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ljf613 · 10 months

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Could you please not put untagged madrigalcest discourse in the encanto tag. Ruined my day again. This is why people put dnis on their stuff. They dont want to interact and be reminded of the rampant underage incest shipping. But yay for pedo bruno hcs

Oooh, Anon hate! I'm not sure I can even remember the last time I got one of these-- I was starting to get a little worried there.

I want to start by saying that tagging etiquette is actually super-important to me, so I want to actually address what Anon is talking about here, point by point.

1) Could you please not put untagged madrigalcest discourse in the encanto tag

Personally, I don't use the #madigalcest tag because I feel that it's overly broad-- what is and isn't considered incest varies widely across countries and cultures, so it's not one size fits all.

I do, however, make sure to tag all of my ship-related posts with the appropriate ship tags, so as long as you have the ships you don't want to see content for filtered out, you shouldn't see it.

But I'm pretty sure this ask is in response to this post I made yesterday-- which literally doesn't mention any ships in it at all, "madrigalcest" or otherwise, so I don't really understand what your complaint here is.

2) Ruined my day again

If seeing random strangers online sharing opinions you don't like ruins your day, I would recommend never using the internet ever.

3) This is why people put dnis on their stuff

Again, I'm assuming this is in response to yesterday's post (linked above), where I said that I really don't like it when people put DNIs in their fanfics, and, in particular, in their fic tags.

My argument there was partially rooted in the fact that tags are there more for the benefit of the reader, not the writer. Tags are intended to give the reader an idea of what to expect, or to allow them to filter out content they don't want to see.

And you, Anon, agree with me on this point. I know you do. That's why you sent me an ask telling me that you wanted me to change my tags-- because those tags are, in part, there for you (and anyone else who reads my posts).

This is why I generally think DNIs are a waste of time-- if there's something that you don't want to see, you are responsible for curating your own online experience. Don't rely on random strangers on the internet to do it for you. (We are not your parents.)

In short, tags are there so readers can decide whether or not that's a fic and/or post they want to see. They are not there so writers can dictate who is and isn't allowed to see their content.

(Once you share something publicly, you have virtually no control over who does and doesn't get to look at it. Imagine if someone published a book at put a large note on the back cover that said, "people who like star wars ARE NOT ALLOWED to read this book." Who on earth would take them seriously?)

4) They dont want to interact

If there's someone you don't want to interact with, block them. I'm fairly certain AO3 now has a block feature.

And again, that's your job. A reader is under no obligation not to look at your content just because you told them not to.

Also, as I mentioned in the tags of yesterday's post: someone you disagree with is not going to contaminate you just by reading words that you wrote.

5) and be reminded of the rampant underage incest shipping

I cannot emphasize this enough: if there is something on the internet that you don't want to see, don't look at it.

6) But yay for pedo bruno hcs

I will repeat again that absolutely nothing in yesterday's post was about shipping, let alone any specific ships (with or without Bruno).

Also, I do feel the need to inform you that I don't actually have any, as you call them, "pedo bruno hcs." Not to mention that I'm fairly certain that you don't actually know what a pedophile is. I recommend doing a bit of research-- a five-second Google search may help. The Wikipedia page on pedophilia might also be a good place to start-- read that first paragraph a couple of times until you're sure that you understand what it says.

Have a nice weekend!

#encanto #thoughts #fandom critical #tagging etiquette #curate your experience #the amount of entitlement it takes to send an ask like this #and sending it anonymously is the coward's way out #it says that you're too ashamed of what you're saying to even admit that you're the one saying it and actually stand by your own words #i've never sent a hateful ask but if i did i would send it with my username attached #tw pedophila mention

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jasontoddssuper · 2 years

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Antonio:Haha yeah i love playing the princess when my family plays pretend with me and wearing dresses and skirts and for some reason i get super happy when people call me a girl but i'm totally cis!I love being only a boy :)

Antonio after Camilo came out as genderfluid:WAIT,THAT'S ALLOWED?!

