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just-prime · 7 months

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8 : Oh so boring

The horrifying MCU-ification of the Star Wars universe is in horrific display as 8 episodes lead nowhere but setup.

Before I get to everything else, I do want to say, Ray Stevenson's passing is a true tragedy, and I appreciate the love and care he clearly put into his character. He was the only compelling one, and I shudder to think of how Disney will probably heartlessly recast.

Now, on to the episode

Well, all the leaks that said it was zombies were right, to the surprise of no one. This is the MCU now, we need something more than just a fuck ton of stormtroopers to blow through, we need an undead CGI army.

First off : The Jedi, The Witch, and The Warlord...FUCK OFF FILONI. YOU ARE NOT CUTE.

The show opens with the attempt to lull Legends fans back into a Sion reference for no reason. Also, Thrawn's super baggy pants seem unnecessary, especially since the design in Rebels always has him in perfectly tailored clothes. Nothing during his decade abroad that would have cause the pants to change that drastically, so it just feels like an unnecessary change that is not an attractive look :(

Morgan's power ups make no sense, and as soon as she got them she was going to die. Her eyes had me making a half dozen Supernatural jokes for obvious reasons. The whole "Blade of Talzin" thing is also very dumb given the fact that I assume Mother Talzin would have used every weapon in her arsenal to stop Grievous, and I would think a lightsaber proof sword is on that list.

The entire "Ezra makes himself a new lightsaber" scene filled me rage for a few reasons.

A) Ezra literally just turned down Sabine's offer of the lightsaber for the martial arts force powers which we never see him use again.

B) Huyang knowing about Caleb and Kanan being the same person feels kinda weird to me to be perfectly honest.

C) Ezra's new lightsaber is boring. Full stop. This is the kid who built a gun into his first one, it makes no sense that he'd make one that looks this mediocre.

D) All of Sabine's family dying horrible deaths on Mandalore has always struck me as a cop out. It's just lazy writing to isolate Sabine.

The Stakes

Spoiler alert : THERE ARE NONE

We knew this was going to end in a cliffhanger for a while now, which means none of the main cast was going to die. Morgan has always been a means to an end for Thrawn, not that her loyalty was ever explain...But none of our heroes were gonna bite it (regardless of how I hoped for Huyang to explode) so there were no stakes. Thrawn had to escape, despite the fact that he is weirdly shaken, so he does. Ezra had to get home, so he does. Sabine and Ahsoka are now trapped on some stupid Mortis world??? Okay, pause, I'm getting ahead of myself here...because before that...

Sabine has the Force now

My deepest condolences to anyone who is finding this out from me, but Sabine is offically confirmed and shown to be Force sensitive. Yes it is dumb. Yes it makes no sense. Yes this is something we all saw being foreshadowed from day one, unfortunately. Especially with the playing down of her Mandalorian-ness (she's constantly losing her helmet, her gun accuracy has utterly gone, she barely uses her gauntlets, etc etc) it was obvious that Filoni wanted to do with her, what he was too cowardly to do with Grogu.

Other miscellaneous shit

It turns out that Ahsoka's shuttle is Jedi era...which makes no fucking sense.

The nightsisters being totally on board with the Empire feels like their ability to tell what's going on in the main universe might be a bit sketchy do to the fact that they missed that the guy in charge of the Empire is the one who ordered Dathomir razzed.

100% of the problems that the gang run into would have been solved if Sabine had a fucking jetpack

They pull the "Thrawn knew Anakin" card out of nowhere in the dumbest possible way, which really just goes to show how much FIloni hates the new canon Thrawn books.

Chopper recognizes Ezra (which was rather cute) before Hera does, because he decides to show up on a New Republic cruiser in full Thrawn stormtrooper garb. Also we don't even get a hug between Hera and Ezra.

Shin (because she exists, remember?) who is also stranded now, goes and appears to be taking over the bandit camp we saw earlier. Have no idea where they are taking that...but honestly, good for Shin doing something for her, this seems like a selfcare move.

Now, the ending...Fucking Mortis

So, the final shot we get of Baylan, he is standing on a giant statue of The Father (there is a statue of The Son, and a destroyed statue of The Daughter) pointing out towards something on the horizon.

Back at the hermit crab people camp, Ahsoka and Sabine (and fucking Anakin's ghost, because that's right people, instead of hanging out with his son, Anakin has been just hovering over Ahsoka this whole time apparently) here this chirping, and it's a fucking creepy hyper realistic CGI Morai.

So yeah, that's clearly how all of the trapped characters are going to get off this planet...the World between Worlds. Now, this brings up a fuck ton more questions...Chief of all being how did Ezra not use this to escape years ago???

And I get that Mortis is not everybody's favorite Clone Wars arc. Which is fair. I don't hate it, but I never loved it, and Filoni dragging in the dumbest piece of Force lore that he created is infuriating. ESPECIALLY with this being so obviously aimed at those who've not watched Clone Wars or Rebels. I'm curious to see how much he immediately recons about it, given that it's been his go-to move since before even Mando s3...

I fear they're going to do something like "Bayan is The Father, Ahsoka is The Daughter, and Shin and Sabine have to fight over being The Son" or some stupid bullshit like that.

I'm glad this is the last Filoni property we're getting for a while, since I'm pretty sure he's not involved with Skeleton Crew at all writing-wise.

I am just so happy it's over!

In the meantime, if you are as annoyed at Filoni as I am, spite him by reading the new canon Thrawn books!!! They are really fantastic and give Thrawn a lot of facinating depth, along with having an incredible cast of side characters.

For those of you who are new or just finding me because of my Ahsoka rants, please stick around!!! I'm sure I will be having other annoyed Ahsoka thoughts in the weeks to come as I think back about the full series and about just everything that it's fucked up. Feel free to pop into my ask box if you're curious about my other Star Wars related opinions, I'm more than happy to answer, though know that for the majority of the recent shows, I do not look fondly.

But if you are looking for some vindication on not enjoying recent Star Wars things, then this is the blog for you!!!

#dave filoni critical #ahsoka critical #ahsoka series #ahsoka spoilers #rambles #thrawn #nightsisters #ezra bridger #sabine wren #star wars #where the fuck is everbody?#anti filoni

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nonhumanhottie · 9 months

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Rebels season 4 rewatch

Famly reunion - and farewell

oh i am about to get fucked up i know it

Hera listening to Ezra talking to his parents and being proud of her boy

Pryce being absolutely disgusted by Kallus's defection is so iconic

Ezra whistling for his pet wolf to eat up Pryce lmao

ugh Ezra already has hos backup plan ready

Look at Kallus in his little imperial desguise and neat hair

Hondo is perfect please please let him be in the ahsoka show

Thrawn really called Pryce a dumb bitch lmao

Ryder's fucking Yularen accent I'm screaming

Thrawn really thinks he's doing something by waxing poetic to a teenager

Hera can't lose Ezra too oh my god she'll do anything to protect him

Sabine letting Ezra go!!

The old temple guard mask in Thrawn's office... that Kanan also wore when he was blinded... interesting

It's clever of Palps to know Ezra is too young to know what he used to look like

Mart confirming Ezra's vision--ezra is such a brave boy!

Love how Kallus is still strictly on last name basis with the gang

Again Rebels incoperation of Palps just blows the rise of skywalker out of the water lmaooo

for real though how did they move the temple

Mira calling Ezra the way Beru does to Luke messes me up

Zeb is truly an agent of chaos--so much so that it even makes Gregor shook

Ezra breaks my fucking heart he is so strong and so loving what a hero

the hologram of palps flashing from Sheev to the emperor ugh inspired iconic

the way the specres aren't afraid to talk mad shit to thrawn lmao

Hondo is such a softie i live for him

Gregor getting to fight for a cause he chose!! shut up!

