Hi Wawa! I'm curious about a trend in some of the douyins you've posted. It seems like the "punchline" of a lot of them is boys being romantic with each other (like ending up accidentally holding hands or staring into each other's eyes). Sometimes it seems like the script is supposed to be explicitly queer (like that series with the boss and his employee who have the silent conversations). I'm queer and I really like these douyins because I think they're funny and they don't come off as mean-spirited, but I was curious about the cultural context considering China's legal stance on lgbtq+ stuff. Thank you in advance if you can provide some insight!
Well first of all, you have to remember
the internet is more queer friendly than real life
the douyins you see are going to contain a bias from me, the person who is choosing them/reposting them with translations. I am not going to post douyins where being queer is the punchline because that would be absurd and hurtful. I'm only going to post douyins where the queer plot point is unrelated to the actual punchline. For example, in the 双面笑笑 douyins you mentioned, the joke there is supposed to be that workplace dynamic is inappropriate and exploitative, and the 'romance' always has to do with the boss trying to get the employee to work more (which the employee gets suckered into doing).
I answered a similar ask once before, and I stand by what I said there, with the additional emphasis on the fact that there is only so much cultural context I can offer considering I don't live in China.
To add onto it, I would be to stress that it's really a complex and multi-faceted issue on the ground/beyond just government policies or whatever. There is a diverse IRL queer experience in China, just as there is, for example, in the U.S. Depending on where you live and your socioeconomic status, you are going to be more or less burdened by your identity, and it seems (to me, as an observer who doesn’t live in China) that there’s sort of that simultaneous thing of there being continued prejudice at the same time that there is a sense of liberation due to the prevalence of LGBT rep globally/abroad.
↳ For example, I see an argument being made a lot of against gay men marrying/having children with straight women; online, straight and queer people alike will condemn this due to the fact that it is, objectively, unfair to straight women. What I find a bit mysterious is the argument that the gay men feeling pressured into the marriage/family pipeline are doing so out of pure selfishness, and that they should just 'be themselves', as if there isn't HUGE societal pressure in China to get married and have children. Similarly, there seems to be much derision amongst lesbians toward Ts (butch lesbians, approximately) who marry straight men and have children, I'm guessing because they're "visibly queer", although this gets iffy because not all tomboys/masc girls are Ts (i.e, lesbians), but lesbians will naturally feel tricked/betrayed when a masc girl 'profits' (directly/by creating lesbian aesthetics or through being ambiguous/private about their real sexuality) off being appealing to lesbians because she looks like a T, and then turns around and gets married to a guy (and of course, now we get into the subject of bisexuality/bi-erasure/biphobia :S). But I seriously digress.
As for douyin and depicting the queer, there is also some level of what I can best describe as shipping/fujoshi/skinship culture at play? I know tumblr likes to look down on that sort of thing, either as cringe or problematic, but it's quite normal for douyin users to ship IRL douyin users, no matter if m/m, f/f, m/f, etc. (The distinction to note here I guess is that it's quite lighthearted shipping. Sort of like spectating, I guess? Typically people don't read that deeply into it, they just will comment that they ship something if they think there's chemistry there or it'd be cute. There's also a pretty normal phenomenon of fans commenting 'can I ship this?' toward accounts, who generally agree/don't care/reply ambiguously, which is seen as passive approval).
The rise of danmei has helped promote queerness and legitimise/normalise it, but it has also aestheticised it to some degree. It's a similar phenomenon that you see in Western media representation, I feel like. Anecdotally, I've read many a douyin comment section of queer people lamenting that there are straight people using queerness and queer stories and aesthetic to profit, giving nothing back to the actual queer community or to the advancement of queer liberation; again, this is similar to what you can find in the west.
CONCLUSION:
I think I'm starting to lose the plot on this answer a little, so I'll just stop here. Just know that the landscape of queer content on douyin/the Chinese internet is vast and multifaceted, and the queer Chinese community/culture is not going to directly translate to western LGBT™ school of thought/discourse/expectations, though the nature of globalisation is that western discourse has naturally dictated a good portion of LGBT understanding worldwide.
With regards to douyin/Chinese internet depiction of queer "rep", some of it is mean-spirited or at very least, not intentionally mean but still off-putting, either by my personal standards and/or by western (popular discourse?) standards. I just don't post that content because I don't find it worth sharing.
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Ahh, what a cute scene in the middle of so much violence and drama. I wonder what these little sweeties wished for.
["What did you wish for this year, darling?" / " For life to stop sucking. Why? What did you wish for? Magic fairy dust? Don't be an idiot, we all know this place is deep in the shit."]
I mean, I DEFINITELY know what hers was. I mean just look at that sweet, innocent face.
[Let the fire consume. Let it make ash of the immoral, the unkind and sunder their souls to the ever burning planes. Rebirth is on its way but first we must make a blood sacrifice to the eternal flame.]
.... She's not wrong.
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Since you replied, I'll elaborate (jk, I was gonna do that anyways) enot's funky little trait is spawning those singularity eggs every cycle, so if enot was engineered by an iterator, it's obviously meant to be ascendy. but the egg doesn't actually permakill or ascend anyone, so it's a failure. But it does succeed in a different way. It warps reality! this is best showed in the dating sim thing, as every time the egg is used, or cracked, it causes some pretty weird reality-bending (in one case, just making a whole new universe) in the standard game it just acts like a regular singularity bomb, but you could also interpret that the weirdness of the Enot campaign is due to the egg's influence. Enot on their own is (mostly) like a regular slugcat. It's when they bring along the egg that things get all funky and, of course, the dating sim setting itself! you unlock it by ascending as Enot, which implies that rather than truly ascending, they ended up resetting the cycles in a new alternate universe or timeline, and the routes where they end up using the egg causes further weirdness... and most notably, Saint knows about this and has tried to break the cycles using it! it's implied it just resets the cycle instead, though. So, thanks to enot your au could technically be cannon! (Thx to bluenightold for putting this in my brain. And sorry that this is excessively long :( )
You're good with having it really long- I like reading people's rambles as a whole!
Void in general causes reality warping properties, we can see this in general with echos, singularity bombs, and karma flowers which all have void fluid in them from what we can see of the effects.
Even Rubicon has this odd effect of changing properties of things, and is probably closer to the void freaking the fuck out from Saint... Saint-ness. We can see the creatures with void in them as a whole tend to have a lot more energy and movement. given the destruction too it's likely that void has a stupid amount of energy but also highly corrosive by all means.
It's very interesting as a whole, given the fact this means there's an unnatural vs natural power sources issue within the game and likely has been in affect in the past given that the emergency power batteries (known as Rarefaction cells)! which act nearly exactly like singularity cells if destroyed via a leviathan if not a bit worse. probably a bit more of the aftershock (best word to use I suppose) is affected and twisted much worse to the point where artificer can not survive the aftershocks... but given it's literally warping everything with the amount of energy produced, it's like a much worse version of breaking the wind barrier in a way. Probably a very painful death given everything.
Saint is definitely fucked up! and I love it. it's very fun to imagine the relationship of em in my own hc and aus of these lil guys :)!!
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im a big fan of making your own post
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