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daniel-nerd · 20 days
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Do you believe the current genocide is comparable to the shoah? why or why not
it is not comparable in scale to the shoah(the holocaust), but it is still an attempt of genocide, and it comes from the same ideologies and hatred that flues nazis and fascists.
recently I started comparing it more to the nakba, and called it "an ongoing nakba". I believe this comparison is more accurate, but I also believe using the holocaust, which is probably the most famous examples of a genocide, and people have a lot of very strong emotions tied to it, is very useful in conveying our point.
eventually, whenever I compare the israeli government and zionists to nazis, or the war on gaza to the holocaust, it comes from a place of a warning, showing people what their path is leading to.
comparing any 2 events is very nuanced, and gets harder and more dangerous the bigger one of the events is. understanding this lead me to shy from calling it "the palestinian holocaust", and I try to only compare events to the holocaust whenever a comparison is actually justified.
for example comparing the sde teiman detention camp(which no israeli media outlet covered yet) to a concentration camp is justified, because, well, its basically a concentration camp, where soldiers put palestinians, that a lot of them later get released because they never committed any crime(some ever were believed to be dead by family members, because they just disappeared one day), and torture them, and use their bodies to train medics without even giving them anaesthesia.
hopefully this clears my thought on comparing the war to the holocaust!
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mmi-mii · 22 days
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Sde Teiman camps
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Tamara Qiblawi at CNN:
At a military base that now doubles as a detention center in Israel’s Negev desert, an Israeli working at the facility snapped two photographs of a scene that he says continues to haunt him. Rows of men in gray tracksuits are seen sitting on paper-thin mattresses, ringfenced by barbed wire. All appear blindfolded, their heads hanging heavy under the glare of floodlights. A putrid stench filled the air and the room hummed with the men’s murmurs, the Israeli who was at the facility told CNN. Forbidden from speaking to each other, the detainees mumbled to themselves. “We were told they were not allowed to move. They should sit upright. They’re not allowed to talk. Not allowed to peek under their blindfold.” Guards were instructed “to scream uskot” – shut up in Arabic – and told to “pick people out that were problematic and punish them,” the source added.
CNN spoke to three Israeli whistleblowers who worked at the Sde Teiman desert camp, which holds Palestinians detained during Israel’s invasion of Gaza. All spoke out at risk of legal repercussions and reprisals from groups supportive of Israel’s hardline policies in Gaza. They paint a picture of a facility where doctors sometimes amputated prisoners’ limbs due to injuries sustained from constant handcuffing; of medical procedures sometimes performed by underqualified medics earning it a reputation for being “a paradise for interns”; and where the air is filled with the smell of neglected wounds left to rot.
According to the accounts, the facility some 18 miles from the Gaza frontier is split into two parts: enclosures where around 70 Palestinian detainees from Gaza are placed under extreme physical restraint, and a field hospital where wounded detainees are strapped to their beds, wearing diapers and fed through straws. “They stripped them down of anything that resembles human beings,” said one whistleblower, who worked as a medic at the facility’s field hospital. “(The beatings) were not done to gather intelligence. They were done out of revenge,” said another whistleblower. “It was punishment for what they (the Palestinians) did on October 7 and punishment for behavior in the camp.”
Responding to CNN’s request for comment on all the allegations made in this report, the Israeli military, known as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), said in a statement: “The IDF ensures proper conduct towards the detainees in custody. Any allegation of misconduct by IDF soldiers is examined and dealt with accordingly. In appropriate cases, MPCID (Military Police Criminal Investigation’s Division) investigations are opened when there is suspicion of misconduct justifying such action.”
“Detainees are handcuffed based on their risk level and health status. Incidents of unlawful handcuffing are not known to the authorities.” The IDF did not directly deny accounts of people being stripped of their clothing or held in diapers. Instead, the Israeli military said that the detainees are given back their clothing once the IDF has determined that they pose no security risk. Reports of abuse at Sde Teiman have already surfaced in Israeli and Arab media after an outcry from Israeli and Palestinian rights groups over conditions there. But this rare testimony from Israelis working at the facility sheds further light on Israel’s conduct as it wages war in Gaza, with fresh allegations of mistreatment. It also casts more doubt on the Israeli government’s repeated assertions that it acts in accordance with accepted international practices and law.
