#kiridai analysis

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Kiridai vs Type of Girl They Like

With more explanation. All just my opinions, and headcanons (Not the most in depth analysis because they are overall self-explanatory)

Hanamiya - Stupid Girls

There are a few ways to look at this

We know from the light novel with Imayoshi(Chapter 6 of Replace V), and also the online-gaming drama cd(Knb Season 2 Drama Cd 4), Hanamiya puts up this facade as this friendly and humble guy. Whether this is something he does all the time or only sometimes, is up for debate.

A stupid girl would be someone who still falls for this facade. Since there are of course girls who already know what Hanamiya is really like. Unlike the early years of middle school, where most people thought Hanamiya was this nice kid, his reputation is now well known(he’s the “bad boy” for a reason). So all things considered, you might have to be really stupid, or just blissfully ignorant(so still stupid to Hanamiya)to fall for the facade still.

Another way to look at it is, you know how people say “Are you stupid?!” when they do something risky? Same type of deal here.

It’s not just with brains, it’s also a girl who is too brave to an idiotic degree. Or perhaps impulsive. Someone who stands up to him,who doesn’t quite know what they’re getting into when they confront him. It would be someone who did figure it out. They know Hanamiya is not a good person, but they were merely scratching the surface, and they’ll learn that eventually.

Either interpretation, it’s simply good entertainment for him really, especially the ecstasy he gets when the girl eventually realizes exactly who they are dealing with.

I think his type being “stupid girls” would imply he’s not really going into relationships, expecting anything serious? To give an exact quote from the knb 3ds game(knb: miracles to victory)in his conversation with Moriyama:(translation by grimmfeather)

“ I’m completely focused on basketball right now. I want to lay every moment of my high school years on the line, put my best foot forward every day, and win with the rest of my team… That’s why I don’t even have time to think about love and whatnot at the moment.”

(I haven’t actually heard the voice acting for this part, so idk if he said it in his fake nice persona, but regardless, most of this is probably half-heartedly said, especially the “best foot forward everyday and win with the rest of my team”, but the gist of it is true, about not thinking about love)

I think if he was actually serious, he would prefer someone with some degree of intelligence, not a complete lost cause. But who knows, life might/probably will throw him a curve ball.

Since he’s not expecting any relationship to go very far, he is caught off guard if/when one actually works out

Also side note, regarding the light novel with Imayoshi,  can I just say how concerning it is that Hanamiya has apparently been doing rough play since he was twelve years old???? And possibly earlier??

Seto - Intelligent Girls

The opposite of Hanamiya obviously. I mentioned that there are girls who already know what Hanamiya is like, regardless of the phony nice persona,  that is an example of who Seto would prefer.

Just someone who is smart enough to see through it(since Hanamiya’s nice act is apparently pretty convincing, though Seto saw right through it just like Imayoshi did), especially if it's a girl who is meeting Hanamiya for the first time and doesn’t know anything about him. The girls who do know Hanamiya’s nature, knew  from word of mouth, not from actually interacting with Hanamiya.

Seto isn’t really someone who wants to be in a relationship anytime soon, but Seto would see yet another girl who is fooled by Hanamiya and think “Well I know I wouldn’t want a girl that’s that dumb“ that would be why his preference is someone smart.

I mean I’m not saying that the only girls that Seto would be interested in are the ones who go through hanamiya first, but they would certainly intrigue him.

It’s interesting to think about what else Seto considers to be “marks of intelligence” though, since his intelligence is on another level.

Romantic or not, Seto generally is more drawn towards intelligent individuals.(which is part of why he has his eye on Imayoshi, according to Kurofes)He just likes having someone who he can have an intellectual conversation with, it's part of why he gets along well with Hanamiya. Simple small talk doesn’t really bode well, or won’t get you very far.

Cause the things he finds interesting, other people might not understand or know anything about.

Furuhashi - Masochists/Someone with Masochistic Tendencies

It reminds me of the shoujo manga Ookami Shoujo to Kuroo Ouji.Basically the guy is an ass to this girl, even when they start dating.

And the girl was described as a “Masochist”, because she puts up with the guy’s rude and sadistic tendencies. And basically one of the reasons why the relationship worked is because the girl kind of just accepted the way the guy was(and the guy ended up softening up on his own anyway). Other girls would run away or call him a jerk, and never try talking to him again. But this girl was persistent and stuck around and didn’t try to change him. The Guy just needed someone who would accept him for who he is, cause he was just the way he is.(a very watered down version of the manga, idk if i’d recommend it, but it’s out there.)

(Now that I think about it, the manga fits Hanamiya’s situation too...cause the guy puts up a kind “prince-like” facade, and finds enjoyment when the numerous girls he meets sees his true nature…..hm)

ANYWAY, this is how i’d describe Furuhashi’s preference as well. Him being a sadist is just the way he is, and he’s not going to change for anyone. He may soften up a bit, but he’ll be the same guy overall.

Masochist in this sense, would mean someone who would accept Furuhashi for who he is, a sadist. They wouldn’t expect him to change for them. Someone who will love him for him.

To actively choose to still be with him, despite everything may be considered “Masochistic”

He gets pissed when girls try to change him. When they think that just because they’re dating,he’s supposed to change who he is. Because he would think that the girl never actually loved “him”, they were just painting a fake version in their head and tried to make it a reality. Or mold him into their ideal boyfriend. I think Furuhashi has trust issues because of past experiences.

And yeah sure, we can also look at it in the typical sense as well (in a perhaps ‘nsfw’ type of way ) He gets great joy from the things he gets to do on the basketball team, and that he is able to get off scot-free. So of course he would want other means to be able to do similar things, when he eventually leaves basketball.

He’s intrigued at the idea that someone would enjoy being hurt(cause he’s used to being met with anger)

But I think there’s more to it than that.

Hara - Girls with Pretty Legs

Not much to it really. It means exactly what it says.

Interesting that Hara’s preference is the only one of Kiridai that is a physical attribute.

He’s actually one of four(I think) knb characters whose preference is physical attributes (the other ones are Aomine and Murasakibara, and kinda Tsugawa)

This would mean Hara is someone who is (usually) attracted to one’s appearance first, before their personality.

