#userkarson

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why do antis think it went:

- steve lies

- billy breaks a plate over steve’s head

when it actually went:

- billy gets smacked around, called a slur, then threatened all by his father because max ran off on his watch

- billy had to drive all around town to track down where she is, while he’s supposed to be on a date

- max sets the tone by saying “he can’t know i’m here. he’ll kill me. he’ll kills us.” (which babe way dramatic jfc)

- steve (a borderline 18 year old) lies about the whereabouts of max (a 13 year old) to her stepbrother. he also lies about even knowing who she is!!!

- billy calls him out for lying

- steve says “oh shit”

- billy sends steve to the ground for being weird

- flirting

- billy goes inside

- billy sees that not only was max with steve but three other boys as well (boys that billy has only ever seen making max upset)

- billy sets his sights on lucas who he already told max to stay away from (we can talk all about the racist undertones of this interaction but that’s not what this post is about)

- billy pushes lucas and tells him to stay away from max

- lucas kicks billy (rightfully so tbh)

- billy makes a threat that 100% was not serious (you think he would actually kill a child? be fr)

- steve punches billy

- billy’s reaction to steve punching him is laughing (LAUGHING but we don’t have time to unpack allll of that)

- more flirting

- billy swings at and misses steve

- steve punches billy again

- steve punches billy a third time while the kids cheer him on

- billy is still laughing

- steve punches billy a fourth time and backs him into a corner

- like mother like son billy breaks a plate over steve’s head

- the fight turns and now steve is getting his shit rocked

- max stabs billy IN THE NECK with a syringe with an unknown substance in it (this easily could have killed him)

- max threatens billy

#billy was punched four times before he landed a hit #if you think billy is the winner in this situation you’re completely wrong #mind you i went to the episodes to get this 100% accurate and forced my way through scenes that are hard for me to watch #if you don’t think steve was in the wrong for lying to billy please block me #you disgust me and i really hope you don’t have little siblings #steve didn’t tell some harmless lie #he told the brother of a 13 year old that his sister wasn’t at a stranger’s house in the middle of the woods #also why have i never talked about the song that plays while billy is leaving the wheeler’s house i’m gonna be sick #billy hargrove #steve harrington #stranger things #userkarson

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how are you going to have “safe space” in your bio and then reblog a post celebrating the death of an abused 18 year old?

#i just do not understand #even if i didn’t like billy i would not feel safe around people celebrating his death #billy hargrove #userkarson

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“we never see billy change his ways in canon”

because he dies saving all their lives?????????

#i don’t understand how antis can just completely ignore the fact that billy saved them #not even just el #ALL OF THEM #because if billy had stepped out of the way the mindflayer would have killed el #then turned and killed as many other as it could before joyce shut the gate #el cared about billy for 0.2 seconds and he used that comfort to fight off the possession and sacrifice himself #how the fuck is that not a redemption arc??? #all jonathan had to do was say ‘i shouldn’t have done that’ for nancy to be like ‘it’s fine’ #and all steve had to do was befriend a gay person #or do we just completely forget season one happened #tbh i think y’all choose to ignore it #and stop trying to defend lucas when y’all were probably the same people who hated on him in season one when he didn’t blindly trust el #see it’s the same where y’all think billy should have blindly trusted steve #why are y’all obsessed with blind trust??? #couldn’t be me #if i say y’all one more time i might start laughing wtf #anyway i just woke up and shouldn’t be getting this upset #userkarson #stranger things #billy hargrove

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and what if i said that wonderland by taylor swift is THE rosekiller song? what then, huh?

#yeah yeah ‘karson what about don’t blame me!’ LISTEN TO WONDERLAND THEN GET BACK TO ME #sorry got a little passionate there #heart attack by one direction is also so them #but that one i’m only admitting to in the tags #wizarding world #dead gay wizards #marauders era #barty crouch jr #evan rosier #rosekiller #taylor swift #music #userkarson

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billy antis be like:

#or just like anything we have to say about anything really #embarrassing if you ask me #billy hargrove #billy antis #do i have a tag specifically for my memes?? #idk man #userkarson

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casually having a breakdown as i write the scene for the first time the stairs don’t let ron up to the girls dormitory anymore

#losing my mind right now #trans ron weasley #ron weasley #wizarding world #userkarson #wtdmtn update

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do you ever just

at your own writing

#because i’m so *keyboard smash* about it rn #this character is thinking about kissing another character and he’s just like: #it would be so easy. so effortless. #i’m gonna pass out #writing #karson writes things sometimes #userkarson

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this breed of anti that says “billy started it” when talking about a woman in her 40s flirting with and literally agreeing to have sex with a freshly 18 year old that she’s been lusting after since he was still 17 is actually terrifying

if you’re an adult and a child is flirting with you it’s your responsibility to shut them down and not play into it

#it’s apparently fine because she was a *checks notes* bored housewife #like literally yikes #billy antis interact with this i dare you #try to justify it and expose yourself i fucking DARE you #billy hargrove #karen wheeler #stranger things #i was so mad i forgot my tag #so edit lol #userkarson

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i’m currently trying to write a scene of a character coming out as trans to his older brother and i’m legit sobbing so hard i can’t even write it

(cw this if for the harry potter fandom I’M SORRY i just love these characters so much but please understand that i hate jkr with my entire being)

Ron carefully took the gift with one hand— the other staying wrapped around his big brother’s arm. He set it on his lap then unwrapped the cloth. He stared down at the hair clip, tears quickly filling his eyes again. “Thank you.” His voice shook and he knew it didn’t sound genuine.