Pellaeon!! Purrgil!! Oh baby!!

literally cannot stop grinning

the many arms the cold embrace oh thrawn you are fucked

I wonder if Ezra and Thrawn became besties in their many years together

ezra noooo you brave boy Hera is absolutely aghast

god Ezra i can't wait to see you again

i do like how this shows the empire doesn't take back lothal and their resolve is already cracking it lays a nice path for what we see in the original trilogy

okay but Mart trying to see behind Kallus and Zeb made me laugh

Lothal looks like the emerald city lmao

'the emperor's rein of terror came to an end' oh bitch oh bITCH

the homoerotic act of bringing your former enemy and now bestie to your new homeworld

Jacen fuck the haters I love your hair and I like to imagine he, poe dameron and ben solo were all besties who argued which parent was the best pilot

oh you btiches i cannot wait to see you in he Ahsoka show

this is the best star wars media and you cannot convince me otherwise

#leshi star wars rewatch #star wars #star wars rebels #ezra bridger #hera syndulla #zeb orrelios #sabine wren #kanan jarrus #alexsandr kallus #agent kallus #jacen syndulla #hondo ohnaka #emperor palpatine #palpatine #leshi speaks

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nerdfandumb · 8 months

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I don’t know how I feel after watching the Ahsoka premiere.

There were some parts I really like but other things just aren’t quite working for me. Specifically Sabine and Hera felt a bit off.

I feel like at the end of rebels Sabine had grown and become way more mature and it seems like this show is sort of going back on that??? Idk but she feels very teen coded despite being in her mid to late twenties at this point.

Hera also feels very different like they took away the fiery and stubborn parts of her character and are just focusing on like the supportive mom aspect which like could maybe work if they mentioned Jacen at all but idk. I don’t think I’m vibing with this version of her. Especially the bit where she’s like “oh these people they have the same powers as you” as if she’s never seen a Jedi before??? Like girl you and Kanan were basically married??? And you helped raise Ezra??? Like you know what a Jedi is!!!

Still I think the Sabine padawan stuff could be cool depending on how they handle it and I’m really digging all of the Thrawn mystery stuff so far. I do hope they explain how he’s connected to the Knight sisters but like I’m always up for witches in Star Wars so whatever. Also thank fucking god they had that line about Sabine being Ezra’s sister cause going in I was really scared they were gonna go the shipping route and I’m glad they aren’t. Hopefully.

To finish this off I shall list the things I am hoping will happen at some point in this series:

1. Kalazeb confirmation (or at least for them both to show up together on screen. I’ll take what I can get lol)

2. Helicopter lightsabers (there was a second in episode 2 where I thought this was about to happen but sadly it did not. I know everyone clowns on this as being stupid (and it is!) but it’s good stupid and just like imagine how much stupider it would look in live action. That’s the dream.)

3. Chopper kills a man.

Anyway those are my thoughts

#ahsoka series #ahsoka spoilers #Ahsoka #sabine wren #hera syndulla #ahsoka tano #kallazeb #chopper’s kill count #star wars

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tarisilmarwen · 9 months

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Rebels Rewatch: "Ghosts of Geonosis"

Packaging this two-parter as one big episode because shut up, you're not the boss of me.

I could have sworn I had a live reaction version of this already, but I can't for the life of me find it. Oh well.

This cue here sounds like it comes from TCW, maybe Saw's theme if he had one, anyone wanna confirm that for me?

This whole opening interaction between Ezra and Sabine is cute, she watches him as he plops down into her seat, gives a long-suffering eye roll, and dope slaps him across the back of his head for asking a stupid question and aside from a silently-mouthed "ow" he doesn't object to any of it lol.

Sign of the tightly-written continuity, we are returning to Geonosis to check out the missing populace and also pick up a Saw Guerrera guest appearance post his prominent role in Rogue One. (Out of text-wise that is.)

Empire cleaned up their mess pretty well.

Early establishing of the plot complications of the underground tunnels blocking comm signals, which features throughout the episode as a major element. The GFFA equivalent of establishing "no cell service", essentially.

The sandstorm also obscures things, visually and sensor-wise. And provides us with much humor as Sabine complains about it frequently.

Ho man, I remember how much I loved the banter and dialogue this episode, it was so much fun. Felt like a return to the early days of the show.

This episode was another really great one for subtly showing off Kanan's blindness. He mentions the stillness of the air, his hearing picks up on Klik-Klack before anyone else does, Saw has to let him know to watch his step...

As we already know, abandoned helmet = they 100% dead. The showrunners would use this visual shorthand very effectively in the promo image they did for "Heroes of Mandalore", with a whole pile of empty Mando helmets littered across a scorched landscape.

Kanan plays the voice of caution here, almost like he's the genre-savvy one in a horror movie, lol. Fitting, some aspects of the episode are played up like one. (We got the "Monster POV" shots, we got the cryptic remains left behind, we got no cell service, we got a storm.)

Badass boys shot. <3

Unlike Kalani's decrepit troops, these B1s and Destroyers have been better maintained and repaired, and give the group a bit more of a hassle until Saw shows up.

There's excellent teamwork between all the hero parties involved, Kanan and Ezra work smoothly as oil to slice up the Destroyer once its shield is gone, recalling Obi-Wan and Anakin from TCW.

Something I loved about this season was that characters would offhand mention, "Oh, we don't have this." or "The Rebellion really needs this." and then a couple episodes later they would manage to either acquire them or have them come into play.

Some examples: Proton bombs, this shield generator, spacesuits...

Ooof, was I the only one who caught the similarity between Saw urging them forward to satiate his obsession, Ezra agreeing, and Kanan choosing to trust him and, well... [gestures vaguely to the whole Malachor thing with Maul].

The tension this episode is great, the communication problems lend a sense of urgency and anxiety during both groups' separation and you get a feeling like the messages are coming almost too late to save them.

The Zeb and Sabine banter. <3

Kanan asking Ezra to look for him. <3

There he go, lol.

Kanan is really impressive, Force-wise, this episode, tossing Ezra aaaaaall the way across that chasm, separating and levitating that bridge for Saw and Rex to cross, and still somehow having enough energy and stamina to leap across himself.

And the Force theme that accompanies said above is lovely. <3

Ezra's pretty cool himself, using Force sense to find Klik-Klak when it seems like the bug has given them the slip. His theme is even excerpted a bit.

(Possibly he actually forms a connection, because he's very empathetic towards Klik-Klak after this and defends him from Saw repeatedly.)

Already having some Concerns about Saw's methods lol.

I love how this show depicts Ezra's compassion as one of his major strengths. It's natural for most Jedi and combined with Ezra's natural affinity for connection it's practically a superpower. Ezra's really sweet with Klik-Klak. :)

DEATH STAR-SHADOWING. Oh man the Dramatic Irony was painful, like any time TCW alluded to or called forward to Order 66 and a mental scream rings in your head and you want to yell at the characters and shake them as if that can somehow help them avoid the inevitable doom. Same feeling.

Saw, those binders do NOT have a tracker in them, don't lie.

Obligatory "Stab the TCW fans in the heart" moment.

Ezra seeing shades of himself in Saw's grudge against the Separatists, god his face this whole scene.

Once again touching on those Star Wars archthemes about breaking the cycle of revenge, about not turning your internal pain outwards on the rest of the world, no matter how righteous your cause, about not becoming a monster in your efforts to slay the dragon, about showing compassion to everyone, even your enemies. Saw is representative of the Well-Intentioned Extremist, and even though his ultimate goal is noble--destroying the Empire, exposing their secret superweapon so that the galaxy will finally wake up and deal with the tyranny they've come to complacently accept--Saw loses parts of his humanity in the process, emotionally and ultimately physically. He becomes almost like Vader in the bitter end, for his efforts. (And he's also a shadow of Thrawn.)

Brunsen! I love her.

Saw's personal grudge against the Separatists in general for killing his sister and his squad is blinding him. Ezra points out that Klik-Klak is basically the only survivor of a planet-wide massacre and is understandably a little defensive about invaders, trying to live up to his name again and "bridge" the differences between the two factions, only it doesn't work this time because Saw is too fanatic.

"Saw, we had this argument back at Command." Oh DID YOU now, Rex? Really could have forewarned the team that Saw might get a little deranged in his quest for truth.

I love Saw, he's the best example of an actually Morally Gray character in Star Wars. Unlike Thrawn, his "greater good" reason for going to such extremes, doing whatever it takes to achieve the goal, is actually directed outwards towards the whole of the galaxy, he doesn't selfishly focus inwards on his own interests. Part of it is of course that Saw has already lost his people and planet, so there's nothing left for him except to prevent it from happening to other people. We're encouraged to sympathize with his pain and sense of loss, but not necessarily be comfortable with his actions.