It’s really just legs that Hara finds to be pretty. Doesn’t have to be slender or anything like that.

Huge fan of thigh highs of course, especially when they’re visibly squeezing the thigh, even if it's barely(he’ll notice)

He's the type of guy who sees those pics of girls with thigh highs just barely squeezing the thighs, it’s barely noticeable, and says they’re “thicc”

If we’re thinking about personality traits that Hara would prefer, if there were any, it would be someone who is a bit laid back just like him.

Someone who understands his jokes, won’t be like a “stick in the mud”.

But at the same time, I can see Hara being interested in someone a bit more serious(not too much), because those people are more fun to mess with and tease lol

Yamazaki - Cheerful Girls

So pure…

A girl with an infectious smile. He would try his best and do all he can to see that smile over and over again. They would be a  ray of sun in a room and happy-go-lucky

I think it could provide a nice break from his time in the team?

Constantly seeing bruised and sometimes bleeding players takes a toll on Yamazaki, who barely supports it. The vibes of the team are overall dark and can be overwhelming.

A cheerful girl gives him a break from that and the boost of serotonin he needs.

Just someone who is positive cause he doesn’t always want to think about crushing other players or other people’s demise.

I can see Yamazaki having a crush on a girl who is super friendly to him but he always thinks “She’s nice to me, but she’s nice to everyone so there’s no way she likes me in ‘that way’”

The girl would be someone who accepts his “loudness”, for lack of better word? I can see Yamazaki holding back to try to seem more “presentable”. The girl would be someone who Yamazaki is comfortable with being himself.

Can I just reiterate how cute Yamazaki’s preference in girls is….we have stupid girls, intelligent girls, masochists, girls with pretty legs, and Yamazaki is here like “I like cheerful girls…”

An angel indeed….

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hanamiya makoto is also human - a fic

Hanamiya’s mother is always saying how proud she is of him, of having a son so intelligent both academically and socially.

Sometimes, Hanamiya replies with a small smirk - forever the mommy’s boy who appreciates a compliment. But, sometimes, he shrugs away her words - “yeah, yeah, you have to say that, you’re my mother”. When he’s in that kind of mood, no matter how intensely she meets his gaze, with her hands clasping his, no matter how sternly she promises him that he is truly the best son she could possibly ask for - no matter what she says, it never reaches his eyes. Never sinks in.

She’s his mother. She know what he means when he shrugs his shoulders faintly and looks away.

He doesn’t look away with others though; he can’t let himself show even that slight a vulnerability. No, he’s all bravado and mocking when Seto comments on his natural genius. Seto, of all people! Admittedly, there are times where it’s fun to be recognised as the superior of the guy who everyone else thinks is their superior. And it’s not like Seto is insistent on reminding Hanamiya of his brain’s skill. No, Seto’s a good friend. When they’re sat alone together in the library, flicking through textbooks - both read university level material - Hanamiya feels normal.

And, when he feels normal, none of the other thoughts pop up.

Except, all that it takes, is a few words for Seto, on one of Hanamiya’s bad days, something about how Hanamiya is born for greatness, and that’s it. A little something in him snaps. A flinch. A smirking response but it’s colder, and he’ll spend the rest of his day with all the unpleasant jokes but none of the human, and no one will be able to figure out why the captain’s in a bad mood. No one ever does. (Even Hanamiya himself isn't quite sure.)

Ironically, it’s the team that’s both the best and worse thing in Hanamiya’s life. The freedom it provides him, the comradeship: that’s second to none. Hanamiya has never liked anymore more than he likes these five fuckers (and that’s including Matsumoto), and few things compare to the ecstasy of having gotten the coach fired, or watching the change in an ace’s eyes - from fire to hopelessness - as their legs no longer do what they demand. The feeling of booing from fellow players in the audience who know what’s up; the feeling of your team cheering on your strategies in the locker room post a win: these are sensations upon which Hanamiya thrives.

He just wishes no one would say that one line.

“Man, creating strategies to help us win comes naturally to you.”

Sometimes Hanamiya can kid himself into think that they do come naturally. Sometimes that’s the truth. With as quick-thinking and problem-solving a brain as his, a lot of things come naturally to you.

But it’s no miracle. There’s no miracle work, with basketball, especially not his type of play. No, it’s hours spent studying your opponents in secret, so people will think you’re a mindreader, when, in reality, it was your senpai to whom this was like breathing, and you’re a fraud, a dude who cheats because his basketball wouldn’t be good enough otherwise.

No, that’s not true.

Hanamiya chose this play style because it’s fun above all else.

(But, sometimes, that voice, that fucking nagging, starts up, and it’s all Hanamiya can do not to throw his head against the wall.)

Every day, people - students, teachers, people in the street ball circuit - grow more cautious of Hanamiya. He’s infamous. Preceded only by the words genius and evil. The guy who cannot beat in a street ball match, or the boy you cannot win an argument with (and, if you do, you may lose your teaching career), or that person in the corridor who you’d better not cross. He sees it best in the eyes of the disciplinary committee. When he’s sat at the front of their table, his arms spread out across the desk - “what do we have today?” - he can see the way they retreat. Intimidated by this ogre of no flaws.

Moving away like he’s poisonous.

And, it would be a lie, to say Hanamiya doesn’t enjoy playing the role of the big bad wolf, no, the venomous spider with his eyes all-seeing and his arms all reaching. He’s the black widow. He’s the villain, the victor, the man with all the glory and respect.

But he’s the spider.

He’s a tiny little invertebrate who’s always on edge about someone destroying his web.

A tiny little invertebrate who, in the evenings, after a day of being invincible, crawls to a corner in his room, and hides there not just because he likes the dark.

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[myriadlabrynth]

Kiridai vs Players They Have Their Eyes On

And why this could be the case(another interesting thing to look into!)

Referencing the Kurofes Book

Hanamiya - Has his eyes on Kiyoshi

An obvious one.A fellow non-rakuzan uncrowned king who is the exact opposite of him.