“You don’t like it?”

Ron’s free hand smacked up to his eyes to cover them. “It’s not that,” he sobbed. He tried to take calming breaths, but it was becoming harder to breathe— harder to stay quiet. “Everything feels wrong. All the time.”

it’s okay ron, i am sobbing right along with you

#literally a line i said to my mother #but then she called me stupid for feeing that way and i still haven’t come out to her #and it’s been eight years lmao #he’s talking to bill and bill isn’t going to call him stupid #trans ron weasley #i just discovered him today but he’s so so personal to me now #lowkey feel like i’m betraying my community by writing for hp but also i can do what i want yk #i haven’t supported that woman monetarily in years #how the hell do i organize tag this not as a character’s name lol #wizarding world #that ig #ron weasley #tw jkr #fuck jkr #ah the curse of loving something what was created by a horrible person #userkarson #karson writes things sometimes #wtdmtn update

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Side eye- I agree people shouldn't include him the poll if they don't want him to win but...he's a racist repeating the abuse cycle with Max

Genuinely curious how he's redeemable in your eyes? I am asking objectively bc I don't see it- especially with how he treated Lucas

side eye. babe he is not “repeating the cycle of abuse with max” he grabbed her arm a total of ONE time. that she later referenced about it being the first time he had ever done something like that. a one time situation does not make a pattern. he backed off after she threatened him with the bat. if he was abusive he wouldn’t have done that. also the only reason he was looking for her was because his father abused HIM and threatened him into finding her.

he found her in a strangers house in the middle of the woods with a borderline 18 year old that lied about even knowing who she was. he had no other context of the situation.

they both equally yelled at each other so if billy is verbally abusive in your eyes then max should be to. do you have siblings? i fight with mine all the time. less so now that we’re out of the toxic environment of our childhood.

it’s almost like you can’t heal while still in that toxic/abusive environment? huh crazy!

in season two billy was a 17 year old who had just been moved two thousand miles away from everything he knew. he’s gonna act out.

if you think an abused teenager is beyond help then i encourage YOU to get help.

if you look at the entire line you antis like to quote him on he says “something you learn is there are certain people you stay away from” as in he learned it from somewhere. my guess is his abusive father.

how do you feel about mike?

or jason?

both those characters were shown to be racist towards lucas as well.

what do you have to say to the fans who are racist towards lucas or kali or argyle?

or the antis who are racist towards poc fans of billy?

billy had been eighteen for three months when he died. and he was still living with his abusive father.

i know real life people who were WAY worse than billy in high school who have since gotten their shit together. and i would never condemn someone for who they were as a teenager.

#tw abuse #tw racism #get a fucking grip babe holy shit #if you would take two seconds to look at any post about this already made you’d have your fucking answer #but we all know that antis have no critical thinking skills #people aren’t born racist they are taught it #and it’s NEVER too late to unlearn it #sorry if this is all over the place i’m at work and shouldn’t be getting this annoyed rn #billy hargrove #neil hargrove #stranger things #asks i’ve answered #userkarson

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not sure anyone cares but i literally started crying when you are in love came on cause my brain started thinking about yuki and kakeru

#i haven’t thought about them in months and now i’m in shambles #yukeru #sohma yuki #manabe kakeru #fruits basket #taylor swift #music #userkarson

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you know, i was thinking about how those characters are treated by the overall fandom and op seems to have been taking about in the show. so where’s the heat directed at the other characters who have been racist on the show? and the people who stan them?

mike and jason. to name a few.

i have never once seen them or people who like their characters get ripped a new one over liking them.

you know what i have seen?

people hating on lucas every single season. billy antis reducing lucas to “the black kid.” people saying to skip s2e7 cause it’s pointless. people saying argyle was a useless character. billy antis being racist towards pocs who don’t hate billy. it’s kinda funny tbh.

yeah, i like billy as a character. but that doesn’t mean i excuse every single thing he’s ever done. i just shouldn’t have to say it every time a take a breath in this fandom space.

there is not a single character in stranger things that is completely innocent and hasn’t done a single thing wrong. (aside from holly, so are we all only allowed to like holly now?)

