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omegalomania · 2 years
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Wait why does everyone hate brendon urie again?
i was tempted to just say "google it" but honestly panic's pr team is working doubletime to sanitize this bastard so here's a quick primer for those who are out of the loop.
this got long so i’m putting it under a cut. as a warning, this is going to have discussions and screenshots of people saying and doing extremely morally reprehensible shit, including racist, homophobic, and transphobic language, sexual harassment of minors, and more. tread with caution.
i'm also going to top this off with the caveat that brendon has a history of saying generally stupid and casually shitty things that a lot of people have noticed and called attention to, but these were largely unremarkable in the sense that they were the sort of things that i was not surprised to hear a privileged cis dude say. so while that's definitely a factor - the guy has said very shitty, openly racist, gross things, etc., numerous times and on numerous platforms and i do not want to overlook that - i also don't want to pretend like that’s the only thing going on here because there is a lot of other heinous shit at work.
i’m also not going to go into the intricacies of song meanings or lyrics and the like aside from a couple touchstone examples. it’s pretty public knowledge by now that i don’t know how but they found me (henceforth referred to as idkhow, fronted by dallon weekes, who worked/toured with panic for a good eight years as its bassist) has quite a few numbers that take implicit and explicit aim at panic, most prominently the video for their single “do it all the time,” which featured dallon setting fire to all the suits he used to wear on tour with the band. it’s an open secret that dallon was not treated very well during his time with panic, but we’ll get to that. the point here is that i don’t want to focus on conjecture of speculation when we have a wealth of very hard evidence at our disposal.
so let’s get into it.
the real Poop started up late 2019 iirc, when numerous panic fans started passing around stories about zack hall, panic's bodyguard and security guy who had been with the band since the fever era. as the only person who had actually been with the band as long as brendon himself, zack had a fair amount of sway with the fans and was notably very very close with brendon. as more and more people spoke up, it became apparent that zack had done a whole lot of things that i would term as "incredibly fucked up" over the years with people being generally afraid to say anything. it’s been pointed out to me that these accusations only picked up traction around that time; fans have been raising flags about zack’s behavior for years without any reaction from panic’s management.
around this time, discussion began circulating that brendon himself had sexually harassed/assaulted multiple fans (many of them minors at the time). some of these accusations, such as his attempt to solicit nudes from fans, have proven to be way muddier to and harder to confirm, seeing as brendon was allegedly not in charge of his socials for some of this time and one of the people using his handles to solicit fans for nudes was reportedly a former stalker of his, chelsey lynn.
i think it is worth noting that brendon has brought up his history with “stage gay” with founding member, guitarist, composer, and lyricist ryan ross and mentioned that brendon’s attempts to get handsy on stage were not always taken kindly (emphasis mine):
For our first headline tour I would go up to Ryan our guitar player, and like kiss him on the neck or kiss him on the mouth and he would be so mad. I was like, I just want to kiss you bro.
(that’s also the interview where brendon tried to both-sides the issue of roseanne being a hideous fucking racist. so, fun stuff.)
in any case, it took brendon four months to respond to any of the accusations leveled at him and zack. he ended up doing so by filming a two-minute apology on his twitch account (which was locked to subscribers only, meaning it was essentially monetized) [twitter thread summary for those who can't stomach it], only to say that he was just too anxious to say anything and that while zack had been removed from his position, he and brendon would remain close friends. he did not respond to any of the allegations against himself, and proceeded to basically go completely radio silent on all social media until reemerging in 2022 to promote viva las vengeance.
(contrast to this to how speedily he fired touring guitarist kenny harris in 2018 when multiple allegations arose that he was soliciting underage girls. he was removed from the tour in less than twenty-four hours. while the expediency of this was praised at the time, it retroactively raises a lot of questions as to how much brendon and/or zack knew about this behavior beforehand and were simply waiting for a good PR call to do something about it.)
brendon seeing no issues with zack’s behavior and only doing something about it when backed into a corner is very much not a good look, and is suggestive of the possibility that he’s complicit in or at the very least tolerant of this kind of fuckery.
but wait. theres more.
beyond the genuine fucked up behavior, brendon also has a history of severely mistreating his bandmates. we could get into the politics of the infamous schism that split founding member ryan ross (along with bassist jon walker) from brendon and the band’s drummer, spencer smith, but that is its own bag of worms and this post is long enough already. that drama is very well-covered. however, i think it’s worth noting that out of every single member of the band that has come through it, both creative contributor and touring member, the only former member to depart the band amiably was spencer, who took his leave because of struggles with alcoholism. he’s the only one who remains on good terms with brendon to this day, but he’s also technically brendon’s boss at this point since he helps manage the label dcd2, of which panic at the disco is a part.