Like Furuhashi said, Hanamiya hates the type of person Kiyoshi is, and when things don’t go his way.

He wants to crush Kiyoshi so badly, both physically and mentally for his fluffy pure ideals. I’d imagine Hanamiya has met people like Kiyoshi, and is usually successful with breaking their pure beliefs, but Kiyoshi has been a brick wall for him.

Him being unsuccessful pisses him off beyond belief.

Things don’t go his way at crushing the type of guy that he hates??? Good god.

His whole point of joining basketball was that “there were a lot of annoying people there”

So of course he has his eyes on Kiyoshi, he’s his main target. An unbreakable one at that.

If anything, I think Hanamiya should take pointers from Murasakibara(fellow Kiyoshi hater lol), because he was more successful at breaking Kiyoshi

Seto - Has his eyes on Imayoshi

Fascinated that this is another smart and ruthless player that knows Hanamiya better than anyone. Imayoshi is almost like another Hanamiya, just minus the rough play, cause Imayoshi frankly doesn’t need it to still irritate the other players all the same.

And the fact that Hanamiya acknowledges and believes that Imayoshi is worse than himself??? Now that piqued Seto’s interest.

The “I don’t really know him, but are you one to talk?” line

Seto is still shocked that Kuroko was the one who ruined the spider web, something that Seto plays a key role in.  Hanamiya said that Seirin was the first to “ruin his plans”, so of course Seto was usually successful.

I actually think this is maybe why Seto feels comfortable sleeping during matches, because he doesn’t expect to fail. Every match beforehand was the same song and dance, so he didn’t have to worry about whatever happened earlier in the match, he assumed things would go according to plan as always.

So to see Imayoshi be able to stop Kuroko in the Seirin v. Touou 2 match, the player who essentially caused Seto to fail for the first time, only piqued his interests in the touou captain further.

I don’t think Seto is that passionate about basketball, but failing for the first time made him more motivated to practice(though it doesn’t really matter since the kiridai practices have become more brutal anyway after the seirin v. rakuzan match)

 He likely took the things he saw from the Seirin v. Touou 2 match and took it into consideration during practice, so if/when Kirisaki Daiichi meets with Seirin, he’ll be prepared.

Furuhashi - Has his eyes on Akashi

The other characters who have their eyes on Akashi (Nijimura, Shirogane, Midorima) have some noticeable relation to him, (Previous Teiko Captain, Head coach of Teiko, a close friend, respectively).

Furuhashi is the only one who doesn’t. So he’s purely looking from an outside perspective. As far as we know, he doesn’t personally know Akashi.

An obvious reason for the intrigue is just because of Akashi’s skills. That could be the reason why any player may have their eyes on a GoM. The question becomes “Why this particular GoM player?”

I think Furuhashi may be interested in ankle break, and learning it himself

He’s particularly interested in being able to make players kneel before him, instead of simply falling over.

His special ability is the worst of Kiridai so that must have proven tricky

Although Furuhashi is mainly on Kiridai for the roughplay, he perhaps has some interest in improving his basketball skills too.

And who better to look at than Akashi right?

His main interest in Akashi either stems from prior knowledge of him, or after watching the Seirin v. Rakuzan match.

Hara - Has his eyes on Murasakibara

The hardest for me to figure out honestly

Similar to Furuhashi, a case of “It’s natural to have your eyes on the GoM, so why is Murasakibara specifically the one that interests Hara the most?”

He’s also the only one with eyes on Murasakibara

I honestly think Hara simply admires him. His reason for joining basketball was because he thought it was cool right? Murasakibara may be one of the reasons, if not THE reason he thinks it’s cool. 

Murasakibara is so lax and yet he’s one of the top high school players in Japan?? That’s what struck Hara.

The two are similar. Purple hair, carefree/childish attitude(though their carefree-ness are different), though they still perform well in basketball despite this.

And actually since fujimaki depicted Hara with blonde hair in the manga, and there’s common headcanon that Hara dyes his hair. If you go with that headcanon, you can think that Hara chose lilac to kind of match Murasakibara(a huge stretch but why not)

Interestingly enough, Murasakibara is also a part of the health committee

Murasakibara also usually has something “in his mouth”, in his case its food. Though he never does during matches, unlike Hara and his gum.

I also like to imagine that Hara used to be the tallest of Kiridai before Seto joined, beating Hara by a couple of centimeters. This annoyed him a bit, could be a pride thing.

And here is Murasakibara who is undeniably the tallest out of the whole league, and he’s younger than Hara.

So I think it might just be the skills and similarities Hara sees in Murasakibara, and his height is an aspiration.

Yamazaki - Has his eyes on Moriyama

The only one with eyes on Moriyama, but unlike Hara, it was a bit easier to come up with reasons why.

Fellow Shooting Guard, fascinated by his unorthodox/underhanded shot

Might also be interested in Moriyama because of him being a ladies man. Not that Yamazaki  wants to be one himself or necessarily wants a relationship per se

Yamazaki being in Kiridai gives him a bad impression, even if he’s the most sensible guy. People generally tend to stay away from the group, and thus, away from him.

4 out of 5 are “bad”, what are the chances that the one guy left will be any different right?

The cheerful girls that Yamazaki prefers, or girls in general see him and immediately flee, which bothers him.

Moriyama being a ladies man might give Yamazaki pointers on how to seem more presentable to girls, so they won’t run at a first glance at his uniform.

Yamazaki only knows that Moriyama is a “ladies man” from word of mouth though, he doesn’t know that Moriyama isn’t that successful either lol

Also I just realized the name similarities? Its all a coincidence but

Kiyoshi and Imayoshi rhymes

Furuhashi and Akashi rhymes

Hara and Murasakibara rhymes

And Yamazaki and Moriyama both have “Yama” in their name

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Kiridai vs Roughplay + Structure of the Team: An Analysis

Just my observations, interpretations, and just rambles regarding each member’s “relation” with rough play + a little rambling about each member’s role in the team

This was a lot of fun to write and look into! Been rewatching the kiridai match a lot recently. I reference the Kurofes book a lot, since it provides a lot of good insight. Sorry if this is incoherent 

Hanamiya

He’s the mastermind that prefers having others carry his plans out and do the dirty work for him.

