#Vulcan aging

[woman-of-many-fandoms]

Anyone else wonder what it must of been like for spock to look almost twice the age of his Vulcan peers?

#star trek #spock #star trek tos #aos star trek #star trek aos #tos spock #spock aos #Vulcan aging

[disease]

"PROMETHEUS BEING CHAINED BY VULCAN" DIRCK VAN BABUREN // 1623 [oil on canvas | 201 × w 182 cm.]

#dirck van baburen #baroque #caravaggism #mythology #painting #dutch golden age #prometheus #vulcan #17th century #dutch #art #u #PD

[bumblingbabooshka]

In your opinion, do Vulcan children have teddies (stuffed animals)?

YES!!!

Stuffed animals and other security items would be good for Vulcan children...I can imagine many small children needing them when they first learn how to meditate. They can also be used as a sort of 'anchor' so they are able to stay calm in unfamiliar situations. I can also imagine they would be used to express emotions without having to attribute them to themselves Ex: "[Toy] feels sad because you ate the last cookie." and a parent could then help the child through that emotion via them both teaching 'the bear' what to do when 'it' feels sad. This way the child feels like they're also helping rather than feeling like they're being lectured. Toys are, I imagine, one of the first things that we learn to take care of and be kind towards. As a child it's probably one of the few things we feel is under 'our care' or control. I imagine how children treat toys is observed carefully...it can be a good outlet (a child may rant to a toy when they don't like something while remaining composed in the situation itself) but also if a child is consistently violent with toys it may be indicative of an emotional issue. Creativity, imagination, and play are also not things which seem to conflict with Vulcan adherence to logic. Play is very important for children and I imagine it's often used to make sense of the world around them or what they feel (Ex: Playing 'House') I imagine you can often see Vulcan children playing by mimicking violent or emotional behavior and then scolding the toy for being violent...you can't hit! You have to take deep breaths and meditate. Oh no, [toy] is crying! Don't cry, you must calm down! Or they might play by exploring new ideas and desires through the realm of fantasy with a familiar object, the toy. Toys are also useful (I imagine, I'm not a psychologist just reflecting on my own experiences) for building a sense of self in a way...during the course of play you can discover what you like and don't like, what calms you down and what intrigues you. You can also learn how to interact with others through games and play as a child. Lessons like how to share, how to work together, how to include others in your world...very important! So yes, I think that toys and play are important - especially for a species which is inherently very emotional. Vulcan Children probably have much less control than adults do and require more tangible methods of calming down, understanding/confronting their emotions etc. Now I'm imagining a 'growing up' ritual wherein children decide they're too old for their toys and ready to give them up. They then work to emotionally detach themselves from them. At the end of this process the children give the toys to someone else (a sibling, a friend, a neighbor, or just donating them)

#Vulcans #Q&A #Thanks for the ask~!! #bee doodles #it is typically up to each individual child to decide when they want to let their toys go but once they get to a certain age they'll be #prodded a bit to do so (which also happens with Humans) #I imagine only the STAUNCHIEST of Vulcans find these sorts of toys to be 'illogical' (think Sarek) #Though I can also imagine Sarek just deciding Spock is too emotionally invested in a toy and getting rid of it #so pick your poison I suppose hehehe

[theshadowrealmitself]

When someone’s headcanon directly contradicts canon, not in a “canon sucks” way, but in a “they don’t know” way and I’m trying so hard not to be a buzzkill

#someone reblogged one of my posts with tags along the lines of #‘pretty sure pon farr would get easier with age as their libido decreases’ #it does not decrease with age #Vulcans’ libido INcreases with age #gets worse as they get older #sorry #no fandom #as in no fandom was mentioned in the body of the post #I couldn’t find the reaction pic I wanted to use so…here’s this

[evilhorse]

You need help, fella—medical help!

(All-Star Comics #61)

#all-star comics #justice society of america #jsa #green lantern #alan scott #Vulcan son of fire #christopher pike #medical help #friendly advice #earth two #gerry conway #keith giffen #wally wood #dc comics #comics #70s comics #bronze age comics

[poebrey]

I just wonder what type of relationship Amanda and Michael would have if she had stayed because on the surface they have the healthiest mother daughter relationship and then the second Michael admits she did something wrong Amanda’s like “you’re the reason our family is falling apart” like why when Sarek and Spock won’t speak to each other first of all but second like how did she watch Sarek raise their human child that way and go “this is ok”?