The narrative both condemns his extremism and, ultimately, vindicates him in regards to the Death Star. There's the same sense of futility about him in that neither he nor the Senate and Jedi before Order 66 could uncover the plot quick enough to avoid their fate.

Back to the action, though. Love how the Ghost is so infamous now that their capture/destruction leads to big promotions lol.

This music cue sounds full of adventure, I like it. :)

Klik-Klak trusting Ezra because Ezra was nice to him aww.

"Neither have yours." Saw has a reputation, oof.

It's cute how Klik-Klak keeps tugging on Ezra's wrist.

Yeeeeeeeah I don't think we're supposed to sympathize with Saw in this moment. It's very deliberate, they even have him throw Ezra across the room.

"Your methods are soft, Jedi." Shades of Tarkin much, Saw? I know this annoys people to hear but even if you're fighting fascists, there are lines you don't cross. Saw points a blaster at a baby for heaven's sake. You do not become like your enemy in order to destroy them, because then you're just taking their place, exchanging one kind of cruelty and violence for a different one, for your particular flavor of one.

War is hell but you don't have to become a demon.

Saw's long hesitation after Ezra uses the word "family", Ezra got to him a bit I think, lol. Rex reinforces that tactic, ha ha.

My only minor nitpick this episode, the show once again using the Empire as a Diobulus Ex Machina to make Saw play nice with the others. One more Persuasion Check would have done it I think.

Cue a very excellent action setpiece.

IIIIII think I heard this cue before, back in "Imperial Supercommandos" when Rau ambushed Ezra and Sabine in the shuttle. Interesting choice.

A nice little badass moment for Ezra. :)

And a hero shot for Sabine as we prepare to show off her new jetpack.

He adores her.

Kanan's the only one who can't see how awesome she is. :(

Her little "That's cute." shoulder pat when Ezra says he wants a jetpack too. <3

Love how this Imperial's hat gets sent askew slightly from Brunsen's slap.

HHHHHNNNNNN ONCE AGAIN THE DRAMATIC IRONY IS MENTALLY SCREAMING IN MY HEAD, NO NO THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANS.

Saw listens to Ezra this time, next time we see him he's even more apathetic towards the beings in front of him who need help now.

HOW AWESOME WAS IT FOR HERA SLICING THROUGH THIS LIGHT CRUISER? Eh? Eh?

You get such a sense of the speed here.

Ugh, the pictures of the canisters aren't enough, ow, that feels like some kind of Politically Relevant commentary.

And as I said before, the narrative lets Saw get off (this time) with some stern looks from the others, but it's still not completely approving of his actions. He's not the Empire, yet, but he'll come closer and closer to their tactics and methods.

This two-parter episode is almost perfectly paced and it's really well-written. Everything about it works so well.

Solid Rebels content. <3

#star wars #star wars rebels #ezra bridger #space dad and his precious pumpkin child #sabezra #rebels rewatch #liveblog

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that-one-loth-cat · 1 year

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Genuinely one of my favorite things about Sabine Wren and Ezra Bridger’s relationship in canon is that it’s ambiguous. As far as I know, the only thing thats been confirmed is that they mean a lot to each other. Anything else is technically an individual interpretation or an AU.

And I love that! It means that everyone can have their own idea of what’s going on. (Those ideas are all so interesting btw 👀) I just wish we as a fandom could be kinder about it.

See them as siblings? Go ahead. They’re both their own brand of chaos and it’s marvelous. Ezra has extreme younger sibling energy (in my opinion), and I love that he and his sister grow closer as they get older instead of drifting apart.

Think they shine best when they’re just friends? That’s so valid tbh. Strong friendship bonds that don’t include romance (but have the same level of commitment and/or intensity) aren’t super common on screen, which is a shame because there’s so many interesting angles to explore. These two are ride or die for each other by the end of the show. We know that. I’ve seen people saying that this was only possible because Ezra was able to grow out of his crush and I love that way of looking at it.

Hardcore Sabezra shipper? I don’t blame you. It’s a fun ship! Watching rebels with that pair of shipping goggles on is incredibly entertaining. (And gut wrenching. Oh my goodness. The idea that she realized she loved him right before the final attack on Lothal has me on the floor every time I see it)

Right now, the “what’s their deal?” puzzle has no official right answer (other than good friends, which I think most people agree on anyway). I feel like we as a fandom are so mean to each other online over something trivial and that makes me really sad.

TLDR; I feel like Sabine and Ezra’s relationship has a lot of valid fanon interpretations because of how ambiguous their canon relationship is, and I wish we could be nicer to each other about it.

#star wars rebels #discourse #sabine wren #ezra bridger #star wars #there’s a lot of other headcanons I didn’t cover here because it wasn’t about Sabine and Ezra’s relationship specifically #like Sabine as a lesbian #I don’t personally see it (I think she’s bi) but it’s definitely a cool way to interpret her character #or alterous sabezra #which is my favorite way to look at them but I haven’t seen anyone else talk about yet #I just wish we could figure out how to coexist with all of our individual interpretations in peace

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aspiring-spellcaster · 8 months

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Ahsoka episode 3 *my opinions*

What I liked

PURRGIL!!!!!!!!!

JACEN OMG

“How’s young Jacen? Causing trouble with Chopper, no doubt.” Jacen & Chop confirmed menaces

Jacen wants to be a Jedi like his father 🥺

“Aunt Sabine” 😭😭

“I suppose you do come from a long line of non-traditional Jedi.” Disaster lineage >

Ahsoka fighting on the ship in space was pretty cool

I’m definitely intrigued about inter-galaxy hyperspace travel. It opens up so much potential

What I didn’t like

I’m still not sold on Sabine being a force-wielder or Ahsoka’s apprentice. It just feels…unnecessary? I don’t understand why they couldn’t just work together as an (ex) Jedi and a Mandalorian. The master-and-apprentice dynamic really came out of nowhere.

Also apparently anyone can train to use the force now which like ???? No?? That goes against everything we know about Star Wars. Also Sabine is already more than capable of fighting. Ahsoka says she’s going to need the force to defeat the new sith but that’s not true?? Mandalorians are fierce opponents, even against the Jedi as we’ve seen before.

Idk their whole relationship is just not what I expected. Sabine doesn’t need a master. She’s already a skilled warrior and went through character development in rebels that it just feels like we’re rehashing

One last thing that might be petty but I just don’t like the way live action hera looks 😭 I don’t know if it’s the makeup or the actress but it’s not working for me at all

#ahsoka #ahsoka series #ahsoka tano #ahsoka spoilers #sabine wren #hera syndulla #chopper #jacen syndulla #star wars #my post

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narkinafive · 8 months

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ahshowka breakdown! tagged #ahsoka spoilers and #ahshowka

the good:

when i tell you i almost stood up and cheered during the memorial ceremony. i could feel the great cosmic energy surging through my VEINS, senator jai kell and clancy brown and UGH. thank GOD

relatedly, i really liked having hera be the first person to say his name. idk. it felt nice and in character that she still thinks of her crewmember-cum-son-and-boy

i, for one, am really, really really digging the slow, deliberate pacing. time will tell if it ends up more plodding than contemplative, but i love having the space to breathe and observe... almost like a jedi? lol, but mostly i'm happy not to be taken on a roller coaster

kiner bros putting their whole pussy into the soundtrack

EMAN ESFANDI ON THE RECORDING WHEN HE DOES THE LITTLE HEADSCRATCH i was like yes. yes. this man understands

showing sabine's helmet in the foreground and having her twice avoid it to pull out other stuff from under the table. i have so many thoughts

man i love that they're all kind of bitches to each other. i support unlikable women

huyang: man you suck ass at this whole force thing, huh

the... less good:

ignore the makeup ignore the makeup ignore the makeup

i'm interested to see the show tackle the idea of how to transition from empire to republic, and i think it can be a salient critique of capitalism to have the republic essentially absorbing the imperial workforce so as not to stop production, but i am, as always, skeptical, since LF has uh... not been great about this before (i mean narratively, not even like getting into unfortunate implications lmao)

utterly bored with we-have-asajj-ventress-at-home and the other dude (rip ray stevenson tho, what a phenomenal talent) but i'm hopeful that will change!

