro that it’s his fault Nezuko was taken by demons, that if he continues to be weak then what happens to him from now on it was also his fault. 

He’s able to counsel Giyuu, because it wasn’t wrong of him to live while Sabito died. Sabito sacrificed his life for Giyuu because he cared for him. He shouldn’t have to feel shame that he continued on living, because not only was that life a gift, Sabito wanted Giyu to survive. 

If there’s worth is sacrificing yourself, and fighting selflessly for the sake of others. There is also worth in protecting yourself, and living on fight another day. The compare and contrast between Uzui and Rengoku is something that shows us this nuance, that selflessness isn’t always a good thing, that selfishness isn’t always a bad thing. People are selfish, people are selfless, but most of all they are just struggling along trying to live in this world. 

#kny meta #kimetsu no yaiba meta #kimetsu no yaiba theory #enertainment district arc #mugen train #infinity train #uzui tengen #tanjiro kamado #rengoku senjuro

[serpuntine]

My favorite personal CN headcanon is that the deer from s3 e15 of Adventure Time is Alan Dracula from s2 of Infinity Train and there isn’t a thing anyone can say to convince me I’m wrong

#cartoon network #adventure time #infinity train #cartoons #headcanon #adventure time headcanon #infinity train headcanon #alan dracula #Cartoon Network headcanon #Cartoon Network universe #crossover #cartoon crossover #Cartoon Network crossover #I treat this theory as canon at this point #I don’t even know exactly how it would work but I’ve staked this as part of my identity at this point so I’ll die on this hill #pendleton ward #Owen Dennis #infinity train season 2 #adventure time season 3

[killlerfang1]

Yes both times were about amphibia, no I am not okay

#amphibia #the episodes are 'true colors' and 'the hardest thing' if your wondering #it might be my bad memory but i can't remember a show making me feel this sort of way #like obviously ive felt dread and fear but never a physical response like this #steven universe and infinity train come VERY close though #i think my reaction is further exacerbated by the fact that ive been following and watching the show since it was announced in 2018 #I've still havent seen the episode yet and but i dont think anything too bad will happen #like as much as i love angsty theories and headcanons i doubt they'll hurt our characters that much in the last episode #i do think its gonna have a bittersweet ending though #my post

[ssadumba55]

#amphibia imagine #infinity train imagine #dark crystal imagine #super mario bros imagine #muppets imagine #Star Wars imagine #big bang theory imagine #young sheldon imagine #glitch techs imagine

[autistic-beshelar]

hm. i would die for hazel and tuba

#also current theory hazel is one of the kids that lake messed with in the memory place? wasn't there a tape that got torn out? #kokiri watches infinity train

[muppet-on-a-spit]

Oml I’m just realizing that everyone who we’ve seen get on the train not only did so at an emotional low when they were running from their feelings, but also when they had absolutely no support system to help them through it. Tulip was going through a rough patch with her parents, and her best friend didn’t understand. Jesse’s friends SUCK and he just messed things up with his brother. Grace clearly didn’t have real friends, and her parents didn’t listen to her. Ryan and Min-Gi only had each other, and they couldn’t do much for each other at the time. Now, Amelia did seem to have people who cared about her, but she was so focused on losing her husband, that she felt all alone in that moment, which is really what the train is judging.

What I’m wondering now is if that is some sort of a prerequisite for the train to appear to you, or if it affects would-be passengers’ decision to get on? Because sure, none of them knew that they’d be getting onto a therapy train, but maybe jumping into a vortex or hopping onto a questionable train feels like more of a feasible option. Now, I still don’t think it’s okay or normal or truly helpful to take people out of their lives to force them to confront their inner demons, but picking up people who feel alone is maybe more understandable.

#infinity train #gray speaks #infinity train theory #yeah sure that's what this is #anyway. i was writing fic idk what i'm doing here

[bluekat12345]

Infinity Train and Jumanji similarities

Not sure if anyone will agree (or care), but for anyone whose seen Infinity Train and Jumanji, the train itself and the game itself have similarities I wanted to share:

They both have the power to take people away from their home world and place them in a new world full of magic, mystery, and danger.

In those worlds, there are beings that live there and call those worlds home (Denizens in Infinity Train and Van Pelt and Nigel in the Jumanji films)

Things and beings in those worlds try to kill them, even children are not safe from the dangers in those worlds.

The people we've seen participate have flaws and issues that they grow out of and overcome as they go on their adventure.

The way for the people to survive and get out is to follow and play by the rules. Not doing so results in punishments. (Infinity Train: Character's hand number increases and most likely have the stay on the train longer. Jumanji: When Peter tried to cheat, his token went back, and he started turning into a monkey.)

That's why, based on these similarities, I theorize that while Jumanji puts the players in dangerous situations, its intent isn't out of malice, but similar to the Infinity Train, it seeks out certain people to play the game in order to help them grow and become better. Its methods are crazy, but no worse than the Infinity Train.

That's my thought anyway.

#Jumanji #Infinity Train #Theory #things I noticed #Personal Thoughts