🚫Madrigal bashers and Madrigalcest shippers dni🚫

#antonio madrigal #camilo madrigal #💌#encanto #letters from summer #what time is it?queue time!#in case anybody is confused:antonio is transfem genderfluid and camilo is transmasc genderfluid but didn't realize the second part until a #bit after the movie

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0mikiartspace0 · 2 years

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Hello, Please call me Miki or Val

I am a Minor so please don't send any weird crap to me

‼️COMMISSIONS: OPEN‼️

To see terms and conditions check the CARRD

My pronouns are They/Them so please Respect it.

I love character designs, concept art, cartoons and playing games.

This is my art blog where I post OC stuff and or eventually lore about my OC's.

DNI Proshippers, Madrigalcest Shippers, People who support MÄRKÄ 180

I hope I can post soon here and also my fan dedicated blog is @ilovedoloresmadrigalblog

This is my ArtFol account

And this is my CARRD vvvv

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caramellahoney · 2 years

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M A S T E R L I S T

DNI : PROSHIPPERS , MADRIGALCEST , RACISTS , ANTI-LGBTQ

Feel free to message me if any of the links are wrong/not working!

CAMILO MADRIGAL ;

PERSONAL FAVES:

“the day hell freezes over..” (link) <𝟯

“I suggest you step back, amigo. Wouldn’t want you to get in the way.” A voice spoke, tone sugar-sweet. Camilo’s eyes met with a familiar annoying shade of brown and he scowled: Santiago De Leon.

PART TWO

“this was it.” (link) <𝟯

When he was fifteen, Camilo promised you that he would marry you one day. Now you were both 23 and he wasn’t one to break a promise.

"future daughter in law" (link) <3

“This night has to be perfect and it’s not perfect! Camilo’s girlfriend is coming over and we have to make this right. What if I accidentally make it rain and she gets mad, she’ll leave Camilo and there won’t be a wedding or grandkids or-or-”

"two birds on a wire." (link)<3

“Never leave me.”

“I never have and never will.”

SHORT STORIES:

“personal hair brush.” (link) <𝟯

"You're the one begging for my affection. I'm your personal hair brush at this point." Camilo let out a breath of air, laughing lightly as he pressed a kiss on the nape of your neck.

“careful!” (link) <𝟯

Camilo was well aware of your clumsy and accident-prone tendencies, and he’d be lying if he said it didn’t worry him to death.

“casate conmigo por favor.” (link) <𝟯

"Cásate conmigo por favor." Those were the words imprinted onto your arm, the first words your soulmate would say to you.

"take my hand, dance with me under the rain." (link) <3

His eyes darted between her form and the rain, an idea popping up in his mind.

“flustered” (link) <𝟯

Camilo was usually the one who swept his lover off their feet, what if they did the same to him?

“soft kiss” (link) <𝟯

“Can I kiss you?” Camilo whispered softly, stepping closer to his partner.

“it's ok, mi vida” (link) <𝟯

Overworked and Stressed reader! Camilo has noticed that you were more fatigued, downbeat, and distressed than usual.

"wait no wait--." (link) <3

Camilo couldn't stop staring at you, maybe it was his overprotective behavior but you looked really cute in his ruana.

“unspoken love” (link) <𝟯

Shy reader! Your eyes were his favorite part of you because those bright orbs held so much unspoken love in them. They spoke all the words that your lips couldn't.

“sunshine boy” (link) <𝟯

You were used to the hushed whispers of people around you. The weary side glances kids would throw at you whenever you passed by. It was hard when everyone only saw the worst on you. Everyone but him, your sunshine boy.

“if I could tell her” (link) <𝟯

Camilo shapeshifts into Mirabel to try and prank you but instead finds out that you like him back. So, disguised as Mirabel, he tells you all the things he wishes he could.

“can you say it again?” (link) <𝟯

Selectively mute! Reader gets mocked and Camilo runs around to make her feel better.

“he wasn’t dreaming” (link) <///3

“Please don’t hurt me like this.” Camilo muttered. GN! Reader moves away because of her father's work.

“ when the sun loves the moon ” (link) <𝟯

Quiet and Introverted reader! ...the sun had noticed how bright the moon glowed. And at that moment, it didn't take a genius to know that the sun loved the moon.