dreading thrawn just bc i hate thrawn but that is entirely personal and not at all a critique of the show 😂

seated and watching:

i am extraordinarily interested in the sabine/ahsoka dynamic, and i am dying to know more, because it really is reading like a nasty lesbian breakup. which i am totally okay with

i am less... concerned? wary? of sabine as ahsoka's apprentice than i was before we started. idk, given all the visual emphasis on sabine avoiding these two "opposed" poles (avoiding the jedi by not going to ezra's memorial, avoiding the mandalorian by shoving her armor away under the table) i am curious to see how this plays out. it feels like a natural evolution from her rebels arc of choosing her new family in the ghost crew, but inverted? which i'm interested in. idk. feeling hopeful, tho

there's an interesting motif of seeing things through (and failing to do so) in these first two episodes. obviously ezra says that to sabine almost verbatim, but there's also ahsoka walking away from both anakin and sabine before training was completed, there's the new republic failing to fully eradicate imperial sympathies (sometimes deliberately so), and there's something there too, i think, about failing to confirm thrawn's death. or account for his return? anyway. i'm interested

but truly, highlight of the premiere is huyang being like good god you are bad at this

#ahshowka #ahsoka spoilers #also yes ok to rb!

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fandoomrants · 7 months

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Soo, I don't wanna be too grim about it but since we don't see lots of characters in the sequels whereas it would have made sense to see them there, I'm starting to think maybe some of them would be gone by the time ep 7 takes place.

Of course, the first one that would come to mind would be Ahsoka, and the finale of the Ahsoka's season might be giving some explanation for her absence. I have this theory she might not be coming back at all, even if it doesn't necessarily mean she's gonna die.

I hope Sabine comes back, tho. But I think even if she's alive during the events of ep 7, it doesn't make too much sense for her to show up as she's not exactly a powerful Jedi and she just started using the Force but she's not shown as someone who is strong with the Force. (Which I wanna see the explanation of because following this logic, anyone could be trained as a Jedi and eventually learn to use the Force.)

The (remaining) Ghost crew and some of the other rebels can be easily explained by being there but not being shown because they're not too relevant to the story.

And same goes for most of the characters from the Mandalorian and BoBF. They basically have nothing to do with the rebellion and the Jedi stuff. Except Grogu, ofc. But we already saw him training with Luke and deciding to return to Din where he started training as Mandalorian so maybe he won't become a Jedi at all, and is gonna remain (hopefully safe) with his dad.

And there's Jacen for whom everyone is a bit worried after getting the confirmation that he is Force sensitive but after the ending of Ahsoka, I really hope that he won't go to Luke. I want Ezra to train him. That would be great, considering how Ezra was trained by his father. It'll be *chef's kiss*. Still, there should be some explanation for him not showing up too.

And now comes Ezra, who is the main reason for this post, in fact. He was introduced in Rebels as an extremely strong with the Force boy, he was trained, and he's maybe currently one of the strongest remaining Jedi, alongside Ahsoka and Luke. So it would make a lot of sense that he'll be there, now that he's back.

And here comes the grim part. We saw Ezra sacrificing himself more or less when he called the Purrgils, and we saw him returning once again with Thrawn. We know Thrawn's a big threat to the Galaxy but we also know he's not in the sequels or even mentioned so most likely he's defeated before that. And here comes my theory how these two's paths are always crossed.

So, what if in order to defeat Thrawn and get rid of him forever, Ezra sacrifices himself again, this time dying. What then???

#star wars #ahsoka #rebels #ezra bridger #sabine wren #rant #the mandalorian #din djarin #grogu #din grogu #ahsoka tano #ahsoka series #thrawn #grand admiral thrawn #sw ep 7 #star wars sequel trilogy

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thevibraniumveterans · 5 months

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REBELS REWATCH

S2E3 — THE LOST COMMANDERS

Back on board Phoenix Home, Sabine and Hera stand at the centre console, on either side of a live holoprojection of Sato. This episode, Sabine sports a different look — her hair color, once indigo with orange tips, is now navy blue fading into a teal green; instead of short sleeves as she had previously worn under her armor, her jumpsuit now features longer sleeves; the pad on her left shoulder is now purple instead of orange and the one on her right shoulder now has the number 5 referencing her callsign; her wrist gauntlets, once pink, are now orange. Perhaps, due to the blaster dings she acquired last episode, she might have decided to change things up a bit, for aesthetic’s sake. As Sato speaks, Ezra and Kanan walk into the command centre; the teenager dips his head as he nears the console. As a response to Sato noting the severe limitations of going into battle with a halfway broken ship, Ezra speaks up, correcting his manners halfway through: “Maybe we don’t fight, uh, Commander Sato, Sir.” He offers an awkward salute; Sabine shakes her head slightly. (She might be reminding herself of how her background and upbringing is vastly different than that of Ezra’s; he grew up on the streets of Lothal while she had a home, a family, and a school to go to.) Ezra looks up at Sato and continues, “Uh, when things got tough for me on Lothal, I’d go find some place to hide.” Sato notes that Ezra is “never shy” with his opinions, and suggests that “establishing a base is a good idea.” Hera is faced with a dilemma: “Problem is, none of the potential bases we know of have the tactical advantage we need to protect what’s left of our fleet.” Kanan approaches, and continues, “Or aid the nearby systems suffering from Imperial oppression.” Hera tells him, “We can’t help others if we can’t help ourselves. …If only we had more allies…” During this whole exchange, Ahsoka stands by a wall behind Ezra and Sabine, both of whom turn around when Ahsoka speaks up: “I know someone who might be able to help us. A great military commander with a vast knowledge of the Outer Rim. He could assist us in finding a base. And his experienced leadership would make him a powerful ally.” Sato wonders about this mystery man, but Ahsoka notes that she “lost track of him” ages ago, with all her transmissions going “unanswered”. Ezra leans to the side, peering around Sato’s live beam-in, saying, “We can find him. Let us try.” Beside him, Sabine looks hopeful at her friend’s optimism. Ahsoka notes that “there is one option” she’s not tried yet.

Back on the Ghost, Sabine leads Ezra and Kanan back into the pilot’s bay, where Hera and Chopper already are. Sabine takes a seat behind Hera, while Ezra sits in the chair next to it that Sabine has previously preferred enough to paint. Also, it looks like Era might have added a few things to his on-person inventory — a pouch on his left, and a holster for his saber on his right, both hanging from his belt. Anyway, Ahsoka walks in with a droid’s head, which Kanan easily remembers and identifies. Ahsoka more or less confirms it, and speaks fondly of her past, saying that the droid was able to find her and Anakin (unnamed at this point, of course) when they did not want to be located. Ahsoka hands the droid’s head to Sabine, who inspects it curiously. (Which is the exact same thing that would happen many years from now within the first few episodes of the Ahsoka series.) Ezra is also curious; he leans over and asks, “How in all the galaxy is that droid gonna find your friend?” Ahsoka says her friend was last seen in “the Seelos system. You can start there”. Ezra gets up from his seat and asks, “You’re not coming with us?” Ahsoka responds, saying that she’d be busy elsewhere, attending to “questions that need answering” regarding Vader. These questions are more of a personal nature. Ezra, having experienced that unfortunate duel with Vader, wishes to accompany Ahsoka, but she says, “You have your own mission, Ezra. And, Kanan, if you find my friend, you must trust him.” Ezra looks up at Kanan, who responds with, “If he’s all the things you say, we can’t afford not to.” Ahsoka reiterates once more before the door closes: “Trust him.” Ezra raises an eyebrow: “What was that about?” Kanan hasn’t a clue.