#i’m just trying to understand #and the maths ain’t mathin #lucas sinclair #kali stranger things #argyle stranger things #billy hargrove #my tumblr is back on its ‘billy harringrove’ bs omg #stranger things #userkarson

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another idea dump because why the hell not, yk

this is entirely @ariesbilly’s fault, i saw their post and couldn’t stop thinking about this

(once again i’m not figuring out the canon timeline and what has/hasn’t happened. i’ll do that if i ever actually write this — also i’ve never run away from home so idk how accurate this is but you know what it’s fandom so sue me)

- billy graduates high school with a small sum of money he had managed to keep from his father (doing odd jobs for people and picking up extra shifts his father wouldn’t know about when taking his money for “being expensive to raise”)

- he leaves in the middle of the night with only his clothes and a few things he couldn’t bear to part with. he had stood in max’s doorway for five minutes trying to decide if he wanted to say goodbye. ultimately, he couldn’t do it

- he survives by staying at cheap, sketchy motels and doing odd jobs for people he meets

- he sells his car then gets a new one about a month into his journey so his father can’t use it to track him. he wasn’t sure if he was but he didn’t want to chance it

- his destination? california (he remembers his mother telling him she would never be able to leave that state, he was holding onto hope that was still true)

- it takes him six months to get there

- he finds the cheapest apartment he can and instantly starts looking for stable work

- it’s a few more months before he gets the chance to ask around about his mother

- he doesn’t know how to feel about how easy it is to get information to find her. she had remarried. had kids from her new husband’s previous marriage and a few they had together

- everyone he talked to about her only had good things to say. if asked he said he was the kid of an old family friend

- he had found her. found out where she lived. where she worked. where her husband worked even. but for some reason he can’t get himself to go to any of those places to talk to her. to confront her

- eventually she comes to his place of work, wanting to know who this kid asking about her is. she recognizes him instantly and billy once again doesn’t know how to feel about that

- he takes his lunch break then they go to a diner a few blocks away

(my phone crashed while i was writing this so excuse me if the dialogue isn’t that good — it never is my second time writing it)

- it’s silent between them until after the waitress brings their drinks then takes their food orders

- billy looks up at his mother, a million questions running through his mind. he isn’t even able to pick one to ask before she is speaking, “billy, you have to stop this.”

- it takes him a good ten seconds to form the words, “stop what?”

- “stop asking questions about me. stop trying to come back into my life.”

- he slams a fist onto the table, "i am your son! and you're trying to push me away? again!"

- "push you away?"

- "you left me. abandoned me with that abusive excuse of a father. why? to start a new family? one that isn't broken?" his mother stayed quiet. "did you even try to see me after i begged you to come back?"

- “by the time i did, your father said you didn’t want to see me.”

- “and you believed that?”

- “billy, please. people are staring.”

- “i don’t fucking care! how could you say that to me? how could you leave me there? and now, how can you just sit there and reject me?” his last question was quieter than the rest. his gaze fell down to the table, he couldn’t look at her any longer

- “i’m sorry but i moved on years ago and you should do the same. we’re better off apart.”

- billy didn’t even know how to comprehend her words. he had dreamed about this day since she left. them reuniting and fixing their relationship. it would take time but never once did he think she would kick him out of her life for good. he slowly looked back up to her. he could see it in her eyes that she didn’t want to see him

- “fine.” he gets up, blazing past the waitress coming back with their food. his mother doesn’t even try to stop him, doesn’t even call out his name

- he doesn’t make it back to work that day

- he does make it home, despite the tears streaming down his face. he doesn’t fully remember the drive or even getting up to his apartment. but there he is, standing in the middle of the tiny living room with fucking tears streaming down his face

- why didn’t either of his parents love him? why was it such a crazy thing to want from the people who brought you into the world?

- he feels so numb

- and a few days later he would decide to move on like she told him to. he would accept the closure and work on starting a new chapter of his own

- but for now he was standing in that room, clutching the phone because all he wanted to do was call her but he couldn’t risk him answering the the phone. and would she even want to hear from him?

#tw child neglect #tw rejection #tw child abuse #i started writing this at work #then finished it when i woke up at five in the morning #casually breaking my own damn heart #he wants to call max at the end #because i’m a sucker for their relationship being better than people think it is #in times of despair he just wants to talk to his sister #billy hargrove #max mayfield #neil hargrove #billy’s mom #stranger things #karson writes things sometimes #userkarson

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when do you think neil began his abuse?

like does billy remember a time when his parents were in love?

or was the abuse present since before he was born?

#random thoughts with karson #why or why did my brain give me this? #i don’t want it #so here you can have it #billy hargrove #neil hargrove #stranger things #tw abuse #tw child abuse #userkarson

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i have like six different edits of billy as my lockscreen (it switches between them every time the screen turns on) and there’s a certain one that any time it shows up at 10:0-something i cackle

look at him!

#like i can’t handle it ever #billy hargrove #stranger things #userkarson

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finn’s little enthusiastic nod and smile when brittany says christopher cross discovered america takes me out every time

#like he’s so silly #an adorable little idiot #so is brittany #finn hudson #brittany s pierce #glee #glee season two #userkarson #karson watches things