a really sad question but i really want to be respectful of the wonderful sarah jane smith in my fanfiction series, so what earth year in the whoniverse is the year sarah jane actually dies? i know they didn't have sarah jane pass away the year elisabeth sladen did but sarah jane is revealed to have died in the memorial special they did for her with the bannerman road gang in 2020 & there's no answer on the wiki to a specific year.
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LOVE the way Maria just causally walks into Sarah Jane's living room and goes "They're not Luke's parents, they're Slitheen."
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The next in my Doctor Who character sets. Stepping into another spin-off series, it's the Bannerman Road gang, from The Sarah Jane Smith Adventures!
Featuring Sarah Jane Smith, Maria, Sky, Rani, Clyde, and Luke.
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Round 3, Match 21: Optimus Prime vs. Sarah Jane Smith
Submitted kids:
Optimus Prime: Bumblebee, then depending on continuity, Cliffjumper, Smokescreen, Arcee, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, the Aerialbots, Sari Sumdac, Jack Darby, Miko Nakadai, Raf Esquivel, and possibly others (Mod forgot Spike Witwicky 🤦🏽♀️)
Sarah Jane Smith: Luke, Sky, (Lauren), (Maria Jackson, Rani Chandra, Clyde Langer)
Propaganda under the cut!
Optimus Prime:
1. “#VOTE OPTIMUS HE'S THE DAD OF ALL TIME AND HAS ISSUES”
2. “Optimus is not only a dad, he is a dad in the middle of a war!!
A war that killed his world and that is now targeting other worlds
He has all that weight on him and that doesn't stop him from being a caring dad to his men”
Sarah Jane Smith:
“I haven't even watched SJA but it is fandomwide known that Sarah Jane is the Doctor Who character who goes around adopting kids. Like, the first two I mentioned, Luke and Sky, are her actual adopted kids, then apparently she had a biologically related child Lauren? And the last three are kids that complete the Bannerman Road gang, a group defending the Earth that consists of exactly one adult: Sarah Jane. So, yeah, those are also her kids if we're being real. And judging by the way I have seen her interact with Luke, mostly, Sarah Jane is an awesome mum. Caring and protective but trusting her kid with important tasks and working effortlessly I tandem. Also, she is a badass journalist with a robot dog, just so you know”
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Sarah Jane Smith vs. Leia Organa
Remember: don't vote on "who would win in a fight", but on "who, when given a task that fits her skillset and talents, would do that task better: more comprehensively, faster, with more pizzazz, with less collateral, etc."
Endorsements! "What is she good at?"
Sarah Jane Smith, Doctor Who: Investigative Journalism! It's how she solves mysteries with the Doctor and the Bannerman Road Gang.
Leia Organa, Star Wars: everything. y'all know her. but to be clear in her very first scene she lies directly to vader's face without blinking. then iconically takes charge of her own rescue missions bc luke and han are useless. then she outlives that main trio, is a force user, senator, general, and everyone loves her.
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At the end of the day, there is a reason 10's face came back, and that is literally just to say goodbye to NuWho. The 15th Doctor is a complete reboot, RTD has said it himself. But coming from a character standpoint, there was reasoning for it. 14 still had all of 10's qualities. Now, he wasn't as cold as 10, he was more open and not afraid to be affectionate, but even then he still carried the same amount of shame on his shoulders and tortured himself with his trauma. To be honest, 14 seemed tired.
Bumbling about the internet, I have seen people bring up the Metacrisis Doctor when it comes to this finale, but the difference between this bi-generation and the metacrisis was the fact that the metacrisis was a two way thing. Donna became a Time Lord and the version of him that came from both Donna and 10's hand is completely human with quite a bit of her personality in him, and the bi-generation is literally just two of the exact same Time Lords. And that's it.
And to be honest, in some ways 10 wanted to have his cake and eat it. A part of him wanted to settle down and also be a Time Lord, because let's face it, he'd never be able to say goodbye to that life he's lived for all those many years, he even said that when Donna and 15 told him to let go and he was scared. And more proof of that was in series 2's School Reunion episode (which is one of my all time favourites) when Rose confronted him on why he never mentioned Sarah Jane, and then later on in the series finale of 4 where he and DoctorDonna leave the Metacrisis Doctor behind with Rose. He loved Rose, always had, but he knew it would break his heart to see her grow old and die, so really the Metacrisis Doctor got to have his happy end because he was human.
I think 15 was the part of the Doctor that still had the urge to keep going and wanted to be finally free from the pain of the past. Every Doctor has their own personalities and ways of coping with things, and I think 15 just wants to be carefree and happy and that's just what I get from the trailer for Christmas special where he is literally in a club dancing so freely... something we've never seen from the Doctor before.
I won't lie though, I don't understand the issue with it being Donna he gets to have that happy end with. He couldn't have it with Martha, she has Mickey and her family, Sarah Jane has been dead for a long time, he never got to truly know the Bannerman Road Gang, and Jack is out there doing things with Torchwood, so he couldn't have gone with any of them either, and the rest of the companions in NuWho are pretty much dead. So, why not Donna?
It's said by quite a few characters during the 10th Doctor era that he never stays, and he'll even admit multiple times he'll keep on running. And after losing Rose, we all saw how he just ran faster and grew darker. Martha gave him a phone so she could keep in contact with him, and what did he do? He denied the fact that he even had a phone when it rang and Donna asked questions about it. And let's face it, if the universe hadn't pulled him and Donna together for them to meet again, he would never have seen her again after the Racnoss. She offered him Christmas dinner with her and her family and he just didn't.
Overall, every companion of 10's all have their happy ends except for her. Yes, Donna has a family and she loves them dearly, but for those 15 years she felt that something was missing. So, she didn't really get a happy end because she had no closure and it plagued her and her family. But now here she is and 14 here is, happy because they both have closure. So, I don't know... It just seems rather fitting to me.
At the end of the day, this whole thing was just finally letting this face of the Doctor, this version of himself who's most damaged and tired, just be happy.
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I was thinking. Torchwood and SJA take place in the same universe right??? So.... When Children of the Earth occurs.... What happens? Bannerman road gang fight back? Start protecting other kids on the street? Sarah Jane tries countless numbers of times to call the doctor to help or to beam herself on board? Mr Smith tries to disrupt the government attempts at snatching kids by hacking their computers to keep the children safe???
I wanna know more about how the large scale events in these shows knit together. Because we all know the Bannerman Road Gang would try to fight back in every way they could
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