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Detained in the desert
The Israeli military has acknowledged partially converting three different military facilities into detention camps for Palestinian detainees from Gaza since the Hamas-led October 7 attack on Israel, in which Israeli authorities say about 1,200 were killed and over 250 were abducted, and the subsequent Israeli offensive in Gaza, killing nearly 35,000 people according to the strip’s health ministry. These facilities are Sde Teiman in the Negev desert, as well as Anatot and Ofer military bases in the occupied West Bank. The camps are part of the infrastructure of Israel’s Unlawful Combatants Law, an amended legislation passed by the Knesset last December that expanded the military’s authority to detain suspected militants.
The law permits the military to detain people for 45 days without an arrest warrant, after which they must be transferred to Israel’s formal prison system (IPS), where over 9,000 Palestinians are being held in conditions that rights groups say have drastically deteriorated since October 7. Two Palestinian prisoners associations said last week that 18 Palestinians – including leading Gaza surgeon Dr. Adnan al-Bursh – had died in Israeli custody over the course of the war. The military detention camps – where the number of inmates is unknown – serve as a filtration point during the arrest period mandated by the Unlawful Combatants Law. After their detention in the camps, those with suspected Hamas links are transferred to the IPS, while those whose militant ties have been ruled out are released back to Gaza.
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Al-Ran’s account of the forms of punishment he saw were corroborated by the whistleblowers who spoke with CNN. A prisoner who committed an offense such as speaking to another would be ordered to raise his arms above his head for up to an hour. The prisoner’s hands would sometimes be zip-tied to a fence to ensure that he did not come out of the stress position.
For those who repeatedly breached the prohibition on speaking and moving, the punishment became more severe. Israeli guards would sometimes take a prisoner to an area outside the enclosure and beat him aggressively, according to two whistleblowers and al-Ran. A whistleblower who worked as a guard said he saw a man emerge from a beating with his teeth, and some bones, apparently broken. That whistleblower and al-Ran also described a routine search when the guards would unleash large dogs on sleeping detainees, lobbing a sound grenade at the enclosure as troops barged in. Al-Ran called this “the nightly torture.” “While we were cabled, they unleashed the dogs that would move between us, and trample over us,” said al-Ran. “You’d be lying on your belly, your face pressed against the ground. You can’t move, and they’re moving above you.” [...]
Strapped to beds in a field hospital
Whistleblower accounts portrayed a different kind of horror at the Sde Teiman field hospital. “What I felt when I was dealing with those patients is an idea of total vulnerability,” said one medic who worked at Sde Teiman. “If you imagine yourself being unable to move, being unable to see what’s going on, and being completely naked, that leaves you completely exposed,” the source said.  “I think that’s something that borders on, if not crosses to, psychological torture.” Another whistleblower said he was ordered to perform medical procedures on the Palestinian detainees for which he was not qualified. “I was asked to learn how to do things on the patients, performing minor medical procedures that are totally outside my expertise,” he said, adding that this was frequently done without anesthesia.
“If they complained about pain, they would be given paracetamol,” he said, using another name for acetaminophen. “Just being there felt like being complicit in abuse.” The same whistleblower also said he witnessed an amputation performed on a man who had sustained injuries caused by the constant zip-tying of his wrists. The account tallied with details of a letter authored by a doctor working at Sde Teiman published by Ha’aretz in April. “From the first days of the medical facility’s operation until today, I have faced serious ethical dilemmas,” said the letter addressed to Israel’s attorney general, and its health and defense ministries, according to Ha’aretz. “More than that, I am writing (this letter) to warn you that the facilities’ operations do not comply with a single section among those dealing with health in the Incarceration of Unlawful Combatants Law.” [...]
Concealed from the outside world
Sde Teiman and other military detention camps have been shrouded in secrecy since their inception. Israel has repeatedly refused requests to disclose the number of detainees held at the facilities, or to reveal the whereabouts of Gazan prisoners. Last Wednesday, the Israeli Supreme Court held a hearing in response to a petition brought forward by Israeli rights group, HaMoked, to reveal the location of a Palestinian X-Ray technician detained from Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza in February. It was the first court session of its kind since October 7. Israel’s highest court had previously rejected writs of habeas corpus filed on behalf of dozens of Palestinians from Gaza held in unknown locations.
