#I love me a problematic ship

[ineed-to-sleep]

Well you see they're just very good friends

#vtm #vtmb #vampire the masquerade #oc.pepper #oc.vince #technically not their first kiss but kind of their first kiss #first fr fr kiss #their actual first kiss is during italian dinner to keep up appearences bc they're posing as a couple #but their first like 'I am kissing you bc I want to and btw I'm in love w you' kiss is in the luckee star #after pepper talks to nines #it's funny to me bc they weren't in the best of terms before this #vince was kinda mad at pepper bc she almost bloodbound him while frenzied and she'd been frenzying on purpose and just generally #being rlly irresponsible #she's sorry tho. she's very very sorry and trying to do better #but like he just puts that aside bc of the bloodhunt and how worried he is abt her #and he shows up and they have a good talk and the feelings come out and etc etc and then kiss #kiss kiss smooch smooch. they love each other v much #vincent is still worried abt pepper's behavior but what can he do. she's his problematic fave 🤷🏻‍♀️ #ship: viper #sleepyscribble

[hjbender]

me, about to get into another ship with a bigger, even more problematic age gap than the one i'm currently in:

#hjbendergifs #shipping #fandom #pompous pep #kanezra #i love my problematic ships #*putting on my armor as i prepare to enter the battlefield* #sign me up for the next war #mulan (1998)

[hitachiincest]

theres drama rn on twitter w a yuri fan/yuri fans getting angry at yaoi writers bc 'there should b more [for the] yuri instead' & acting up & insinuating misogyny, etc etc & u kno what? if yuri fans want ppl to write more f/f fics, alright then, so be it! they didnt specify what kind tho... ^_^ *finger of the monkey's paw curls in as the dove begins to die*

#idk how to tag this... uh. #dead dove do not eat #proship #crosspost from my twitter [except now w added context for ppl who arent privy to the happenings of the birdsite] #unfortunately this is just me making a Joke 😔 most of what i watch is 99% male cast so i have very few problematic f/f ships whompwhomp #i LOVE genderswaps but id rather just write the original in most cases. HOWEVER ! i think those ppl w toxic yuri ships should pull a Funny #& write more then have ppl be like 'NO WAIT! NOT THAT GROSS TYPE OF YURI!!!' lol #overgrowth.text

[eeveekitti]

i'm a little kid, and so are you don't you go and grow up before i do

#rain world #rw hunter #hunter rw #rw survivor #survivor rw #rw monk #monk rw #rw honeystickfam #lyrics from turning out by ajr #telling myself im allowed to like this family #telling myself that im allowed to find comfort in them #telling myself that im allowed to give them a name to refer to them by #and that its not problematic to give them a name even though names are usually reserved for ships #i had a MASSIVE anxiety spike regarding just wanting to call them as a family honeystick #since it got mistaken for a ship #theyre the honeystick family and i love them and i hope people are okay with them having a name #think of it like a last name #hunter honeystick survivor honeystick monk honeystick #the name is honestly more for me and my interpretation of them but honestly itd make me feel so much better seeing other people use it too #anyway tag ramble over

[sunsetzer]

On one hand, I want a final fantasy 6 remake, because the game is criminally underrated and the amount of fan content (which is all absolutely fantastic btw) is Not Enough for my neurodivergent, hyperfixating brain.

On the other hand, that would inevitably encourage more people to join the fandom, which would be great, except it seems these days the bigger a fandom gets the more toxic it becomes, and I really like what we have going on over here in our little corner. We all just love the game and its characters and nobody fights about who should and shouldn't date who or who you shouldn't like because they're ~problematique~. Nobody's trying to make one ship morally better than another, nobody's calling anyone names or threatening to doxx people who don't agree with their opinions. It's so peaceful and I love that for us. We're just vibing. Moisturized. Unbothered. In our lane. Flourishing.