“she sings like a nightingale.” (link) <𝟯

Camilo's breath hitched, he's heard from people that you could sing well but he never actually heard you before. His fingers fumbled on the strings, accidentally playing the wrong tune.

LONGER READS :

"MIRACLE" ; Husband! Dad! Camilo x Reader

PART 1 | PART 2 | PART 3 | PART 4 | PART 5 ; The villagers start running, belongings in hand- holding each other close. Alma looks behind her-terrified. Memories of her past race through her head yet there is no time to reminisce because they had to leave. Right now.

"don't let it slip" (link) <3

Camilo asks his tio Bruno to read his future and finds an interesting vision about him and his lover.

"don't let it slip" PT.2 (link) <3 Bruno tries not to let the secret slip but Dolores is acting a little suspicious during dinner

“listen to the whispers” (link) <///3

Suppressing negative emotions and replacing them with happy thoughts. She listened to his reassurances and drowned herself in his love and affection. However, as the years went by, her resilience grew weak and she found herself feeling more and more disconnected.

“listen to the whispers" PT.2 (link) <3

“ connect-the-freckles. .” (link) <𝟯

You brought your finger up to trace his freckles, an amazing idea popping up in your mind. Connect-the-freckles.

“ connect-the-freckles. ” PT.2 (link) <𝟯

“nice guy” (link) <𝟯

Camilo wasn’t a violent person- he swears. If there was ever a situation where he could talk it out instead of fighting then he would. Or so he thought..?

“nice guy” PT.2 (link) <𝟯

CARLOS MADRIGAL ;

SHORT READS:

“menace” (link) <𝟯

Carlos Madrigal fights for you!

Carlos scoffed and wiped the blood off. Your boyfriend rolled his shoulders and quickly squared up again. "Bring it on, puta."

#;;<3honeywritezz #encanto fanfic

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aries-online · 2 years

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Family

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Pairing: Mirabel x Magical!Reader

Summary:{NAME}, A member of their own magical family, runs away and stumbles upon Encanto, Meeting the madrigal family and their true home

A/N:Readers surname is already chosen, They are a part of My oc's Magical family, The Labelle's. To summarize how they have magic, Each member is gifted a magic item upon joining the family. Readers magic is imbued in a locket. Reader is of french descent. Reader has the ability to control water in all forms as well as walk/stand on water.

Genre:I have no clue how to classify this, Angst?Romance?Family drama?Fluff?

Requested?:Nope

+18 Peeps(Ur walking a fine line)/Proshippers/Madrigalcest enjoyed Dni

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Finally got this shit done lmao

Your feet carried you through the underbrush, Not caring about the thorns dragging along your skin. You were exhausted, and wanted to collapse, but you somehow kept going. "Keep Going, {NAME}" You muttered "Just get out of Irene's range". You reached a river when you finally felt safe enough to collapse, your legs finally giving out as you crossed the other side of the bank. You played there for a moment, a small smile gracing your features before your vision faded out, Sending you off into a deep slumber.

When you started to regain consciousness, you heard hushed whispers around you. You froze up, Did your family find you? You strained your ears to catch onto what they were saying. "Just let them sleep, you saw the state the girls found them in"

Okay so it wasn't your family, that's for sure, But who were they? You presumed that they brought you to their home, whoever's they were. You say up a bit, Rubbing your face, then noticing the lack of your locket. You began to panic, not even caring about the family crowing the small room you were situated in. "Where is it?" You weakly cried, Panic setting in. "Hey,Hey, Its okay calm down" One of the people spoke, their tone comforting. They picked up your locket from the bedside table "Is this what your looking for?" She asked, You snatched it out of her hand. Once you had it back, you quickly put it back on, relaxing once you felt the cool metal against your skin. "Sorry for the scare" The Girl said again, Giving you a small, nervous, Smile. You returned her smile, Only now looking around at the rest of the people in the room. A small crowd of women surrounded you, One of which had a large storm cloud above her head. "Thank God your okay" One of them exclaimed "We found you at the river and we thought you weren't gonna make it". You really didn't have any words, so you said the first thing that came too mind. "Thanks".