The Ghost exits hyperspace in the Seelos system. The Spectres, minus Hera and Chopper (both of whom remain onboard the Ghost to carry out necessary repairs), descend in the Phantom to the planet Seelos. It is a desert planet, with nothing but, well, nothing for miles around. While Ezra stands by Kanan at the pilot’s chair, Sabine, still holding the droid’s head, powers it on and places it on the console in front of Kanan. The droid warbles; Sabine guesses that “it’s scanning for a signal of some kind.” (Side note; while this episode is titled “The Lost Commanders”, Ezra would by the end of S4 earn the rank of Commander and proceed to quite literally get lost in a whole other galaxy. Though this could be a reach and quite possibly nothing more than a mere coincidence, Ahsoka would not be the first time that Sabine had gone looking for a lost commander.) Ezra, with a hint of sarcasm in his voice, says, “Good luck. You could really get lost out here.” Zeb, nearby, doesn’t sound too encouraging either: “Maybe that was the idea. What if this great commander we’re looking for doesn’t want to be found?” Ezra looks uncertain, and turns back to face the droid’s head, which suddenly starts chiming a number, “7567,” which it repeats a few times. Sabine points out the obvious: “It’s homing in on something.” Zeb notices something, and points out the windshield: “There. Up ahead.” The Phantom closes in on their target; an odd and slow-moving transport contraption. It turns out to be a heavily modified All terrain Tactical Enforcer (AT-TE) vehicle. Ezra is fascinated; Sabine, on the other hand, is impressed: “Now, that is a work of art.” Kanan says that it “looks like an old Republic tank…used during the Clone Wars.”

Kanan circles the Phantom on front of the transport once to ensure they are seen, before setting down behind said transport. Kanan warns Ezra to “be on guard”. The teenager raises an eyebrow, shrugs, and follows him, Sabine, and Zeb out of the Phantom. They approach the transport, which has come to a halt; wind chimes gently dinging in the breeze. The transport clearly looks like it has seen better days; its railings are rusted, its roof replaced by shoddy sheet metal; the whole thing nothing more than an inconspicuous scrap of junk. Three Clone Wars veterans — Rex, Wolffe, and Gregor — step outside their transport to greet the Spectres; Zeb is clearly unimpressed: “It’s just a bunch of old geezers.” Sabine notes that they are “well-armed”. Rex asks what the Spectres want, and Kanan tells him, “We’re looking for someone.” Rex snarks back, “Well, that’s too bad, ‘cause there’s nobody out here.” Ezra, remembering the repeated code from earlier, asks: “Hey, uh, does the number 7567 mean anything to you?” Rex is taken aback and demands clarification. Surprised by the veterans’ reaction, Ezra repeats himself, stammering: “Uh, I-I said 7567.” Rex looks off into the distance, noting that he hasn’t “heard those digits in…” years, and reveals that he was assigned that number at creation. Ezra is confused by this; Kanan says that “they’re clones”, and ignites his lightsaber, ready to jump into combat. (Side note; Kanan is a survivor of Order 66, in which the clones who had accompanied him and his master turned on them. Kanan carries this trauma with him, hence his reaction.) Ezra reaches out and tries to prevent any rash action: “Kanan, wait. Stop!” Likewise, Wolffe is surprised, takes aim, and fires: “Jedi. They’ve come for revenge.” Kanan deflects a few blasts, prompting Zeb and Sabine to raise their own weapons at the veterans. Gregor, a bit of a wild card himself, readies his own weapon; Rex orders him and Wolffe to “stand down, trooper. Now. That’s an order, solider.” Wolffe thinks the Jedi were the betrayers, but Rex knows better. Behind Kanan, Ezra reminds: “Ahsoka said to trust them.” Rex tries to joke about the situation, effectively defusing it, and apologizes for the “weapons malfunction”, explaining Wolffe’s defensiveness and saying that he and his two friends “haven’t seen a Jedi since” a decade and half ago. Ezra reassuringly pats Kanan on the back and steps forward, introducing himself and the Spectres. Kanan retracts his saber in response. Ezra gestures first to himself: “Well, my name’s Ezra.” Behind him, the crew lower their weapons, and he gestures to them in turn: “This is Kanan. That’s Sabine and Zeb. I-it’s nice to meet you, 7567.” The veteran responds in kind, introducing himself and his friends: “Actually, my name is Rex. Captain, 501st Clone Battalion. Meet Commanders Gregor and Wolffe.” Ezra says, “We were sent by Ahsoka Tano.” Rex is surprised: “Ahsoka Tano, Hm. I fought by her side from the Battle of Christophsis to the Siege of Mandalore. And a friend of hers is a friend of mine.” Ezra is amazed at this bit of information.

The Spectres are invited onto the transport; Ezra, not even a few paces in, notices three helmets belonging to the veterans. In complete awe, he picks up Rex’s helmet to get a better look. Rex reminds him to go “easy with those”. Ezra snarks back good-naturedly: “Oh, yeah. I might move the dust.” He puts the helmet down. Sabine, on the other hand, removes her helmet upon walking in. Rex sighs and asks, “How is Commander Tano?” Looking first from Kanan and Sabine before addressing Rex again, Ezra tries the door-in-the-face technique, saying, “Uh, well, in need of help. We all are. Look, we’re trying to fight the Empire, but we’re outnumbered, overmatched and taking a beating. We could use your help.” Rex notes of his own retirement, “Well, I’m not sure I’m much help to anyone these days.” He crosses his arms, and explains, “Didn’t you hear? The Emperor said the clone army has our served its purpose and retired us. Now we spend our days just telling stories and slinging for joopas.” Kanan, disillusioned, speaks up from the back: “This was a wasted trip. You heard the clone. He’s not interested.” Ezra tries again: “Wait. You don’t like the Empire, do you?” Rex says that it “certainly isn’t the Republic” but isn’t optimistic. Ezra says, “You could fight.” Rex apologizes, saying his “days as a soldier are over.” Not wanting to give up, Ezra tries the foot-in-the-door compliance technique, saying, “Well, okay. Okay, then maybe there’s one thing you can help us with. We need a base. Ahsoka said you knew about all sorts of secret locations in the Outer Rim.” Rex glances at his buddies before replying: “Well, my memory isn’t what it once was, but, um—” He stands up. “—there are a few spots I never bothered to report to the Empire. Look, why don’t you just wait outside and I’ll put together a list of coordinates.” Ezra turns around and starts heading out, following Zeb and Sabine.

It is merely a minute or two since the Spectres stepped outside the room. Kanan stares blankly out to the horizon; Sabine leans backward by the railing, propped up by her elbows; Ezra sits on a slanted ledge just by the doorway, his expression unreadable. (Though it is unclear where Sabine is looking, it seems as if though Ezra is either looking at her or just beyond her shoulder.) Gregor steps outside, offering them a proposition: “Since we’re providing you with a list of bases, um—” This catches Ezra’s attention. “—there’s something you can do to help us.” Kanan turns down the offer, but Ezra is optimistic: “Sure. What can we do?” Gregor walks forward and replies, “Out there, deep below, roam the joopa. Elusive big game.” He chuckles as Ezra approaches, and continues, “When we’re lucky to sling one in, it’ll feed us for the whole year.” Sabine is curious: “Okay. What do you need?” Gregor grins, and points to Zeb.

