#bill moyers

[dreaminginthedeepsouth]

“MOYERS: So the one great story is our search to find our place in the drama?

CAMPBELL: To be in accord with the grand symphony that this world is, to put the harmony of our own body in accord with that harmony.”

― Joseph Campbell, The Power of Myth

#The Power of Myth #empathy #quotes #Bill Moyers #Joseph Campbell

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

Moyers: Do you give people who make this case, that that was the beginning and that there had to be something that provoked the beginning, do you give them an A at least for trying to reconcile faith and reason?

Tyson: I don’t think they’re reconcilable.

Moyers: What do you mean?

Tyson: Well, so let me say that differently. All efforts that have been invested by brilliant people of the past have failed at that exercise. They just fail. And so I don’t, the track record is so poor that going forward, I have essentially zero confidence, near zero confidence, that there will be fruitful things to emerge from the effort to reconcile them.

So, for example, if you knew nothing about science, and you read, say, the Bible, the Old Testament, which in Genesis, is an account of nature, that’s what that is, and I said to you, give me your description of the natural world based only on this, you would say the world was created in six days, and that stars are just little points of light much lesser than the sun. And that in fact, they can fall out of the sky, right, because that’s what happens during the Revelation.

You know, one of the signs that the second coming, is that the stars will fall out of the sky and land on Earth. To even write that means you don’t know what those things are. You have no concept of what the actual universe is. So everybody who tried to make proclamations about the physical universe based on Bible passages got the wrong answer.

So what happened was, when science discovers things, and you want to stay religious, or you want to continue to believe that the Bible is unerring, what you would do is you would say, “Well, let me go back to the Bible and reinterpret it.” Then you’d say things like, “Oh, well they didn’t really mean that literally. They meant that figuratively.”

So, this whole sort of reinterpretation of the, how figurative the poetic passages of the Bible are came after science showed that this is not how things unfolded. And so the educated religious people are perfectly fine with that. It’s the fundamentalists who want to say that the Bible is the literally, literal truth of God, that and want to see the Bible as a science textbook, who are knocking on the science doors of the schools, trying to put that content in the science room. Enlightened religious people are not behaving that way. So saying that science is cool, we’re good with that, and use the Bible for, to get your spiritual enlightenment and your emotional fulfillment.

Moyers: Do you have any sympathy for people who seem to only feel safe in the vastness of the universe you describe in your show if they can infer a personal God who makes it more hospitable to them, who cares for them?

Tyson: In this, what we tell ourselves is a free country, which means you should have freedom of thought, I don't care what you think. I just don't. Go think whatever you want. Go ahead. Think that there is one God, two gods, ten gods, or no gods. That is what it means to live in a free country. The problem arises is if you have a religious philosophy that is not based in objective realities, that you then want to put into the science classroom. Then I am going to stand there and say no I am not going to allow you in the science classroom. I am not telling you what to think. I am just telling you in the science classroom you are not doing science. This is not science. Keep it out. That is when I stand up. Otherwise, go ahead. I am not telling you how to think.

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Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Proverbs 14:12

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

2 Corinthians 10:5

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ

Even the bible says that faith and reason are irreconcilable.

Faith rebukes reason.

#Neil DeGrasse Tyson #Bill Moyers #christianity #bible #science #science vs religion #religion vs science #religion #religion is a mental illness

[remembertheplunge]

Flight 93

April 29, 2006 12 noonish

Waiting in the Brendan Theater to watch the movie Flight 93 which was just released in theaters. Maybe 8 of us here.

Just before the movie began, a song plays “My old friend, we’ll meet again"

So, why am I here?

CNN: Judy Woodruff “4th plane crashes” (On 9/11/2001, four planes crashed: two in New York City, one in Washington DC and the fourth, Flight 93 in Pennsylvania.

Disaster film (I love 1970’s disaster films like Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno and Earthquake)

Flight fascination

Mark Bingham, a gay man, died on  flight 93. He was a hero on board.

We lived through that horrible morning of September 11, 2001. The Skys went silent overhead as all plane travel was suspended. We thought that the attacks were headed our way, to the West Coast. The West bound flights headed for the San Fransisco Bay are flew over Modesto where we lived at about elevation 10,000feet I think.  Flight 93 probably would have followed that course  had it not crashed.

2:27pm (after leaving the theater having watched the film, I made the following journal entries:

United 93 film: fairly stunning

2:55pm

At the end of the movie one of the theater audience members cryed.

7:14pm

Flight 93 still haunts 5 hours later.

They would have landed here about 11:30am.

They crashed 4 I/2 hours before: 7:03am Pacific Standard Time

It was not a crowded flight

“But when you think about what people are actually under going in our civilization, you realize it’s a very grim thing to be a modern human being.”

Joe Campbell to Bill Moyers on PBS From the book Sacred Selfish p.333.

End of this part of the entry

Note:

 Joseph Campbell was an author and a expert in the area of mythology and comparative religion.