It had been a few hours since you awoke and you were briefed in on what had happened after you passed out. The first to find you was Dolores, The one who was so worried about you when you first awoke. Dolores had found you half out of the water and panicked, Luisa had been the one to carry you back to their home. You were a little shaken up, and were definitely confused at your surroundings. Mirabel, the girl the same age as you, had taken on the task of helping you out around Casita. You two grew very close to each other very quickly. Secretly, you were excited to have a friend your age, Seeings as your three sisters, Irene, Chloe and Rosalia, were all several years older then you and your mother wouldn't let you leave the house without any of them.

"So, {NAME}, if you don't mind answering. What's with the necklace?" Mirabel asked. She sat across from you in the old nursery where you were to be sleeping. "Its a long story" you chuckled nervously, Scratching the back of your head. "Hey man, I've got all the time in the world, I'm willing to listen" She Laughed, Raising both hands up in mock surrender. You chuckled along with her "I guess I can tell you" You laughed, Letting your laughter die down before beginning your explanation.

"My Great-Grandmother was the origin of the magic my family was Gifted. She got it shortly after her husband died, Leaving her with an almost adult step-daughter and two toddlers. She prayed to whatever god was out there to end the suffering she felt, She wanted nothing more then to see her husband one last time, and she was granted a gorgeous jewelry set, Seventeen pieces of random jewelry" You explained, Mirabel watched you with wide eyes "You have magic too?" She asked amazed at your statement. You nodded before continuing on "She had given one piece to her step-daughter, One to Her Son and One to her Daughter, My Nana. Each were given a magical power when wearing the jewelry, and my Great-Grandmother, The piece she chose gave her the gift to see the dead. She finally got to see her husband again" You had opened your locket at this point, Smiling at the family portrait in it "This was originally her necklace but it gave me a gift of my own" You explained, Looking at mirabel now. "What is your gift" She asked breathlessly, staring at the locket with wonder. "I can control water in all its forms" you explained, Closing the locket and sheepishly scratching at your neck. "Whoa, that's so cool" She exclaimed, Grabbing ahold of your hands "you gotta show me" She Said, Her voice almost a shout. You winced a bit at the loud noise "Calm down Mira" You winced " I can't do it without there being water around, And plenty of it too" You explained. Mira paused for a moment, before beginning to pull you out of the room again "I know the perfect place"

"Hey, Mamá, I'm taking {NAME} to the river " Mirabel Stated as she pulled you into the living area. "Alright Mirabel, Be back before supper" Julieta Said, Giving her daughter a smile. Something about this little interaction made you feel a tinge of jealousy. Why couldn't your own Mother treat you like this? Dolores poked her head into the room from the doorway "Oh, Could I come along as well Mirabel?" She asked. Mirabel looked towards you, You responded with a little shrug. "Sure, You can totally come along" Mirabel responded. Soon it turned from Just Dolores tagging along to almost the entire family, which set you off a little bit.

When you all reached the river, and everyone spread out along the bank, Mira looked at you with bright eyes. "Can you show me now?" She asked, sitting down beside where you stood. "I guess so" you replied nervously, Taking a few steps forward and into the river. The feeling of the cool water sent a small shiver up your spine, It had been a while since you've been in a body of water. Slowly you began to move your hands out towards the water, Picking up a large ball of water. You nervously showed it off to mirabel, who looked super excited. Her reaction gave you a small sliver of courage, The reaction she gave you had given you the courage to do something you rarely did with your power. You sharply inhaled, closing your eyes and bracing yourself, Before throwing the ball up into the air and fracturing it into tiny droplets. With a wave of your hand, The droplets began to fly around you, Crystallizing into snow as they moved. You moved your foot upwards, letting yourself stand on top of the water. When you opened your eyes again, You found all the madrigals, Minus Alma and Julieta, Watching you with awe. "That was so cool" Mirabel exclaimed, Jumping up and making her way towards the edge of the bank. Your face became hot, shifting your gaze towards your feet "Its really not that special" You replied, shrugging your shoulders. "Wrong" Mirabel stated, Placing her hand on her hips "That was so cool, Its not something one of us can do". You replied with a shrug, Making your way back to the bank, walking on top of the water. "And you can walk on water" Mira Stated, awestruck "If you ask me, That's pretty special"

You were in Encanto for almost a month now, You and Mirabel began dating each other your second week there. You finally felt like you had a home that wanted you there. You took on chores around the house and the village, Helping people to water plants and just to entertain the children. You bonded with the madrigals and the townsfolk, Becoming a regular sight to everyone.