Him doing rough play himself is a very last resort. He only attempted to hit Kuroko once because he was desperate.

Other players are like his “lives”

On the possibility that a rough play gets caught, the kiridai player may be removed. Hanamiya is needed in the lineup, no matter what, so he cannot risk doing the rough play himself.

By using the other players, the rough play gets done. And if the player gets caught(which has never happened), that player will be removed, but Hanamiya is still there to lead the remaining  team, and utilize the spider web later.

Losing the other players would still suck of course, but rather them than him.

Getting caught by rough play isn’t really a concern for Hanamiya anyway. 

I believe how well players can conceal their actions, so getting caught wouldn’t be an issue in the first place, goes into Hanamiya’s decision on picking starters. Apart from Yamazaki.

Gotta think ahead for the possibility anyway, even if it is unlikely 

Furuhashi

You can’t see it in his face, but he RELISHES in it.THRIVES in it

Enjoys it the most out of everyone on the team 

I believe this is another reason why Hanamiya doesn’t do rough play himself. Yes, Hanamiya would rather have them be taken out of the game than him, should a rough play get caught.

But, he also knows that he can just let Furuhashi and the others do most of it, because he knows they are more than willing to go all out with it. 

No arguments made against taking the risk of being removed from the game(cause they know they won’t). No need for Hanamiya to do it himself anyway.

It’s why Furu likes a masochist

Is it perhaps after graduating high school, he no longer has a place where his sadistic tendencies can thrive ? He needs to find another ‘target’?

(though I also think he likes a masochist cause that would mean the person would accept Furu for who he is. They’d love him for him, and wouldn’t try to change him, but that’s for another discussion)

To be honest I’d argue that Furuhashi isn’t really in matches for basketball per se? At least in a scoring sense (so kind of like a Kuroko).

 He’s a fine player overall(Fujimaki says that “His ability as a basketball player is high” when describing his stats in Kurofes), but probably not score-focused in matches. Not as much as Hara or Yamazaki.

We actually have never seen him make a shot.(On screen anyway)

He also has the worst special ability of the team...

He will make shots if he can, but that’s not his focus.

I think Furu’s primarily purpose in matches is the rough play

Which can coincide with Yamazaki’s “purpose”, and the other members’ purpose as well.(explained later)

He’s similar to Seto, who’s not really in the game to score points, but as support.

Just as a side note, for statistics: In the Kiridai vs. Seirin 2 match, Out of the 70 points scored, 19 points were shown on screen and they are as follows;

Hanamiya: 9 points (I think the teardrop was a 3-pointer?)

Hara - 6 points

Yamazaki - 2 points 

Seto - 2 points

Of course somewhere in the remaining 51 points, Furuhashi certainly scored something, but its a bit odd that we never saw at least one basket from him on screen(anime) or a panel(manga)? I still believe that Furuhashi is mainly in the game for support and not so much scoring, though he still probably scored off screen.

Hara

First I want to point out that in Kurofes, Fujimaki describes Hara’s stats as literally “Master of Roughplay”

Enjoys it to a slightly SLIGHTLY lesser extent, compared to Furuhashi, but he enjoys the heck out of it.

It’s FUN for him. And from the quote above and of course what we saw, he’s very good at it. 

Literally says to the Senshinkan player “Of course we enjoy winning like this, are you stupid?”

Enjoys it more so to get under players’ skins and piss them off, which is how i’d differentiate he and Furuhashi

Furuhashi  mainly enjoys physically hurting others, he’s not fazed when people get angry at him about it.

That’s not to say Hara doesn’t enjoy the physical part though

The way he smirked when Kagami was about to punch him, or when Kagami got a charging call. 

He just enjoys pissing people off, and rough play certainly does the job.

The rough play is supposed to get the other team angry, so who better to have on the team than someone who loves to do just that.

Starter wise, it seems that he, Furuhashi, and Matsumoto are in charge with the bulk of the rough play (fyi, I don’t have much info to go off of for Matsumoto so I won’t really write about him)

Seto

We’ve only seen him do rough play once

Probably due to timing/story pacing. There to give a reason to switch Kiyoshi out from the match.

Also maybe to not have another Yamazaki, aka someone who seems to not do rough play

Of course not against it at all, but from what we see, his usage is more along the lines of Hanamiya. Does it when he “has” to.

He doesn’t try to find every opportunity to use rough play

Seto is really just  there to help with the spider web so his role isn’t focused on rough play, compared to Furuhashi and Hara.

Going back to what I said about not risking taking Hanamiya out of the match due to rough play, the same can be said for Seto

Both are literally needed for the spider web to work, so Seto potentially being removed from the match must be avoided(again, they’re all good enough at rough play that this is unlikely anyway, but still)

So Seto is only brought in right when it is about to be used(from what we’ve seen)

Nonetheless, he’ll happily make a blow should the situation arise.

Yamazaki

An interesting one to look at

I agree that he is overall an angel(in other aspects) but he clearly isn’t ENTIRELY against or is above the rough play.

He doesn’t really fall into either extreme (completely against or for roughplay).

I believe he at least ATTEMPTED at it, at first, to perhaps match the team’s play-style (he felt that he had to/hanamiya made it mandatory during practice, etc)

He’s apparently not good at “tricks” or “schemes”, strategic rough play is along those lines.

A reason why he’s not good at roughplay could be because he is reluctant, because he does indeed have some conscience left. With roughplay, you cannot hesitate.

Another reason could be he is simply not good at it, regardless of good conscience (could have poor timing, he’s not discrete enough, etc)

Either way, he’ll get caught if he tries,hanamiya most likely noticed this during practice

His skills are good enough to still have him in the starter lineup

This goes with what I said about “Furu’s purpose” in matches

Furu is mostly there for his “rough play skills” and not so much basketball

Yamazaki is there for his basketball skills and not at all for rough play

He’s not going to argue against it, especially when it favors the team’s performance.