#as someone who was in an extremely toxic and chaotic fandom and lowkey still traumatized #to the point where I'm afraid to mention which fandom it was/what my ship was #i have to say #i genuinely love it here #i was nervous at first sharing my ships and headcanons but everyone is so chill i was worried for nothing #thank you to everyone I've interacted with who has made this fandom a healing experience for me #i shudder to think about what some of the people i interacted with in a previous fandom would do with ff6 #probably would take edgar's flirting at face value and call him problematic for objectifying women #instead of considering the narrative and what we know about him and the way he actually treats women #my man drinks loving and respecting women juice he's not a creep #or that weird moment with relm that admittedly made me double take before i realized what he meant #theyd have a whole campaign against him lmfao #bc those people boil characters alive until they're just a formless pile of tropes and stereotypes #and seem to disregard all positive aspects of a character they don't like which is fine #but then they go and try to force other people to think like they do and ugh #theres a lot of silly moments in the game and aspects of these characters that make them well rounded and realistically flawed at times #and i fear that would get lost in the chaos if the floodgates opened after a remake #maybe im just jaded lmao #im jaded and i have anxiety so im always thinking about The Worst Case Scenario #the collective positive spirit of the dwellers in this fandom might actually foster a positive space if more people were to come in #ff6 #my post #i was gonna say maybe this is bc we're mostly adults #but that falls flat when i remember how some of the most toxic and immature people in some fandoms are grown ass adults #who bully each other and younger fans #and some of the most mature and cool people were actually younger #maybe ff6 fans are just built different lmao #also idk how old anyone else actually is there might be teenagers here i just don't think about it a lot

[castielinpastel]

seriously, why do people get so pressed when someone likes a queer ship or headcanons someone as queer? I genuinely don’t understand.

#unless the ship is extremely problematic or it’s illegal obviously #stranger things #stranger things 4 #I saw an elmax edit earlier and the people in the comments were so pressed #and I genuinely want to know why it’s okay to bash gay ships that aren’t canon but live laugh love straight ones??? #like please just let me ship things in peace #steddie #ronance #byler #elmax #henclair #destiel #blackhill #carolmaria #valcarol #thorbruce #lokius #there are many more. #I’m in a lot of fucking fandoms but these were the first ones I thought of

[usernose]

Don't you ever have the motivation to do something just to piss off some people.

#cause I'm feeling to make more Cedbake posts just to combat with the problematic popular ship in the Sofia the First fandom #not to any other ship they're fine #just that vile popular ship #Cedric x any adult from any show/movie would be a better ship than that trash #it's just that Obake seems to be my target to paired up with Cedric #the thought of Obake opening up to Cedric makes me happy and cozy #and despite Obake's lore i think Cedric would try to comfort this broken man #Obake blushes after every kiss Cedric gives him because it's the first time anybody gave him some physical affection #and that Cedric would always tell Obake to never give up after he made a mistake #anyway sorry for rambling about my otp in the tags i love them very much #cedbake #cedric the sorcerer #sofia the first #bh6 obake #obake #bob aken #big hero 6 the series #big hero 6 #user talks

[lasymit]

Well... I saw this:

So...

Any ships with Philip is always problematic because actually deep down he is a child and a deer

#/j obviously #but actually what the hell #since when it's problematic to ships youself wjth fictional character #maybe it's because his aroace though (/j again) #let people enjoy their genocidal fictional blorbo pls it's not so hard #emperor belos #philip wittebane #I don't want to start discussion btw please don't tell me how I wrong #and I don't think he is a good person #he is awfull #thats Why I love him #my textposts

[spinnydraws]

I absolutely hateee it when people gate keep(?) a character into one ship,,, like… let them be free…

#idk #I’m a multi shipper #it’s fun to ship #as long as it’s not problematic and stuff #kenziebabbles #shut it Kenzie #I’m looking at you. Nuzi shippers. #don’t get me wrong I LOVE Nuzi but……………… #I see a lot of people trashing on any ship that isn’t that one #vent?? i guess #(( vent

[seiya-starsniper]

