#maggie mcgivern

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Maggie McGivern, Paul McCartney and Barry Miles at the Indica Gallery🥀

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#60s icons #girlsofthesixties #maggie mcgivern #paul mccartney #beatles girls #beatles women #barry miles #indica gallery

[sounwise]

“Paul McCartney’s secret love affair” (interview with Maggie McGivern in the Daily Mail, April 12, 1997)

[Full transcript beneath the cut:]

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Millions of words have been written about The Beatles — but little, if anything, is known of a girl called Maggie McGivern.

Yet now it can be revealed for the first time that she is the woman who had a secret affair with Paul McCartney for more than three years.

They were the years songs such as Paperback Writer, Strawberry Fields Forever and All You Need Is Love were enchanting the world.

More pertinently they included the years in which he had his relationship with actress Jane Asher, and when he met the woman who would become Linda McCartney.

The saga begins early in 1966 when Maggie was working as a nanny for Marianne Faithfull and her husband, John Dunbar, a Cambridge graduate and artist.

Their son, Nicholas, had been born the previous November. Marianne had a third-floor flat in Chelsea, in the heart of what was then Swinging London, the capital city of the Sixties. For more than three years The Beatles had been storming the pop charts — and society.

Help! was the sensation of the previous summer and the double-sided Day Tripper/We Can Work It Out was in the charts. Beatlemania was everywhere and Maggie, through her new job, would quickly get used to rubbing shoulders with the famous.

One day when the buzzer rang on the intercom for the flat, she didn’t recognise the voice from the ground floor. The young man asked if John was around. ‘Who is it?’ said Maggie. ‘Paul McCartney,’ said the voice. ‘Oh — come up . . .’

‘Paul ran up the stairs and came in,’ she recalls. ‘Very casually I told him John wasn’t really in — and that sent us both into hysterics. We were laughing and chatting.

‘I had made a nice lunch for Marianne and a bunch of her friends but they never showed up. Paul and I sat together and ate it instead. I’ll never forget the meal — it was chicken casserole. It was such a funny introduction that it threw us both off guard. It could have been very embarrassing, but there was an immediate rapport and we just couldn’t stop talking.’

Maggie, whose once-dark hair is now dyed honey-blonde, told how she and Paul became closer in the months that followed, even though they each had a separate relationship.

Maggie had a photographer boyfriend and McCartney was seeing a pretty young actress called Jane Asher, living for a time in her parents’ house before she moved in with him.

‘It was a gradual thing,’ says Maggie. ‘From that point on Paul kept coming up to the flat. He was very good friends with John but I knew he was coming to see me.

‘He would ring and ask if anyone was there and if there wasn’t, he would come up. We used to talk about lots of things but it was obvious to both of us that our other relationships were not going well.’

It took six months before their association, as Maggie puts it, turned from friendship to love. The Beatles had been recording their Revolver album, released at the end of summer 1966.

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One evening McCartney, John Dunbar and some friends returned from Paris with some demo tapes of the album and played them for Maggie. ‘There was something in the air that night and that’s how it all started,’ she says. ‘He ended up staying the night and we went to bed. It was wonderful.

‘The next morning was one of the most previous moments of my life. We didn’t say much but it was such a tranquil, pleasant feeling — made all the more so because we left things unsaid. He stayed with me until lunchtime and we chatted and larked about. Everything with Paul was so natural. From that moment on he used to come around regularly.’

By this stage The Beatles had stopped doing live performances and tours but McCartney was putting just as much effort into recording. Maggie was frequently abroad on modelling assignments.

‘When we were having our love affair, I hardly phoned him,’ she says. ‘He used to find me wherever I was, and that was fine as far as I was concerned. He did tell me that Jane Asher had moved in with him at his house in St John’s Wood and I remember saying that it meant nothing to me.

‘Throughout the relationship I never pursued him — I just didn’t think about him having other women. My view on relationships has always been that if something works, it works. If it’s meant to be, let it be. Besides which, I had a busy life, and I was very busy living it.

‘Our relationship was a secret from day one, at first because we didn’t want Jane to find out, and later because we preferred it like that. We hardly ever went to parties. We would occasionally go to restaurants but normally we’d walk his dogs in Regent’s Park or go for drives in the country.

‘We craved isolation and I for one did not want to become an overnight superstar — I certainly wasn’t ready for that emotionally.’

