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wondereads · 9 months
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This is about the Bazhir, Daine and Numair, and the entirety of the Trickster’s Duology
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morphmaker · 6 months
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The Immortals No. 10: The Battle of Port Legann
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motherofmabari · 11 months
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chimaerakitten · 9 months
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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Tortall - Tamora Pierce Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Additional Tags: Meta, Art, Fanart, Heraldry, reconstructing heraldry, Art History, Medieval History, Embedded Images Summary:
A meta dive into the heraldry of Tortall, including drawings from the given descriptions and an attempt to blazon any coat of arms that was described enough.
Includes an instruction to basic heraldry concepts and conclusions about Tortallan heraldic traditions as distinct from real-world ones.
As a sort of spiritual successor to my Castlevania heraldry meta, have a meta on Tortall’s heraldic tradition and the arms of various characters.
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princesssarisa · 5 months
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Tamora Pierce has been open about the celebrity facecasting she used for the main characters of The Immortals.
This is what Daine looks like (Trini Alvarado, as she appeared in the early '90s, most notably as Meg in the 1994 Little Women):
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This is what Numair looks like (Jeff Goldblum in his late 20s/early 30s):
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And this is Emperor Ozorne around the time of Emperor Mage (Ozzy Osbourne, circa 1980):
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checkoutmybookshelf · 10 months
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The Immortals Quartet
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Time to chat about another of Tamora Pierce's beloved heroines and one of her early quartets. This is also the quartet that--in my entirely subjective experience--catches a lot of guff for its romance subplot. But we'll get to that. These are some of my favorite books of Pierce's, and I'm pretty sure that I read these after the Alanna and Kel books, although they were her second published quartet, coming before Kel. Let's talk The Immortals Quartet.
Veralidaine Sarrasri, unlike Alanna and Kel, is not originally Tortallen. Our girl is Gallan, and when we first meet her in Wild Magic, she is recovering from bandits sacking her village, burning down her house, and killing her family and all their animals. She's also desperate to hide what she thinks is a form of madness from every human she runs across, which gets really complicated when Numair starts teaching her how to harness her wild magic. And for just a hot second, can I say how much I love Numair in this series? He has just as much character as Daine and I am never NOT here for phenonemally powerful mages who are also basically oversized puppies.
Getting to watch Daine develop relationships with Numair, Onua, Alanna and George, the royal family, and the Queen's Riders is such fun, and so well done that when Daine finally feels safe enough to explain why she sometimes seems recalcitrant about her magic lessons it feels immensely earned. These relationships also become immensely foundational to the rest of the series, as does Daine's b-plot but still really compelling arc about hating Stormwings.
The Stormwing arc really finds traction in Wolf Speaker. In my experience, most people say that In the Realms of the Gods is their least favorite Immortals book, but for me, Wolf Speaker takes that prize. Not at all because it's a bad book, but for me it's the most forgettable of the four. Daine and Numair are investigating sus nonsense in Fief Dunlath, and there are blood rain and shape shifting/mind riding shenanagins and Daine begins to have holes poked in her Stormwing prejudice courtesy of Rikash Moonsword. It's a fine book, and the subplots with the wolves and ogres are compelling, but for whatever reason this book does not stick in my head.
The book that does stick in my head and is unequivocally my favorite of this quartet is Emperor Mage. This book follows the Tortallen peace delegation to Carthak, and geopolitical and divine shenanagins ensue. Dain's relationships with Kaddar and Ozorne--and particularly how Numair and Ozorne's history colors both those relationships--are again central to the plot. The Graveyard Hag is also actively throwing broom handles between the spokes of Daine's wheels by giving Daine the power to bring skeletons to a seeming of life.
That gets absolutely amazing because the Graveyard Hag wants Daine to reanimate human skeletons, but Daine makes the PHENOMENAL point that humans forget literal walking nightmares really fast. What humans don't recover fast from is when you literally raze their centers of government to the ground, including food stores, records of all kinds, and the freaking treasury. So instead of making human skeletons dance through the streets, Daine reanimates DINOSAUR SKELETONS and wrecks absolute shop. It's amazing, I wouldn't change a thing.
The other thing I love about this book is Numair yo-yoing between being an experienced intelligence operative and black robe mage and a complete idiot. He is tangled up in plans to free slaves and overthrow Ozorne and yet he still somehow manages to forget all of that and swing at Ozorne when he suggests that Numair is banging Daine. Numair. Honey, sweetie, friend, you cannot be THAT much of an idiot. And the best part is, at least three other characters call him on that idiocy. This book is fantastic.