"Mira, Amour" You sighed, Shaking your head slightly at the situation Her and Camilo had gotten into, Helping her pick the cactus thorns from her arms. "Did you two have to Startle Isa like that? Was it really worth it?" You laughed slightly, Plucking the last thorn from her wrist. "And we're done" you stated "But I won't help you if you do it again". "I won't do it again" She laughed, Rolling her eyes "Probably"

After your second month there, You finally had the hopes that maybe, Just maybe, Your family stopped looking for you. You were sorely wrong. On a walk you decided to take with Mirabel before dinner, You heard a crashing coming from the forest around you. You were a little unnerved, this just wasn't something that happened. You two continued to walk, just ignoring the noise, Before you were tackled to the ground by a flying form. "Oh, {Name}, I found you" The girl cried. "Chloe?" You exclaimed, Pushing her off of you. Mirabel helped you up. Chloe had tears filling her eyes as she looked at you, her expression filled with hurt. Before you could speak again, Chloe began to yell in the direction sh became from "Mama, Mama, I found them!".

Your whole family soon poured out of the forest surrounding you. Your Mother, Ebony Labelle, Raced her way towards you, Grasping your face in her hands. "Oh my sweet child" She cooed "Mama missed you my baby". Ebony tried to plaster your face in kisses, But you pulled yourself back. "Why" You asked quietly "Why can't you just let me live my life" Your voice raised to a shout. "I was perfectly fine without you, Why do you have to come back just when I start to feel loved?" Angry tears began to pour as you watched your mother step back in shock. Your oldest sister, Irene, stepped forward in your mother's place "{NAME}, Apologize to mother for shouting at her like that" She commanded, Her tone matching yours in anger. Irene was always a mama's girl. "No" You spat, Your vision hazy from the tears. Mirabel grabbed your hand with hers. "{NAME}, lets go back home" She says, Pulling you towards her. Your sisters anger turned towards your girlfriend. "So your the one who turned her on her family? I can't see what my sibling would find interesting about you" Irene had a malicious smirk on her face "Your So plain looking, And you dress like a child. Your a freak". Irene's words set you off, You began to shout again "No, Irene, Your a freak. Your a kiss-ass who has no life for herself. And Mira gave me something you all could never give me. Unconditional love and respect, Your all Just assholes." You stated, your face turning stony. "Mira let's go" You said to the girl who stood beside you. Your act of defiance set something off in your mother, Who now stepped beside Irene.

"{NAME}, You come here right now" Your mother snarled "How dare you run away from home, From your loving family". Your face twisted into a grimace "Your not my family" You said, Your voice weaker then before "Family wouldn't do what they did". Your words caused her to begin to scream harsh words at you, Your Father stood beside her, placing a hand on her shoulder. "Ebony, Amour, Calm down" He crooned, placing a kiss on the corner of her mouth before turning to you. "{NAME}, Listen to your mother. Your a Labelle, act like it". Hot tears began to flood your eyes once more. you barely could hold it in anymore. Your Girlfriend, Mirabel, Placed her hand on your shoulder, Causing you to jump. You looked at her, then behind you where the rest of the madrigals now stood. "We are here for you, {NAME}" Mirabel whispered, Giving you a soft smile before turning her attention to where your sorry excuse for a family stood.