The Phantom is parked backwards atop the transport, which is on the move again. Ezra finds Kanan aboard the Phantom, and remarks, “Okay. You don’t trust these clones but they haven’t done anything.” Ezra does not have the context, having been born the day the Empire was formed. Kanan, clearly recalling how he narrowly made his escape many years prior, says, “You don’t understand. They’re dangerous. They could—” Ezra interrupts: “They could what? Rex doesn’t seem bad at all. Ahsoka said to trust him. You trust her, don’t you?” Kanan shoots back, “You weren’t there, You weren’t even born.” Ezra is confused: “What are you talking about?” Kanan does not want to talk about it; slightly dejected, Ezra walks off. Kanan picks up on the teenager’s confusion, and begrudgingly admits: “It was at the end, the end of the war.” Ezra turns around. Kanan continues, “Our fellow soldiers, the clones, the ones we Jedi fought side by side with, suddenly turned and betrayed us. I watched them kill my master.” Ezra, shocked as he is at this revelation, glances downward, frowning. Kanan goes on, “She fought beside them for years and they gunned her down in a second and then came for me. Later, they said they had chips in their heads that made them do it. Said they had no choice.” Rex, having come by and overheard the conversation, offers his perspective: “I didn’t betray my Jedi. Wolffe, Gregor, and I all removed our control chips.” He points to the scar on the side of his head, before saying, “We all have a choice.” He walks off. Ezra turns back to Kanan and tells him, “Well, for what it’s worth, I believe we can trust Rex.” Ezra turns back around and walks out of the Phantom, leaving Kanan to his thoughts. The teenager descends a short ladder, and finds Sabine standing at the end of an external walkway. Careful to not bump into her on the swaying transport, Ezra makes his way over to Gregor, ducking under a cannon as he goes. The trio watch Zeb down at ground level. Sabine spots something in the distance, pointing to it: “Out there!” Rex instructs Wolffe to bring the transport to a halt, which he does. Over the next few minutes, Ezra realizes — no thanks to Gregor’s ramblings — that Zeb is “not the hunter. He’s the bait.” Gregor doesn’t see the difference; behind him, Ezra throws his hands up in frustration. Kanan disagrees, saying “it’s not” the same, and warns Zeb to “better get back here right now.” Sabine asks Zeb what it is, and Ezra chimes in with another warning, “Buddy, run! You’re the bait! Zeb, it’s gonna eat you!” The ground cracks with increasing speed toward the group as a whole. Ezra, Sabine, and Kanan yell out to Zeb to get away as soon as he can, but he gets pulled under by a mysterious appendage. Wolffe gets the modified AT-TE transport on the move again; Rex addresses Sabine, saying, “Hey, I bet you know a thing or two about mechanics.” She looks up, and confirms it with a smile: “Yeah, good bet.” She heads up the ladder. Rex advises her to “keep an eye on this regulator.” He points at the item in question, explaining that “the line can overheat and shut down. No line, no joopa, no Zeb.” Sabine says, “Got it.” At the front of the transport, Ezra turns around and wonders, “Well, what about me and him?” Gregor instructs Ezra and Kanan to charge the electro-wire a few times. The transport comes to a halt, and Ezra uses the staff to reach for the wire but is not quite able to reach it. He calls out to Sabine, who is all the way at the top of the transport by the regulator Rex pointed out earlier, working on fixing it. She gets it fixed, and Kanan kick-flips his borrowed staff up to Ezra, who uses both staves to charge the wire.

The massive creature beneath the sands rears up out of the ground; Rex fires a single shot and the animal collapses onto its side. Having done his part, Zeb tells Kanan of his triumphant success. Ezra gives Zeb a thumbs up, and turns around as Rex approaches him and says, “And you are a natural.” Kanan wants to get a receive those coordinates and get a move on; Rex suggests staying for dinner. Ezra couldn’t agree more: “Can’t say no to that. Right, Kanan?”

Sunset. Or what passes for a sunset on Seelos anyway. On the transport, both Sabine and Ezra stand outside the transport’s door, each somewhat leaning on the railing, lost in their own thoughts. Both turn around when Rex steps outside and informs them he’s “assembled a list of potential bases and clearance codes and a few protocols the Imperials still use. Should be of some use.” Ezra thanks him. Rex notes, “They’re on our main computer. You’re gonna need—” Sabine already knows the required items are “Data tapes? I’ve got this.” She briskly brushes past Rex and through the door. Rex chooses to not comment on that, and instead, approaches Ezra and commends him: “You were brave today, kid. You jumped right in there to help.” They turn around and lean on the railing. Rex continues, “A great Jedi once told me that the best leaders lead by example. You do that well.” Ezra humbly accepts the praise, saying, “Thanks. I’ve learned from a great Jedi, too. Kanan.” Ezra turns to the man in question, who chooses to stare out into the horizon. Rex agrees, but notes, “You know, I don’t think he likes me. Or ever will.” Ezra frowns and turns to Rex, who continues, “Can’t say I blame him. The war left its scars on all of us.” Curious, the teenager asks, “Won’t you reconsider joining us?” Rex is pensive: “You know, I’ve outserved my purpose for that kind of fighting, I’m afraid. After the war, I questioned the point of the whole thing. All those men died, and for what?” (In real life, there are veterans who question why they even fought for wars they could never have won, they question why so many of their friends and comrades die. To have Rex so blatantly state his distaste for war is a reflection and almost certainly a callback to George Lucas’ own thoughts on the Vietnam War and how he based Star Wars around that, where grassroots rebels with budget weapons go up against a more established imperial power with armies and militaries at their behest.) Ezra isn’t so sure either: “I guess what they thought was right.” (From a certain point of view, this statement is true, but none of them could really have known their true purpose.)

During this conversation, Sabine has stepped inside. She pushes a few buttons and waits for the expected response, but frowns in suspicion. She steps back outside, announcing, “The clones gave us up. They warned the Empire we’re here.” Ezra is in disbelief, given his conversation with Rex: “Wait, what?” Rex says, “You’re mistaken. We would never do that.” Sabine shows him the datapad: “Oh, I found the binary transmission to the Empire. And there are messages Ahsoka sent to Rex and he never answered her!” Rex is astounded and taken aback: “What? I never got any messages from Commander Tano.” Kanan overhears and thinks the clones can’t be trusted, but Ezra wants to know the full story before anything drastic happens. He turns to Rex and asks, “Is this true?” Rex, for his part, turns to Wolffe: “What did you do?” Wolffe admits to contacting the Empire, reasoning, “If they found out that we were helping Jedi, they’d wipe us out.” Behind them, Kanan instructs Sabine to “warn Hera. Tell her to scan for incoming ships.” Ezra watches the exchange before him in confusion. Wolffe says that he “wanted to protect you guys, protect our squad.” Rex reminds him, “The war is over. We are free men. We can’t live under the fear of the Empire for the rest of our lives, Wolffe. That’s not freedom.” Ezra remains standing there. Wolffe begrudgingly agrees and apologizes: “They’re not our enemy. I’m sorry.” Sabine reaches the Phantom and discovers “A probe?” She narrowly dodges a laser shot and calls for Kanan, who heads down with his blaster. Ezra, on the other hand, fetches a long range rifle and tosses it up to Rex, telling him, “You gotta make this right.” Rex shoulders the rifle and takes aim; Ezra, on the other hand, steps onto a rung of the ladder behind him and watches. Rex fires, and the probe shorts out before exploding. Ezra is all smiles. From a nearby ledge, Sabine grins and congratulates the veteran: “Nice shot.” Ezra looks on as Rex exchanges a single look with Kanan, who walks off; the teenager watches Rex walk away.

Later that evening, Ezra, Kanan, Zeb, and Rex stand around the smoking heap that is the probe droid from earlier. Sabine approaches the group. Ezra wonders, “How long as this thin green watching us?” Kanan responds, “Long enough.” He turns to Sabine: “How’s the Phantom?” Sabine reports: “Well, engine took a direct hit. We’re not going anywhere until I can fix it.” Zeb realizes this means they’re all stranded until further notice; Rex solemnly agrees, and notes, “and the Empire’s on its way.” Unsettled, Ezra looks to the skies above them, and the others do the same.

#star wars #star wars rebels #rebels rewatch #ezra bridger #sabine wren #hera syndulla #kanan jarrus #garazeb orrelios #captain rex #commander wolffe #ahsoka tano #sabezra #ezrabine #my notes

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just-prime · 7 months

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Take 6 I guess...

Wow. Just everything about that is wrong.

A cool visual here or there for sure. Whale falls in space? Fucking impeccable. The Chimaera fixed up with the gold plating? Very pretty. The weird Dark Crystal horse thing? Strangely cute.

Getting some Baylan backstory was nice, and he continues to the MVP both acting and writing-wise.

Have I run out of nice things to say? Yes

First off, fuck the 'a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away' shit. This show has not earned that! Not in the slightest!!!

Also I know it's supposed to be super mega turbo hyperspace…but still, it looked like utter shit. I can't understand how a show with this level of budget keeps shitting out crappy visuals...Oh wait it's Disney! Nevermind, makes total sense.