This is an anime only thing, so take it with a grain of salt, his face change when Hanamiya said that Kiyoshi needs only one more hit before he’s gone:

Fujimaki did indeed say that he was most “decent” person of the team, and that he is “ The only conscience among the “bad boy” gang “(from Kurofes) and that is true. 

But also, the bar is so low for Kirisaki Daiichi so…..

I believe that Yamazaki is against rough play in terms of doing it himself, but he’ll turn a blind eye when the others do it.

Basically, Yamazaki is in a “if you don’t call it out, then you are part of the problem” type of situation. 

He may have a “It’s okay since I don’t do the rough play myself” kind of mentality

And Yamazaki might have no intention of calling it out

It may be because he genuinely enjoys basketball and actually wants to win, even if dirty tactics are used

All in all, Yamazaki could be technically against the rough play, and probably would prefer not having it, in an ideal world. If he was on a different team.

But the fact is he is part of Kirisaki Daiichi, and he certainly won’t argue against Hanamiya. 

And if the team does well because the rough play, then he’ll do well, so there’s no arguing with that either.

We can look more closely at what each member contributes to the team. We know that they don’t actually play their assigned basketball positions(aside from Yamazaki?) but they still play “a position”:

Hanamiya 

There for his leadership, his basketball skills as an uncrowned king, for his intelligence, and rough play if necessary

Rough play by Hanamiya himself is a last resort

Seto

His intelligence for the spider web, and rough play if necessary

Mainly in the second half of the match

He’s not really there so much for basketball per se (so like Furuhashi)

Part of why he isn’t a starter

So overall a support player

Hara

An even mix of rough play and basketball

Clearly good at both since he contributed a good amount of shots 

And did his fair share of rough play

Furuhashi

Mostly, if not purely for his rough play

Again, we have never seen Furuhashi make a shot

We’ve only seen him attempt 1 shot, which he missed

We only saw Yamazaki score 2 points, but he attempted more shots than Furu

Similar to Seto, not really score focused; an overall support player

In kurofes, Fujimaki describes Furu’s stats as “High ability that even Hanamiya acknowledges”

I like to think it refers to both basketball and roughplay. Especially since Fujimaki describes Hara’s skills as such.

Tbh, if it weren’t Fujimaki specifically saying that Furu’s basketball abilities are high, I would have assumed it was just the rough play.

I wish we could have seen his basketball skills more during the match, instead of just being a fact in a book...

Yamazaki

Purely for his basketball skills

We’ve never seen him participate in rough play 

Clearly skilled enough that Hanamiya has him as a starter despite the lack of rough play 

In fact, from the Kurofes book, Fujimaki describes Yamazaki as “Kirisaki Daiichi’s SG who holds his own against powerhouse schools, with ability that is acknowledged by “Uncrowned General” Hanamiya.”

While going through this, the realization that Furuhashi and Yamazaki play pretty much opposite roles in matches was really interesting. 

They’re even both described as having abilities that Hanamiya acknowledges.

And it’s interesting to see that Hara is in the middle and pretty much an all-rounder. I’d argue his intelligence could play a part, judging by the fact that he came up with a decent theory for the Vanishing Drive (albeit incorrect, but it was on the right track.) And also how good he is at rough play (even though he wasn’t able to step on Kagami’s foot, with quick thinking, Hara “screened” him out and still got a basket. That takes some smarts.)

#kirisaki daiichi #kirisaki daichi #kiridai #knb #hanamiya makoto #hara kazuya #furuhashi kojiro #seto kentaro #yamazaki hiroshi #randomly started calling Furuhashi ‘Furu’ half way through this #i say 'rough play' and 'from what we've seen' a lot in this #i hate that sub bullets don't work properly #kiridai analysis #long post #super rambly my bad

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Kiridai’s Intelligence

My interpretation of where the boys rank from (Smartest to Least Smartest’(Top 2 really isn’t an interpretation though lol)

Hanamiya

Smartest of course, a given really. Does it really need to be explained

Smart because he is smart, doesn’t matter if he puts effort into or if he particularly cares about the subject.

Best subject is chemistry. Arguably difficult subject

If chemistry is the best subject for an already crazy smart guy, then he must REALLY be well versed in it

Seto

Second Smartest, another given.

He said he, with an iq of 160, isn’t even close to Hanamiya

Though not on the same level, Seto strikes me as another “does well without trying” type

“Can do it in his sleep” type of deal

Why he is able to coordinate with Hanamiya

Best subject is Mathematics,pretty impressive

Same with Hanamiya, his IQ being so high, saying his best subject is Math may even still be undercutting just how good he is at it.

Hara

Third Smartest

His theory for Kuroko’s vanishing drive was seriously impressive, and pretty close and on the right track.

Far from Hanamiya and Seto’s intelligence, but a lot smarter than he lets on.

His grades don’t really let on how smart he is

Has a lot of potential in my eyes, the type who can do really well if he puts effort into it, but he chooses not to.

If it's something he does care about, then he will excel

His extracurriculars are so all over the place as well

Part of the health committee, best subject is ancient literature, and he can play the drums??? The boy is smart in a variety of areas

He’s the kind who doesn’t want to appear as a smart person, or I guess a “nerd”

He wants people to underestimate him. To have low expectations. So that they’ll look dumb when they see that he’s not just some goof

(Also he wants people to have low expectations of him so they won’t be disappointed)

Furuhashi

Fourth Smartest

Though not far from Hara

Solely based on how we haven’t really got as much of a glimpse of his intelligence as the first three

Though we know he is good with rough play and it takes some smarts to observe the situation, and know when the right time to do it is. (not that i know from personal experience)

Like Hara, his intelligence is dependent on what he cares about

Furuhashi is someone who does something primarily out of self-satisfaction. He seldom puts effort into something if he doesn’t get anything out of it, unless its something he literally has to do.

He did join basketball for no particular reason, but he stayed because he enjoys what he is able to do.

His hobby is gardening in his and his specialty is making bread

Btw, I find it interesting that his hobby is something that requires so much delicacy and gentle care….hm

When it comes to these things that he cares about or enjoys, his intelligence shines. Though that isn’t to say that he isn’t overall successful academically either.