"How dare you do what you did to them" She stated, Folding her arms in front of her. "Family should be there for each other, Not tear each other down and bully one another" Her tone held a rage you never had seen before. You sniffled slightly as julieta held you comfortingly "Shes right Mother" You spoke "I always looked up to you, Looked to you for love and you turned me away. The only people who even slightly cared were the Nannies you had come in all the time to take care of us". You wiped a tear from your face, Staring into the eyes of your parents "Your not my family anymore, I've finally found a place I feel welcome. I have people who look at me, Not as a trophy or a toy, But as a person. Something you could never do". You let go of julieta, stepping towards where mirabel stood. "Grandmother would be disappointed in you" You stated "Disappointed in all of you" your gaze fell on your other sisters. "Chloe, Rose" You started "I love you two a lot, But I have a place where I can be myself. I hope you two can realize the situation your in isn't good for you and you leave.Like I did" You grab Mirabels hand and you lead her towards the rest of the madrigals, Slowly you all begin to walk back to your home. You pause when Rosaline comes racing towards you, Enveloping you in a hug. "I love you, Little one" She whispers. You reply with a whisper of your own "If you ever want a place of your own I'll be more then happy to help you when that time comes". You let go of your sister, Giving her a small kiss on the cheek before walking back to your true home. The place you always will feel welcome.

#encanto x reader #mirabel x reader #disney mirabel #mirabel madrigal x reader #madrigal #encanto fanfic

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justanisabelakinnie · 2 years

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Hi!

My name is Aisha Bella, and welcome to my sideblog! As you can tell, this is a place to talk about how awesome Isabela is, and to just overall appreciate her, I love Isabela so much and she is my favorite character in Encanto! So I decided to make a blog about her because she deserves more appreciation. My main blog is @thisismisogynoir, but you can PM this blog as well! I also run @princessefemmelesbian.

This is a place to have fun, hate will not be tolerated.

Header was made by @hourglass-dreams.

DNI if:

--You hate Isabela(obviously).

--You are a proshipper/support Madrigalcest.

--You are prejudiced and promote misogynoir, racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, lesbophobia, anti-Semitism, transphobia, etc.

--You are a TERF, a radfem, or a SWERF. All people are welcome here and that includes trans women!

--You sexualize any of the minors in this fandom(or any fandom, or anywhere, for that matter!).

--You villainize any of the female Madrigals.

--You believe in “narcissistic abuse” or otherwise demonize cluster-b personality disorders.

--You support mspec lesbians/gays(lesbians do not like men, gay men do not like women, I thought that was fucking obvious atp but noooo...).

--You think “transandrophobia” is a real fucking thing. It isn’t.

UPDATE AS OF 4/9/2022: If you have a fic that you think I should read(whether you wrote it or not), then feel free to recommend it to me! Please tell me what the fic is about and what I am to look out for before reading in case it gets dark(I can handle dark.). But please DO NOT recommend me fics that are:

--Camilo or Bruno-centric

--Portray Alma as the villain

--Promote incest, pedophilia, and rape

--NSFW/Dead Dove

--Isabela x Male Reader/OC/crossover character

--Demonize ANY of the characters(meaning no villain AU)

--Papa Bruno

--Contain graphic suicide scenes

--Mirabel dies(or that kill off any of the characters)

--Ship Julieta/Agustin, Pepa/Felix, or Dolores/Mariano with literally anybody except their canon pairs.

--Isabela/Mariano(this is an egregious case that deserves a special calling out, I hope I don’t have to explain why)

--M/M

--Stoner AU

If you recommend me these, I literally will just delete your ask/submission and not even give them the time of day. And if you lie to me/mislead me, I will block you.

Enjoy!

#isabela madrigal #encanto #me #dni list #pinned post #read pinned

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ilovedoloresmadrigalblog · 2 years

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The sudden urge to punch and block the people that thought they need to ship the madrigal's together because it's “CuTe” is very strong right now.

#madrigalcest people dni #anti madrigalcest #encanto

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ilovedoloresmadrigalblog · 2 years

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Hello, Please call me Miki or Val and please don't send any weird crap to me. I am a Minor

DNI Proshippers, Madrigalcest Shippers, People who support MÄRKÄ 180

‼️COMMISSIONS: OPEN‼️

To see terms and conditions check the CANVA

Sorry if my grammar is sometimes wrong, English is my second language

My pronouns areThey/Them so please Respect it.