The Israel Occupation Forces (IOF) run the Sde Teiman concentration camp, and CNN interviewed three whistleblowers in which they described the barbaric and inhumane conditions that detainees are subjected to.
This is further proof that the US should not be sending aid to the Israel Apartheid State and the IOF are a terrorist organization.
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thegayhimbo · 25 days
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tastynem · 24 days
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They have detention camps. Palestinian are being held blindfolded and fordidden to speak to each other in detention camps. There is a """hospital""" in the camp where patients are laid in diappers, blindfolded and handcuffed to the bed. This is absolute madness. This is hell. This is history repeating itself and we're letting it happen.
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indizombie · 5 days
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It was a special unit of the military police that did the so-called search. But really it was an excuse to hit them. It was a terrifying situation. There was a lot of screaming and dogs barking. If you imagine yourself being unable to move, being unable to see what’s going on, and being completely naked, that leaves you completely exposed. I think that’s something that borders on, if not crosses to, psychological torture.
Israeli whistleblower, on conditions at Sde Teiman detention centre
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sobeesknees · 25 days
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What do you call a place where political prisoners or persecuted minorities are detained to be exploited and/or punished
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qupritsuvwix · 24 days
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daisy-mooon · 26 days
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CNN got information on one of Israel's detention centres. I don't know if I can say anything after reading this. Jesus fucking Christ.
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7amaspayrollmanager · 2 months
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From the bottom of my heart I fucking hate the people still making posts about how israeli soldiers are victims too because they're conscripted. This is the FandomTM site so they talk about israeli soldiers like a morally flawed character instead of an active member of a military invading and leveling gaza. This is not the time to talk about iof "victim hood. We're all victims of the system" and attempt to equivocation between what's happening in Gaza and a draft. Gazan men and boys are being taken to prisoner camps and getting amputations from handcuffs being intentionally too tight. No one would believe it if a Palestinian announced it until an israeli doctor confirmed it. An American doctor wrote an article where she witnessed palestinian children from ages 5 to 8 with sniper injuries To The Head. Again palestinians telling the news this with their dead child would not be believed so an American doctor had to confirm it. Israeli soldiers blew up a cemetery a piece of ground that is so significant to a nation's memory and cultural memory. Wiping it off means these people virtually do not exist unless the people who visited the cemetery is alive to remember. This would not be confirmed if CNN literally did not film them doing so.
We are allowed to hate this "army" these butcherers of Gaza. We don't have to sit and ponder which one is "conscious" of their crimes when it materially changes nothing about what they're doing. I thought "following orders" was viewed as a disdained excuse but as always Israeli exceptionalism excuses the IOF
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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-16/rafah-gaza-hospitals-surgery-israel-bombing-ground-offensive-children
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CNN has leaked images from Israeli torture camp, Sde Teiman, in the Negev desert, where whistleblowers have revealed that Palestinians abducted from Gaza are being systematically tortured.
Captives are subject to forced amputations, physical assault, force-feeding, humiliation and harassment, and it is unknown how many Palestinians have already been tortured to death in captivity.
At the same time as this is being exposed, Israeli soldiers are exposing THEMSELVES by circulating images of their war crimes online and gloating about their sick exploits. Three of the attached images come from Israeli soldiers and show Palestinians captured from Khan Younis a few weeks ago. Notice how their hands are zip-tied, just like the hands of the men, women and children - even babies - found in the seven mass graves discovered underneath Gaza's destroyed hospitals.
The systematic torture of Palestinians is nothing new. All we're seeing in Gaza is an acceleration in the types of crimes that Palestinians have already been enduring for decades under occupation. Every global human rights organisation has been reporting this for decades.
Time to see occupation for what it is.