In the Realms of the Gods is the book that, in my experience, gets the most flak from fans. My experience has been that people object to the student/teacher dynamic between Daine and Numair deveoping into a romance and the significant age gap between the two characters as the romance develops. People also seem to feel that this book is too long and drags in places. I don't tend to find that the book is draggy and long, but that tends to be a very "your mileage may vary" thing for readers.
In terms of the age gap and student teacher dynamics, I want to start off very clear: In real life, student-teacher relationships are never ok, are always predatory, and I do not support. However, to paraphrase Red from OSP, not every book that shows things that aren't unequivocally morally good do not need a "Do Not Try This At Home" sticker on the cover. Books don't have to be morally instructive, they don't have to show the best possible healthy relationships, they just have to be interesting. And honestly? I find Daine and Numair interesting. On top of that, Tamora Pierce is aware enough as an author that Daine and Numair actually do (however briefly) discuss the potential pitfalls of the age gap between them. They don't address the student/teacher thing, but then I wouldn't expect them to because that's not the relationship they have in this book. They are more partners than student/teacher. All this to say, I can understand why people dislike this romance, but I'm not here to throw shade, because honestly I enjoyed it.
I also enjoyed meeting and learning about Daine's parents, exploring the literal Realm of the Gods and all the wibbly wobbly timey wimey chaos shenanagins, and the conclusion of Daine's Stormwing arc. (And how dare Pierce make me cry that hard over Rikash. That was uncalled for.)
Overall, I deeply loved this quartet, and Daine is a welcome change from the very martial Alanna and Kel. She also represents an evolution of the magic systems in Tortall, which was really compelling and refreshing.
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goodgrammaritan · 11 months
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Best Tamora Pierce villain (Tortall):
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anxiouslytrekking · 11 months
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tamora pierce the queen
i’m doing a tamora pierce re-read and it’s been giving me life. the books are so good, so well-written, and tbh i can feel my childhood coming back to me.
if you have thoughts on the daine/numair situation pls share them in comments.
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axolotlcipher · 1 year
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See the joke is that I love Tammy, but GURL these romances. All lighthearted fun from ur local lesbian.
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Canonicals Tournament Round 1, Match 5
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Match 5 is between Yue Wuhuan from Mistakenly Saving the Villain (shifu: Song Qingshi) and Daine Sarrasri from Tortall (shizun/mentor: Numair Salmalin)
Propaganda under the cut! (Warning: Propaganda may include spoilers about the characters and their media)
Yue Wuhuan:
Wuhuan has wanted Qingshi for countless years and thousands of reincarnations. In their last one, where he's Qingshi's disciple, he wants him so much that he literally has to use MULTIPLE ways to suppress it to controllable levels until they get together. He would rip apart the world - or save it - for Qingshi. He waits 3000 years for him.
Daine Sarrasri:
they started catching feelings for each other while numair was daine's teacher but kept it strictly platonic until the teacher-student relationship ended and they started working together as colleagues. daine finally got him into a relationship and they are literally married with kids by the end.
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faerieriddle · 1 year
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12 year old me vibing to Numair and Diane:
20 year old me:
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morphmaker · 11 months
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The Immortals No. 1: You've got something alright
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offtorivendell · 3 months
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Nesta Archeron 🤝 Daine Sarrasri
I won't elaborate, because HOFAS spoilers, but iykyk.
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firesidefandoms · 2 years
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My top fandoms: (Not exactly in order of favorites...they switch around too much to keep track
The Immortals Quartet (Tamora Pierce)
Miraculous Ladybug and Chat Noir
Inuyasha
Avatar (James Cameron)
The Amazing Spiderman
Stargate
Doctor Who
Demon Slayer
Venom
Good Omens
Moon Knight
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
Percy Jackson
Warrior Cats
How to Train Your Dragon
Tales of Arcadia
Narnia
Harry Potter
Dune
Sherlock
Ever After
Marvel X-Men (Specifically Quicksilver)
The good place
Marvel
Inkheart
Hunger Games
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addressedtothefire · 2 years
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The best part of the Tortall universe is the way each protagonist politely cedes the mantle of main character energy to a new girl every four years.
Like whenever a new kid comes to town Alanna’s just like “ah, guess it’s time for their books now”  **moves into background, takes up sidekick pose**
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