Bill Moyers has been involved with Public Broadcasting and has produced documentaries including one in which he interviewed  Joseph Campbell.

#4/29/2006 #Flight 93 #9/11/2001 #Mark Bingham #Gay hero on Flight 93 #Joseph Campbell #Bill Moyers #it's very grim to be a modern human being

[agatalisartist]

Agata Lis, Still Life with marbles, 73 x 92,5 cm, oil on canvas, 2023

#literature #bill moyers #agata lis #contemporaryart #contemporarypainting #painting

[stephen-narain]

#Derek Walcott #Bill Moyers #Interview

[artsformyvoid]

MOYERS: Why myths? Why should we care about myths? What do they have to do with my life?

CAMPBELL: My first response would be, “Go on, live your life, it’s a good life—you don’t need mythology.” I don’t believe in being interested in a subject just because it’s said to be important. I believe in being caught by it somehow or other. But you may find that, with a proper introduction, mythology will catch you. And so, what can it do for you if it does catch you? One of our problems today is that we are not well acquainted with the literature of the spirit. We’re interested in the news of the day and the problems of the hour. It used to be that the university campus was a kind of hermetically sealed-off area where the news of the day did not impinge upon your attention to the inner life and to the magnificent human heritage we have in our great tradition—Plato, Confucius, the Buddha, Goethe, and others who speak of the eternal values that have to do with the centering of our lives.

#mythologies #myths #the power of myth #joseph campbell #bill moyers #culture

[raleigh-in-the-garden]

Slay the dragon within— your EGO …..

#joseph campbell #bill moyers

[dreaminginthedeepsouth]

[Watkins Glen NY  :: from my flickr files :: my Grandfather’s photo]

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[Bill Moyers excerpted from “Battlefield Earth”] “On the heath Lear asks Gloucester: "How do you see the world?” And Gloucester, who is blind, answers: “I see it feelingly.’” I see it feelingly. The news is not good these days. I can tell you, though, that as a journalist I know the news is never the end of the story. The news can be the truth that sets us free – not only to feel but to fight for the future we want. And the will to fight is the antidote to despair, the cure for cynicism, and the answer to those faces looking back at me from those photographs on my desk. What we need to match the science of human health is what the ancient Israelites called “hochma” – the science of the heart … the capacity to see … to feel … and then to act … as if the future depended on you. Believe me, it does. Bill Moyers Hochma - I See It Feelingly | Alive On All Channels ALLCHANNELS.BLOGSPOT.COM

#hochma #Bill Moyers #Watkins Glen NY #Battlefield Earth #Alive On All Channels #quotes #my favorites

[bennettmarko]

Preachers err, he told me, by trying "to talk people into belief; better they reveal the radiance of their own discovery."

- Bill Moyers, The Power of Myth with Joseph Campbell (1988)

#bill moyers #joseph campbell #quotes #mythology

[thenewdemocratus]

Salon: Bill Moyers: When America Behaved Like ISIS

Salon Whenever there’s something horrible going on in the world that America officially comes out against and one way or another works to try to end that and punish the people who are responsible for it, the Far-Left in America however you want to label their politics in America just as long as you don’t label them as Liberals like to say, “hey, what about these horrible things that America did…

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#America #Bill Maher #Bill Moyers #Far Left #Iraq #ISIL #ISIS #Islamic Terrorism #Islamic Terrorists #New Left #Public Correctness #Real Time With Bill Maher #Syria

[mossadegh]

Watch the video "The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis", a 1987 TV program hosted by Bill Moyers examining the Iran-Contra affair and the history of abuse of secret power, including the 1953 coup in Iran, the Guatemalan coup, Chile, the Vietnam war...

The Mossadegh Project

#imperialism #central intelligence agency #bill moyers #us foreign policy #asia #middle east #iran #guatemala #chile #nicaragua #vietnam #vietnam war #iran contra #reagan #president reagan #foreign policy #us imperialism #cia #tehran #iranian #mossadegh #foreign interference #foreign intervention #1980's #reagan administration #oliver north #deep state #constitution #USA #united states

[mirth-of-mind-and-lit]

“Creativity is piercing the mundane to find the marvelous.” – Bill Moyers

#quotes #bill moyers #creativity #inspiration #upliftment

[stephen-narain]

#Toni Morrison #Bill Moyers #Youtube

[artsformyvoid]

The thing that pulled me off of the ledge, were Joseph Campbell's words mooring me like a tether. With his research of comparative mythologies, it saves my ass but made me realize the foolish ideas I held onto from my younger man years. As a middle age man, I must wear a different garment so to speak.

Myths give us a deeper understanding of ourselves, in our time and age of life, and the passages we must take in each of those stages.

Something I was sorely missing since the death of my father. I will not mourn him anymore. I celebrate his passing. And hopefully one day I'll celebrate mine.

#the power of myth #joseph campbell #bill moyers #myths