Secrecy, of course, was vital for the continued success of their relationship. Maggie, who now lives in Brighton and works as a rollerblade instructor, says: ‘I don’t believe celebrities when they say they can’t keep affairs secret. We managed it quite well for more than three years.’

She described a trip to Paris in 1966 with John Lennon and The Beatles’ manager, Brian Epstein. All of them flew into France separately — Lennon had been filming abroad and Epstein had been away on business. Maggie and Paul, she says, traveled apart ‘as part of keeping the relationship secret’. During the five-day trip the foursome stayed at the same Paris hotel where she and Paul shared a luxury suite. ‘It was a marvelous holiday,’ she says. ‘. . . just walking around the streets of Paris.

‘My abiding memory is of me, John and Paul lying under the Eiffel Tower, gazing up at it. We couldn’t go up because we would have been recognised, and we were masters at the art of avoiding people.

‘Throughout the relationship we never met in obvious places. We would go to places like auction rooms in South Kensington, and say “whoops — fancy meeting you here”.’

By this point, Maggie saw Paul as a permanent fixture in her life, but gave no serious thought to marriage or children.

Maggie was 20 and McCartney 23 when they met. At the time, she says, she had no conception of the enormity of the scene in which she was involved. ‘I know it really sounds strange but I didn’t really regard it as a big deal. They were mad times and the world was changing. People look back on it now as an era — but all we were doing was living in it.

‘I knew in my heart that Paul was a real family man — when I was working at Marianne’s we used to spend hours just looking at little Nicholas. It was obvious Paul wanted children but, at that stage, I was in no way ready for it. I was a free spirit.’

Maggie worked for Marianne and John for about 18 months before leaving to set up an antiques stall in Chelsea Market. Even without that direct line to the famous, however, she still saw a great deal of McCartney.

She had a shared flat in Chelsea, but she was still busy modelling, and had appeared as an extra in films, including Blow-Up, which was released in 1966.

At one stage, she says, Paul had wanted her to be a chorus girl in The Beatles’ production of Magical Mystery Tour, which was screened on TV over Christmas 1967, but he couldn’t locate her and chose another girl, also called Maggie.

By now their relationship was becoming serious, she says: ‘By this time he knew that I was in love with him, and I knew he loved me, too.

‘I never told any friends that we were seeing each other — that was an unspoken rule. My mum and dad knew, but not in any detail.

‘I used to spend many nights at his house in St John’s Wood. It was a beautiful Regency house, and his garden was full of Alice In Wonderland characters built in stone. We spent many romantic times there. At the end of the garden was a glass-topped, circular, domed building where we meditated. I’ll never forget the first time he showed me that place.

‘We went inside the dome and he told me to stand on the floor. Suddenly, the floor started rising and there I was, up in the air, looking at the stars. After that we used to spend a lot of time together on the raised platform looking at the stars.

‘That’s what it was like, you see. By the time he and The Beatles were into the Maharishi and that whole scene, so was I — there were amazing parallels in our personalities.’

One day the couple went to the Indica Gallery in London with a group of showbiz friends, where John Lennon met Yoko Ono.

‘We spent more time with John and than we did with George and Ringo — we hardly saw them at all.’

In the summer of 1968, McCartney’s engagement to Jane Asher ended. Later, it emerged that she had arrived back at their house to find him with another woman — not Maggie, but an American called Francie Schwartz.

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Maggie says: ‘By September 1968 I had rented a flat on my own in Fawcett Street, Chelsea. I really wanted to live alone. I hadn’t been there long when one day I got a telegram at my flat from Paul. It said: “Flying to the sun. Car picking you up at 8pm. Love Paul.”

‘I was so excited because I had no idea where we were going. A car drew up and we went to pick up Paul at St John’s Wood. As he came out he took an Instamatic camera from a fan, who was camped outside his house, and told us he was borrowing it to take on holiday.

‘Paul had hired a private jet so no one would spot us. There was a proper lounge, no rows of seats — we were drinking champagne and laughing and joking with a male cousin of Paul, and his American girlfriend. I kept asking him where we were going, but he refused to tell me.’

The plane landed in Sardinia but Maggie had no idea where she was until she spotted a sign. They had a hotel suite overlooking the ocean.

Much of their time was spent in restaurants where, she says, they were ‘treated like royalty’. At one banquet in their honour, they walked into a room full of women dressed in ballgowns. Maggie had a T-shirt dress. ‘Paul and I just collapsed in giggles,’ she says. ‘We thought it was hilarious.’