This is a Blog dedicated to my crush on Dolores Madrigal from Encanto

If you have something related about Dolores or something Dolores-centric please share it with me

Also, my art blog is @0mikiartspace0

This is my ArtFol account

And this is my CARRD vvvv

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jasontoddssuper · 2 years

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She/her trans girl Marco,she/they trans woman Isabela and he/they transfem demigirl Luz so true

🚫People who lewd underaged characters like Marco and Luz,Madrigalcest shippers and people who bash any of the Madrigal's dni🚫

@nogender-onlystars

#trans marco #luz noceda #trans luz noceda #toh #isabela madrigal #trans isabela madrigal #encanto #💌#frankie talks

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themountainsays · 2 years

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In regards to post/677028182159949824/i-wonder-how-many-secret-madrigalcest-shippers-are, I wish I could give you all the... safety? of what shipping was like in the 2000's. Like, it wasn't perfect, there were absolutely ship wars, but like, you might have quietly lost some friends, but no one would outright accuse you of being a pedo even if you shipped Sess/rin before yashahime was a sparkle in rumiko takahashis eye. And you couldn't swing a cat without hitting hiitachincest. :(

Ahhh my friends tell me about the old EA fandom and how it was born in a different era. Frozen was my first fandom actually, I was like... 11. And my only portal into the fandom was ff.net so I wasn't really talking to anyone. But the vibe I got was that... idk that things like EA were inevitable, that you couldn't stop people from shipping it and that there was no point in stopping it, and that the best thing you could do was to curate your own experience and blacklist the shit you didn't want to see. Most importantly, other people's ships may seem "gross" to me, but that didn't make them immoral or dangerous people. I could read someone's snow sister fic knowing they also wrote EA and not care. At the very worst, I would think they had bad taste, but also they wrote well so I was going to read their other work anyway. I don't doubt that, in part, that was me being 11 and naïve and thinking that, because it was everywhere and no one said anything about it, it must be cool. I'm not gonna pat 11 y.o me in the back for being so ahead of her time and smarter than twitter poop-talkers lol no I didn't have "critical thinking" I didn't know what I was looking at. I'm just recalling a memory.

The thing is that, as far as I remember, no one really said anything about it? Again, maybe I was just isolated, but I remember like one person saying they didn't like a specific EA fic, and that was kinda it. No one was writing "EA SHIPPERS FUCK OFF DO NOT FUCKING READ MY FICS IF YOU SHIP EA YOU FREAKS" on their author notes or putting "EA FREAKS DO NOT FUCKING INTERACT I WILL GUT YOU LIKE A FISH" on their profiles and no one felt the need to clarify "THIS IS NOT FUCKING INC3ST OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE I NEED TO SAY THAT" at the start if every fic. Folks in the comment section weren't mentioning EA. People would openly admit to shipping EA in the author notes of their snow sisters fics ("Oh, this was originally going to be EA, but I changed my mind because snow sisters fits it better") and no one would care. And I certainly don't remember anyone making cringe ass posts on ff.net that can't even be called stories because they're nothing but long rants about how bad shipcest is and how "I CAN'T BELIEVE I NEED TO BLACKLIST THE INC3ST TAG EVERY TIME I LOG IN" like certain baby-brained weirdos do in the Encant0 ao3 tag do. The Legend Of The Brave Tangled Dragons wiki even had all of these inc3st ship pages anyone could visit and find fanart in! I'm sure some people must have been quite disturbed by inc3st shipping but no one was shoving the discourse down your throat, forcing you to take a stand, posting shit like "dni if you don't have a dni" on their profiles or chasing shippers away and forcing them into isolated communities. The general idea seemed to be that "yeah it's weird and a bit gross but it's rude to judge". Maybe I was lucky enough to avoid the worst parts of the fandom? But idk it felt a lot less... systemic. it felt a lot less cultural. Like disliking a ship was something you did individually and casually, not something you would create a political party around like twitter antis do.

I would have LOVED to see even earlier times tho. I'm sure nostalgia is doing its part and that it wasn't nearly as idyllic as my friends tell me, but it would be nice to not be told to kill myself every day :)

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