Free Palestine. Source: Sumayah Allie
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sayruq · 8 days
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On a misty November morning 21 years ago, I was desperately trying to remain camouflaged. Concealed in the foliage of an orange grove in Israel’s rural Galilee, I hurriedly took photos of a drab concrete building not marked on any map. Even the original road sign identifying the site as Facility 1391 had been removed after a local Haaretz newspaper investigation revealed it housed a secret prison. I was the first foreign journalist to track down Facility 1391, most of it hidden within a heavily fortified complex built in the 1930s to suppress resistance to British rule in Palestine. For decades, Israel had secretly held mostly Arab foreign nationals captive at the site, unknown to the Israeli courts, the Red Cross and human rights groups. Many were Lebanese citizens kidnapped during Israel’s 18-year occupation of southern Lebanon. But there were also Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians and Iranians. This site would soon be known as a “black site”, a term popularised by Washington's invasion of Iraq that year. Drawing on techniques refined by Israel at Facility 1391, the US would, in the coming months and years, torture Iraqis and others at Abu Ghraib and Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo. No one knew how many captives were held in Israel’s Facility 1391, how long they had been there or if there were more such prisons. However, the first testimonies from inmates revealed horrifying conditions. For most of the time, they were kept in a state of sensory deprivation, made to wear blacked-out goggles, except for when being tortured. In one case that later came to court, a Lebanese captive had been sodomised with a baton by “Major George”, the facility’s torturer-in-chief. Major George would go on to become head of Israeli police relations with the Palestinian population of Jerusalem.
If you're going to do one thing today, read this article. Then read the CNN article on Sde Teiman
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opencommunion · 5 days
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"As a Bosnian journalist who reported on the genocide years ago, testimonies coming from Gaza resemble a lot of those from Bosnia: beatings, torture, humiliation, and pain. But don't just take it from me, take it from someone who lived through both. 
Dr. Mohammed al-Ran, a Palestinian with Bosnian citizenship, is a witness to both genocides. After studying medicine in Yugoslavia, he stayed and lived in Sarajevo, where he survived the siege. After the war, Mohammed returned home to Gaza. 
In October 2023, he was head of the surgical unit at the Indonesian hospital in northern Gaza. In December, Mohammed was taken to the Sde Teiman torture facility where he was kept for 44 days. There, he was stripped, blindfolded, handcuffed, and crowded into the back of a truck with other detainees before being transported to detention. 
'Part of my torture was being able to see how people were being tortured,' Dr. Mohammed al-Ran told CNN. 'Our days were filled with prayer, tears, and supplication. This eased our agony.'
... As we see in Gaza, lessons learnt from Bosnia and Herzegovina have not been enough. 'Never again' has happened again.
Hopefully, the coming generations, including those who lead peace protests around the world, will, or already have, learned the lesson that enough is enough. It's time to start building a world in which concentration camps, war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide are just for the history books. Otherwise, there is no hope."
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liliththemonster · 25 days
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MAY 10TH 2024
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CREDIT TO @ eye.on.palestine ON INSTAGRAM
“CNN has released leaked images of the Israeli torture camp Sde Teiman in the Nagev desert, where Israel perpetrates grave crimes against Palestinian prisoners abducted from Gaza.”
A literal concentration camp.
Free Palestine.
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drsonnet · 26 days
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Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center..Finally, #CNN SPEAKS (May, 2024)
Sde Teiman: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center | CNN
| تحقيق لسي إن إن: - انتهاكات وتعذيب لمعتقلين فلسطينيين على يد جنود إسرائيليين في مركز اعتقال سري بالنقب. - شهادات مخبرين إسرائيليين كشفت أن المعتقلين الفلسطينيين يعيشون ظروفا قاسية للغاية.
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Update from #Khan Yunis (May, 2024) :
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Palestinian citizens, who have been kidnapped by Israel's military from Khan Yunis | (Jan., 2024)
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Palestinian men detained by Israeli forces since the start of the war in Gaza have told Middle East Eye how they were physically tortured with dogs and electricity, subjected to mock executions, and held in humiliating and degrading conditions. (March, 2024)
www.middleeasteye.net
long live the resistance : This is what Farouq looks like after severe... (tumblr.com) Dec, 2023
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politicalblade · 2 months
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To be clear… An Israeli doctor is saying this. An Israeli doctor is admitting that Palestinians are being so horribly mistreated that they are amputating their limbs.
This is the "most moral army" that zionists keep touting. This army that is regularly committing ethics violations.
It won't stop until Israel is stopped.
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