Most of their time, however, was spent on the golden sands. Indeed, while they were on the beach, two things happened which changed the course of their relationship.

First, they were spotted by a photographer — a picture of them together appeared in a Sunday newspaper back home. The report described her as his ‘new girlfriend’.

Maggie confirmed that they had been going out together — and suddenly the world knew of their secret liaison.

More significantly, perhaps, it may have changed the way they viewed themselves.

Maggie explains: ‘We were lying on the beach just being young and in love. Paul turned to me, smiling, and out of the blue he just said: “Have you ever thought about getting married?”

‘I said: “Yes, I suppose, one day . . .” and I thought nothing more of it. Looking back, it was obviously the wrong answer. When I said “one day” I meant in six months, maybe, but not never.

‘But Paul was always slightly insecure and probably saw me as such a free spirit that he thought I was never going to settle down.

‘On the journey home we were singing Those Were The Days and falling around laughing. I went back to Paul’s house with him — I distinctly remember waltzing around the room with him.’

Paul and Maggie continued to see each other in the following months but the subject of marriage was never mentioned again, she says.

‘I suppose I assumed we would end up together but at the time I was just enjoying it all. In the Sixties there was so much going on that I didn’t have time to sit and think about the future. I suppose that, with the pressures of fame, Paul was craving security.’

He would find it, it transpired, with an American blonde called Linda Eastman.

Maggie says: ‘One day, a little while after we returned from Sardinia, I rang Paul — and Linda answered the phone. I had seen a newspaper story about him having lunch with her before that, but I wasn’t the type to ask questions or get jealous.

‘I remember Paul telling Linda to get off the phone and I asked him who she was and what was happening. He said: “I don’t know the scene, man. I don’t know what’s going on.” ’

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By late 1968 and 1969, The Beatles had massively increased the following of the Flower Power and hippie movement in Britain. It was a time of freedom, free love, drugs and music.

But for McCartney it was also, it seems, a time of emotional confusion.

Maggie remembers McCartney arriving at her flat late one night. ‘He was really down and I couldn’t seem to get a word out of him,’ she says. ‘He was crying and I knew he had been stressed. I stood and held him and asked him to tell me what was wrong. Then suddenly he jumped up and he said he had to go. Somehow I knew when I closed the door that night I wouldn’t see him again.’

A couple of days later she was walking along the King’s Road when she noticed four words on a newspaper billboard: ‘Paul and Linda marry.’

‘My heart just thumped,’ she says. ‘I couldn’t believe it. He never told me he was getting married and he never told me our relationship was over. I didn’t contact him for ages. I had never pursued him and I wasn’t going to start then.

‘Not many people knew we were going out together in the first place so there was no point in telling them it was over. Obviously, I told my mum and dad but not even they knew the depths of my suffering and depression.

‘Looking back, I think I was in serious shock and it didn’t come out properly until years later.’

Until yesterday, Maggie has never felt able to discuss her true feelings about the relationship and the separation. The remarkable story emerged only after her mother, Evelyn, confirmed details to the Daily Mail.

Maggie agreed to speak only reluctantly — she said she would always care for Paul, and desperately wants to avoid upsetting him and his wife Linda, who is fighting cancer.

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Subsequently Maggie started a relationship with rock musician Denny Laine and it was through him, after he joined McCartney’s group Wings, that she saw Paul again, in 1971 or 1972.

‘It was a very emotional meeting and we had a great big hug. We were standing there gripping each other when there was a tap on his shoulder. We turned around and it was Linda. Paul told her who I was and she said she had heard about me. There was, of course, an unfriendly atmosphere and we didn’t get a chance to have a real conversation.’

The next time Maggie ran into Paul she was seeing her husband-to-be, Mel Collins, whom she married in 1974 after falling pregnant with their daughter, Naiama. This meeting was also difficult, she says. ‘There were a lot of sarcastic comments towards me.’

Six years passed before she saw him again. Maggie was shopping with her daughter at Harvey Nichols in London when she decided to try on a designer dress.

‘I was looking at myself in the mirror when a voice said: “That looks great.” It was Paul . . . he was buying Christmas presents for Linda. We got talking for a little while and then just said our goodbyes. We never discussed the relationship or anything like that.’

It was only at a later meeting, at a film studio in 1984, that she remembers rediscovering some of their earlier rapport. But it vanished when Linda appeared. Maggie says: ‘Paul’s whole demeanor changed — he’s a different person when he’s with her.