We know he is part of the library committee as well. We may assume that he is well read and a bit of a book worm

Especially if we continue to consider that Furuhashi operates out of self-satisfaction(joined the library committee because he enjoys reading)

Yamazaki

Fifth Smartest

Though not necessarily “dumb” if that makes sense. I don’t think he’s a lost cause.

Part of why he doesn’t participate in rough play

He’s not good at it(in terms of assessing the situation and knowing the timing to make a hit, all in a fast paced game). Other part is he’s more morally sound, as Fujimaki said

He’s not part of a committee so there’s nothing to take from there.

His best subject is Biology which is commendable

Clearly knows more outside of the mitochondria being the powerhouse of the cell.

He also knows that only plant cells have cell walls

I can imagine that he does well because he genuinely finds the subject to be interesting (so the same way Hara and Furuhashi operates)

* The best subject is up for debate, all things considered, since you still may not necessarily do well in your best subject (if your grades are just bad). It’s like the best subject by default’.

Also it depends if you found the subject difficult. Someone’s best subject being math may be less impressive for some, than it is to others. But who cares

#kirisaki daiichi #kirisaki daichi #kiridai #knb #hara kazuya #hanamiya makoto #seto kentaro #furuhashi kojiro #yamazaki hiroshi #kiridai analysis #its mainly third thru fifth that's speculation

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Does the rest of Kirisaki Daiichi team know that Hanamiya is still scared of Imayoshi?

To answer this, we’ll run through a lil transcript of chapter 126 where the boys discuss Imayoshi.

Yamazaki: Hey, your senpai’s amazing. He’s actually smarter than you, isn’t he, Hanamiya?

For starters, ‘senpai’ tells us that the team is already aware of Hanamiya’s relationship with Imayoshi, but the ‘actually’ could suggest that Hanamiya may have not told them fully just how good Imayoshi is - and this idea is highlighted by Yamazaki’s big old smirk in the panel. Furuhashi and Seto also have their eyes turned to Hanamiya (suggesting they’re also surprised by how well Imayoshi’s performing). Only Hara seems to not care less - either Hanamiya had an honest conversation with him about Imayoshi, or he’s too focused on watching how Imayoshi’s marking Kuroko (possible as only a match ago he was in Imayoshi’s position).

Hanamiya, with a frown: You’re annoying, shut up

To Hanamiya, the idea of anyone being smarter than him is just insulting - plus he doesn’t appreciate jokes at his expense.

Hanamiya, carrying on, but without a particularly emotional gaze, watching the game: I don’t know about intelligence …but I wouldn’t want to compete at things like poker with him.

The fact that he doesn’t completely dismiss the intelligence remark, and the fact he admits there are things in which Imayoshi is stronger than him, is very telling. He’s being a lot more respectful, and humble, than one would expect of Hanamiya - this is reflected in a very confused Yamazaki beside him, saying ‘what?’ as he talks.

Hanamiya: Reading the opponent’s mind from their facial expressions and habits - he’s a monster when it comes to playing mind games. He’s completely aware of whatever Kuroko’s thinking. No one is better than him at doing what others don’t want.

These are the key words really. You wouldn’t expect such blatant praise from Hanamiya - and this is praise, because this is exactly the type of thing he would admire - which suggests that he holds Imayoshi in high esteem. ‘Course, Hanamiya enjoys his current play style (and I don’t think he’d ever fully stop using it, even if there was no need for it), but there is definitely some jealousy in him as regards Imayoshi’s methods.

And this is backed up by Hanamiya’s words earlier in the chapter, wherein he tells Seto that Imayoshi’s the ‘right one’ to stop Kuroko, and that ‘no one has a worse personality’ than Imayoshi. He’s grinning when he makes the first point, so it’s safe to presume that he’s grinning when making the second, and that there’s a hint of pride in Imayoshi being such an awful dude. (That’s his senpai, after all!)

The whole idea about Hanamiya being scared of Imayoshi is perpetuated by what follows this scene in the anime - seen below in the NG-shuu/blooper version:

Honestly, this segment is clearly just for entertainment, so I wouldn’t take it as canon. But, if it was canon, Hanamiya would be rightfully spooked that Imayoshi heard him from all that way, maybe even a little embarrassed.

And while I’m discussing Hanamiya/Imayoshi’s relationship, let me mention that the information we get about the coaching situation of Kiridai, we get from Imayoshi.

Fujimaki uses Hanamiya and Imayoshi to give us information on the other. This, combined with Hanamiya being the player that Imayoshi has his eyes on, tells us just how close their relationship is. Look at Imayoshi’s grin as corrects his teammate; you can’t tell me he’s not proud of Hanamiya. Personally, I’d like to think that Hanamiya was the one to tell Imayoshi that the coach quit (a way of showing off to his senpai), because there’s no other way of Imayoshi having found out; the school wouldn’t want people to think that they couldn’t hire a coach, that’s probably why the supervisor was taken to the match. (Look how uninterested he appears.)

In conclusion

Imayoshi was definitely a factor in making Hanamiya the monster he is in high school. (I suspect that their middle school basketball team was very powerful with the two of them on it, but the fact that Hanamiya’s an uncrowned king, rather than Imayoshi, makes me think that Imayoshi took up a supporting role in matches, and let Hanamiya shine. This then lends itself to why Imayoshi’s keeping his eyes on Hanamiya; he wants to see what the demon he helped create will become etc)

What might be construed as Hanamiya’s fear of Imayoshi, is actually just a healthy amount of respect towards him. (Though Hanamiya’s definitely got some unpleasant memories with Imayoshi from high school - you can’t tell me that Imayoshi didn’t use his ‘mind reading’ to embarrass Hanamiya once or twice, like any good senpai would.

