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blood-orange-juice · 8 months

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So.

Why I think Sandrone might be Mary-Ann Guillotin. Spoilers for Fontaine side quests.

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Smoke and mirrors

As we have noticed in Liyue, Inazuma and Sumeru (and to an extent in Mondstadt) we do not normally *see* Harbingers until they appear for the final act, only the mechanisms they set in motion.

(Childe is an outlier and it's not like he's done anything productive yet)

Also most of Harbingers' lore so far has been dropped through things in the overworld (Signora's and Scaramouche's stories are in artifact sets, and Dottore's research notes are all over Sumeru). Somehow we have nothing on Arle's and Sandrone's backgrounds so far, which means we likely have something and we just don't know it yet.

Also Arlecchino is all over the plot, so I assume the important Harbinger in this chapter is Sandrone, everything else is an entertaining show to distract us. If she only appears in the final act, it would make sense if her exposition is done through lore tidbits scattered across the map.

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Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Now another angle.

I'm almost sure that the contradictory verdict is caused by a certain someone's connection to the Primordial sea. (I'll eat my HoD artifact set if it's not. not like it's a good set but eh)

So whoever framed that certain someone needs to: 1. Know how the Oratrice works (either an engineering genius or they know an engineering genius) 2. Know about the Primordial sea and the Abyss (a gentle reminder that Vaucher knew about its properties through Jakob) 3. Have a motive

Idk, the combination of the first two *screams* Narcissenkreuz to me. I assume the motive is destabilizing Fontaine's energy system. It furthers Harbingers' goals and it would be too lucky a coincidence if it was someone else. So... A Narcissenkreuzer and a Harbinger. Noice.

We have Mary-Ann disappearing during that accident in Elynas without a trace. No body was found. Sus. We know Alain founded the Research Institute and worked on his own projects until death from old age. He could have transfered his consciousness into a robot. Also someone else could have.

(maybe the big robot is Alain then. as they say in Mondstadt, ehe)

(from Enigmatic Page XII, I can't guess who the author is)

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Other characters' voicelines

Since Scaramouche's line about her says Sandrone is nowhere near an engineering genius and has produced a "copious amount of garbage", I assume it's not Alain. Mary-Ann it is then. She has her brother's old designs and theories but that's it.

Then there's Childe's voiceline about Sandrone:

When it was added I assumed it was about how clueless Childe can be about the consequences of his actions, but also what if he really didn't do anything (poor boy. everyone is so quick to suspect the worst about him).

We know that Mary-Ann and Alain had a big falling out with Rene and Jakob because of the Abyss research and what they did to Carter. If Sandrone is in fact Mary-Ann, it's possible that whatever Childe is just reminds her of Jakob. Or of Carter. Sorry Childe, your existence is just a trigger for the poor traumatised girl.

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Summarising all that: guys, gals, fellow Romans and other forms of life, it's Sandrone. Everything in Fontaine is about Sandrone.

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Things this theory doesn't account for unless you squint really hard.

- They don't look much alike but then a lot of years have passed and we have Herta from HSR and the way her appearance shifts slightly with each new puppet.

However, they also don't look that different.

- Why did Lyney need to investigate the Oratrice? If at least one Harbinger knows how it functions then what is left there to investigate? Maybe he was trying to tamper with it, of course. Or maybe they know the Gnosis is in there.

But then the Harbingers aren't exactly known for good communication between coworkers.

- If Mary-Ann is alive, why did she leave her brother behind? Why didn't she go back for Seymour?

I have no good answer for this, so this is likely proof that Sandrone is not Mary-Ann then.

(maybe she doesn't know Seymour is alive and he will recognize her sometime later in the story, of course)

- Who was the familiar voice Lyney heard near the Oratrice? It's not familiar enough to recognise but someone known to him. I doubt he knows Sandrone subordinates or met Sandrone herself. Or maybe he's lying and it's someone he recognises and wants to protect. Or maybe, as Cricket says in their post, that was a distraction too.

- Also there's Rene who happily dissolved into collective consciousness and no one heard of him after that. He could know any kind of things (including how the Oratrice works and what's happening with the primordial seawater) and it's a stretch of course, but any of the Harbingers (Arle included) could be working with him. Anyway, where's Rene?