‘But, to give Linda credit, although we were still uneasy we chatted quite amiably about horses and things like that. I suppose after years of marriage and several children, there was no need for any nastiness.’

That was the last time Maggie saw McCartney, but she admits to thinking about him almost daily.

‘Marriage? I’m the type to move on and live my life and not regret anything,’ she says, ‘but obviously I still feel the pain. I kick myself for that day on the beach in Sardinia.’

#nothing really new vs what's on the beatles girls website but i wanted a copy of the original interview #huge shoutout to the friend who obligingly fished this out of the daily mail historical archive for me!!! the real mvp #endlessly fascinated by mcgivern potentially being the only girlfriend of paul's that john didn't terrorize #(unless she just didn't mention this ofc which is certainly possible but idk idk the way she mentions john feels pretty relaxed) #also she comes across as simultaneously so chill and self-possessed what a cool lady #paul mccartney #maggie mcgivern #john lennon #linda mccartney #the beatles #the daily mail #paul and maggie mcgivern #1997 #1966 #1969 #eta lmao just noticed that the daily mail labeled that first photo as 'with peter asher' THAT'S BARRY MILES LADS #scans

[beatlepaul4ever]

#paul mccartney #being slutty #jane asher #linda eastman #francie schwartz #maggie mcgivern

[strawberrifieldseternal]

I made a Paul McCartney relationship timeline after checking out several sources. And oh my God it was exhausting. Also I could not find enough info about Graciela Borges and she refuses to give out much info outside of the fact that she had a romantic encounter with Paul so take that with a grain of salt. I also couldn’t find much info on Elizabeth Aronsson. The rest is pretty spot on. Keep in mind too, I’m also including rebounds, flings, and friends with benefits, not just serious romantic relationships. Do I have a too much time in my hands? Yes. 😂 But so did Paul apparently lmao

Link of the overall list

https://www.ranker.com/list/paul-mccartney-loves-and-hookups/celebrityhookups

Layla/Julie Arthur

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_Paul_McCartney

Dot Rhone

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/12/paul-mccartneys-first-girlfriend/

Erika Hübers

https://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/hubers.html

Iris Caldwell

https://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/caldwell.html

Sandra Cogan

https://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/sancar.html

Thelma Pickles

https://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/thelma.html

Anita Cochrane

https://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/anita.html

Jane Asher

Jill Haworth

http://www.meetthebeatlesforreal.com/2012/09/the-truth-abotu-my-romance-with-beatle.html?m=1

Peggy Lipton

https://what-about-the-beatles.tumblr.com/post/13376391504

Gloria Mackh

 https://truthaboutthebeatlesgirls.tumblr.com/post/79309032493/gloria-mackh-and-the-beatles-in-obertauern

Julie Felix

https://www.independent.com/2020/04/16/julie-ann-felix-1938-2020/?amp=1

Maggie McGivern

https://sentstarr.tripod.com/beatgirls/mcgiv.html

Elizabeth Aronsson

http://www.meetthebeatlesforreal.com/2010/02/paul-and-companion-in-1967.html?m=1

Francie Schwartz

Winona Williams

https://publicism.info/biography/mccartney/23.html

Linda McCartney

Graciela Borges

https://mubi.com/cast/graciela-borges

Heather Mills

Christie Brinkley

https://amp.extratv.com/2007/08/13/paul-mccartney-and-christie-brinkley-new-couple/

Sabrina Guiness

https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/slideshows/celebrity-easter-photos-how-stars-celebrated-the-holiday/

Elle McPherson/Renée Zellweger

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-480105/Elle-Macpherson-joins-Sir-Pauls-lonely-hearts-club.html

Rosanna Arquette

https://people.com/celebrity/paul-mccartney-steps-out-with-rosanna-arquette/?amp=true

Nancy Shevell

#the beatles #paul mccartney #the bachelor beatle #paul is a hoe #lmao #paul mccartney relationship drama #maggie mcgivern #linda eastman #dot rhone #iris caldwell #heather mills #jane asher #sandra cogan

[phoneybeatlemania]

do you think paul would’ve married mcgivern had she been slightly more positive towards the idea? her story always confused me cause like. we know linda didn’t want marriage but paul pressed anyway. so why did paul let it go with her?

Hiya anon, thanks for the ask!