The rest of the Kiridai team know to some extent about Hanamiya/Imayoshi’s relationship, but, for the sake of saving face, Hanamiya’s not told them everything

#anyway researching for this post and the other has made me fall in love with imayoshi #this dude is so cool man #so so so cool #puts the others to shame #ultimate senpai #imayoshi shouichi #hanamiya makoto #kiridai #kirisaki daiichi #too high #touou academy #touou high #imahana #platonic hcs #hcs #headcanons #character analysis #imagines #scenarios #hanamiya scared of imayoshi #yamazaki hiroshi #kuroko no basket #kuroko no basuke #the basketball which kuroko plays

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comrades | platonic!imahana

tags; 2.1k words on middle school hanamiya and imayoshi. if you like character analysis fics, you’ll like this. if you like a hanamiya whose not as omnipotent as he becomes in kiridai, you’ll like this. if you ship imahana, you may just like this too. ;) reblog i’m begging you

****

In his first year of middle school, Hanamiya is an arrogant little shit.

He’s not yet learnt how to allow himself to droop to the level of mere mortals, to hang out with them rather than watching them like a scientist does lab rats. Though there are those around him who might call him a friend, he himself will never call them anything of the sort. Sure, they can be fun to play with - sometimes - but it doesn’t take long for them to become boring and predictable. They’re tools, that’s all. Stupid children who’ll never realise just how far his brilliance extends, who’ve been sentenced to as pitiful an existence as the trash he kicks in the street. Pathetic losers who think they’re delinquents, yet their own weakness is so deeply engraved in their brains that they’ve decided to follow Hanamiya around.  Useless dumb fucks who stare at him blankly whenever he says anything of vague intelligence.

That’s why, the first time he meets Imayoshi, sees that amused smile, seething in insincerity, Hanamiya feels an emotion akin to falling in love. That of having found someone who understood you. A comrade.

****

Imayoshi’s good to Hanamiya.

He’s a year older, has his own friends, and yet he spends time with Hanamiya all the same, as if he sees something in a brat with bad attitude. During practice, he’s usually the one to pair up with Hanamiya, a good thing given that their teammates treat the boy, who’s already developing a rough play style, with a careful suspicion. Hanamiya reckons the only reason he’s still on the first string is because his talent is shining through; they can’t get rid of someone with his talent. Besides, with him around, Imayoshi as a point guard is even more powerful.

The two of them develop a language through glances, that one day Hanamiya will use with a 6’3 centre.

Sometimes, they go out together. Sat in a cafe, they watch the people around them, and Imayoshi murmurs guesses and predications he has about these strangers. He’s always correct. Occasionally, he adds a comment which makes Hanamiya glance a little closer at his companion, wondering how such cruel words can come from such an even-tempered demeanour. Not that Hanamiya minds, of course. He gets a grin on his own face from the idea that he’s spending time with such a guy.

No longer is he the king isolated on his throne. He’s got an advisor stood beside him now.

****

When Hanamiya starts his second year of middle school, Imayoshi his third, he earns even more power in the basketball team, largely because Imayoshi is the captain now.

Of course, Imayoshi still insists on Hanamiya fine-tuning his basketball skills, rather than focusing on his violence-centred techniques. But, in matches with tougher competition, sometimes he pulls Hanamiya to his side.

“Poor number 5,” Imayoshi smiles, taking a swig of water, “looks like he’s a bit on the sorer side.”

Grinning like a dog wanting to chase a squirrel, Hanamiya replies, “it’s his left shoulder.”

“Maybe someone should put him out of his misery.”

With his bottle empty, Imayoshi rejoins the rest of the team to talk tactics for the second half of the match. Hanamiya’s left standing alone to study his opposition a little closer, to plan and prepare, and his grin grows even larger when he hears Imayoshi say, in the background,

“You’ll no longer be marking number 5. He’s a bit fast for you. We’ll get Hanamiya to deal with him instead.”

The year in which Imayoshi is the team captain is the year in which most basketball-playing middle schoolers start calling Hanamiya ‘the Bad Boy’. It’s also the year he is labelled an Uncrowned King. And it’s also the year he spends most by Imayoshi’s side.

Hanamiya’s mother is very taken by Imayoshi. Every time she meets Imayoshi, she thanks him for taking her son under his wing. Imayoshi’s father, in the meantime, likes to tell Hanamiya just how much potential he thinks the boy has (a lot). And this encourages the crush Imayoshi’s younger sister has on Hanamiya, for about a term, until she finds someone new.

Imayoshi borrows from Hanamiya’s collection of crime and mystery novels. They run their own sort of book club where they discuss what they would have done, if they were the criminals depicted; Hanamiya’s ideas are gruesome, Imayoshi’s involve mental torture that makes even his companion shiver. Neither of them would ever get caught. The time Imayoshi teaches Hanamiya how to gut a fish, when they’re sat together at sunset with blood all over their hands, Hanamiya realises that, if he were to become a murderer, he’d want Imayoshi as the Bonnie to his Clyde.

Here’s the thing though. If they were asked to describe their relationship with each other, Hanamiya would say ‘good friends’. Whilst Imayoshi could say anything; he might just say ‘acquaintances.’

It’s been this long, but Hanamiya still struggles to read Imayoshi’s true emotions.

But, at the same time, he understands him more the others do.

One Thursday evening, at the start of practice, solidifies that theory.

The last of the players to arrive, Hanamiya strolls into the gym, kicking a basketball along with him. His first words are,

“Where’s Imayoshi?”

“Dunno,” replies one of the third years, who’s been stretching in the corner and now stands up to his full height, “he said a family member went to hospital. Maybe his mother’s sick or something.”

The frustration Hanamiya had when the boy started talking (sure, they’re in different classes, but why did Imayoshi give that information to this guy instead of Hanamiya?) soon dissipates. All he can think is that this motherfucker doesn’t know that Imayoshi’s mother is dead. They’ve spent three years together, and yet Hanamiya’s the only one who knows the truth about Imayoshi’s home situation. That has to count for something.

Hanamiya’s evening is made even better when, as he changes back into his school uniform, he receives a text from Imayoshi himself.

“Can you pick up my sister?” the third year has written, with none of his usual teasing tone.

“Sure,” replies Hanamiya, “is your father okay?”

“Yeah. Thanks.”