#michael burnham #sorry this is incoherent this just bothers me a lot like I wanted to know #but now this will be forever forgetten like when a tng character gets a member of their immediate family introduced for an ep #and like #I know this was a consequence of all the changes between s1 and s2 #but where was mama bear Amanda when Michael got thrown in jail #or more importantly when she was running away from home at the tender age of 10-11 #to be fair Michael has some weird hang ups with her human mom too #(love Sonequa discussing this) #but also that’s kinda on Amanda for deciding the Vulcan way is better #because in what other situation is your human child dismissing you for being a human lol

[mai-komagata]

ok but when you think about it

So obviously in the real world of star trek in its various incarnations we have actual actors and actors age at normal rates (or in the case of SNW, cast at ridiculously old ages, like you want me to believe Paul Wesley is what ridiculous young age? you guys know he isn't literally a vampire?), so like Leonard Nimoy always looks the same age as William Shatner in the movies, but like, that is not how Vulcans work. Spock in The Wrath of Khan is younger than T'Lyn and T'pol in their respective series. He probably looks pretty much the same as he did when Kirk first met him. Kirk obviously will look older, and comments on how he is aging (like needs reading glasses and whatnot). But Spock isn't old at all. So married Spirk is even more hilarious when you realize old man Admiral Kirk has this hot young Vulcan as a husband until he disappears in Generations.

i mean it is possible Spock ages somewhere between a human and a Vulcan, though, so maybe not so ridiculously young looking the whole time. But it is still funny to imagine Admiral Kirk and his trophy husband.

#kirk is very lucky #it all makes sense #he marries his soulmate #and he looks young the whole time he knows him #maybe that is why kirk is always commenting on his age #compared to a vulcan he is gonna feel old #spirk #kock #space husbands #vulcans #star trek meta #star trek tos #k/s

[swimmingwolf59]

∇ for spones

(For reference this is the old age/aging head canon)

I love thinking about old spones lol thank you for the ask! Sorry this got kinda long lol.

Old married spones are frequent guests on the Enterprise-D, as the Enterprise is often tasked with ferrying them to various conferences. Despite it being a different crew, they fit in well here, and the D crew love them. McCoy and Spock join the weekly poker games (McCoy always wins and Spock always loses, which Riker finds incredibly amusing). McCoy was Beverly's mentor back when she first started as a doctor, so they're fast friends and Beverly is always dragging him off to show him her latest research. Spock enjoys discussing philosophy and Shakespeare with Picard, and sometimes allows himself to pretend he is talking to his father. Guinan fixes McCoy his favorite drink--the best mint julep in the galaxy--and they laugh about old times. Data invites both of them over to his quarters often, as McCoy and Spock both have an interest in his art, his conversation, and his cat. Geordi is one of the few people who can make McCoy laugh uproariously, which Spock enjoys watching much more than he would ever admit. Deanna shares her favorite chocolate recipes with Spock, who has never quite been able to suppress his sweet tooth. Worf and Spock share a quiet cup of tea together - or at least it would be quiet if McCoy didnt insist on regaling Worf with stories of his ancestor (McCoy's attorney). Neither of them say anything though because they both find it endearing. Lower deckers line up in the hallways to get a chance to witness the infamous spones banter.

It feels a lot like home.

And the best part - no one realized they were married except for Beverly, who already knew, and Deanna, who could tell right away how they felt about each other and teases them about it often. Deanna happens to mention it during a meeting one time and the entire ship just about loses their minds. Until then, they had thought they were just constantly stuck on missions together and were barely tolerating each other.

Spones are amused when they learn this because at their age, this happens all the time and it never ceases to be fun.