I think one thing to consider is that Lindas pregnancy with Mary in-all-likelihood factored into their decision to marry. Not saying it's the only reason they married, but given that Linda was in her early stages of pregnancy at the time, it probably prompted the two to tie the knot. Perhaps the same would have been true had McGivern got pregnant in '68.

McGivern has discussed though Pauls subtle marriage proposition, during one of their holidays:

"We were lying on the beach just being young and in love. Paul turned to me, smiling, and out of the blue he just said: ‘Have you ever thought about getting married?’. I said, ‘yes, I suppose, one day...’ and I thought nothing more of it. Looking back, it was obviously the wrong answer. When I said one day I I meant in six months, maybe, but not never. But Paul was always slightly insecure and probably saw me as such a free spirit that he thought I was never going to settle down...I suppose I assumed that we would end up together but at the time I was just enjoying it all. In the 'Sixties there was just so much going on that I didn't have time to sit and think about the future. I suppose that, with the pressures of fame, Paul was craving security." (x)

I do think its possible that had McGivern taken more of an interest in marriage at the time, Paul might have become more serious about the idea too. But I suppose with Linda there was firstly the obvious incentive to marry (baby in the oven), and secondly more of a commitment to her from early on given that he became apart of Heathers life fairly early on.

#maggie mcgivern #pauls psyche #asks #anon #paul and linda

[quacka-quacka]

Love your blog! I’m kinda new so if you answered this already I’m sorry! Okay, so how honest is Paul when he says that he only spent one night(or week?) apart from Linda? I recall a couple of instances where Jane ran into Paul after their split and Maggie McGivern ran into Paul during the holidays? Is it just an image he’s trying to keep? Thank you! :)

Yeah, he said several times that he and Linda never spent a single night apart except for one enforced absence (the Japanese imprisonment), which is hard to believe. I also doubt its truthfulness but evidence hard enough to disprove it haven't popped up, yet. He did run into Jane and Maggie years later but neither of these two encounters suggested anything beyond short exchanges. The closest thing I've ever found is a rumor that there were a couple of occasions during the marriage when Linda took flight from Paul after one of their rows and returned a couple of days later, though it cannot be proved, I guess.

Whether it's true or not, the thing for sure is that Paul is not unaware of the perfect marriage image that emerge to the public. On the contrary, he is the one - not the media who tried hard to push it until he started his second and third marriage.

#paul mccartney #linda mccartney #jane asher #maggie mcgivern

[crepesuzette2023]

Hello! A slightly different fic rec question if you don’t mind

Who are your fave authors and what do you think are their most underrated fics?

I don't mind at all; I think it's a wonderful ask! ('Most underrated' is both somewhat subjective and relative, of course. Still:)

@stonedlennon: ode to the silver beetles (A conversation between Jim and Mimi. A glass of milk, Mr. McCartney?)

@scurator: Un Interludio (everyone loves Pringo in "Where the Sailors Go," but what about John/ Ringo in Spain, '66...? That's right.)

@pauls1967moustache: When you kiss my lips, I'll get a thrill to my fingertips (Paul/Ringo during the first US Tour; John is busy with Cyn and Paul is overthinking, until...) • Still Mates (Paul/Peter Asher in '68) • Aninut (The Beatles deal with Brian's death).

@dailyhowl: I'm With You (John/Stu, early days, with letters & hot sex!) • Be It Fahrenheit or Centigrade (Paul/Stu) • Crawling to the Car (Paris; 1966. John, Brian, Paul, Maggie McGivern, original male character with dark furry thighs)

@pie-of-flames: In the Night Garden (John/Paul; they trip in '67 and there is no angst, only...sympathetic trees)

@eveepe: Drop Like A Stone (Jane/Linda is what we need; go mount some Margrittes, Paul)

@midchelle: Tell me all my love's in vain (Pattie/Maureen, 1964-1974)

@savageandwise: Red Light, Green Lights, Strawberry Wine (Paul/Linda/Denny in New Orleans, with J/P in the background; Linda POV)

@aquarianshift: On the Avenue (George/Bob Dylan) • How I Was Robert McNamara'd Into Submission (Paul/John/Cyn, sex pollen) • There Once Was a Band From the Sixties (Limericks; with @ilovedig)

@javelinbk: Fair's fair (1964, a helping hand after escalating press conference thigh groping; I hope this is an accurate summary...this one is actually very warm and sweet!)

@bluewater9: Secret Passages (The Lennon McCartney children find naughty homemade movies at Cavendish)

@beatlessideblog: What You See Is Me (I Need You Darlin' extra; Jim's view on John and Paul's bond)

I hope there is something new for you here!