most apparent and well-documented of brendon’s spotty history with his own bandmates is his treatment of dallon weekes and his wife, breezy weekes, while the former was writing and touring with the band. in that little zack hall clusterfuck above you can see places where breezy talked about being repeatedly harassed but electing to keep quiet so that dallon wouldn't risk losing his job. reportedly they both went to panic's management to put a stop to it, but the bad behavior continued, with both zack hall and brendon’s wife, sarah urie, as propagators. there was public outcry as people insisted that dallon and breezy were making this up for attention. however, eventually former touring guitarist (from 2009-2012) ian crawford (along with his sister), both spoke up to corroborate that zack's behavior (and brendon's enabling of it) were very much recurring issues and were part of the reason that ian left panic in the first place. ian's twitter is no longer active, so all i have are screenshots on tumblr for this one.
dallon has not spoken of his time spent with panic with much fondness. he replaced bassist jon walker in 2009 and contributed creatively on both vices and virtues (2011) and too weird to live, too rare to die (2013). for the former, he was responsible for the concept and album art. for the latter, he got writing credit for all but two of the tracks (casual affair and end of all things), and you can even find an early version of "far too young to die" that was originally penned for one of dallon's earlier projects, the brobecks. the controversial track "girls/girls/boys" (as well as “all the boys”) from too weird was written for dallon's wife, breezy, as a celebration for her pansexuality. the finished product would end up being about an alleged threesome brendon had.
in 2015 dallon stated that he would no longer be involved in panic’s writing process but would continue to serve as touring bassist before departing officially in 2017 and focusing all his efforts on the aforementioned idkhow along with former falling in reverse drummer (and former fellow brobecks bandmate) ryan seaman. while dallon has remained relatively cagey about his time with panic (as is entirely within his rights), he has on occasion commented that he often felt bullied and belittled in the workplace, and once referred to zack hall as "the actual worst person [he had] ever met."
breezy has been more frank about what dallon had to deal with during his time with the band and over time, dallon has been more up front about this as well. turns out dallon was underpaid to the point where he had to take up a second job cleaning carpets while touring with panic, and working side jobs and donating plasma for gas money between tours. this continued well into 2010 and possibly for longer. the ratio was reportedly something like $400 a night compared to brendon's $15k paycheck, so take that as you will.
that's most of what i can remember. i tried to sauce everything i could but please let me know if i missed anything. i also tried to embed the images but doing so kept breaking the damn post cause this is a webbed site so you only get links SORRY
tldr brendon urie is self-absorbed prick who hoards credit, mistreats his musicians, shelters predators, and may very well be a predator himself. fuck him.
also, while i definitely don't want to downplay the severity of just how horrendous a lot of this shit is, in the interests of not wrapping this on a totally down note i do want to mention that people were writing brendon and panic out of the "emo trinity" legacy as early as mid-2019 because everyone hated pray for the wicked that fucking much. after having to endure the musical travesty that is high hopes innumerable times during every single 20-minute grocery store run i was ready to chalk up my dislike of him to sheer annoyance so you can imagine my surprise when i learned that not only was this annoyance justified i wasn't actually hating him nearly enough.
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disabledhedgehogs · 6 months
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this is a blog dedicated to disabled sonic characters (both canon and headcanon). because i thought it would be cool to have a spot where you can easily find a bunch of that stuff since disability headcanons often dont get as much attention as other types of headcanons. i will reblog art, textposts, basically anything that focuses on sonic and disability in some way. i also have asks and submissions open if you wanna tell me your headcanons or talk to me about anything that would be relevant to the blog theme . im ok with people who arent disabled interacting and sending asks and such just please be respectful! my main is @sonknuxadow
stuff that is NOT allowed on this blog under any circumstances:
anything that promotes ableism obviously. but also anything that promotes hate towards any other minority group like racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc etc
pedo/incest ships, any sort of nsfw/sexual content of sonic characters especially the ones who are teenagers or little kids, and people who post that sort of stuff. if you feel the need to argue with me over this: dont. i dont feel like it
anything where a character was obviously only made disabled for angst or horror fuel and no other reason . this doesnt mean angsty content or content exploring the harder parts of being or becoming disabled is completely banned though, im more talking about like. gore fanart of sonic with his leg missing or super dark aus where a character is made disabled just to add to the angst and such
ok uhh thats all the important stuff for now i think . 👍
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sketchy-galaxy · 10 months
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I've been so creatively exhausted I haven't been drawing at all, so take this sketch/design for a Titan!Starr cause I LOVE the TOH titans!!
I also like the idea that some Titans are naturally 'attuned' to different magic (Light glyphs being the first many master and most titans have it as one of their glyph) so instead of having her basic glyphs be fire, ice, and plants, Starr's basic glyphs are bubble, lightning, and crystal!
