#also maybe adora and catra

[i-eat-cars-and-berriesss]

I absolutely love the couple dynamic where the golden-haired, beloved-by-all boy falls in love with his shy, unloved ravenette friend and they go against the world together as boyfriends in each other's comfort and confidence. Ahem, Patrochilles and Goldenheart.

#for bal and ambrosius it ended well #for achilles and pat it did not #i am still not over that #this could go for stede and blackbeard but not exactly #also maybe adora and catra #nimona 2023 #tsoa #the song of achilles #ballister x ambrosius #ambrosius is not golden-haired so blonde instead!!

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

fans: omg our innocent little meow meow! she's such a baby 🥺🥺 poor traumatized kitten protect her at all costs!! 😭😭

the character in question:

#girl how about you protect everyone else from HER #look i'm not against liking villains #a lot of my favourite characters are villains bc of how interesting they are #but maybe STOP trying to woobify a war criminal who has committed countless atrocities without remorse?? #not only are you making light of abuse and war #but you're also actually misrepresenting catra by reducing her to just one of her traits #same with anyone who reduces adora to just “dumb lesbian” #spop critisism #spop critical #spop #spop discourse #spop salt #anti catradora #spop criticism #she ra #anti catra

[secretmellowblog]

Random, but. It’s fascinating how “Valjean and Javert written by someone who thinks cops are Good” is so radically different from “Valjean and Javert written by someone who thinks cops are Bad.”

Like, for me the number one Thing that will determine whether I enjoy someone’s take on Valjean and Javert are whether they realize that the police/prison as an institution destroyed both of their lives, and is the villain of both of their stories XD.

But yeah it’s really fascinating! Both in adaptations and in fanfiction, the tone/interpretation with which the plot beats are handled can change so much about the characterization. All the adaptations/fic start off with the same basic plot beats but so much can be changed and colored (for better or worse) by the way the author chooses to interpret them

#i do want to say that I always think more people in the fandom is fun! #and fanfic is supposed to be whatever self indulgent stuff scratches your id and can’t be held to the same standards as published stuff #I will never tell people what to write! #also I’ve got cringe fanfic on ao3 too (let he who is without cringe cast the first stone etc etc) #so I’d be the WORST person to preach about that XD #(the next part in the tags is a joke don’t come at me) #but— as a lighthearted joke— sometimes to me personally the Les mis fandom feels like #imagine if you’re in the fandom for the new she ra show #and the show’s about the Evil Horde and how it destroys the lives of the two main characters in different ways #but then like? half the fandom insisted on referring to it as the Morally Okay Reformable Horde #and then like. all the catra/adora fanfic ended with Catra realizing she needs to be a Nicer horde soldier #and maybe adora rejoins the horde to and they go off to fight for Justice (which is what the horde does) #and then you were like ‘huh that’s a bit odd’ #‘I thought the point was that the horde poisoned both of their lives and ripped them away from their friends/family’ #‘like I thought the evil horde was evil and stuff’ #and people responded to you ‘why do you hate catra and catradora?’ #and you were like ‘no I love catra! but I thought the whole point was that yknow. she kinda had to leave the evil horde and all’ #‘like her upbringing in the horde had left her with a violent self-destructive authoritarian worldview and all’ #‘and her obsession with being a good horde soldier was not indeed a good admirable thing but sorta pathetic and sad’ #‘and adora was right to leave and hate the horde for what it did to her’ #‘and her flaw was that (like catra) she still internalized a lot of the way it taught her to view herself’ #‘and the whole fun of catradora is the idea of the two of them sorta finally figuring out who they are outside of that abusive system’ #anyway in this metaphor catra is javert adora is Valjean the horde is the police catradora Is valvert XD #this is a goofy metaphor made after hours of homework and is not to be taken too seriously

[nny11writes]

i dont know about catra putting up with ANY of that, however. i can see adora falling into exactly the same trap as the op because she didnt know what her star sign was, and feeling too awkward to explain it

Would she like it? No. Would she enjoy it? Also no.

But I think to keep her job Catra would lie to be a dick to them and as soon as she started getting extra work/praised at work/semi-promoted or fully promoted she would be like, "Yup, sure love the wisdom of those stars, never wrong about us [star sign]'s'." Catra would find it 100% insufferable, but if it's gonna get her some prestige and not be in her face 24/7 she'd eventually roll with it for her own benefit.

I think she'd get uncomfortable once it became about dating Casta's niece because they'd get along perfectly! Then she'd start feeling some pressure and all that simmering annoyance would become a hair trigger on the topic. Then she meets Glimmer and is willing to suck it up once again to talk with a pretty girl, and is beyond grateful that Glimmer also doesn't like it but humors her aunt (And also she maybe had a phase, don't judge her). Catra and Glimmer would get closer and fall in love starting by bonding over something petty and snarky like that, only to realize there is a spark. Catra has a two minute panic that maybe it's all real before realizing that sounds stupid as hell, but she's dating a really cool person now so she'll try to be less mean about it. Like, 5-10% less mean.