#fic recs #asks #underrated fic recs #mclennon #Paul/Denny/Linda #Mo/Pattie #Jane/Linda #John/Cynthia/Paul #George/Bob Dylan #dylarrison #jim mccartney #lennstarr #pringo #beatles fanfiction #Paul/Peter Asher #brian epstein #John/Brian #Paul/Stu #John/Stu

[ceofjohnlennon]

"'They would bounce off each other,' said Maggie McGivern, who got to know both John and Paul well later in the decade. 'Their perceptions were different — Paul was softer and John sharper but they could change roles. They were so intertwined and so tight on so many differ-ent levels. There was a mutual admiration but it was always marked by who was going to give in first.'"

ㅡ From the book "Meet The Beatles" by Steven D. Stark.

This reminded me of Klaus Voormann's drawing of John and Paul at EMI Studio in 1966. "Who was going to give in first", they said.

#john lennon #paul mccartney #the beatles #60s #lennon mccartney #meet the beatles #steven d stark #my:read

[illleavemymessageinmysong]

By Dawn’s First Light I’ll Come Back To Your Room Again

In his book, ‘Paul McCartney The Lyrics’, he’s possibly most coy when discussing ‘I’m Carrying’. He mentions a few theories, none of which seem to be reflected in the lyrics, but leaves the meaning open. As is his right. Fun to leave things a bit enigmatic sometimes.

Author, PR and Beatles Liverpool buddy Billy Harry is more definitive in his book ‘The Paul McCartney Encyclopedia’ when he says that the track was “inspired by a former girlfriend of Paul’s”.

If true, there’s more than a few candidates from the 60s. I’ve seen Maggie McGivern suggested. Could be, who knows.

Or…does that line “by dawn’s first light I’ll come back to your room again”, evoke Paul and Jane’s time living with Jane’s family at 57 Wimpole Street, London?

A tall building, Paul had a room at the top, next door to Peter Asher. Jane and her sister Clare had rooms on the floor below.

In her novel, ‘Losing It’, Jane possibly gives away how things worked for Paul and herself when living under her parents’ roof. A character describes how her boyfriend used to stay at her parents’ house:

In her book ‘Fly Away Paul’, Lesley-Ann Jones. discusses ‘I’m Carrying’. This author had previously started work on what was to be a ghost-written autobiography of Linda but it was nixed (Lesley-Ann thinks Paul vetoed it). Anyway, talking about ‘I’m Carrying” she says:

“No, Paul said, he didn’t write it for Linda. He is supposed to have written it about a lover from another life. Jane Asher? Did he still think about her? Were there still thoughts and regrets unresolved?

”He writes about what he writes about”, shrugged Linda when I asked her. He’s got to have levels inside him where I don’t fit, just as I have where he doesn’t. None of us can deny our past. That would be stupid. We certainly never set out to.”

Elsewhere in his lyrics book, Paul recounts this incident:

“Many years later, long after we had lived together in St John’s Wood, I ran into her when I was going to a doctor on Wimpole Street. I’d been walking down the street from Marylebone, and I passed the house and thought, “Wow, great memories there”. Then I went further down the street to where my doctor was, and I was just pressing the bell when I sensed someone behind me. I turned around, and it was Jane. I said, ‘Oh my God. I was just thinking about you and the house.’ That was the last time I saw her, but the memories don’t fade.”

#Paul McCartney #Paul McCartney Lyrics #I’m Carrying #Jane Asher #57 Wimpole Street

[pennielane]

yessssss talk about maggie mcgivern please i need to know your thoughts about paul proposing to her

all right, i'll bite

to me, maggie mcgivern is both super interesting and sort-of annoying. she's interesting because paul seemed to really like her, and john seemed to tolerate her?????

however, i think her 1997 exposé-esque interview was............annoying. the most annoying part to me was her implying that if only she had said yes to paul's extremely-non-proposal-proposal to her (instead of saying "maybe one day"), they would have gotten married. if we all remember correctly, paul posed the same feeling-it-out question to linda (i cannot for the life of me find the source but it must've been something like the barry miles interview) where he essentially was like "what do you think about marriage?" (or perhaps even stronger wording than that?) and linda literally went "LOL yeah no". and yet in the face of that rejection he still "formally" proposed to linda later on (yes yes i recognize that linda being pregnant with mary at least partially influenced the formal proposal)

my point being, maggie's 1997 interview made it seem like she and paul were the loves of each other's lives, and if only she had answered one question “correctly”, they would have rode off into the sunset together. however, the reality of the situation was that maggie was one of many girls paul had on rotation during that time, and in the end, he chose linda. if he really wanted to pursue maggie, i don't think one lukewarm answer to one question would have stopped him.