You can find the headcanon meme here

#star trek tos #spones #old married spones #headcanon #i guess this isn't technically centered around their old age but it's a hc i have of when they're old so i guess it works lol #i have so many old spones hcs I didn't know which one to share LOL #if you'd like to see more #please read my fic the importance of keeping your vulcan awake during sehlat hibernation season LOL #star trek tng

[dabs-into-oblivion]

i don't know if i know anyone who would be into a dragon age/star trek crossover, but:

inquisitor spock.

that is all

#az talks #posts into oblivion #dragon age #star trek #s'chn t'gai spock #my preference is tos spock but i think any version of him would be genuinely interesting #imagining him showing up and people going “...is that an elf?” #meanwhile solas like. that is definitely not an elf idk what y'all are on #and spock like “what is an elf?” #if i wrote this i would need to do research on vulcan culture and beliefs to figure out the angle of the inevitable theological debates #spock makes a book club and it's him and cassandra and iron bull and a dalish elf

[aspiringnexu]

Saw a post a while ago that mentioned a debate among Star Wars fans and Star Trek fans about the typical who-would-win between a Borg Cube and the Death Star.

I'll leave them to that debate because who-would-win is highly dependent on the plot anyway and that kind of debate only leads to arguments (plus I find it incredibly boring, I'd much rather debate things like the similarities and disparities between human cultures in the two universes, one with and one without Earth, that would be interesting). But what did catch my eye was a mini-debate later on with people discussing whether or not said Cube would detect the Death Star approaching, the argument being that the modes of travel in the two different universes (namely warp and hyperspace) are so different that the Cube wouldn't be able to detect the Death Star until it reverted to real space.

Which reminded me how much I love that the two travel systems are so similar and yet so different.

I won't be able to get too technical, I'm sure some fans know the exact ins and outs of both kinds of space traversal, but the fundamental difference is how the ships attain FTL, or Faster Than Light. Because otherwise space travel takes FOREVER.

In Star Trek they use impulse engines to putter about for more precision maneuvering but use warp engines to achieve FTL, the warp engines 'warping' space by making a subspace bubble around the ship and therefore insulating it from the extreme pressures of breaking normal physics. As you do.

In Star Wars they use sublight engines for the usual puttering and maneuvering but instead they rely on the hyperdrive to achieve FTL which punts the ship into hyperspace, basically a parallel dimension where ships can achieve FTL without undue stress to the ship itself.

In both cases ships can be pulled out of their warp bubbles or their hyperspace streams due to factors in normal space. In Star Wars, for example, there exist Interdictor class ships which produce massive gravity wells, similar to those of moons or any other significant cosmic body which forces ships to drop out of hyperspace in order to avoid crashing into said body. (This also makes jumping into hyperspace too close to a planetary body incredibly risky. Not impossible, mind, but there is a reason planetary governments have a minimum distance allocated for incoming and outgoing ships.) Star Wars also makes a big deal out of Hyperspace Lanes (there was an entire war fought over them at one point) which are routes that have been confirmed to be empty of any cosmic phenomena discounting the occasional asteroid that wanders in. They're used as major shipping lanes and commercial passenger transports as a result. You can, of course, elect not to use the routes but you run the risk of encountering surprises even with a navicomputer.

In Star Trek the same rules seem to apply with various cosmic phenomena able to disrupt the warp drive and pull the ship out of warp, whether it be extreme gravimetric distortions that require precision piloting to avoid or nebula too thick for the engines to filter or, really, the list goes on. Could be anything from a nebula to the glowing green hand of a supposed Greek god stopping you from going to warp.

But regardless of the actual metrics of the two kinds of space travel, I find the idea that neither ship would be expecting the other to just appear incredibly amusing.

Neither universe would have any experience with a ship that travels in a space bubble or a ship that just casually drops in from another dimension and really why focus on inter-fandom discourse when you can focus on the incidental comedy?

#star wars #star trek #lore #star wars lore #star trek lore #space travel #there's also that wee detail that staring into the swirling blue of hyperspace has been proven to drive people insane #because its literally another dimension not meant to be seen by humanoid eyes #Darth Vader repeatedly spends ages on the bridge just staring into Hyperspace a lot #I can never decide if he's doing it to punish himself or just to prove to himself that he can without completely losing it #I mean it's Anakin “I'm so dramatic and tragic watch me” Skywalker so both could apply #can just imagine a Republic officer taking a Starfleet officer on a tour through a Venator and they reach the bridge #“Ah here we are. Please don't look outside.” #“What? Why?” #“Well you can but please keep it to brief glances. No more than five minutes at a time. Or you'll lose your mind in short order.” #Maybe the only kinds of people that can stand looking into Hyperspace are Jedi and Vulcans #They see it as a mental gym #A test of their mental mettle

[bumblingbabooshka]

[TUVOKTOBER: Day 16] Mr. Human!