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

#sandrone #fatui #fontaine #childe #tartaglia #oratrice #narcissenkreuz #I wrote a dissertation again #crackpot hc #i have connected the dots #I have connected them #or maybe she's just reincarnated guizhong #there have been rumours about reincarnated guizhong in 4.X #then we already have her lore #and it would be hilarious

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yllirya · 7 months

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so this is about Egeria/Focalors/the Oratrice/Furina, right? Egeria is the lady, most likely, but there is obviously st shady about the Oratrice and Focalors/Furina that will resolve (i hope) in 4.2. Lore enthusiasts, anything more about this?

#neuvillette #focalors #furina #oratrice #egeria #genshin impact #genshin lore #genshin theory

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m4lw4re4rt · 6 months

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Oratrice Mecanique D‘Analyse Cardinale

#artists on tumblr #digital art #drawing #art #fanart #genshin impact #neuvillette #oratrice #oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale

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elysiaishere · 6 months

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Genshin 4.2 Trailer (Spoilers)

The Genshin 4.2 trailer is HERE, and as some might expect, I have THOUGHTS.

ESPECIALLY about the opening sequence. So, let's get into it, shall we?

"According to the judgment of the Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale, the Hydro Archon is to be punished via... the death sentence." — Neuvillette

This voiceline, paired with the shots of Furina silently weeping atop her lonely throne, paint a bleak picture. The Hydro Archon, the God of Justice herself, is on the stand, and her own divine device has declared that the only punishment suitable for her crime is execution. But, how did we get here?

Honestly, neither the trailer nor the information we have from the previous Acts can adequately answer this question. From her inaction to her frivolity, her crime could be anything. Nonetheless, limited information has never stopped me from speculating!

I think Furina's crime is related to the "sin" referenced in Lyney's explanation about the prophecy:

"...that every person in Fontaine is born with 'sin'. No matter how the Nation of Justice holds trial after trial, this sin cannot be absolved."

So, what is this "sin" Lyney mentions?

Again, there's no real way of knowing for certain. However, given the plethora of Biblical references throughout Fontaine, I think it's fair to assume that the "sin" referenced in Fontaine might draw its roots from Christianity. Or, to be more precise, the "Original Sin."

While the term "Original Sin" was only coined around the 3rd century (by a Augustine of Hippo), its essence has been consistently referenced for much longer. In Genesis 3, in a line from Psalm 51:5, and in Paul's Epistle to the Romans. However, the references I want to concentrate on are in Genesis 3—Adam's and Eve's expulsion from the Garden of Eden.

In Genesis 2-3, God creates Adam and Eve and places them into an idyllic garden. He only has one rule they must follow: do not eat the forbidden fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. However, as most of us know, a serpent tempts Eve to eat the fruit, and she shares this fruit with Adam. Consequently, God banishes them from the Garden of Eden forever. This action, this disobedience, is largely considered the "Original Sin" by Christians and historians alike.

With that in mind, I think the "sin" mentioned by Lyney is disobedience.

As such, I believe Egeria (the previous Hydro Archon) knowingly disobeyed either Celestia or even the very laws of Teyvet to protect Fontaine. However, with Egeria gone, Furina must now bear the weight of her predecessor's decisions—and face the consequences too.

#genshin 4.2 #genshin impact #furina #oratrice #fontaine #fontaine genshin #fontaine prophecy #egeria #genshin theory #genshin lore

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diot05 · 7 months

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Ok so i've seen a lotta people argue about whether or not Furina is the Hydro Archon, but what if (and bear with me here) she is ONE Hydro Archon. Like one of the currently standing Lords of Hydro.

Alright hear me out, Arlecchino mentions how Furina is under some kind of a curse, girl doesn't even have a gnosis, her playable self wields a vision and it doesn't seem to be a disguise like the tone deaf bard or geo daddy, so how does anyone believe she's a god?! Well below will be what i think is the power dynamic of the 4 (3.5 actually since one is a machine)

Furina. She is the one most would think of when 'Hydro Archon' pops up in their head, she holds the TITLE of Lord of Hydro, as well as the physical form since she shares the most physical traits with the other Archons (glowing hair and the like), and is thus responsible for representing Fontaine (people call her a mascot for a reason y'all).