All the stuff with the nightsisters? FUCKING DUMB. Nowadays, no one cares about the nightsisters anymore unless it's Merrin or Ventriss, and Elsbeth is a far cry from either of them. I was worried from the start when the map temple was clearly nightsister in origin, and Elsbeth being revealed as one in hiding made absolutely no sense. It's weird and very much Filoni throwing darts at Clone Wars arcs he wants to rehash and recon. Also, the live action Mothers are lacking the grandiose nature that made Talzin have such compelling character design.

The fact that Sabine never slipped the cuffs seemed deeply weird. As did Thrawn somehow having an entire battalions-worth of Stormtroopers who survived the ship crash. There was also a throwaway line about some of the rando bandits on the world being Jedi trained, which REALLY came out of nowhere, but is clearly setting up Ezra having learned new skills.

Oh and Ezra shows up, is ALSO wearing noticeable contacts (blue). He looks way too old, and I felt absolutely nothing when he and Sabine hugged.

Okay, on to why we are all here...Thrawn

Let's start of with the mandatory FUCK YOU FILONI.

There was weirdly bad music through this entire sequence too, which was glaringly noticeable. Just to you know...set the mood for the butchering going on.

HE'S TOO PALE!!! They colored him like everything else in this show, copied whatever colors Rebels used, and then mutes the hell out of it. So everything looks washed out and sad. Also I don't know what it is about the eyes that feels off but there's something there that hits uncanny valley in a way that I feel could have been easily avoidable...

Yeah, and all the 'Army of the Dead' rumors that have been going around are all confirmed. They are literally emptying the catacombs of this ancient nightsister city directly into the cargo hold of the Chimera. It's so dumb. I hate this.

Two more episodes left, and given the rate of the leaks being true, it's probably gonna end on a cliffhanger, which is gonna be fucking stupid. So yeah. I'm gonna go scroll @ascyndic's blog so my eyes can rest and look at some incredible art of how Chiss should look...And potentially reread @furiosophie's fucking incredible post·mor·tem series to get a hit of realistic Thrawn characterization...as opposed to whatever this gross HttE ripoff swill we got.s

#ahsoka critical #dave filoni critical #ahsoka spoilers #ahsoka series #rambles #thrawn #nightsisters #ezra bridger #sabine wren #star wars #anti filoni

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niobiumao3 · 7 months

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So that was all interesting...

Kind of obviously Season 2--or a Thrawn series, or however they're doing this--was meant to have a B plot of Baylan Blows Up The Force/Kills Baby Hitler. And uh, that's awkward now. I guess we'll see?

Morai!!!!!!!! ;.; But she also confirms that was the goal, that there's a World Between Worlds portal here, or a Zeffo pocket realm, something.

Shin joining the Marauders is real fun, actually, kinda looking forward to where that goes. (whispering: she joins Sabine and Ahsoka)

Man. Ray. I'm heartbroken imagining an entire backstory for Baylan which was probably forthcoming and now we may never see. Ah well. I can write fanfic.

Okay but what is this, Ezra and Sabine not remembering the whole BS from when they got the Darksaber in Rebels? Pfffffft. That was dumb. They've seen Nightsister nonsense before.

But guess what GUESS. WHAT. EZRA TRAINING JACEN. THE DREAM IS REAL.

It had a rocky start--that first episode coulda been better--but it was fun. I'll rewatch bits I think, eventually.

#ahsoka #ahsoka spoilers #spoilers #WHERE IS MY TBB S3 TRAILER DISNEY

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nimata-beroya · 8 months

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MY THOUGHTS ON AHSOKA- Part 3 "Time to Fly"

My first thought: it was much better than the first 2. Altho, I wish it had been a tad longer, even if the length is somewhat consistent with the Mandoverse shows.

As a Rebels fan, I feel fed. I finally got to see 1 character out of the 4 I want to see, so there's hope that soon I'll see the rest. Right, Filoni? RIGHT?!!

Hopes aside, let's get to the details of this episode.

I loved Sabine's training session, both with Huyang and Ahsoka. It reminded me a lot of The Trials of the Darksaber. The constant callbacks are impossible not to have them. And Huyang, please!! 🤣

Also, I loved the music during that scene (and throughout the whole episode). Well, is Kevin Kiner, what else could I have expected but greatness?

Honestly, I knew that the meeting with the senators and Mon Mothma was going to go as exactly as it went. I knew Hamato Xiono was going to be that jerk, and the rest of the senators wouldn't be any better. What I did love was Mon asking for Jacen (!!! which gave me hope to see him soon) and joking about the chaos the kid and Chopper surely were causing. My headcanon is that Mon is just remembering their shenanigans in Yavin 4 or Hoth or whatever else Hera has been stationed since then.

And I'm glad that they pointed out that even Hera believed Ezra is dead, she still looked for him. As I said in my review last week, I think Hera made herself believe that, otherwise she couldn't have lived her life, and raise Jacen and fight in the rebellion and now help with the new republic. The uncertainty of someone's disappearance is much harder to bear than their death.

Oh my gosh! The scream I let out when Jacen appeared!! 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭 He's so precious!!! With his green hair and saying Aunt Sabine (that means he calls Uncles Zeb and Alex/Sasha/Kallus, right?) and wanting to be a jedi just like his dad was (Would have been too much to name Kanan, just once??!!) Anyway... we got live-action Jacen!!!!!!

I love the conversation about the force between Ahsoka and Sabine. It put to rest some of my doubts about the whole Sabine being Ahsoka's padawan thing. How they explained it is pretty much how I think the Force works, so it felt good to have it explicitly confirmed in canon. And like it has been said, just talent isn't enough, just like in real life. Some people have a natural talent for an art or anything really, and if they cultivate it, then they'll excel at it. But that doesn't mean that other people less talented cannot reach the same level of excellence; they just need to work harder to get there.

And the opposite is also true. If a talented person doesn't work on their talent, it can become stagnant or even lose the ability altogether. With the Jedi, we've seen it with many Order 66 survivors. Obi-Wan, Kanan, Cere, Cal, Grogu, etc., they cut themselves from the Force either on purpose or as a trauma response, and all had to work to gain the control of his powers back.

Also, I think seeing the Force this way, it recognizes the different religions and presentation of the Force throughout the galaxy. People like Sabine or Chirrut Imwe or even Han Solo, or entire species like the Lasat or Chiss that for whatever reason the Force works different for them.

About the comment about the standards that Jedi had to accept younglings in the Order, I mean, I get it. The jedi couldn't accept everyone. They had to focus on those who had better chances to keep up with the training. Not just that, those were also at a greater risk to misuse the Force if they managed to gain some control over it on their own or under bad influences.

Huyang mentioning the disaster lineage was the best!!

The dog fight was great. Marrok finally spoke, and as expected, the baddies in fighting couldn't be left out. And I love that when Ahsoka and Sabine started to work together is when they shot down the fighters. And Ahsoka going outside in a space suit felt taken out of an episode of TCW. Really cool!

PURRGIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have Purrgil!!!!!!!!!!!! I love those space whales/squids things so much. My only complaint is that they should've destroyed at least one of the fighters. I mean, aren't the Purrgils famous for destroying ships that come in contact with? I'm just saying!

Like I said in the beginning, I love this episode, and it has my hyped for what will come next! 👉👈 Is it Tuesday yet? 🥺

#episode review #ahsoka show #ahsoka spoilers #ahsoka tano #sabine wren #hera syndulla #jacen syndulla #mon mothma #hamato xiono

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melhekhelmurkun · 8 months

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Barely halfway into the first episode of Ahsoka and already I’m finding issues with the continuity of the storyline they’re telling.

Right off the bat, the scrolling intro names Ahsoka as a “former Jedi Knight”, which is false; she was a Padawan when she left the Jedi Order. Then they make Sabine Wren, a Mandalorian and notably NON-Force-Sensitive, her apprentice??? The fuck??? So is she Sensitive or is she not? Rebels supposedly confirmed that she wasn’t (there was a conversation with Kanan that implied she wasn’t, and that he was just teaching her how to use a lightsaber) but why would Ahsoka take her as an apprentice then?