#species swap voyager: Vulcan Janeway / Human Tuvok / Hologram Kes / Human Seven / Human Doctor #<- She's in the delta quadrant bc she took up her parents' work after they got assimilated and is chasing the Borg. #I think fully human or fully klingon B'Elanna would be potentially fun if they did a meet up (by which I mean it would be very angsty) #Chakotay Tom and Harry are still humans and Neelix is still Talaxian #Kes is a hologram so she can still be an age that's not entirely understandable to others. She's still an adult even though she's #technically one or two years old just like the doctor is in the canon timeline #Janeway's name in this universe is K'tryn #Also the running gag with the doctor's name is that no one knows what it is and it's only revealed at the last episode #and it IS something very boring. Important: He's not trying to hide it he just keeps getting interrupted or he's busy or a loud noise plays #st voyager #Tuvoktober #st voyager fanart #bea art tag #I was torn between making him look the same age he does on the show or making him look middle aged #since he is Vulcan middle aged but it was already difficult to make him look 'like Tuvok' instead of just some guy #Also his Human name is like 'Taylor' for that same gender neutral feel

[evilhorse]

He’s a fruitcake for sure

(All-Star Comics #61)

#all-star comics #justice society of america #jsa #green lantern #alan scott #Vulcan son of fire #christopher pike #fruitcake #ironic #earth two #gerry conway #keith giffen #wally wood #dc comics #comics #70s comics #bronze age comics

[dubiousculturalartifact]

so apparently star trek: snw is doing a 'Spock's Vulcan DNA is removed, leaving him fully human and a completely different person, shenanigans ensue' episode which, terrible concept for multiple reasons but also I think the absolute best (and most canonically plausible) outcome would be that Spock... pretty much just acts completely like he usually does. like, different eyebrows but fundamentally the same guy & at the end of the episode the ship's counsellor is like: oh, so he's autistic, huh

#star trek #star trek: snw #spock #but also can we not with bad biracial analogies in this day and age #he's not half of a whole human person and half of a whole vulcan person #he's a whole person in his own right! #and also hella autistic lbr

[enigma-and-oasis]

I really want to write some hot and filthy Fire Force smut between Ogun and Vulcan. This is one pair I will die on and I have so many smut ideas for these two😩🥵

Thinking about Vulcan rimming Ogun before riding his thick cock and using Ogun like a human dildo🔞🔞🔞🥵🥵🥵

#fire force #fire force smut #aged up characters #ogun montgomery #vulcan joseph #ogun x vulcan #enen no shouboutai smut #enen no shouboutai

[shortguyswag]

current thought for a video essay: The future is atheist (but we'll still celebrate christmas?)

#Idk #I'm just reading enders game and thinking about how even though religions kinda been abandoned by the sound of it #enders dad gave all of them saints names #his mom gave him a priesthood blessing #How the french daring to not teach english until age 4 is oh the prideful french #and alai saying salaam to ender was almost... Intimate is the wrong word #but sharing that piece of culture was like a huge thing #looked up the line in the book ender says he knew it was sacred #vs for example who watches the watchers in tng where they (iirc) imply that the proto vulcans growing out of ~superstitious religion~ #was a huge step forward in the advancement of their culture which sure vulcan cousin society ultra logical bla bla bla #but idk I feel like religion and logic aren't entirely at odds #and tbf I am saying this as a kinda religious person #but the abandonment of all religion in sci fi- especially when they maintain idk christmas as a cultural hallmark - kinda rubs me the wrong #Cause does that not seem really fucking dystopic to literally anyone else?

[grandpizzaeater]

Tried to draw Mirna when they are at different ages.

#Female oc #Oc #Child #Vulcan #Vulcan oc #Star trek #Different ages #Kid #Teenager #Aldult #Drawing #Fanart #Sarek #Amanda #Daughter #grandpizzaeater #Mirna