Maybe it’s because Imayoshi’s sister has met Hanamiya the most, so is more likely to come with him if he shows up at her school gates. Maybe it’s because a previous crush is the best person to tell a young girl that her father’s gone to hospital. 


Or maybe, just maybe, it’s because Hanamiya’s the one Imayoshi trusts the most.

It almost embarrasses Hanamiya just how much he likes that concept. He grins all the way to her school. And, even when he’s forced to deal with the irritating female middle schooler babble about “Imayoshi! Is this your boyfriend?”, whilst said younger Imayoshi is clinging to his arm, blushing, shyly denying the claims in a way designed to make others disregard the denial, whilst Hanamiya is trying to drag her away from her companions, even all this doesn’t ruin Hanamiya’s good mood. He even treats the girl on their route home.

Upon arrival, when she starts crying, he pats her back (albeit stiffly), and lets her convince him to stay there and watch Sailor Moon with her. When she grumbles about the earlier snack not having been enough for a growing girl, he makes her a small dinner, whilst she debates which Sailor Guardian he’s most like.

It’s while Hanamiya’s trying to stop the girl from putting ribbons in his hair that her brother arrives home. Hanamiya’s never seen Imayoshi look so exhausted; there’s none of the usual grin on the boy’s face, his hair is dishevelled, and there’s even a hint of a childlike sorrow in his eyes.

“Oh, Hanamiya,” his voice is monotone, “you’re still here.”

“I made some shit to eat if you want it,” Hanamiya can’t match Imayoshi’s gaze; there’s something very awkward about being introduced to the vulnerability of a person you admire for their infrangible strength.

“Alright.” Slipping off his coat, Imayoshi turns to his sister, “don’t worry about dad. He’ll be home in a few days - he was just overworked.”

The three of them end up watching Sailor Moon together, until the sky outside goes black, Imayoshi’s sister falls asleep, and it’s time for Hanamiya to make his way home.

“I suppose I don’t need to tell you to stay safe,” says Imayoshi, leaning against the doorway.

Hanamiya snorts with laughter, “tell that to anyone who gets in my way instead.”

The corners of Imayoshi’s lips rise - the first sincere smile Hanamiya’s seen him make towards anyone that’s not a family member - and that’s when Hanamiya decided that he’s Imayoshi’s closest friend.

Hanamiya picks up Imayoshi’s sister from school two more times that week, leaving some meals his mother prepared for the siblings in the fridge. Then, during the team’s match on Sunday, Imayoshi gives him a little more leeway to play as he wishes. So Hanamiya puts a point guard out of action for the foreseeable future.

Best of all, when one of the opponents starts yelling at the referee, claiming that Hanamiya did it on purpose, and said referee starts to lean towards the boy’s point of view, it’s Imayoshi who comes to Hanamiya’s rescue.

But, then again, that’s why Hanamiya had allowed himself to slip up.

With Imayoshi’s silver tongue behind him, he’s invincible.

****

At the end of his second year of middle school, Hanamiya comes home to find two people at the dinner table. The first, his mother, who he was expecting. The second, his father, of whom he’s only got a faint recollection, and not a pleasant one.  For a little while, he puts up with the situation. However, upon being asked whether he’d like to spend more time with his dad, upon seeing the discomfort in his mother’s face, he punches the guy in the nose - maybe breaks it - and storms out. He can’t stay in the house with that guy’s stench in it.

So he ends up, somehow, crying in Imayoshi’s bathroom, and Imayoshi never comments on it, though Hanamiya hears him tell his sister outside ‘not right now’.

“I’ve got a cold,” says Hanamiya when he unlocks the door, with his eyes rubbed red, smothering sniffles.

“Yeah,” Imayoshi’s not smiling, “it’s been frosty recently.”

Imayoshi warms them up some ramen. They eat in silence until, with a mouthful of noodles, Hanamiya starts mumbling quietly about what happened - the punch, the audacity of his bastard of a father, and the shittiness of his bastard of a father.

With anyone else, Hanamiya would keep his mouth shut. But Imayoshi also lives in a single parent family.

He’s the only one who gets it.

****

It took Imayoshi’s graduation - to some high school unheard of in the basketball scene - for Hanamiya to realise once more how boring middle school is. But he’s matured in this last few years; he’s starting to see boredom as an opportunity.

He spends more time with his old delinquent friends, entertaining himself with giving them tasks of increasing risk (several of which earn him cash); he starts playing around with the idea of a ‘spider’s web’, using the basketball team’s new first years as test subjects, knowing the captain of the team is powerless to stop him.  He starts spending his evenings studying as part of his plan to get into Kirisaki Daichi on a scholarship. Among other things, he wants Imayoshi to see him in that black-and-purple uniform that insinuates power.

One time, Hanamiya makes an hour long detour to walk past Touou high school on his journey home. He waits on the street opposite the school gates, a hood low over his head, as the students start trickling out. It takes around ten minutes for Imayoshi to appear in the mix. But he’s accompanied by some broad-backed brunette, who looks like the type of guy to pat you on your back when you cry.

Hanamiya hates him. More than that, he hates himself for having made an hour detour in the hopes Imayoshi would have been alone, might have seen him, might have offered for them to hang out. It was a stupid idea - of all people, Imayoshi knows best how to blend in and befriend - plus, to make matters worse, it’s started to rain. And Hanamiya didn’t bring an umbrella.

He grumbles all the way to the station in his soaked hoodie. Grumbles when he’s back home.

Receives a message from Imayoshi - “I saw you standing there. Why didn’t you say hi?” - and can smell Imayoshi’s shit-eating grin like the man’s standing right there in front of him.

When he throws his phone against the sofa, the screen cracks, and he has reason to grumble even more.

#the dynamic between imayoshi and hanamiya has so much potential #fujimaki give us info on their middle school i beg of you #imayoshi shouichi #hanamiya makoto #imahana #platonic #imayoshi x hanamiya #but platonically again kinda maybe who knows #kiridai #kirisaki daiichi #kirisaki daichi scenarios #too high #touou high #touou academy #middle school #hcs #headcanons #imagines #scenarios #knb #kuroko no basket #kuroko no basuke #oneshot #knb fanfiction #comrades