Also, what happened to Sabine’s hair :/

#feel free to correct me on anything #especially the Rebels part #I never actually watched Rebels #didn’t like the animation style #I’m picky #Star Wars #star wars ahsoka #ahsoka spoilers

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Rebels Rewatch: "Dume"

*pulling out more tissues* Anyone still need these? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? I am way too young to be making that joke.

Live reaction version.

As if to rub things in, this episode starts moments after the previous one ended. The fireball is under control, finally, though still burning, and an officer comes up to Pryce to confirm the news:

Kanan is dead.

Pryce knows she's made a mess of things but latches onto this fact as a way to still look good in front of Imperial High Command, deciding to throw a sick kind of celebration for it. In a twisted way, the Jedi also represents "hope" to someone as despicable as Pryce.

Oh man, he doesn't know. He's so happy to see them.

Zeb's first hint that things didn't go as planned is Sabine hurling off her pilot helmet, swiping her eyes angrily as she passes him in complete silence.

And then the near-comatose Hera, dead on her feet, staring up blankly towards the horizon and Ezra shaking his head because he can't help her.

Chopper rushing immediately to Hera's side because he knows her, knows something is horribly wrong.

Zeb grabbing Ezra by the shoulders and he barely reacts to it.

"Kanan's gone." is all he can say, and his anguish when he has to repeat it when Zeb asks for clarification, the anger and sorrow, the way his voice shakes...

And Zeb's expression drops in horror and he wordlessly pulls Ezra into an embrace.

I WANTED THEM TO HUG BUT NOT LIKE THIS.

And Chopper silently holding Hera's hand. :((((

They bring back the white titlecard too, just to remind you we're still in mourning.

It gets a bit lost with everything that happened, but the attack on Lothal's factories? That was two days ago. The disastrous failure and loss of 24! fighters is going to be very fresh on the Alliance's minds, and add Kanan's death to the mix and they absolutely will not risk any more hardware and personnel on Lothal. The Spectres will have to fix things from within, on their own, by themselves.

Which they gradually discover that they have started to. The Alliance's primary goal on Lothal was preventing the Defenders from being manufactured, and Kanan accomplished that. Anything in addition to that is cake topping for the Alliance, Lothal goes back to being one of the thousands of worlds in the Imperial-occupied crowd they have to face down.

They don't know about the Temple. And that's why Lothal also needed Ezra.

Who, after an outfit and scene change, is about to be as functionally useless and paralyzed as Hera.

:(((((((

I was unclear on why the wolves were so angry the first time through. It's clearer now that they're trying to snap Ezra out of his funk, because time is running out and they can't afford for him to sit there and be depressed about things, they need him to move, they need him in action. They're not kind about it, but the reality is not kind, If Ezra does not get himself together, Palpatine will gain the WBW, Lothal will be doomed, everyone will die.

Bit a lot more headcanon-y but also I think the Loth-wolves may have preferred Kanan be the one to enter the WBW and save it? Owing to [gestures to unanswered mystery box about Kanan's past they hinted at]. Maybe? So maybe they were also just a little pissy that their first choice went and got himself killed even after they warned him.

Like I said, speculation and spitballing on my part on that one.

Anyway.

Ezra runs away from the Loth-wolves' attempts to confront him and I already praised it in my first watch but the camerawork is excellent here. Very nicely staged, good insets, good tracking shots, good dollying.

The Loth-wolves actually pause here, waiting, watching Ezra to see what what he'll do. Ezra had the full opportunity to reach out and connect, and talk to them, but he chooses not to, running away again.

So they wind up knocking him out when they knock him down.

Meanwhile at Imperial HQ, good lord that is a lot of smoke. It's literally blurring the edges of the Dome.

Pryce seems very pleased with herself for killing the Jedi. Too bad Thrawn literally doesn't care about that, because he's pissed she let Hera Syndulla escape and also the whole fuel depot thing. Thrawn says he's not in it for glory but I think he does take some personal satisfaction from defeating someone he considers a Worthy Opponent. Hera was his victory and Pryce undid it as soon as he was gone. That has to sting, lol.

And Rukh is grinning like, "Sucks to be you, bitch."

I don't know if we're meant to take Hera's, "Why did I wait so long to tell him?" as being about saying I love you or about being pregnant but I'm going to go with the latter because, again, the suggestion that that was the first time she'd actually told him is dumb and I won't entertain it.

Chopper is so very present for Hera through all this, even when Hera regrets even starting the Rebellion in the first place.

I think a few people have speculated that each of the Spectres represents a stage of grief. Ezra's stuck in a certain kind of Denial, and gets tempted with the Bargaining stage an episode later. Sabine and Zeb are both Anger. Hera is obviously Depression.

Eventually all of them reach Acceptance. Chopper may have already been there.

Zeb is actually the one who notices first that the factories are completely shut down, which is a nice touch.

I can't quite tell if Ezra wakes up in the same location he was knocked out in or if the wolves moved him. He bolts up in a different position so there's room to argue they moved him, possibly on Dume's orders.

Subtle animation appreciation moment: Ezra stumbling like he's falling asleep on his feet.

He looks so tired. And he's stuck. Emotionally and physically.

Maybe that's why he turns to the children's nursery rhyme like he did in Season One's "Path of the Jedi" to try and decide a way forward. But he keeps rejecting the options he lands on. So he does it again. And again.

Until a manifestation of Kanan appears, like it did before, to get him back on track.

Sabine holding back on her Mandalorian revenge instincts, implicitly because of Kanan's Jedi influence. T_T

Watch the sky in this part, you can see the hue shift to purple.

The Dume wolf sniffs him and he immediately stirs with a confused, "Kanan?" ow my heart.

Some Endgame-like trumpets and drums in this part.

Zeb has height and strength going for him here, but Ruhk is so much faster and quicker. Not to mention has the stealth cloaking. Sabine's helmet gives her a leg up on that momentarily until it's knocked off.

Back with Ezra in the wolf-vision and Kanan-as-Dume interacts with Ezra in a very pointed, Force-y way, dragging out the truth from Ezra about why he ran, why he's stuck, what's holding him back.

"You... ran." It sounds almost accusatory. Ezra gives a weak excuse about the wolves chasing him, but upon being pressed again starts letting things out:

I feel lost, I'm afraid, I don't believe in myself without him, I can't do this on my own.

Ezra's grief is tied up and tangled in his self-esteem issues, a bit self-pitying and "woe is me", because without Kanan he doesn't feel brave or strong, he's not special he's not like Kanan.

Who is he but a child, a "boy who was lost", without his wise brave master? He's nobody.

"I am afraid, all right?! I'm afraid. Everything seems so hopeless now."

Frick I need to hug him. :(

Zeb gets a little bit too into his anger when Sabine's exploding paint finally lets them see Rukh enough to smack him good.

Sabine being the voice of mercy when there aren't Jedi around to do it. :(((((

Back with Ezra and the wolves have given him the keystone and finally explain what the deal is: The Jedi Temple is in grave danger. Secrets and knowledge lie within, that the Empire cannot get hold of. Those words are not a coincidence. We're meant to think back to Malachor, to where it first all went wrong, as Ezra's sentiment goes.

Still not quite sure why the Dume wolf had to bite Ezra out of his vision but Imma chalk it up to another mysterious wolf thing.

Ezra immediately yelling out for Kanan tho. :(

Sabine and Zeb like troublesome siblings pulling a prank as they send Rukh off painted and humiliated lol.

Meanwhile Hera has added a new bead to the Kalikori, representative of Kanan and using a piece that looks like a Jedi holocron shard.

Sabine looks so genuinely happy here.

Ezra's functional enough for now, so he's back too, and we end on the cliffhanger of the Lothal Temple in danger, the secrets within about to be seized by the Empire.

The last half of Season Four is very tightly written, this episode a prime example. It's breathing space for us to grieve, and it still is seamlessly tied to the plot in the episodes prior and after.

The Dume wolf operates, as Ahsoka would suggest later, as an extension of Kanan's will, working Ezra through the blocks in his head one last time, like he did in "Gathering Forces". Ezra wouldn't fully recover until after "The World Between Worlds" but he's on the way to properly grieving, shelving his feelings for the moment in order to do what he has to, what only he can.

And boy am I looking forward to that. :)

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