#i probably have more to say on the subject but i'll leave it at this for now #also her whole 'i dont want this interview to upset paul and linda while she's terminally ill with cancer' yet still proceeding with the- #-interview was....a choice #anon #ask #the beatles

[no-reply95]

Am I the only one fascinated by the Paul - Maggie - John dynamic?

So Maggie McGivern was Paul’s secret girlfriend from 1966-69 (I think) and she’s given some interviews about her time with Paul where she mentions how, of all the Beatles, they spent the most time with John, as evidenced by the secret trip to Paris they took in 1966, while John was filming How I Won The War.

By all accounts, John really liked Maggie, which checks out with Paul and Maggie spending so much time with him, I’m just curious as to why that was. Wouldn’t John have preferred it if Paul had just left Maggie at home and come by himself so they could recreate their 1961 Paris trip (with Mal and Brian off somewhere in the background)? It just seems a bit odd that John got on well with Maggie but when Linda crops up and, at that stage, it isn’t obvious that she’s more than a passing fling, he doesn’t seem to be as chill? Maybe it’s the proximity of Linda appearing on the scene to India? But even then John had been weird with Paul’s girlfriends/flings going back to the early days so I just wonder why Maggie was one of the few exceptions to the rule…

#the beatles #paul mccartney #john lennon #maggie mcgivern #john and paul #paul and maggie #starting a petition to get maggie to drop her memoirs #i don’t think many people were aware of that trip until she mentioned it #i wonder what else she witnessed that we’re still not aware of #random thoughts

[serenade-meow]

Paul’s reaction was more complicated. Like George, he was deeply hurt by John’s implicit rejection of everything they had built as a group. Yet he desperately wanted to keep the Beatles together. Whereas two years earlier it had been John who couldn’t possibly envision life beyond the band, now mid 1968 it was Paul’s turn to feel the same. Paul was also very jealous of John’s romance according to friends such as Maggie McGivern, a girlfriend of Paul’s at the time (unbeknownst to the public). “John was in love and happy,” she said. “Paul wasn’t happy at all.” His own relationship was crumbling. Paul and Jane had become engaged at the end of 1967, but that marked the beginning of the end of their relationship. Paul still didn’t approve of Jane’s having a full-time career. Besides acquaintances said Jane never liked a number of Paul’s friends — especially the ones who join him in his drug taking, of which she disapproved... For Paul, who seemed to panic at the thought of being without a girlfriend, the breakup with Jane was yet another blow at time when he had both to deal with John and Yoko and try to (at least as he saw it) to keep the group going the wake of Brian’s death. “He was desperate to settle down,” said Maggie McGivern. “He was terribly lost—he needed that foothold of security. He kept saying about the group, ‘I feel I’ve done everything I can do. Where do we go from here?’"

Meet the Beatles: A Cultural History of the Band That Shook Youth, Gender, and the World

#jealous paul #I'm just a jealous guy #quotes #Maggie mcgivern #1968 #rough year #I wouldn't say John was exactly happy tho #they both needed so much therapy that year

[beatleskinkmeme]

AU where after Paul and Linda fight the night before their wedding, instead of going to Maggie McGivern for comfort, Paul goes to see John.

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#prompts #mclennon #john and paul #john #paul #au #linda

[quacka-quacka]

Paul's taste in women

Blonde/Redhead

Paul is not the clean chap he wants the world to see, his love of blonde women and his general dislike of the crowds are not told.

— Jimmie Nicol

No doubt Paul is obsessed with blonde. It fits his sexual fantasy of Brigitte Bardot that in his official biography, he didn't say anything about his Liverpool steady girlfriend Dot Rhone but her being a blonde. Recently I nearly mistaken a picture of Nancy for Heather Mills because she dyed her hair blonde, too.

Although Paul doesn't have redheaded girlfriend other than Jane Asher, he seems quite fascinated by it. In 2007 he asked 16 dancers wearing red wigs in his music video.