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#if I've made anyone uncomfortable with the things I've been posting the last few days that was in fact the point and fully intended #and I don't say that to be cruel but simply to drive home the point that fandom spaces can be both safe and hostile at the same time #it is a deeply uncomfortable thing to acknowledge and I know most people do no want to deal with that and I understand that truly #but it was important to me to acknowledge and to give my opinion so that's what I did #At the same time none of this changes my opinion on my ship or the fact that I love a certain character other people find problematic #and I am fine with people finding that problematic because I am human being I am problematic by default #and I am confident enough in myself as a person to know when to acknowledge when I've contributed to problematic behavior #and realize the world doesn't end when this happens #my opinion of the fandom I've made my home in hasn't changed either #I had these views before and now they're out there in the open messy wording and all #and if you've decided that changes your opinion of me for the worse that's fine you can unfollow block etc #I understand that even in my attempt to acknowledge hurt within my fandom I've probably hurt other people and I have made my peace with it #but for everyone else that's shown me support both on tumblr and in private #for everyone that's listened to me vent about this subject over DMs and validated my hurt feelings #instead of trying to press your own discomforts onto me to carry in addition to my own #thank you #I've carved a permanent space in my heart for you and I truly mean that #I waded into this mess fully expecting to be ignored at best and to lose connections at worst and I was fully okay with it #but the love I've gotten and the deep honest and vulnerable conversations I've had over the last few days has truly been astounding to me #this last part is taking me AGES to write #because I'm actually crying thinking about all the good that's come out of this #and I acknowledge that's not a universal opinion and that's fine I'm really only speaking to my personal experience with what's happened #which despite outward appearances has been incredibly cathartic and uplifting for me #and I don't need everyone in the fandom to share my views or validate me or tell me I'm right people are allowed to disagree #I also don't need to have a deep personal and honest connection with everyone in the fandom where I can share my deepest vulnerabilities #but the fact that I could have that connection with some of you? that's enough for me. it's everything to me.

[lildoodlenoodle]

Not the spiderverse art book restarting the dying down Hobie age discourse. With the Japanese version implying he’s a ‘young boy’(I think that’s what it was either way either way) and the book saying ‘he’s much older than miles..’(smth like that either way either way) and it’s like seriously? Again? AGAIN?

The directors said it’s up to interpretation. And the only reason(w/ the exclusion of the people thinking he’s like 30 cause that’s weird and gross, re-examine some racial biases)that people are so adamant he is or isn’t a minor is because of shipping! Whether it’s with one of the spider teens or with OCs or justifying self shipping it’s weird! It’s weird that that’s the reason people are going nuts over this shit and dying on their respective hills. And let people have their HCs holyshit.

And to reiterate: it’s not proshipping/pedoshit if someone HCs Hobie as a teen and ships them with one of the spider teens. It’s not necessarily fetishization and is not pedoshit if people HC him as a young adult and do self ships or whatever else goes on there.

It’s fandom let people fuck around. Something doesn’t have to be justified as morally wrong for you not to like it. Stop trying to force your own Head Canons, key word HEAD as in the canon in your head, onto other people.

Sorry for the rant I just cannot believe it’s still going.

#I’ll say it again #head canons #as in the canon IN YOUR HEAD #ik part of the problem is people are new to fandom spaces/culture and don’t entirely understand HCs #sorry I’m getting so heated but this is like the stupidest shit to see people get stuck on as someone who has been here for awhile #like actually dealing with ACTUALLY problematic ships and this is what y’all think is problematic now??? ITS IN YOUR HEAD BESTIE #like the ghostpunk. punkflower. and chaipunk ships aren’t for me but I do love and appreciate the art! #never rlly been into self inserts either. idk just not my thing tbh #didn’t even rlly know what proshipping was till the Hobie brown stuff #y’all are KILLING ME #it’s funny but it’s also annoying to see it all over my feed #so now we all have to suffer #there isn’t even really a tag for me to filter it out #I’m gonna put some triggers just cause I was less eloquent than I could’ve been lol #tw pedophila mention #age discourse ig

[petiolata]

Decided I'll just block people I see tag their art with "not ship art" "don't tag as ship" and the like.

It's not that I care whether it's ship art, or whether the artist intends it platonically or romantically.

It's that it shows a deep, fundamental misunderstanding of how art works. Art is not meant to be interpreted to the exact dictation of the artist. Art is meant to evoke thoughts and feelings *beyond* what the artist intends.

The audience, viewing, completes the experience by supplying interpretations based on their own unique experiences.

If someone doesn't get that, then they're too mentally shallow for me to waste time on their art. Why would I? There's nothing for me in it--I'm not permitted to have my own thoughts or feelings about the art after all.

Viewing art as complete, immutable product that the audience exists only to "consume" without thinking is the mentality that enables the hideous conversion of "artist" to "content creator".

Besides, the artist has admitted they can't clearly communicate ideas or scenes, since they feel the need to clarify something that should be obvious 99.9% of the time.