Meanwhile-

Adora I would see being immediately uncomfortable, not lying because fuck them but a sort of anxiety lie blurt where she just wants to move this all along please. But once it leaves her mouth she doesn't want to say she lied and doesn't know why so she's dedicated to the bit. Unlike Catra she'd be looking for help and a way out of it once she realizes she's getting semi-promotions/extra jobs/etc. because of this lie, and she'd do what the OP did and finally admit to it... only to have it get twisted around at that point so it's still a fate and star sign thing. Maybe Casta walks in a Adora tries to spin the situation to not make anyone feel bad but all she's done is jump from one lie to another. She would be viscerally uncomfortable when Casta starts trying to pair her and Glimmer up, pretty girl or not Adora feels so much guilt over the lie and situation.

She would also be very grateful that Glimmer doesn't like it but humors her aunt, but Adora would then rope her into finding a way out of her Throne of Lies (which is, like, two minor lies, but this is Adora and she is going to over think this so hard and Glimmer doesn't stop to think getting swept up in the story to undo the damage). I could see them getting closer and falling in love in the process of some ridiculous elaborate scheme that never needed to exist in the first place. At the end of the day Adora would just be fully honest and nothing bad would come out of it.

#it's always down to how you spin the situation and the characters in it I think #to me Adora fits but not in the same ''god this is so stupid you all are stupid and I'm going to lie to prove it'' way #Catra fits that bill better but the situation around it has to get more exploration #Maybe she's been unemployed for a while and needs this job #maybe she just THINKS she /needs/ this job #so she's playing nice by her standards but also planning to make an example of this idiocy #Adora would have a lot more post meeting Glimmer shenanigans trying to come up with The Perfect Plan to Undo The Damage From Lying #and her and Glimmer would work one another up into a whole new situation so the bulk of the tom fuckery gets placed there #the bulk of Catra's tom fuckery really is the ladder climbing before hand her #For a catra story I'd probably introduce Glimmer a lot earlier but not have Catra know she's Casta's niece so they'd still have screen time

[raventrigonsdaughter]

Someone gotta warn spop fans that dont know to not compare Despara to Spop's version of Adora cause 😬

I just saw one saying "oh catradora and spop but bad ending in motu" and just... no, why are u guys setting yourselves up like that

#she-ra #i need y'all to understand that Despara would rip spop's adora head off with her teeth #and she does not turn into a nice himbo like her spop version either when she goes to her brother's side #also a heads up to catra stans with how kevin is taking from the comics y'all may wanna sit this out too #shadow weaver is more likeable than her in that #ok shadow weaver is also an actual decent person who was brainwashed and is hordak's actual slave in it too but still #tip? if u want to ship adora with a morally grey character with a good redemption arc they just redeemed evil-lyn and it was actually good #so maybe go there #i know i will #adora #despara #spop critical? not really but its a heads up with the migration that will def happen once the next season comes out

[domsaysstuff]

Thinking of the doom romance of loving the hero. Like there's just this pain of sacrifice. You always want to die, you want to die a good death, lie your head on the heart of the world, hear it say you've done good and let it kill you. You love so wholly, so beautifully, so selflessly, you love the people you love the land, you love and you'll let love kill you. It's for the greater good is like a prayer for you. You want your death to mean something and you'll let your life mean nothing for it. You love the people, you love the land and you want to be good and I love you. I love you wholly enough to deny you the only thing you want. I will watch you fall upon the sword of this world again and again and again. I will love you and I will become selfish for it. You belong to this world and I'll never get more then what I've stolen of you. You are going to die and I'm going to watch you do it. You love me and it doesn't matter because you belong to the world and you want to die so it can live and I love you and I'm selfish so I'll deny you death, again and again and again. There is no version of this story in which you think your love for me is more important than the sacrifices you need to make and there is no version of this story in which I don't wish you would let the world burn. You want to do good and you want to die for it and I love you and I'll watch you do it. You love the people, you love the land and you'll die saving it. I love you so I'll let it kill us both.