I met Jane Asher when she was sent by the Radio Times to cover a concert we were in at the Royal Albert Hall - we had a photo taken with her for the magazine and we all fancied her. We'd thought she was blonde, because we had only ever seen her on black-and-white telly doing Juke Box Jury, but she turned out to be a redhead. So it was: 'Wow, you're a redhead!' I tried pulling her, succeeded, and we were boyfriend and girlfriend for quite a long time.

— Paul McCartney, The Beatles Anthology

Big Breast

Paul loves curvy women.

Lean Face

Contrary to typical straight men's taste as the first two, Paul doesn't seem to like womanly looks. After his early exploration (Dot, Iris, Jane), most of girls he dates are bland, lean-faced ones, sometimes looks like a man.

Dot Rhone, Iris Caldwell, Jane Asher

Francie Schwartz and Maggie McGivern

Peggy Lipton and Linda

Nancy Shevell and Heather Mills

Tall

Jane 5′ 6″

Linda 5′ 9″

Heather 5′ 8″

Nancy 5′ 10″

He doesn't like short ones.

If there’s anything to add, it’s his obsession with hairy armpits.

#paul mccartney #dot rhone #iris caldwell #jane asher #maggie mcgivern #peggy lipton #linda mccartney #francie schwartz #heather mills #nancy shevell

[crepesuzette2023]

Hello! I loved your Brian lives fic. Do you have any other recs of fics featuring Brian?

Thank you for reading my story, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

And thank you for your questions, which sent me back to re-read some Brian-centered favorites, and also helped me find some new ones.

[as I'm doing unspeakable things to my fingernails awaiting @scurator's Brian/Paul/John story...]

Here are fics featuring Brian (preferably front and center, or looming large in absence) that I enjoyed a lot: Brian and the Boys:

We Happy Few (Selena). One of my favorite stories. Brian’s love for each of the Beatles. • a bottle of milk and some tranqulizers (Naraht). What if Brian were a character in AHDN? Short, with a very nice ending.

Brian and John:

Irrevocable Condition (@dailyhowl). John and Brian are together, free bohemians rising to the top • Crawling to the Car (@dailyhowl). Fantastic fractured impressionistic story set during the 1966 Paris trip with Brian, John, Paul, and Maggie McGivern. It’s about the snapshots in Paul’s camera, John’s loneliness, John and Brian’s almost love that is love, and the tether between John and Paul. • Formby Sands (Naraht). 1962. Brian dives into the cold waves. John watches and warms him up. Mismatching love, blue lips, and shivers.

Barcelona:

The Birds in the Sky Would be Sad and Lonely (@dailyhowl). The trip from John’s anxious, angry, messy point of view. I like that John wants Brian; dares to go further with him that with Stu or Paul. • From Barcelona to Santa Cruz (thinkpink20). John and Paul talk after Barcelona. Let the misunderstandings begin. • Barcelona (Selena). Paul and Astrid talk in Tenerife, or try to. Paul refuses to admit what’s bothering him. Very interesting perspectives.

Brian and John/Paul:

Nothing Mr. Epstein Can Do (@dailyhowl). Musings about John and Paul. ‘Brian wonders if he could consider himself the love child of their psyches.’  • Blue Christmas (@theoldmixer). My ‘Brian lives AU’ 2023 Secret Santa prompt twin! In this version, Brian acts as J/P matchmaker during the 1968 Christmas Party. He is handling things like a true professional.

Brian and Paul:

Managing Expectations (@pauls1967moustache). Paul is unsettled because he can’t tell where he begins and John ends. Brian is the obvious person to help. A psychosexual collision (and, as always with moeexyz, an A++ character study).

Brian and George:

Evasion (quietprofanity). The story is really about all of the Beatles, with Brian at the center and a very unhealthy John [who redeems himself] and some interesting Paul/George, but the most interesting throughline, to me, was George and Brian: from the moment Clive Epstein mistakes George for one of Brian’s flings to their beautiful night together. • The Rent Boy Misunderstanding (@ilovedig). George and Brian in the car, after Clive jumped to the wrong conclusions.

Brian and Andrew Loog Oldham: A guy who really knows his way around (Naraht). Brian meets a very young Andrew, and is suitably amused and intrigued. I loved Brian’s smooth POV.

Brian and Alistair Taylor: Another Kind of Love (Naraht). For once, “I loved him, but not like that” feels believable. Worth it for the growling Alistair vs. Peter Brown raising of the hackles alone.

#asks #fic recs #Brian fic recs #including some: #mclennon #mcharrison #brian epstein #beatles fic