#fandom #artist problems #fandom discourse #discourse #death of the author #reader-response theory #op #personal #it always surprises me how ignorant many creatives are about their own supposedly beloved method of creation #“I love to make art! now I'm going to learn absolutely nothing about it 😃” #“I'm never going to bother thinking about the audience's role or art's purpose and what it gives humanity! 😃” #it's just a very complacent and shallow attitude #altho tbh it's a common failing generally. so many ppl never bother to think critically or analytically or have any curiosity about anythin #i know i probably shouldn't bother voicing these opinions but pseudo-intellectual rants are just part of my content-creator “brand” baby #along with my struggles with various household objects #if you can't be a little insane and pretentious on your own tumblog then where can you? #btw the art that prompted this wasn't even about a “problematic” ship which is what made seeing it so bizarre and jarring? like it wasn't #even an attempt at advertising the artists' values #just “You [the audience] are clearly all idiots so let me clarify this scene for you and spell everything out” #but even aside from that particular piece I've seen plenty of posts with similar tags. stop treating your audience like they're dipshits #also trying to forcibly control how your audience interprets your work is control freak BS

[where-is-my-beheading-ceremony]

Looking through the Pruliet tag and realizing there are different flavors of Pruliet shippers

#I love almost all flavors #Except for the far too problematic and making me scared of the admin flavors #Which is thankfully rare- #As rare AS THE GODDAMN SHIP #I NEED MORE CONTENT #Idk which flavor I am #But definitely the poetic #They both make each other question everything #And they both wish things weren't so gd complicated in the world flavor #Everytime I write about Pruliet or just Lithuania #I write as if they were either a phylosophy book where they try to find different ways to understand the world and bring themselves closure #Or a 19th century Lithuanian novel #Anyways #Pruliet ❤️

[thecatspasta]

You ever just realize multishipping exists and feel all your powers are unlocked

#multishipping #garlic breath #used to exclusively ship jmart #then got tired of that #unlocked jongerry and jontim #got autistic #couldnt properly go back to jmart #now i just fuck around and find out #at this point i will ship anything as long as its not obviously problematic #current fav is jongerry and thats really it #i like jmart fine but its boring to me also the fandom completely destroyed martin for me #jongeorgie i love. georgie is the best. i am a georgie apologist honestly

[fortunatelyenchantingtaco]

It is so ridiculous how hot and cool and interesting I find satosugu but dont want to write it Purely because Tsumiki exists and unless its one big AU where we pretend nothing bad ever happened, i refuse to let her close to potentially a dude who at least hates her, but would probably kill her

Like idk this shit breaks my heart so badly

This man may be hot but i will fight for the kids

#satoru coded #sorry i feel emotins #SATOSUGU IS SO HOT I LOVE THEM #BUT BOY DO I NOT LIKE WHEN THE PRICE OF THEM BEING TOGETHER IS TSUMIKI #FIGHT ME #jjk is ruining my life actually #i hate how i cant just like stuff cause it hot #like most of the time im fine with problematic stuff cause usuallt people just at least #know they did something wrong but still do it #it is So different with sukuna and suguru #sugurus story is very much tear inducing and as a fellow depression non enjoyer i get it #but god i draw a line with genocide alright #like its the funny thing #ok you killed people who were abusing girls i can be fine with it in theory i have loose morals #but genocide is different okay #literally tsumiki as the reason i ship tojigo #hot and problematic and toji is a bad dad but At Least He Wouldnt Kill Her #the bar is so low #like out of every ship with gojo the most normal one is with nanami which is great #i just kinda like tojigo more purely cause of the cursed dynamic of gojo being high after their battle #like they would so fuck if given the chance #is toji horrible and kickstarted everything bad? #yeah #would it have probably happened anyway? #also yeah #i believe in gojos inherent will to protect kids and fuck strong people #also its real sexy to write gojo being heartbroken cause of suguru but being with toji and the kids and slowly getting better so yeah

[crystal-the-axolotl]

dumping one last something before calling it a night

this was actually the very first tokrev fanart and panel redraw i made and also the last thing i ever posted on my insta

#i cannot for the love of me see them as platonic friends and i'm not sorry for that #me being problematic in the tokrev fandom is having this ship as my favorite #doramai #drakey #draken x mikey #idk is there more tags for them? #ryuguji ken #draken #majiro sano #tokyo revengers #tokrev #fanart #my art #digital art #this is so fucking old it was time i got rid of it on the internet #and finally #have a nice day/night/evening #for real this time