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clownpepperoni · 1 year
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I've had all these sitting in one sai canvas for a week or two and i dont feel like im gonna finish any of these/ I used them to get a feel for a design and it feels like a sin t trash them bc i love the poses and faces of a lot of these so pls ignore
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feeferden · 4 months
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sometimes i realize that its not fair of me to hate myself so much that i just automatically assume that i deserve nothing good but then thats immediately ignored because ive just convinced myself that thats 100% true and then i realize i shouldnt be doing that and should stop but then i further convince myself of how worthless i am so then its a messed up cycle
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alexisquackitys · 1 year
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rekindle - a web weave for @jayschlatts
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rekindle - google definition; arms unfolding - dodie; emily brontë; love, me normally - will wood; porcelain duck and sheep; im in love with u, sorry - j'san; art; arms unfolding - dodie
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People call communists like nihilists and hopeless and shit and then get all "well the democrats are helping commit genocide but what other choice do we have but to vote for them : / revolution will never happen : /" like god fuck you guys. Capitalism is not immortal the US will not last forever Palestine will be free. Your hopelessness isn't rational or helpful. "Things can't change!" Isnt smart tactical politics it is giving up
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ive made this kind of post before and by god ill make it again because you sick and utterly deranged fucks dont seem to get how harmful / inconsiderate you're being
people on this webbed site: oohhh but your schizophrenia makes you So Special! you should be proud of it ❤️❤️❤️❤️ don't you wish you could Choose to be schizophrenic over and over again, in every life you live?
me: sure. it makes me special in the sense that it's almost completely debilitating, mentally as well as physically, and that people think I'm a fucking freak (which I am). it makes me special in the way that my thoughts are disordered, that my speech pattern is disordered, I dont often make a lot of sense, and when I DO make sense, its because ive spent HOURS REHEARSING. throw me into a new and spontaneous situation, and I won't make a lick of sense. it makes me special in the way that ive spent my entire childhood and teenage years thinking that seeing monsters and hearing said monsters talk about kidnapping and killing me was normal. it makes me special in the way that everybody will be like "oohhh 😬" when they hear I have schizophrenia - as if everything suddenly makes sense.
should I really be proud of a disorder that makes (roughly) 80% of the population think im a violent, sadistic murderer? a disorder that actually makes me want to eat people and become the very monster everybody fears that everybody with schizophrenia is? a disorder that got me laughed at in school? a disorder that makes me believe my soul originated from deep fucking space? a disorder that makes me want to push away my friends because I dont think I deserve them? a disorder that makes me believe I deserve to live by myself - alone and miserable and a constant danger to myself and society?
if Science actually figures out a way to shut down schizophrenia, I'll be first in line, thank you very much. ill embrace DNA meddling and fiddling so hard
if you think its somehow wrong to Not Want to be mentally ill, please have a very merry kill yourself ❤️
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seriaph · 1 year
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I've been hyperfocusing on listening to Malevolent these past couple days, it's so good???? I never would have guessed it's entirely made by one person, it's incredibly captivating. It's already scared the shit out of me multiple times, imagine getting jumpscared by a podcast ;w; I'm super interested in the themes I've been seeing, and the mystery as well. I've got a whole lot of theories about what's going on and even more questions that I want answers to LOL
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evilwriter37 · 2 years
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As I've said before: "Party's always rockin' and party's in the ER."
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Scanners is a queer, traumatised, neurodivergent and mentally ill Mood(tm) for sure
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deneveve-is-lost · 2 years
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I feel like I wanna say one thing about childhood trauma as a concept and that's that it doesn't have to come from your parents or even other adults to count. The absolute worst of my trauma comes from bullying, my parents weren't great, but they weren't terrible either, and they got worse in response to my mental illness symptoms getting worse which happened because I was being bullied. I probably am so disordered about my trauma because of the combination of bullying and parents who were unprepared to parent two quite mentally ill children and had to poorly improvise as best they could, but the bullying and isolation I experienced at school was absolutely the biggest factor. I didn't even realise I was allowed to call my experiences with bullying trauma until my first therapist asked me if I'd been through anything traumatic in childhood and my mum mentioned that I'd been severely bullied when I was 8 (I was seeing her about ASD diagnosis not trauma hence why my mum was present). So basically I guess if you're of the belief that you can't have trauma because you weren't abused by your parents, maybe reconsider how you define trauma, let your brain be affected by things even if they aren't what is stereotypically associated with trauma.
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jolynesapphic · 1 year
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the way that social media and modern times have completely changed the way ppl pursue others romantically baffles me sometimes,, like, if i were to tell someone from the 1920s “omg he viewed my tiktok profile 5 times and he liked a video from 2020; should i text him?” i don’t doubt that they would say “wow you should go get a lobotomy”
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literally what is the point of life if i cannot make things
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