#idk what this is #but also i already have an idea how to turn it into a steddie fanfic idea lmao #also this is brought to you by me watching warrior nun beatrice and ava my beloved it also made me think of catra and adora which like what #the fuck is going on with the sapphics #dom's tumblr writing #i guess? #anyway i'm just leaving it here for somebody to maybe stumble upon

[onceandfuturequeenmerlin]

au’s where nimueh is merlin’s abusive mother and she’s either his mother by birth or she kidnapped him mother gothel style and raised him to get revenge on uther pendragon by killing his son but he’s a terrible assassin just like in canon because he falls in love with arthur are *chefs kiss*

#bbc merlin #nimueh #merlin #merthur #he eventually becomes a threat to her and she either wants him to join her or die #she's kinda like queen mab being merlin's mother in the 1998 tv show #or mrs coulter being lyra's mother in his dark materials #or shadow weaver being catra and adora's mother in she ra #or odalia being amity's mother in toh #what if she gave birth to him wonder woman style #by sculpting him out of clay and praying to the gods to give him life #then him being the gods weapon would be even more canon than it already is #or maybe she slept with one of the gods percy jackson style #since she is a high priestess #also her kidnapping him like mother gothel would make sense since she still looks young compared to uther and gaius #using merlin like rapunzel to keep her looking young and beautiful #tangled au

[entropy-sea-system]

I think g3 movie 2 made Toralei my fave maybe because it shows her mental health issues a bit and also g3 show started showing how her behaviour was linked to issues as well and I relate to that a lot as someone w personality disorders

#also idk but maybe the actress salena qureshi being part desi in the live action was like !! #bc even if shes a villain sort of (Im wary of media like Venom making the desi character the villain) #and Im south asian so #I hardly see characters in western media be south asian !!!! #and dont fucking point me to the shows made by mindy kaling just bc desi bc I said that #shes literally sexually harassed costars and actors working under her and #never took accountability for it and laughed it off in interviews #(she made that velma show too) #anyways. idk #derailed my post a bit in the tags I guess but yeah #its also funny that w Catra a similar character it was fucking painful to watch what happened onscreen #lets be honest canon fucked her over so bad #especially in early seasons. only her ending is peaceful #I dont even ship catradora I dont exactly ship catra or adora w anyone tbh #maybe w therapy lol #but this time its like. thats my cluster b headcanon blorbo hello #before you ask just bc I relate to toralei Im not a bully or someone who fearmongers about minorities. #I just relate to doing shit for attempting to get attention from peers and being guarded bc of trauma #and some of the ways I acted around ppl when I was younger and less able to control my emotions or attempt to understand my disorders

[monsterkiss]

Cringetober, Day 11 - Yandere

Catra again, I just feel like drawing her!! And I'll (probably) do again it for one more prompt!

Anyway! I think Catra could fit the yandere trope at least to some degree, particularly in the right circumstances and all that. So… yeah. I definitely like this version of her. 👀💕

#cringetober #cringetober 2023 #selfship #self ship #selfshipping #self shipping #self insert #my self insert #my art #mine #f/o: catra #yandere tw #tw yandere #i also kinda wanted to draw a bonus version with like #maybe catra and adora or catra and some other canon character #but i just don't have the energy for that :/

[tearsofsaudade]

and what if i said mike is the catra to will’s adora, huh? what then?

#-> will (adora) has accepted who he is (gay/not evil) and is trying to be the best version of himself #whereas mike (catra) is terrified of change and not being who he was always told he needed to be #mike (catra) is so afraid of losing will (adora) that he's being cruel and pushing him away #and just like in she-ra our season 5 is gonna be the season of im sorrys and 'i love you i always have' #lumax = glimbow ofc bi4bi beautiful murderous queen with her ray of sunshine bf #dont make me write a she-ra au #i dont know shit about the creelarke henry/edward stuff but that would also fit with hordak/horde prime iykyk #spinnerella and netossa are rovickie ofc #i put max as glimmer for glimbow #but maybe el would fit better #and then hopper is the queen lmao #except that it would make more sense for el to have also left the horde #hmmm #i havent watched she ra in a hot minute so even remembering names takes me a bit lmao

[haemosexuality]

i have finally made a kin list

OH ALSO susie from deltarune too

#not to self diagnose but all of these characters have one thing in common and its that theyre so autistic #except maybe amethyst. idk tbh i never stopped to think ab it #glimmer USED to be here but only when i was younger #also theres prob way more that im forgetting these r just the ones from the top of my head #anyways. heres why i relate to them eleven- socially awkward as fuck ans feels alienated from other ppl #kris-weird ass kid. shitposter. gamer. emo. loves caos. probably bites ppl. weird. weirdo. in every single way theyre just literally me bro #catra- shes been my favorite character and i was so obsessed with her for so long that i projected on her so much she became me on my head #also. anger issues a bit/in love with her best friend who didnt like her the same way and she got angsty ab it (adora did love her but #catra didnt know)/was a bad friend bc of all her shit and had to learn to be a better one and apologize/lesbian/mentally ill #scorpia- was so obsessed with someone that she let that take over her life and destroy her self esteem/said someone was going through a lot #and ended up hurting her bc of their erratic and self destructive behavior/she then stopped talking to said friend bc of the toll being #there for them was taking on her mental health/also socially awkward af+bad at conversations and at boundaries #luz- weird and cringe tho luz is in a more extroverted way while im a MAJOR introvert #oh yeah kris is also quiet and doesnt talk to ppl. thats me #yuri- HYPERFIXATIONS and being socially awkward. not knowing how to talk to ppl at All #amethyst- oh boy. ill just say this: ''Admit it! I'm just an EMBARRASSMENT for you!'' ''you want to pretent like none of this eeeever #happened! you think im just a big mistake!!'' ''I NEVER ASKED FOR IT TO BE THIS WAY... I NEVER ASKED TO BE MADE'' #''go away. im bad and you shouldnt be around me.'' i could be here all day #entrapta- remember when she said ''i just wasnt suited for friendship''. problems with making and maintaining friendships/ppl thinking shes #weird and talkng ab her+treating her like that even tho shes their ''friend''/being generally kind of weird and Different #(shes autistic. thats it thats what i relate to i am the same way bestie) #susie: uuuh ppl all saw her as angry and she kept being bad at things so she just started being angry all the time and stopped trying. same #yk that post that is like susie felt like she was bad all her life so she just embraced it? yeah. also bad at school and she/him lesbian