Neuvillette. He holds the responsibilities of the Archon, as well as some of the power through being a Sovereign Dragon, that is what originally powered the gnoses after all, and being the only sovereign we've met so far that has been born in a human form AND was given a chance to live in his element's nation peacefully, of course he'd display his mastery over his element more obviously.

Egeria. Despite dying 500 years ago during the cataclysm, her spirit is still around in Teyvat thanks to Rukkhadevata, in fact she's the one responsible for launching that obvious giant green energy blast towards the sky, fighting The Abyss to this day (maybe that's where Neuvillette got it from), so she holds the majority of the Archons power, thus why Furina is so weak and vulnerable compared to the other Archons, 'her' power is still mostly held by her predecessor even after death.

The Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale. It would probably hold the Hydro Gnosis, similarly to how the Dendro Gnosis powered the Akasha Terminals prior to them being deactivated by Nahida, this is the point i'm shakiest on, but my reasoning is that we know very little about Indemnitium, we do know it is produced by the Oratrice but it's not stated to be what POWERS it, it is merely a byproduct of it's decisions in a trial, and if Lyney is right to suspect it ties back to the crisis, along with the strange voice he heard while investigating it, it would make sense the Oratrice is powered by the gnosis and that was Egeria (or Sandrone but that's another crackhead theory, Sandrone mention tho yippee).

With all that said i hope you all enjoyed this silly theory i came up with while rambling to a friend, please don't take it too seriously but if you have anything to add or anything that breaks this theory please let me know! This is very different from my usual shitposts here on Tumblr so i might make more theories in the future, who knows, anyway, byee!

#fontaine #genshin story quest #genshin impact #genshin #genshin theory #genshin thoughts #genshin impact theory #fontaine theory #oratrice #furina #focalors #egeria #fontaine spoilers #fontaine siblings #fontaine characters #hydro archon #archon quest #archons

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magicular · 8 months

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Interesting how Lyney and Lynette removed their visions before investigating the Oratrice, but Lyney wears and even uses his vision during his Cesar stunt.

I have a theory about that, actually.

What if going near the Oratrice affects visions? And they know firsthand because it happened to Childe.

—the magic trick dedicated to Cesar was an anomaly too. Lyney used his pyro vision but his trick involved diving into water midair. Where did the water come from?

Maybe it was a visual effect.

Or maybe someone who has a hydro vision (or power) was assisting him.

And for a third option: There’s something special about the people of Fontaine which enabled the illusion.

#tartaglia #lyney #lynette #oratrice #genshin impact #genshin theory #actually maybe I’m overthinking it and lyney simply redirected himself towards the surrounding waters while using flowers to cover it up

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m3lssposts · 7 months

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some doodles with Scarlet King and his Lacie ehem.. dear boo

#my doodles #genshin impact #king deshret #nabu malikata #silver wolf experiences the heat of new version's size #oratrice

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melodymorningdew · 6 months

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Why it kinda slap tho?

#melody morningdew art #oratrice #oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale #furry artist #female furry #fursona #fursuiter #fursuiting #disabled furry #disabled #undiagnosed chronic illness #undiagnosed disability #undiagnosed chronic pain #chronically fatigued #christian furry #chronic migraine #chronically ill #hypermobile ehlers danlos

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smellyarmpithaver · 6 months

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The Oratrice: A theory

So the Oratrice has been a driving motivation for some of yhe character, yet it's mystery still hasn't been revealed. So I have a theory.

In the Furina character teaser she is talking to the camera, and near the end she says something to the effect of "this isnt real, its all in your head". Then I remembered that the oratrice somehow works with the power of the audiences opinion. It shows Furina holding onto the fallen Oratrice, implying she was talking to the Oratrice. So what if the Oratrice is a way to preserve the peoples consciousness, even afeter the great flood? Thats the theory, thank you for reading!

#theory #genshin theory #genshin speculation #genshin impact theory #genshin impact #genshin impact furina #furina #hydro archon #focalors #genshin focalors #fontaine #genshin fontaine #oratrice

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ichigomaniac · 6 months

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