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

i just love how c//a stans read way too much into every single scene because there's too little actual proof of catra caring about adora.

(the pic is blurry but the first screencap has catra saying “they're going to catch us, and if they do—”)

oh, catra. you're good enough at hurting adora without horde prime's help.

but from what we've seen of catra's behaviour in s5, i'm pretty sure that adora's safety was the last thing on her mind. girlie was making everything about herself the entire time, i think she just didn't want to relive the trauma of being chipped. (which is valid but don't try to turn it into a romantic thing. she was NOT concerned for adora.)

#also don't forget how catra did the same thing to adora #you would expect her to remember how she also tried to mind control adora #and maybe apologize to adora for it? #but no #no one remembers that certainly not catra #really goes to show how she doesn't even consider adora as a person #spop critical #spop #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #she ra #anti catradora #anti catra #anti c//a #anticatra #anti spop #antic//a #anticatradora #spop fandumb

[lemonlimetoast]

I just cried while writing a discussion post about the Illiad 🧍😎✌️ in my defense, the discussion post is literally titled "WHAT MAKES LIFE MEANINGFUL"

#maybe im dramatic but i was like ok so... the power of love and making my friends and myself happy.......... is the meaning of life #ma'am i have depression ive thought about this extensively #anyways heres a paragraph tangent about how adora and catra and achilles and Patroclus are narrative parallels #in s5 ep 3 save the cat- #midnighttalk #not joking i am crying tho #the illiad is rlly sad tho in my defense #like damn..... andromache and hector got me #like.... theres no winners in war...... aough ough ouch #i wrote aough in my quote asisngment btw #bc aough.... #my fun trait about me is i thoroughly enjoy classics like Shakespeare and the illiad #first time reading the illiad #i sort of read the odyssey and maybe the aenied before tho #but also aough ouch ooo the human condition ouch oof #anyways shout out to Ricc who said in his post that love and friendship doesnt exist ✌️ fuck you i hate you im biting you x100 #not solely for that he just has shit takes and zero respect

[wheredidthe80sgo]

i always say my favourite trope is enemies to lovers, but i think actually it’s ‘we were on the same team and there were romantic vibes there but neither of us ever did anything until one of us couldn’t do it anymore and left to join someone else but we both miss each other a lot until something brings us back together and we have to rediscover each other while learning to work together again and there’s angst from things we left unsaid but i’d still do anything for you’

#it's so good y'all #for example: i was thinking of catra and adora while writing this #but maybe also the west wing

[death-rebirth-senshi]

The real most important reason I didn't finish She-ra was that like 2 or 3 episodes into the last season I absolutely positively could not take the humor and dialogue any longer and swore off children's shows from that moment on

#Adora: doing that thing Adora does where she talks funny; this time because Catra saved Glimmer #Me: Okay I'm done with this. Goodbye. #seahawke and mermista tested me the whole duration if I'm being honest. #always felt like the other princesses didn't get enough play in general #the horse. Was annoying. #okay I also rolled my eyes at Adora flip-flopping on Catra so fast but it was mostly the dialogue #plus knowing more or less how things would end #maybe I should've stuck it out...but I didn't feel like it

[nny11writes]

Sometimes drawing is part of the writing process. :)

#spop #she ra #adora #hunt showdown au #Adora took Catra’s death really well guys I promise #I loved making a little heart shaped hole over her heart #don’t worry about it #Catra has that now so we’re good #anyhow she just wants to open a stable portal to help for no reason #me to myself: make her beefier #why did I choose a harder pose when I draw maybe five times a year? #the first two Adora drawings are at home with the Catra drawing #probably need to put more scrap on her cuz scrapbeak #but also #I refuse :) #just picture it okay?